This is so informative! If I may use myself as a case in point: 68 year old woman, 5'6", 125 pounds, walk four miles daily. I was a vegetarian who focused on whole foods for a long time, thinking that was the best diet, so imagine my surprise when I had my A1C tested and it was 6.1. I immediately got a CGM and started tracking my responses to food. I can tell you, I dropped the carbohydrates (less than 100 grams per day now) in my diet like hot potatoes. I am now eating more meat and eggs, and will have my A1C tested again in a few months. Interestingly, though I was not trying to lose weight, I dropped four pounds within two weeks of lowering my carb intake.
I wore a CGM with my wife - she could eat the same bowl of oatmeal as I did but I would get a huge spike she would not. It seems I can't eat any carb naked safely even though I am not pre-diabetic.
A horrible example is hospital food. My husband has had major surgery and relatively long hospital stays. We are very low carb, ketovore for the last 4 years. I spent a great deal of time and energy preparing high protein , quality food to take to the hospital. I’d do it again! In spite of the surgeries he recovered remarkably well for 72. He now takes care of our acre and animals plus helping others often. The heart healthy diet in the hospital is beyond belief!!! Pancakes for breakfast with fruit, no real butter to be found only margarine in the whole hospital, bread or rolls with every meal plus desert😮😮. It could kill you!!!
I was a nurse for years and was sickened by some of the food. The other half of this equation, is that sick'ish people pick at their food and barely eat what's there, so lots of waste all around. If they were fed something as "un-fun" as meats and avocado, olives, ie low sugar/starch foods, they would eat even less. Hospitals are one thing - short term, but by the time people wind up in assisted living or a nursing home, they probably weren't eating any better before they got there. One vid I watched ran assisted living homes and fed them keto, with improvement in their cognition and more spontaneous movement and exercise.
@ you are right but I would love real bone broth, quality meat, good butter, and eggs offered first. No low fat anything. Real cream for coffee. I’ve canned my own chicken and beef bone broth and family is under instruction, in the event I’m hospitalized, to bring me good food. I’ve made it easy for them. I care not a wit what any of the dietitians say even if they are kind
@@pennyheisler7500 agree - but boy oh boy, just try to change any institution. Lots of nut running the system and they have more energy than the logical people, to reist and argue.
Nina should get a lot more honors and recognition , especially by the media.... when you're NOT driven by sincere motives, you DON'T use common sense - such is the present state of the world's food governance
I don't intend to be cynical here, but what are the odds that this upcoming administration is going to mobilize against the corn and wheat subsidies? Do you guys genuinely believe that this is something that people at the policy level are going to be able to take back to their voters? I suppose I'm having difficulty imagining this collection of billionaires to do anything that works against other billionaires. Hoping there's promise I'm failing to see, but boy-howdy it doesn't seem at all likely.
Trump and RFK jr are working for the American people not billionaires, you already saw that Trump was trying to change things for the better for the average person in his first term…give him a chance.
Nina, you look, terrific! It must be your diet😂! I’m nearly 80 years old and I’ve been a carnivore for over six years. Thanks to you and Gary and so many others. Keep up the good work.☸️🙏❤️
How can we as citizens help with this initiative? Would letters of concern directed to our political representatives help? We need a grass roots effort! I voted for Dr. Chaffee ( Carnivore ) but also hope this woman is seated! She is an amazing level headed. communicator.
One big thing you can do is drop a comment on the initial report released for the 2025 guidelines: www.regulations.gov/document/HHS-OASH-2024-0017-0001
Here’s a thing. My OMAD diet. Steak eggs and tallow ( all organic) cost the same as 1 Macdonald meal. And people would eat another meal in that day. So this would be a winning argument for us.
I just don't see how an administration that is planning to roll back regulation on business is also going to actively work against those corporate interests by promoting food policy that could potentially have a dramatic effect on the bottom line on those powerful industries (big food, insurance, medical and pharma). I think MAHA was just lip service to get elected. The mavericks will be reined in and business will chug along more profitably than ever. I would love to feel more optimistic, but I just don't see it happening.
@@Raenell-w9vIt's a nice thought but I don't see people, in large enough groups, stopping the consumption of hyper-palatable foods with little to no nutritional value in order to get these companies to stop producing these foods.
@@shiplesp From what I understand using my own body as a test subject, I can’t have a really healthy diet without being fat adapted. Becoming fat adapted takes knowledge (learning about nutrition) , discipline to stick with a solid zero carb diet and willingness to exercise and stick with the program. I would say 20% of Americans will go zero or low carb in their lifetime.
The picture on the airplane where everyone is eating McDonalds is worth 1000 words. Now if they were eating the beef patties exclusively that picture would tell a different story.
It's crazy. The military has a problem with obesity, and year by year, less people are able to meet the minimum physical standards required to join up. Whilst I hope the new administration cleans everything up, I realize the immense financial pressure working against any departure from the status quo, which favours the unholy trinity of the processed food industry, big pharma and the medical industrial complex. I just hope more people do their own research and discover the benefits of an ancestral diet.
You should see what they feed cancer patients-you'd be horrified. And this is fed to them in a clinical setting. 40 years of an experiment that has gone and is going wrong, and they still persist in not changing it-totally nuts. If you eat STUFF made by people in white coats, then expect to be treated by people in white coats, or worse still, those in blue theatre scrubs. If you are really unfortunate - you'll be handled with great care by those that wear black and drive a hearse.
Sounds like the less-than-sane nutrition computer modelling mentioned at around 26 minutes, is on a par with the Imperial College epidemic computer modelling which has been shown to be so wildly inaccurate that the modellers should have been fired, but they're still there, still doing their modelling...
Let me get this straight- the USDA's "scientific committee" in charge of interpreting nutritional science is actually INCOMPETENT AT INTERPRETING NUTRITIONAL SCIENCE/RESEARCH?!?!?! Where is John Ioannidis when we need him?
Regarding your comments (21:00) re plant-based foods as part of a nutritious diet (maybe combined with animal foods...as many omnivorous people do!) Are you referring to the studies done by Prof Christopher D Gardner of Stanford? He's often a guest on the ZOE nutrtion podcast, which always seems too plant-focused in my humble opinion. Wouldn't it be wonderful if they invited yourselves on to their channel for a chat? I hope it happens! They could do with some improved "balance" in their plant-centric nutritional health output!
Isn’t the problem the fact that baseline human health as accepted and used in these studies is a health of a junk food nation? Baseline human health needs to be based on breastfeeding to two years followed by only unprocessed foods with high quality protein like meat. Baseline Human health is far better than we expect and know
New admin is not a fan of any science. What makes you think that they will be any different around nutrition? It's going to be even more heavily biased towards corporations than it already is. To think otherwise is naive. You know how much low/no carb/carnivore has helped you (if you're following those). Keep at it and stay healthy. 😊
A big issue is that fun foods are, well just more fun. It's like trying to push prohibition on a nation of alcholics. The food industry has created these awful concoctions that are colorful, fun and hip, hip horray! The sweet, seed oil, salty goodies made by food companies have hijacked the brain of billions around the world. We all pretend that they are for special occasions but adults and children alike are getting way too much of all of this, and "way too much" is any more than once a month I think, if ever. There are no special occasions. Everyday is ok for pastry, ice cream, (even sugared yogurt), breakfast cereal with honey bunches of oats, Doritos, on and on.
How about Dr Caldwell Esselstyn, cardiologist (Cleveland Clinic), who has claimed that by putting his patients on a plant based diet with almost zero oil/fat added, has been able to open blocked arteries and reduce soft plaque in a majority of his patients. He himself and wife have followed such a diet since 1980 and at the advanced age of 91 and 87 they are healthy, energetic, physically agile and mentally alert?
He makes me laugh when he says the only way to get b12 is from eating dirt and because humans are so hygienic and wash their plants and hands we wash away the bacteria in the soil that makes B12 and that’s why vegans need to supplement. I can’t imagine people used to eat unwashed plants with globs of dirt?
It’s a pity that thousands of Hindus in India will suffer poor health and possibly die before the rest of the world cottons on to how twisted these latest USDA food guidelines are. 😢😢😢
A senate committee held a meeting with a number of doctors that practice functional medicine and have knowledge of the human metabolic systems . It was placed on youtube by CNN and it is important to put in our two cents worth...even tho the power structure in congress is shifting! In themeantime, educare one by one the people in our sphere of influence!!!
Thank you for your comment. And this is a crucial point to make. Those two comments aren't mutually exclusive. it is a biological fact that plant proteins (except for soy) are less bioavailable and less complete than animal proteins. But that doesn't mean that someone can't get adequate protein for optimal muscle development and metabolic health from plant proteins. They absolutely can. They simply have to eat more than they would from animal protein and they have to mix and match to get a complete amino acid profile. But if they do that, then they absolutely can get adequate protein intake. But can we rely on our schools and elder care facilities to account for this? I'm not so sure.
No, sorry, millions more are fated to suffer and die from complications of diabetes and other metabolic conditions, before any meaningful change happens in US! But loads of us have had our eyes opened, and the changes *will* come in time!! 🤞
Check out India. Most of the population are vegan. Lentils, rice, beans and vegetables. Over 65 million have type 2 diabetes. My son in-law an Indian cook and vegetarian had stents implanted at the age of 43.
I''m sure this lady is very knowledgeable, but she is not hard core enough. Conflicts of interest should be very limited an disclosed. People who suppressed studies and lied about nutrition for profit should be in prison. This BS has gone on long enough.
Dietary guidelines written by political appointees 😮😅 Science is suppressed in all the possible fields to benefit the business . We are so close to finding habitable planet by spending billions rather than using th same money to make our planet a better place 😂😅
Nina is a gem, I have the utmost respect for her. xx
This is so informative! If I may use myself as a case in point: 68 year old woman, 5'6", 125 pounds, walk four miles daily. I was a vegetarian who focused on whole foods for a long time, thinking that was the best diet, so imagine my surprise when I had my A1C tested and it was 6.1. I immediately got a CGM and started tracking my responses to food. I can tell you, I dropped the carbohydrates (less than 100 grams per day now) in my diet like hot potatoes. I am now eating more meat and eggs, and will have my A1C tested again in a few months. Interestingly, though I was not trying to lose weight, I dropped four pounds within two weeks of lowering my carb intake.
I'd give you 100 thumbs up if I could!😊
I wore a CGM with my wife - she could eat the same bowl of oatmeal as I did but I would get a huge spike she would not. It seems I can't eat any carb naked safely even though I am not pre-diabetic.
This is one of the most interesting parts about using a CGM, you get to see individual variability, allowing you to personalize diet accordingly
A horrible example is hospital food. My husband has had major surgery and relatively long hospital stays. We are very low carb, ketovore for the last 4 years. I spent a great deal of time and energy preparing high protein , quality food to take to the hospital. I’d do it again! In spite of the surgeries he recovered remarkably well for 72. He now takes care of our acre and animals plus helping others often. The heart healthy diet in the hospital is beyond belief!!! Pancakes for breakfast with fruit, no real butter to be found only margarine in the whole hospital, bread or rolls with every meal plus desert😮😮. It could kill you!!!
I was a nurse for years and was sickened by some of the food. The other half of this equation, is that sick'ish people pick at their food and barely eat what's there, so lots of waste all around. If they were fed something as "un-fun" as meats and avocado, olives, ie low sugar/starch foods, they would eat even less. Hospitals are one thing - short term, but by the time people wind up in assisted living or a nursing home, they probably weren't eating any better before they got there. One vid I watched ran assisted living homes and fed them keto, with improvement in their cognition and more spontaneous movement and exercise.
@ you are right but I would love real bone broth, quality meat, good butter, and eggs offered first. No low fat anything. Real cream for coffee. I’ve canned my own chicken and beef bone broth and family is under instruction, in the event I’m hospitalized, to bring me good food. I’ve made it easy for them. I care not a wit what any of the dietitians say even if they are kind
@@pennyheisler7500 agree - but boy oh boy, just try to change any institution. Lots of nut running the system and they have more energy than the logical people, to reist and argue.
I want to see Nina Teicholz in JFK administration working on dietary guidelines…I just finished her book.. it’s a must read…
We agree!
Yes!
Agreed
You are spot on!
Nina should get a lot more honors and recognition , especially by the media.... when you're NOT driven by sincere motives, you DON'T use common sense - such is the present state of the world's food governance
Thank you for this very informative show. Nourishing our body with real foods is the ultimate act of self care.
Well said 👍
Eating good food is true Body Positivity, right? 🤔 🥩 🥓 🍳
Carnivore here. In less than 12 months I have lost 20kgs, 3 dress sizes down, cured blocked sweat glands, heat rash disappeared.
thats great. but I have to work hard for my weight loss and I love every part of the suffering and the fighting to keep the weight of bay
I don't intend to be cynical here, but what are the odds that this upcoming administration is going to mobilize against the corn and wheat subsidies? Do you guys genuinely believe that this is something that people at the policy level are going to be able to take back to their voters? I suppose I'm having difficulty imagining this collection of billionaires to do anything that works against other billionaires. Hoping there's promise I'm failing to see, but boy-howdy it doesn't seem at all likely.
Check out how many Republican Congressesmen represent electorates in the wheat and corn belt.
RFKJr has promised to fire the guidelines panel
Trump and RFK jr are working for the American people not billionaires, you already saw that Trump was trying to change things for the better for the average person in his first term…give him a chance.
To me neither.
Just look in shoppers food baskets at Costco. Americans love very high sugar foods.
We need to return to regenerative farming practices
AMEN
Yeah, follow the money. It is sad that science, integrity, and human rights lose out to this kind of corruption.
Thanks Nina for all the important work ❤ and thank you both for the good interview/review!
Nina, you look, terrific! It must be your diet😂! I’m nearly 80 years old and I’ve been a carnivore for over six years. Thanks to you and Gary and so many others. Keep up the good work.☸️🙏❤️
You realize she's only 59?
Nina is 59? Wow! I hope to look anywhere near that good at 59.
How can we as citizens help with this initiative? Would letters of concern directed to our political representatives help? We need a grass roots effort! I voted for Dr. Chaffee ( Carnivore ) but also hope this woman is seated! She is an amazing level headed. communicator.
One big thing you can do is drop a comment on the initial report released for the 2025 guidelines: www.regulations.gov/document/HHS-OASH-2024-0017-0001
Here’s a thing. My OMAD diet. Steak eggs and tallow ( all organic) cost the same as 1 Macdonald meal. And people would eat another meal in that day. So this would be a winning argument for us.
I just don't see how an administration that is planning to roll back regulation on business is also going to actively work against those corporate interests by promoting food policy that could potentially have a dramatic effect on the bottom line on those powerful industries (big food, insurance, medical and pharma). I think MAHA was just lip service to get elected. The mavericks will be reined in and business will chug along more profitably than ever. I would love to feel more optimistic, but I just don't see it happening.
Those large companies want to stay in business, if the people stop eating junk food they are forced to change what they produce.
@@Raenell-w9vIt's a nice thought but I don't see people, in large enough groups, stopping the consumption of hyper-palatable foods with little to no nutritional value in order to get these companies to stop producing these foods.
@@shiplesp From what I understand using my own body as a test subject, I can’t have a really healthy diet without being fat adapted. Becoming fat adapted takes knowledge (learning about nutrition) , discipline to stick with a solid zero carb diet and willingness to exercise and stick with the program. I would say 20% of Americans will go zero or low carb in their lifetime.
The picture on the airplane where everyone is eating McDonalds is worth 1000 words. Now if they were eating the beef patties exclusively that picture would tell a different story.
Including RFK!!! WTF 🤮
It's crazy. The military has a problem with obesity, and year by year, less people are able to meet the minimum physical standards required to join up. Whilst I hope the new administration cleans everything up, I realize the immense financial pressure working against any departure from the status quo, which favours the unholy trinity of the processed food industry, big pharma and the medical industrial complex. I just hope more people do their own research and discover the benefits of an ancestral diet.
love ya, Nina
You should see what they feed cancer patients-you'd be horrified.
And this is fed to them in a clinical setting.
40 years of an experiment that has gone and is going wrong, and they still persist in not changing it-totally nuts.
If you eat STUFF made by people in white coats, then expect to be treated by people in white coats, or worse still, those in blue theatre scrubs. If you are really unfortunate - you'll be handled with great care by those that wear black and drive a hearse.
Don't forget the supplemental meal replacement drinks. In Canada, they are called Boost and Ensure. They give them to cancer patients and old people.
Oh it’s every five years?!? I didn’t know that! I remember when she was fighting for the 2020 ones. This is exciting!
Sugar is addictive . Let’s make it a scheduled drug !
@cathygauronski5354 no need for more laws. Just educate people. Then it's up to them.
Sounds like the less-than-sane nutrition computer modelling mentioned at around 26 minutes, is on a par with the Imperial College epidemic computer modelling which has been shown to be so wildly inaccurate that the modellers should have been fired, but they're still there, still doing their modelling...
Let me get this straight- the USDA's "scientific committee" in charge of interpreting nutritional science is actually INCOMPETENT AT INTERPRETING NUTRITIONAL SCIENCE/RESEARCH?!?!?!
Where is John Ioannidis when we need him?
The Nutrition Coalition nominated Professor Ioannidis for the committee but he was denied. Things could have been much better with him there!
Regarding your comments (21:00) re plant-based foods as part of a nutritious diet (maybe combined with animal foods...as many omnivorous people do!) Are you referring to the studies done by Prof Christopher D Gardner of Stanford? He's often a guest on the ZOE nutrtion podcast, which always seems too plant-focused in my humble opinion. Wouldn't it be wonderful if they invited yourselves on to their channel for a chat? I hope it happens! They could do with some improved "balance" in their plant-centric nutritional health output!
The Zoe app was a red flag for me, right from the start.
When I watched that health meeting with Peterson, Kennedy and many more, I was thinking Nina should have been there.
Seventh Day Adventists, Animal Rights Activists, Plant-Based Food Industry, Vegan Advocates. Who else made this guidelines...?
Corrupt doctors.
😢for some reason some people just want to keep you sick 😷
For some reason it serves some people to remain sick. 🤒 😢 🤷♀️
Isn’t the problem the fact that baseline human health as accepted and used in these studies is a health of a junk food nation? Baseline human health needs to be based on breastfeeding to two years followed by only unprocessed foods with high quality protein like meat. Baseline Human health is far better than we expect and know
I hope that Joel Salatin ends up in USDA and Bobby K is HHS - wouldn't they support your recommendations ?
New admin is not a fan of any science. What makes you think that they will be any different around nutrition? It's going to be even more heavily biased towards corporations than it already is. To think otherwise is naive. You know how much low/no carb/carnivore has helped you (if you're following those). Keep at it and stay healthy. 😊
❤
Operation Warp Speed
Nina is amazing.
A big issue is that fun foods are, well just more fun. It's like trying to push prohibition on a nation of alcholics. The food industry has created these awful concoctions that are colorful, fun and hip, hip horray! The sweet, seed oil, salty goodies made by food companies have hijacked the brain of billions around the world. We all pretend that they are for special occasions but adults and children alike are getting way too much of all of this, and "way too much" is any more than once a month I think, if ever. There are no special occasions. Everyday is ok for pastry, ice cream, (even sugared yogurt), breakfast cereal with honey bunches of oats, Doritos, on and on.
How about Dr Caldwell Esselstyn, cardiologist (Cleveland Clinic), who has claimed that by putting his patients on a plant based diet with almost zero oil/fat added, has been able to open blocked arteries and reduce soft plaque in a majority of his patients. He himself and wife have followed such a diet since 1980 and at the advanced age of 91 and 87 they are healthy, energetic, physically agile and mentally alert?
He makes me laugh when he says the only way to get b12 is from eating dirt and because humans are so hygienic and wash their plants and hands we wash away the bacteria in the soil that makes B12 and that’s why vegans need to supplement. I can’t imagine people used to eat unwashed plants with globs of dirt?
search on the site of "the skeptical cardiologist"
ain't no fun in in that, in an RCT people voluntarily ate less when faced with such food.
@@philthompson1097 I can find zero RCTs by this doctor. There are MANY done about keto. That is all.
Bill Gates stench surrounds this subject.
I don’t understand why they get to have all the say in what people eat . They’re captured
So happy to see Nina entertaining me again!
Ultimate problem is that the USDA is involved in the dietary guidelines.
The guidelines are criminal!
You think you're going to avoid cronyism with the new administration? Fingers crossed.
Well, *I'm* a steakholder!! 😅😅
It’s a pity that thousands of Hindus in India will suffer poor health and possibly die before the rest of the world cottons on to how twisted these latest USDA food guidelines are. 😢😢😢
A senate committee held a meeting with a number of doctors that practice functional medicine and have knowledge of the human metabolic systems . It was placed on youtube by CNN and it is important to put in our two cents worth...even tho the power structure in congress is shifting! In themeantime, educare one by one the people in our sphere of influence!!!
Could you please provide the link?
Sounds like we are on our own for 5 more years...OK!
LOL... "Evidence based medicine"... How many times a day do we hear this phrase??? LOL
Experts ignoring the evidence... who would have thought it???
Raw full fat milk
look at the committee members' belly size first.
You had me watching until you talked about inferior plant protein. If that were true I wouldn’t be growing muscles working out eating legumes.
Thank you for your comment. And this is a crucial point to make. Those two comments aren't mutually exclusive. it is a biological fact that plant proteins (except for soy) are less bioavailable and less complete than animal proteins. But that doesn't mean that someone can't get adequate protein for optimal muscle development and metabolic health from plant proteins. They absolutely can. They simply have to eat more than they would from animal protein and they have to mix and match to get a complete amino acid profile. But if they do that, then they absolutely can get adequate protein intake. But can we rely on our schools and elder care facilities to account for this? I'm not so sure.
No, sorry, millions more are fated to suffer and die from complications of diabetes and other metabolic conditions, before any meaningful change happens in US! But loads of us have had our eyes opened, and the changes *will* come in time!! 🤞
It's 21st century now. Elon can easily make U-turn, X-ing : "I am carnivore"
Are you being realistic with 300+ million Americans?
Check out India. Most of the population are vegan. Lentils, rice, beans and vegetables. Over 65 million have type 2 diabetes. My son in-law an Indian cook and vegetarian had stents implanted at the age of 43.
alos look at their physical prowess and success in the Olympics
I''m sure this lady is very knowledgeable, but she is not hard core enough. Conflicts of interest should be very limited an disclosed. People who suppressed studies and lied about nutrition for profit should be in prison. This BS has gone on long enough.
Dietary guidelines written by political appointees 😮😅
Science is suppressed in all the possible fields to benefit the business .
We are so close to finding habitable planet by spending billions rather than using th same money to make our planet a better place 😂😅
Notice how it is called a “scientific” report? That tells you it’s anything but. We can all comment on this, the link is in the report.
Get rid of usda, fda,hhs
Go back to the four basic food groups
Yeah, and Protein is not a food group, it’s a macronutrient…!
STARCH SOUTION
I'm guessing the culprit is the vegetarian whose name rhymes with Walter Willett. Based on the little I know of him/her.
Keep that animal cruelty diet going
I think the Trump administration will be very transparent! Looking forward to changes 🙌
Very typical. Looking forward to RFK Jr.