@@Frank274 Suddenly I'm all confused, in the registration where it says "Pilot Level" is that as on the IPPI card? And the image of certificate is also the IPPI Card? It's not super explicit.. anyone?
Hi Sandra in the sky. Maybe catch you there. You will love it, the best place for siv as you are high enough for repeat manoeuvres and in smooth conditions. I took a tandem first and asked him to spiral etc so to know what to expect when it came to siv plus it gave me a good guide to launch and landing. My one piece of strong advice is to make sure you have a helmet headset with speakers right next to your ears, those that had a radio on lanyard couldn't hear instructions at critical times like stalling and spiralling,.
Really informative video before going to oludeniz. 4th time there 1st with cable car operating. Just a little update. October 22 .bus ride 13tlra cable car 130tlra. There was a last flight time wind changed direction on us and had to move from 1700mtrs to 1800mtrs and told if we don't get off in next 5min thats it .
Thanks frank I live in USA one day I would like to fly there and is great to see your videos explanation all a great tour operator of the cause of fly baby fly and get some air time. Fly high and soft landings.
@@r.k.2487 Freundliche Kommentare, aber ich bin sicher, Sie sind mehr als fähig :)) Wäre schön, wenn Sie Zeit haben, das Filmmaterial zu sehen, könnten Sie hier einen Link setzen, wenn Sie möchten? Kind comments but I'm sure you are more than capable :)) Would be nice to see the footage when you do have time, you could put a link here if you wish?
Hi fantastic video thanks ....sorry if I missed this info ... newbie questions ...do you take your wing and harness on the plane ...my harness is quite chunky with its bump protection or do you/ can you hire wing harness there and lastly I see the landings were always the same direction down the beach is the wind direction generally the same most days at the point of landing Many thanks mark
Nice video, cheers. I did 2 siv's with Jockey, Sept/Oct 2020 and am returning this October for some ad hoc flying. Interesting to see the teleferik now in action and the new system for paying, thank you. We were also told to register on that website at the time but in practice just had to show our licenses and register at the pay station on the road up on first flight then just a show of licence and sign in briefly on subsequent flights. I'll check this system out, cheers again.
@lieblingmike Thank you for the comments and I am glad that you found the information useful. Yes, I remember that from 2020, a bit of confusion. Now though, the forest pay station does not exist and they definitely check your pass. I am also back there in October so may well see you, happy flying! :))
@@Frank274 oh great, thanks again. I'm there for 8 days, Tuesday 4th to Thursday 13th so hopefully will bump into you (only on the ground of course). Mike Chandler
I am jealous Med! Never been at this time of year but I am sure that in the absence of any strong thermic activity pilots will have several flights a day which will still give a lot of flying. Hope you enjoy the trip. :))
This is a very helpful video thank you. We’re a couple with low air time and we’re heading there this week. Do you know of a video that gives a site brief?
Hi Dave, thanks for the comment. I don't know of any videos that specifically provide site briefs. For me the most important thing would be a good site brief which is often hard to come by in situ. The types of things I feel that are important to consider for a newer pilot would be: Knowing the areas to avoid flying near/over. Heading straight out toward the sea until confidence and experience builds. Not being flustered on launch because it can be very busy. Very little space to lay wing out so a really good familiarity with prep. Knowing the best areas to land to avoid obstacles and other pilots. You have seen some of these on my earlier video. I note that you have seen two videos; there is also a 2020 update that you may not have seen that may be useful (th-cam.com/video/CKOe690q7-k/w-d-xo.html) Hope that this helps.
@@Frank274 That’s a very helpful and informative reply. Thank you very much. We will obtain a site brief when we arrive from some friends we hope or we may take a cheeky tandem flight for familiarisation. Thanks again all the best.
@Dave Harper. Actually, two other suggestions: Do not be in a hurry to launch; spend some time looking at what is going on actually on launch and what is happening to wings immediately after launch. This can give you valuable information on flying conditions. Do not rule out going back down the mountain if you feel uncomfortable for any reason. Peer pressure can play a part in this and has lead to accidents in the past. I would not hesitate to go back down if I felt conditions were not right for me.
@@SkywalkerPaul I was able to go in October despite Corona. You can fly there all year but Oludeniz closes down for winter so getting accomodation can be an issue. The lower take off (1200m) is often used in winter if conditions higher up are not good. I guess it would be OK to see if accommodation is available in Ovacik and use the public buses for the Teleferik. Ich konnte trotz Corona im Oktober gehen. Sie können das ganze Jahr dorthin fliegen, aber Ölüdeniz ist für den Winter geschlossen, so dass es ein Problem sein kann, eine Unterkunft zu bekommen. Der untere Start (1200m) wird oft im Winter benutzt, wenn die Bedingungen in der Höhe nicht gut sind. Ich denke, es wäre in Ordnung zu sehen, ob es in Ovacik eine Unterkunft gibt und die öffentlichen Busse für die Teleferik zu nutzen.
Thanks for the comments Ben. It can be both, a general southerly wind of sufficient strength can generate ridge lift coming up the steep sides. But because there is a lot of exposed rock in that area the rocks heat up and from about midday will generate thermals, often very strong. Hope that answers your question.
Good question!! I only ever go Sep/Oct but I am actually there at the moment, arrived yesterday. There was some thermic flying from about 2pm but you needed to be able to get across to it. Not easy currently as they have closed all launches apart from 1200m. That is a first for me and pretty much everybody is hoping that they sort it out soon. In short, those of us here are still hoping for thermals but due to a very cold winter they may be slow in appearing.🤞
@@Frank274 Thanks. Where is good to find midday thermals from the 1200m launch? And I know everyone is saying something different, but have you heard anything about when the higher launches will be opened this season?
@@turkeyphant simple answer, nobody knows. I have spoken to a lot of locals who have been trying to get them open without success. They are closed due to snow blocking the roads higher up. Thermals can be found left of 1200m launch beyond the obvious ridge. The trick is getting there!
Hi again Frank, looking forward to being out there in a month. Planning ahead so have just started filling form. Have selected P3 as I'm cp rated but not sure of what to upload when it asks for Educator Undertaking. What am I missing here please? Thanks in advance.
@lieblingmike I cannot remember the form specifically as it is two or three years since I registered but I think that may relate to an instructors certificate. My suggestion, if you are not an instructor, is to leave it and add only the files to show your current qualifications. Hope that helps.
Incredibly helpful video Frank. Thank you. Can you still just walk up to the Kiosk and buy your ticket? Is the purpose of this system to try and space out the timings of take offs, or just have a clearer log of use, or get the tandem pilots to register passengers. Is it this way or no way!! Once again thank you.
@glidewatch thanks for the comments Bill, appreciated. You can just walk up to the kiosk and buy your tickets provided you have your flight code to scan. I don’t know the purpose of the timings as nobody attempted to regulate the launches in any way and of course, nobody knows what launch you end up on due to conditions. It is partly to do with tandem pilots as they have to fill in the logs as well as solo pilots. Yes, at the moment it really is this way or no way. I saw first hand a number of pilots turned away due to not having registered. One of the reasons I did the update as soon as I could.
Frank, going in October 2022 and saw some of the details in this but cannot get the current prices for a paraglider pilot, sorry to be so Duh but could you tell me prices in TL. :-) Thanks!
Hi Bill, They were 30TL for ride up whether by cable or tandem bus and 60TL for the launch. That was in April, it would not surprise me if it went up 5-10TL each before October. I am also going in October; first couple of weeks so may see you there. :))
Fantastic and helpful video. I can only find the registration app for business users. Is there a separate app for solo pilots and if so how do I find it? The link that you left does not seem to work.
Hi Allan Thank you for the comments :) The link I gave is the one that you need for amateur pilots, I have just put it in my browser and it has gone to the correct page. Not sure what issues you are having but as an alternate approach go to: shmfethiye.kapadokya.edu.tr/en/fethiye Then select 'English' top right, then select the red box (also top right) that states 'New amateur application' and go from there.
@@Frank274 Thank you for your quick reply. The link did work when I tried again. One further question if that's ok. Which pilot certificate needs to be attached to the application form?
@@allanblackett8345 That depends on where you are. You need to provide them with an up to date document that shows your current flying qualification. This is a document usually issued by your countries' governing body. For example, in the UK, this would be the British Hang Gliding & Paragliding Association. I hope this helps.
@@Frank274 hi thanks for the video. I'm heading to oludeniz next week. What pilot certificate does bhpa give? I've never had one, only my bhpa membership card. Is bhpa a necessity and is it checked? I can't seem to remember where I've put mine. Many thanks, callum
@@bover86 you only need to take a photo of your BHPA membership card including qualifications. Just submit those and they should be acceptable. I’m there at the moment and would highly recommend getting one of the buses up the mountain as the cable car is not at all well organised currently.
The best way to go up to the launches is the cable car right ? what is the cost of one flight including the climb to the launch I am a bit confused.....
Hi Med; the tandem mini buses (30-35TL) still go up so lots of pilots get them. I used them a few times in October but went predominantly up on the cable car. If you go by cable car you will need to get the Dolmus (local bus) to the cable car station (5TL). Then you will pay for the cable car up (30TL) and then pay for launch (60TL). So you need to pay 60TL for launching no matter how you get to the top. I hope that helps.
That can vary considerably from talking to other pilots. I never got any response at all from my first attempt and it took about two hours on my second. Some have mentioned several days. The best advise I can give is to submit well before you get out there. If you don't hear within a day, submit again or contact them by email.
Hi. thanks for the great video. Does anyone check the documents or can I enter any pilot license number into that system and no one will care more about me?
Hi, thanks for the comments, glad you liked it.👍 I cannot say to what extent they check documents. They ask you to upload several items including Face ID but not sure if they follow that up in any way. There does not appear to be any later checking of documents, at least at the moment.
Thanks for putting this up - er one question what’s with the music 🎶 hahah
😁I guess it must be an age thing😀
Ah, a good old Lava colour Base. Great looker!
Yes, was my favourite of that time :))
This was so useful information. Now I know what to expect! Thanks!!
Glad you found it useful; thank you for commenting. :)
@@Frank274 Suddenly I'm all confused, in the registration where it says "Pilot Level" is that as on the IPPI card? And the image of certificate is also the IPPI Card? It's not super explicit.. anyone?
@@sandrainthesky1011 I just gave the information on my national card (BHPA) but I’m sure that the info on the IPPI would also be acceptable.
Hi Sandra in the sky. Maybe catch you there. You will love it, the best place for siv as you are high enough for repeat manoeuvres and in smooth conditions. I took a tandem first and asked him to spiral etc so to know what to expect when it came to siv plus it gave me a good guide to launch and landing. My one piece of strong advice is to make sure you have a helmet headset with speakers right next to your ears, those that had a radio on lanyard couldn't hear instructions at critical times like stalling and spiralling,.
@@lieblingmike Hi Mike, thanks for the avice, mine has a speaker mic so can be clipped on to my helmet strap if need be ;) cheers!
Really informative video before going to oludeniz. 4th time there 1st with cable car operating. Just a little update. October 22 .bus ride 13tlra cable car 130tlra. There was a last flight time wind changed direction on us and had to move from 1700mtrs to 1800mtrs and told if we don't get off in next 5min thats it .
Thanks frank I live in USA one day I would like to fly there and is great to see your videos explanation all a great tour operator of the cause of fly baby fly and get some air time. Fly high and soft landings.
Your welcome and glad you enjoyed it.
Hope you get to fly there at some point; happy flying!
Gut, dass es noch geklappt hat und Du hinfliegen konntest! War auch dort und habe die Zeit sehr genossen. Nächstes Jahr wieder!
Groß! Schön, dass Ihre Reise geklappt hat. Vielleicht bekommst du dich nächstes Jahr auf Video?!
@@Frank274 Got some really nice footage on my Gopro and Insta 360 One X2, but I'm short of time an talent to cut such great videos as you do!
@@r.k.2487 Freundliche Kommentare, aber ich bin sicher, Sie sind mehr als fähig :))
Wäre schön, wenn Sie Zeit haben, das Filmmaterial zu sehen, könnten Sie hier einen Link setzen, wenn Sie möchten?
Kind comments but I'm sure you are more than capable :))
Would be nice to see the footage when you do have time, you could put a link here if you wish?
@@Frank274 I'll do my very best 😊
Hi fantastic video thanks ....sorry if I missed this info ... newbie questions ...do you take your wing and harness on the plane ...my harness is quite chunky with its bump protection or do you/ can you hire wing harness there and lastly I see the landings were always the same direction down the beach is the wind direction generally the same most days at the point of landing
Many thanks mark
Nice video, cheers. I did 2 siv's with Jockey, Sept/Oct 2020 and am returning this October for some ad hoc flying. Interesting to see the teleferik now in action and the new system for paying, thank you. We were also told to register on that website at the time but in practice just had to show our licenses and register at the pay station on the road up on first flight then just a show of licence and sign in briefly on subsequent flights. I'll check this system out, cheers again.
@lieblingmike Thank you for the comments and I am glad that you found the information useful.
Yes, I remember that from 2020, a bit of confusion. Now though, the forest pay station does not exist and they definitely check your pass.
I am also back there in October so may well see you, happy flying! :))
@@Frank274 oh great, thanks again. I'm there for 8 days, Tuesday 4th to Thursday 13th so hopefully will bump into you (only on the ground of course). Mike Chandler
@@lieblingmike , will be there over that period so let's hope the flying weather plays ball for us, may well see you on launch :))
@@Frank274 Do you need to take your BHPA licence out? Or just the pass for the lift?
@@DiggeryDoodle I have never been asked for it but being careful by nature I always prefer to have it with me just in case😁
Thank you so much for sharing!
Thank you for all this great info
You are very welcome and thank you for your comment😊
Nice video thank you so much ! we will be there in a couple of days it's not the right time I guess....
I am jealous Med! Never been at this time of year but I am sure that in the absence of any strong thermic activity pilots will have several flights a day which will still give a lot of flying. Hope you enjoy the trip. :))
Another great video. Thanks.
@youtischia thank you very much for the kind comments😊
This is a very helpful video thank you.
We’re a couple with low air time and we’re heading there this week.
Do you know of a video that gives a site brief?
Hi Dave, thanks for the comment.
I don't know of any videos that specifically provide site briefs. For me the most important thing would be a good site brief which is often hard to come by in situ.
The types of things I feel that are important to consider for a newer pilot would be:
Knowing the areas to avoid flying near/over.
Heading straight out toward the sea until confidence and experience builds.
Not being flustered on launch because it can be very busy.
Very little space to lay wing out so a really good familiarity with prep.
Knowing the best areas to land to avoid obstacles and other pilots. You have seen some of these on my earlier video.
I note that you have seen two videos; there is also a 2020 update that you may not have seen that may be useful (th-cam.com/video/CKOe690q7-k/w-d-xo.html)
Hope that this helps.
@@Frank274 That’s a very helpful and informative reply. Thank you very much.
We will obtain a site brief when we arrive from some friends we hope or we may take a cheeky tandem flight for familiarisation.
Thanks again all the best.
@Dave Harper. Actually, two other suggestions:
Do not be in a hurry to launch; spend some time looking at what is going on actually on launch and what is happening to wings immediately after launch. This can give you valuable information on flying conditions.
Do not rule out going back down the mountain if you feel uncomfortable for any reason. Peer pressure can play a part in this and has lead to accidents in the past. I would not hesitate to go back down if I felt conditions were not right for me.
I need to go to that place! Awesome flight 💯
Thank you for the comment. I hope you manage to get there at some point👍
@@Frank274 dieses Jahr hat's wegen Corona nicht geklappt. Bis wann kann man da fliegen? Auch jetzt im Winter?
@@SkywalkerPaul
I was able to go in October despite Corona.
You can fly there all year but Oludeniz closes down for winter so getting accomodation can be an issue.
The lower take off (1200m) is often used in winter if conditions higher up are not good.
I guess it would be OK to see if accommodation is available in Ovacik and use the public buses for the Teleferik.
Ich konnte trotz Corona im Oktober gehen.
Sie können das ganze Jahr dorthin fliegen, aber Ölüdeniz ist für den Winter geschlossen, so dass es ein Problem sein kann, eine Unterkunft zu bekommen.
Der untere Start (1200m) wird oft im Winter benutzt, wenn die Bedingungen in der Höhe nicht gut sind.
Ich denke, es wäre in Ordnung zu sehen, ob es in Ovacik eine Unterkunft gibt und die öffentlichen Busse für die Teleferik zu nutzen.
simply awesome
Thank you very much Jon👍
Nice video. Why does the bowl give you lift? Is it air coming up through the mountain or thermals around that area?
Thanks for the comments Ben.
It can be both, a general southerly wind of sufficient strength can generate ridge lift coming up the steep sides. But because there is a lot of exposed rock in that area the rocks heat up and from about midday will generate thermals, often very strong.
Hope that answers your question.
Are there only thermals later in the year? Seems there's nothing at all at the moment in April/May.
Good question!! I only ever go Sep/Oct but I am actually there at the moment, arrived yesterday.
There was some thermic flying from about 2pm but you needed to be able to get across to it. Not easy currently as they have closed all launches apart from 1200m. That is a first for me and pretty much everybody is hoping that they sort it out soon.
In short, those of us here are still hoping for thermals but due to a very cold winter they may be slow in appearing.🤞
@@Frank274 Thanks. Where is good to find midday thermals from the 1200m launch? And I know everyone is saying something different, but have you heard anything about when the higher launches will be opened this season?
@@turkeyphant simple answer, nobody knows. I have spoken to a lot of locals who have been trying to get them open without success. They are closed due to snow blocking the roads higher up.
Thermals can be found left of 1200m launch beyond the obvious ridge. The trick is getting there!
Hi again Frank, looking forward to being out there in a month. Planning ahead so have just started filling form. Have selected P3 as I'm cp rated but not sure of what to upload when it asks for Educator Undertaking. What am I missing here please? Thanks in advance.
@lieblingmike I cannot remember the form specifically as it is two or three years since I registered but I think that may relate to an instructors certificate.
My suggestion, if you are not an instructor, is to leave it and add only the files to show your current qualifications.
Hope that helps.
Incredibly helpful video Frank. Thank you. Can you still just walk up to the Kiosk and buy your ticket? Is the purpose of this system to try and space out the timings of take offs, or just have a clearer log of use, or get the tandem pilots to register passengers. Is it this way or no way!! Once again thank you.
@glidewatch thanks for the comments Bill, appreciated. You can just walk up to the kiosk and buy your tickets provided you have your flight code to scan.
I don’t know the purpose of the timings as nobody attempted to regulate the launches in any way and of course, nobody knows what launch you end up on due to conditions. It is partly to do with tandem pilots as they have to fill in the logs as well as solo pilots.
Yes, at the moment it really is this way or no way. I saw first hand a number of pilots turned away due to not having registered. One of the reasons I did the update as soon as I could.
Frank, going in October 2022 and saw some of the details in this but cannot get the current prices for a paraglider pilot, sorry to be so Duh but could you tell me prices in TL. :-) Thanks!
Hi Bill, They were 30TL for ride up whether by cable or tandem bus and 60TL for the launch. That was in April, it would not surprise me if it went up 5-10TL each before October.
I am also going in October; first couple of weeks so may see you there. :))
begining june cable car was 40 TL and Pilots were 90TL. I am going in october 2022 again but due to inflation prices adjusted daily.
Fantastic and helpful video. I can only find the registration app for business users. Is there a separate app for solo pilots and if so how do I find it? The link that you left does not seem to work.
Hi Allan
Thank you for the comments :)
The link I gave is the one that you need for amateur pilots, I have just put it in my browser and it has gone to the correct page.
Not sure what issues you are having but as an alternate approach go to:
shmfethiye.kapadokya.edu.tr/en/fethiye
Then select 'English' top right, then select the red box (also top right) that states 'New amateur application' and go from there.
@@Frank274 Thank you for your quick reply. The link did work when I tried again. One further question if that's ok. Which pilot certificate needs to be attached to the application form?
@@allanblackett8345 That depends on where you are.
You need to provide them with an up to date document that shows your current flying qualification.
This is a document usually issued by your countries' governing body.
For example, in the UK, this would be the British Hang Gliding & Paragliding Association.
I hope this helps.
@@Frank274 hi thanks for the video. I'm heading to oludeniz next week. What pilot certificate does bhpa give? I've never had one, only my bhpa membership card.
Is bhpa a necessity and is it checked?
I can't seem to remember where I've put mine.
Many thanks, callum
@@bover86 you only need to take a photo of your BHPA membership card including qualifications. Just submit those and they should be acceptable.
I’m there at the moment and would highly recommend getting one of the buses up the mountain as the cable car is not at all well organised currently.
Hi great video but where is the link for this APP to fly.Thanks.
Thank you for the comment Ian, and I see that you have now found the link😀👍
The best way to go up to the launches is the cable car right ? what is the cost of one flight including the climb to the launch I am a bit confused.....
Hi Med; the tandem mini buses (30-35TL) still go up so lots of pilots get them. I used them a few times in October but went predominantly up on the cable car. If you go by cable car you will need to get the Dolmus (local bus) to the cable car station (5TL). Then you will pay for the cable car up (30TL) and then pay for launch (60TL). So you need to pay 60TL for launching no matter how you get to the top.
I hope that helps.
When I was there in 2020 the minibus was usually 20L so marginally cheaper than the cable car but they may have levelled up by now.
Hi again how long does it take for the details to be checked you have submitted on the form,Thanks
That can vary considerably from talking to other pilots.
I never got any response at all from my first attempt and it took about two hours on my second. Some have mentioned several days.
The best advise I can give is to submit well before you get out there. If you don't hear within a day, submit again or contact them by email.
Ok thanks for your quick reply.
Hi. thanks for the great video. Does anyone check the documents or can I enter any pilot license number into that system and no one will care more about me?
Hi, thanks for the comments, glad you liked it.👍
I cannot say to what extent they check documents. They ask you to upload several items including Face ID but not sure if they follow that up in any way. There does not appear to be any later checking of documents, at least at the moment.
Why is TH-cam suggesting this AFTER I left 😅
@Phillippe Larcher; I don't know but I hope you had a great time!! :)) Just got back from there myself :)
@@Frank274 :)
Lol found it.