I found Caleb’s channel before anyone else and he worked hard to get where he is at. He’s very honest and real and as long as he’s happy that’s all that matters
No one should be upset over a re-seller, bro is just trying to make some money to take care of himself and his family. Also, no one is forced to buy anything from him. I'm a re-seller too, so I get it.
I emulated the Celebrity Deathmatch game recently, and damn I miss that shit during Super Bowl halftime! Haha I vividly remember Pamela Andeson being in one haha
The GameCube gambit - specifically the Go Go Hypergrind episode - is how I found your guy's content in the first place. From Phoenix Resale to Pixel Game Squad to Pixel Plus and so forth, it's been a really fun journey following your guy's adventures.
This is one of my favorite Pixel Plus episodes… Caleb was the gateway channel to most of the collecting channels I watch now, I just miss his collecting videos, but the channel is still good
When explained this way it makes more sense. Lowkey the thing I hate about my personal collection is my inability to get rid of games I know I won’t play. A small voice in my head thinks. “Hey…. You might want to play that game 20 years from now.” I respect the ability to reduce.
Thank you guys. I have been a collector for years and dont even trade stuff, but I love watching Caleb. He is just a guy running a business and it cracks me up he gets so much hate. Seems like a genuine honest guy willing to teach his journey. He is easily one of my favorite youtubers and will never hate on someone making a living in a hobby I love.
I'm a re-seller too. I re-sell electronics, mostly iPads, Tablets, BOSE Stereos, things like that and IDK why anyone would want to hate on someone just trying to hustle and make some money. Trust me, it's not as easy as it seems either it can be very mentally exhausting dealing with customers and returns and all that. Also, I don't think it's anyone's business if Caleb is a gamer or if he has a love for video games. Why does that even matter? It doesn't matter at all!
@@LeadMe2TheBliss Right and if anyone thinks about it really how would you buy anything retro game related or otherwise if not technically through someone reselling it. Just crazy people get butt hurt like this one guy kept them from getting a deal
I wouldn’t have found reselling, or started my (very tiny) TH-cam channel if it wasn’t for Caleb. I would love to be able to have done what he has done. I just don’t find games for as good of deals or as consistently as he does. So now I just sell everything. But he got me started. I’ll never be able to make the connection of why people hate resellers. I think everyone should do it. Even as a side hustle. Why not have more money in your pocket?
I have mad respect for all of you guys, including Caleb. I basically found each channel through the other, pretty much found you guys and then through you guys that's where I found not only retro Rick but gabbo and Caleb and mort and gone though old seasons of the game chasers and went back to watching storage wars after stopping a number of years ago just to find the episodes with Dusty. All of you guys, Riff & Ricky especially, Make all this feel more than just a community, like we're all really good friends by extension. I learned a lot about what to look for at flea markets and swap meets more carefully All thanks to Riff,
Never understood why Caleb gets so much hate. He freely gives away some of the best information and hidden gems in the reseller space. He is the one who got me into these kind of videos in the first place. I found out about riff and retro rick from seeing them in Calebs channel. Your honesty is truly something rare in the TH-cam space and i greatly appreciate it. Real recognize real hommie. ❤💪
When explained this way it makes more sense. Lowkey the thing I hate about my personal collection is my inability to get rid of games I know I won’t play. A small voice in my head thinks. “Hey…. You might want to play that game 20 years from now.” I respect the ability to cull.
Caleb, I have been following you since the early Corona period. I am not sure how many years it has been. I really enjoy you being honest, because of you, I got introduced to Retro Rick and Pixel Game Squad through Riff. I live vicariously through your successes. Good for you all!
I personally have always enjoyed and appreciated what Phoenix has put out. It is a very different take but I find it awesome to get a little view from the other side. I'm not a re-seller or big collector but I do enjoy the special little differences that these TH-cam channels bring from Pixel Game Squad to Retro to Phoenix. Appreciate everything shared.
caleb's trasparency the key to his success. he was honest from the start and he just made a business out of his hobby/passion for collecting games. he was not like other game collecting channel in youtube, he was honest about everything because reselling was the core of his channel in order to fund his collecting but now the collecting side of the channel has been lost because his focus is now the business side instead of the hobby side of it. kudos to you caleb for being transparent!
Top 2 reasons people hate Caleb: 1. His Amazon store has worse prices than DKOldies and he acts like a smug business know it all when his whole business model is ripping off old women who buy games on Amazon 2. GameCube Gambit
And these things deserve “hate”? To address these points: 1-how does that affect those that don’t pay? They don’t have to buy. AND 2 - guy sold part of his collection. Emphasis on HIS. Those that are against it simply need to grow up. It’s annoying when there’s a hierarchy amongst nerds.
I met this scumbag at the so cal game expo and asked him to sign my hat. He laughed at me and then I cried 😭😭😭 lol I'm kidding. Caleb was super nice, we took a pic together and he signed my hat. Great guy!!
hate comes from the bottom. only angry frustrated people need to write stupid comments. you could get 99 positive comments and 1 negative, but that negative one will stick in our minds because we're confused as to why someone would dislike us (as people). Chris, read this comment, we love you! LOL. the Pixel Family is full of good hearted people. much love all
I wish I could have talk to Caleb about the Gamecube gambit as a turning point in his channel. There is things he doesn't seem to realize. I saw him at Midwest gaming classic but just meeting someone for the first time and being like 'hey let me criticize you' isn't really a nice thing to do. But to start with people were living vicariously through him. We can't just go out and buy every gamecube game we want, we were watching Caleb do it and empathizing those feelings ourselves. So when he sells his collection it goes against what a large majority of people would do and we feel 'betrayed' or at least it breaks that immersion that brought us to the channel in the first place. For most people who collect games, when you collect it you want it forever, you don't sell it without a very good reason or a very long thought process. And I could go on but it at least starts there.
That is very strange. To get attached so some one else’s collection. This is TH-cam it’s all entertainment these creators are trying to keep you entertained. I don’t mean to sound like an asshole but if folks really think the way you do, they seriously need to take a step back and re evaluate how much all this retro video game stuff means to you.
@@gilbertoarellano8525it just shows that he buys as low as possible to not collect but to resell. Most of us do the same thing but we intend on keeping it. Not reselling it. If Caleb ever acts like he wants something we know it’s not for HIM it’s for profit and that is the opposite of a ton of his viewers
Gabbo vs Caleb hate argument is easy. Gabbo doesn’t have a app that he charges for that funnels games to him to resell for top dollar. He also asks for discounts for EVERYTHING when the goal is never to keep it. I bet Gabbo didn’t charge Riff a premium for the nes games he bought from him 😂 Gabbo personality is also much more likeable then Caleb
@@pfromdapab Again these TH-camrs are entertainers they are here so you can watch their content and if you like it hopefully stick around. Why would what anyone does with their collection especially someone who profits off creating content matter to me? I’m a collector myself I’ve sold certain items whenever I needed some quick cash does that not make me a real collector?
I would say regarding Phoenix Resale it’s hard for a collector to understand “collecting” let’s use the game cube gambit for instance to turn around and sale it makes the “love/nostalgia” for the journey seem disingenuous because as collectors it’s so hard for us to let go of those games we love. This is why I could never get into his channel. It’s just because any journey Caleb would take me on, I know is going to end in him just selling it making it seem like he doesn’t really care about it at all. I understand he is a seller and maybe he doesn’t need to acquire games and keep them forever to enjoy them but that’s hard for collectors to understand. I hope this makes since.
Maybe we need an episode that covers Cost Accounting where they discuss break even, cost of goods sold, inventory, overhead, employee costs, and tax liabilities.
Pixel Plus 😢 guys, boys…Phoenix Resale is genuine!!! Genuinely ruining mom and pop shops all over! Glad YOU guys are getting paid and having a blast! 1UP app, Goodiez, Mercari, WhatNot, KILLING the scene!!! Your legacy will be forever remembered as the DUDES that decided it was all about THEM not the community. Narcissists! Oh yeah, PART 2 video now in production talking about ALL OF YOU!!! Time to open the dam and hear from REAL gamers/collectors!
People on the internet would have you believe that if you didn't drive around to local garage sales and swap meets, you are a scumbag who is supporting the death of retro gaming.
Man, that really sucks to see how much hate Phoenix Resale gets. I genuinely enjoy his content, and I have a similar sense of humor. He will always have my sub.
I am 100% guilty of coming in to your videos originally with a negative view on reselling but it didn’t take long for me to realize you are a genuine person just making good content and a living. The game collecting community that thrives here on TH-cam and at conventions has also become something special itself.
Really good stuff. Caleb has it right with the idea of being both a collector AND a reseller, and it’s totally his choice to share his collecting side or not, and to have og Lance validating all that. Dude! I watched EVERY episode of gaming in the 80s or whatever it was called! Such a TH-cam CLASSIC! 💪👍👊😁
Caleb’s transparency is part of the virtue: Justice. It is a rare trait, one of good character that represents honesty. We should be grateful of him, not resentful.
I’ve watched a lot of Caleb’s videos and I think he gets the hate because it’s “trending” to hate on resellers in the retro community even though 90% of the community does it. He’s open and honest about it though, which goes against the “cool guy collector that has never EVER resold” mentality
i really love you all! calebs a great a good and honest guy! and so is everyone at pixel plus, i really like everyone being honest! and im glad im getting to know you guys, and the retro gaming resseller content youtubers!
What I appreciate is you all guys stick together and support each other which is really missing from the community as far as the TH-camr’s go. The hate for you all guys is weird. People overlook that as Hobby’s grow (video game collecting) or Pokemon card collecting the market sky rockets. Demand causes spikes in prices. And not resellers necessarily like guys like Heckin Steve like to say. Keep up the good content Fellas 🙌🏻
Love Caleb and his content. I collect and feel so great when I get a grail, but I do resell because I feel instead of something collecting dust on my shelf, I want to get it on to the next person who is going to enjoy it. Reselling actually drops the price of games because the more on the market the less they are worth. Personally without resellers some of these grails would be 3x the price.
Ive been reselling for more than 30 years. Before video games and ebay you could go to garage sales and find "antiques" and sell those to specialty shops and nobody cared. I think a lot of the hate with video games comes with a lot of entitlement game collectors have. Oh that game was $5 a few years ago and now it's well over $50 thanks to resellers. There's usually a lot of factors that go into why one item has intrinsic value and what makes that value rise, and sometimes people just need to point a finger and blame somebody. I do know that some haters out there worked at places like GameStop. Lol.
The funny thing that nobody really gets is it’s not really the resellers that have jacked up the prices, it’s the people that have money now that missed out on things when they were kids. And it’s all about the supply and demand, they want those old games and bid higher and higher on eBay making the value go up. That’s capitalism, welcome to America lol And on top of that the pandemic made things explode because anyone that ever had any interest in gaming bought those things because a lot of them had nothing else to do so they bought that stuff. Personally I have multiple hobbies that can be expensive and I don’t make a ton of money so I look for anything that I can to make money on and then find the stuff I want. And like Retro Rick and other TH-camrs say you need to ask at garage sales when you want to get video games or whatever else, it works for sure, a few weeks ago my town had city wide garage sales and I scored at a few sales, the biggest lot wasn’t even out, I got it because I asked, and I sold about half of it a couple weeks later for 10x what I paid, which is helping me pay part of my credit card so that’s helping me a ton too. There’s nothing wrong with reselling whether it’s your job or side hustle and in my opinion the people that cry about it the most are simply just jealous, and some are even sitting in their parents basement and don’t have a job…lol
I got into reselling about a year BEFORE I discovered retro Rick and Phoenix resale and the whole TH-cam reseller scene. I have no problem with reselling in general (though of course I find it tiresome that it’s harder to find deals for me personally) but the TH-cam scene has definitely contributed to rising prices. I had an obscure PS4 game on auction on eBay (thought it was on “Buy it Now”) and it didn’t move for weeks and then Metal Jesus Rocks did a video on it as a hidden gem and it sold that same week for FOUR TIMES what I thought was the buy it now price.
There is scumbag resellers, scumbag hoarders, scammers and even scumbag buyers. Im a buyer, seller and most of all a collector. I try to be Nice and fair and make good deals
Strictly my opinion, negative people are the "loudest". I'm positive there are more "silent" people that enjoy Caleb's channels and content than there are people that are negative towards his channels. Keep moving forward Caleb, all the best.
Im not a gamer or reseller i just enjoy watching all you guys and retro rick. I have a shelf full of games going back to nes "atari is in a tote." Im not sure why it started but it started with Caleb's channel. My young daughter loves the retro stuff and im so happy she gets to play the stuff i grew up with.
also as a creator with a disability, ive gotten so much hate over the years and im still a small youtuber, i will say it is really hard to handle it some times, but you guys riff and caleb especially, inpire me, to ignore the hate, or at the very least handle it better, so thank you!
I love Caleb and really look forward to his videos. That said I can understand the hate he gets being a reseller. Despite us all being a reseller in one way or another.
People just want to hate. People sometimes get upset if someone finds a game for a certain price and sells it at value. They want the price you paid. But you did the work. You hunted. I never understood the hate for Caleb because he literally came into the community reselling. People shouldn’t count peoples pockets or be so concerned with other’s business. But what I realized with the gaming community and TH-cam, people really become invested so there is a thin line. People also don’t really actually know people, their character, or their personality. What I realized just seeing Caleb and being around him frequently especially at SoCal is Caleb is pretty quiet. People often judge character poorly and sometimes things get misinterpreted. They think because he doesn’t socialize as much that he’s a bad person but that’s not true. He’s different. What I gather is he stays to himself and talk to who he wants. Nothing wrong with it. Another great episode fellas! Salute to everyone there. All great guys that I can vouch for
What's funny is that I always thought that Riff was always just joking about so many people hating on Caleb... I have been watching him since like 20-30k subs and his channel just exploded... so I figured he was just super liked because of how quick he blew up. Kinda crazy that people take content like this seriously enough to put the energy putting someone down over it. Gaming is fun... I think that is forgotten by way too many
Caleb is a bean counter. Right or wrong, people hate bean counters and as analytics continue to have a greater impact on our lives the more intense the feelings towards such things will escalate. Sports are a good microcosm of that. Many fans, athletes, and media members hate the prevalence of analytics because they see them as removing the human elements of the game.
9:30 silence followed by nodding heads!! i really liked this part. showed me everyone in the frame was actually listening to him and truly understood what was being told. Calebs detailed honesty for sure does breed hate from people, but those who are like minded and business savvy, can learn a WHOLE LOT from his pesale videos. from business models/strategies, tips on how to ship items safely.. and hes telling the whole world for free!! how can you dislike this man for real. The Phoenix will rise from the ashes once again!
Right or wrong, resellers are essentially making money at the expense of somebody else. Essentially the same reason people just destroy game stop for the amount they pay people for their games. Caleb is just essentially a one-man mobile game stop. The only part I dislike is the exchange between resellers at conventions and such that inflates the prices of games and collectibles. It prices out people from purchasing items they genuinely want. Love the pod!!
Perfectly said. It really is that simple. It's not as bad when a collector sells games because it's occasional and they don't make their living from it (and therefore it doesn't affect market price as much). People dislike middlemen in any industry because the mindset is that they just increase prices to make a profit without adding any value.
I've been collecting since around 2012, way before I knew it had a huge community on TH-cam, didn't discover it until the pandemic. The issue folks have with resellers and/or flippers is because at least some tangible portion of the time, they can be a net negative and affect prices going up even more than normal. At this point, it feels like a deal is unattainable unless I'm buying a LOT of games or someone's collection all at once, but that's not a reality for most and honestly it's nothing that I would do.... Resellers CAN do that because for them they're conducting business. I don't like the hate that Phoenix Resale gets, but I believe reselling gets conflated with scalpers, who DO suck. I will say, the prices on everything has gotten ridiculous, the offering of pennies so that you can make profit and the over reliance of Price Charting on EVERY DEAL and what you price stuff at -- it's exhausting. Best of luck to him and others because I enjoy their content generally....but I understand both sides.
im a coin collector but i dont collect ALL coins and i am also a fulltime reseller for over 20 years. caleb i truly enjoyed the collecting series, im a hunter of all good finds, whether that be grails, error coins, best flip, metal detecting finds, gemstones, shells, foraging, you name it....the hunt is the fun and reselling is the payoff and outcome of it all most the time. we're resellers and who cares what the haters say!💯😘
Some of my favorite early collecting vids were of Pat the NES Punk at swap meets, and maybe that’s where you got the “scumbag” name from, but anyone who watched those and then watched Caleb basically do the thing Pat hated by getting to events early and making huge bulk deals automatically put a face to the hate.
I used to watch Caleb when he was Sub 70K and thoroughly enjoyed his videos. But little by little I just didn't enjoy his behind the scenes reselling and buying practices. I get it he's a reseller he needs to pay his bills. But after personally selling off my 90 percent of my collection I genuinely felt like I was getting ripped off By Caleb himself 😂😂😂 But let's be Honest the running Joke of Pixel game squad and Other constantly calling him A scumbag reseller really isn't helping him either.
Interesting you bring up the joke about Caleb being a “scumbag” or the money meme contributing to the perception and the hate. I think Riff may want to dial that back if he wants to help him out a little.
So I liked Caleb early on and still like his stuff but I do find that he seems to be much more interested in the money and the flip than the collection. We almost never see him play or talk about his new favorite game or his private pick ups for his own collection. I think if he let himself be known more as a gamer/collector it would help.
I need to learn the Reselling aspect. I buy and collect/ Hoard. Youre all amazing i what you do. Keeping up on collecting reselling and TH-camr requires dedication. I made an attempt with the channel I have. I have more videos than subscribers. I have been watching Many of the people who come on here and will remain a fan for life. Keep doing what you do and Enjoy.
its really not that hard to understand. people dont hate caleb because theyre jealous, or because hes successful, or any of the reasons cited in this video. simply put, caleb takes something which incredibly special to people, gaming, and through his content reduces it to nothing more than a series of soulless business transactions...and often times those transactions can be questionable in terms of ethics (e.g. ripping people off) or annoying (begging people at conventions for deals). his content being the most popular in this space also encourages others to do the same, and for many people its soured the hobby of "collecting" on multiple fronts.
Most everyone i know who collects games also sells games. So for you to think that is bs. People that think oh resellers are bad. Its part of the game. Most of those guys collecting games can tell you story's about them picking up gems for really cheap. Everyone does it. Caleb works really hard at what he does and has a bussiness doing this. So of course he's trying to buy and make something. The people calling out resellers are morons. Its part of the game. Caleb is prolly disliked buy people because he's not really cool. But you can't hate on the guy cause that. Most people who own games have sold something there doubles games they don't want. Most of the game collectors have also found games at garage sales for dirt cheap. Or when they buy games they are trying to get em as cheap as possible.
@@getembob7107 with all the wonderful art, stories, music, and memories that envelop a hobby like gaming, truly the peak of the hobby and YT content and interaction with the medium is buying wii sports for the thousandth time to sell at an inflated price on ebay.
I do agree with Phoenix Resale. He's a businessman who flips games, he doesn't need to prove to anyone that he is a gamer or has a love for video games. Why does that even matter? Do all people who drive ice cream trucks love ice cream? haha. People are strange, the guy is doing his thing to take care of himself and his family that is what matters the most!
so many haters in this world. I dont watch Phoneix resale channel but I agree with him its best to ignore the haters..your happiness in this world is the most important thing. You only live once...dont let others bring you down...much love
Caleb is super right, not to hate on Kody with a k but look at him. He is the definition of an underdog. He is flipping crazy returns and is getting so much love, in a couple years, people are going to hate him due to the fact that he is ripping ppl off, he’s personality is what saving him. Again, I’m not hating because I do bait trades too but just goes to show how people are so biased
Also, I think a lot of the hate is pure jealousy sometimes. People wish they could get half the games he finds and when he makes a bunch of money, they get jealous of that as well.
From my perspective most viewers got into this side of TH-cam thanks to the collector boom. Seeing those channels morph into reselling doesn't sit well. Then there complaints that Phoenix charges even more than other resellers, which really doesnt help his reputation. But that's just a part of living in a free market economy.
Pats scumbag reseller alert on flea market madness started an entire community of people that have all found Caleb as public enemy #1 all these years later lol
I think the majority of hate for resellers comes from collectors, because everyone hates the middleman. Collectors want to pay the prices that are as low as possible to keep the item for themselves. Resellers want to pay the lowest price possible to make as much as possible when it's resold. The reason I don't mind a reseller is because I'm not going to go out to the yard sales and the swap meets and thrift stores looking for this stuff. So in my opinion the money they make off the item is justified for the time it takes to go search for all this stuff.
The main reason he gets hate is because he didn't get into it for the love of retro gaming. He is seen as an "outsider" to a lot of people, thats why he gets more hate than someone like Retro Rick. Chase After The Right Price gets a lot of hate too but not as much as Caleb either because he also genuinely collects retro games and is knowledgeable on them. We all have to admit, Caleb is the least knowledgeable on retro games or games in general when it comes to the game itself, not the value.
I'm a big fan of all of you and in my opinion there is nothing wrong about flipping video game stuff, and if you can make money doing what you love then congrats to you.
I’ve been a gamer forever, Collector and reseller for the past 8 years now. People just like to hate for the sake of hating. Keep on flipping!!! Got you back Caleb, here come the hater hanks 😂😂
No one has problems with video game stores, just individuals that sell online at smaller margins. They are going after the wrong guys if they want to be mad. (There's nothing wrong with either)
I think it’s just that people hate the way the prices of games and will dislike resellers because they are selling them at theses prices (not saying that they’re the sole reason for the prices because it takes two to tango) but they see a guy reselling games, a guy really open and honest about it. They’re naturally gonna go to his comments and complain. Again, I blame both buyer and seller for ridiculous prices
I am a gamer and a TCG collector.. you can definitely be, at the same time. A collector and a reseller. And also, Chris. thought that was a real interesting comparisons you made. With an older show like American pickers (Pawn Stars too). Anytime I was with my aunt and younger cousin. And we drive by a an old barn (here in the Midwest). My cousin would always ask my auntie if we could pull over and do some pickin’ 🤣😂 I also give a lot of credit to the store Round Two and their movement, that they created with vintage, during my teen years. Vintage will never be “old”!
There are segments of people that hate things, just because a majority loves it. Take Ocarina of Time for example. 95% love it. 5% hate it beyond comprehension
I'm more interested to see what Caleb's plans are for the future. As we age the hustle become a lot harder. What if he and his wife to decide to have kids. Will he continue with his resale business. I have a fulltime job as an accountant and have a 2 year old daughter with the side hustle of selling video games and even to me that is a huge challenge to devote all that energy without taking time away from my daughter and wife.
I think we should just get real here and say that resellers are a necessary evil. We wouldn’t have these games available to buy if it weren’t for them. However, they suck when it comes to pricing.
I feel like the hate is just a meme. “Every one hates Caleb!” is itself a meme that Riff and Rick do. So I don’t think it’s real hate, it’s just part of the meme and people joining in to the meme created mainly by Riff and Rick.
Retro Rick taught me about reselling BUT Caleb showed me how to do it, and showed the actual work it takes after the scores.
If The Squad has taught me anything it’s that we pick people up not bring them down .
I feel it’s important to analyze that most collectors get their pick ups from a reseller of some sort, almost all the time.
It’s not almost its every single time lol
I found Caleb’s channel before anyone else and he worked hard to get where he is at. He’s very honest and real and as long as he’s happy that’s all that matters
Exactly
No one should be upset over a re-seller, bro is just trying to make some money to take care of himself and his family. Also, no one is forced to buy anything from him. I'm a re-seller too, so I get it.
Celebrity Deathmatch 2024:
Gabbo vs Curtis
Riff vs Chris
Phoenix vs Hater Hank
Special guest referee Mort
I emulated the Celebrity Deathmatch game recently, and damn I miss that shit during Super Bowl halftime! Haha I vividly remember Pamela Andeson being in one haha
The GameCube gambit - specifically the Go Go Hypergrind episode - is how I found your guy's content in the first place. From Phoenix Resale to Pixel Game Squad to Pixel Plus and so forth, it's been a really fun journey following your guy's adventures.
where there is smoke there is fire ...remember you guys said Jirad was an outstanding fella too
I think this more so speaks to the “community”. They’re the smoke. I’ve seen these guys bitch about everything.
This is one of my favorite Pixel Plus episodes… Caleb was the gateway channel to most of the collecting channels I watch now, I just miss his collecting videos, but the channel is still good
When explained this way it makes more sense. Lowkey the thing I hate about my personal collection is my inability to get rid of games I know I won’t play. A small voice in my head thinks. “Hey…. You might want to play that game 20 years from now.” I respect the ability to reduce.
Yall need to get a table. We don’t want to stare at Caleb’s legs for 30 mins
😂😂😂
@pluspixel man what you mean Ricky got some sexy skin 😍
The only negative is that Riff is wearing pants
In retrospect, that was a lot of leg
don't. forget the camel toe
Thank you guys. I have been a collector for years and dont even trade stuff, but I love watching Caleb. He is just a guy running a business and it cracks me up he gets so much hate. Seems like a genuine honest guy willing to teach his journey. He is easily one of my favorite youtubers and will never hate on someone making a living in a hobby I love.
I'm a re-seller too. I re-sell electronics, mostly iPads, Tablets, BOSE Stereos, things like that and IDK why anyone would want to hate on someone just trying to hustle and make some money. Trust me, it's not as easy as it seems either it can be very mentally exhausting dealing with customers and returns and all that. Also, I don't think it's anyone's business if Caleb is a gamer or if he has a love for video games. Why does that even matter? It doesn't matter at all!
@@LeadMe2TheBliss Right and if anyone thinks about it really how would you buy anything retro game related or otherwise if not technically through someone reselling it. Just crazy people get butt hurt like this one guy kept them from getting a deal
I wouldn’t have found reselling, or started my (very tiny) TH-cam channel if it wasn’t for Caleb. I would love to be able to have done what he has done. I just don’t find games for as good of deals or as consistently as he does. So now I just sell everything. But he got me started.
I’ll never be able to make the connection of why people hate resellers. I think everyone should do it. Even as a side hustle. Why not have more money in your pocket?
I have mad respect for all of you guys, including Caleb. I basically found each channel through the other, pretty much found you guys and then through you guys that's where I found not only retro Rick but gabbo and Caleb and mort and gone though old seasons of the game chasers and went back to watching storage wars after stopping a number of years ago just to find the episodes with Dusty. All of you guys, Riff & Ricky especially, Make all this feel more than just a community, like we're all really good friends by extension. I learned a lot about what to look for at flea markets and swap meets more carefully All thanks to Riff,
Never understood why Caleb gets so much hate. He freely gives away some of the best information and hidden gems in the reseller space. He is the one who got me into these kind of videos in the first place. I found out about riff and retro rick from seeing them in Calebs channel. Your honesty is truly something rare in the TH-cam space and i greatly appreciate it. Real recognize real hommie. ❤💪
same here. found Pixel Game Squad and Retro Rick because of Caleb. I really enjoy his business discussions too. He seems like an awesome dude.
As a re seller, game collector, and a business owner. I enjoy phoenix resale channel and I watch every video. He has taught me alot.
When explained this way it makes more sense. Lowkey the thing I hate about my personal collection is my inability to get rid of games I know I won’t play. A small voice in my head thinks. “Hey…. You might want to play that game 20 years from now.” I respect the ability to cull.
Caleb, I have been following you since the early Corona period. I am not sure how many years it has been. I really enjoy you being honest, because of you, I got introduced to Retro Rick and Pixel Game Squad through Riff. I live vicariously through your successes. Good for you all!
It's amazing you still remember those random letters from my old channel name lol.
2:38 “I’m glad I have you fooled” 😂
Caleb is a really nice and humble person. He has helped me a lot by coming to my store and showing support and even on my channel.
I personally have always enjoyed and appreciated what Phoenix has put out. It is a very different take but I find it awesome to get a little view from the other side. I'm not a re-seller or big collector but I do enjoy the special little differences that these TH-cam channels bring from Pixel Game Squad to Retro to Phoenix. Appreciate everything shared.
caleb's trasparency the key to his success. he was honest from the start and he just made a business out of his hobby/passion for collecting games. he was not like other game collecting channel in youtube, he was honest about everything because reselling was the core of his channel in order to fund his collecting but now the collecting side of the channel has been lost because his focus is now the business side instead of the hobby side of it. kudos to you caleb for being transparent!
Forget Phoenix supporting the podcast he’s supporting riff himself 💀
Top 2 reasons people hate Caleb:
1. His Amazon store has worse prices than DKOldies and he acts like a smug business know it all when his whole business model is ripping off old women who buy games on Amazon
2. GameCube Gambit
And these things deserve “hate”? To address these points: 1-how does that affect those that don’t pay? They don’t have to buy. AND 2 - guy sold part of his collection. Emphasis on HIS. Those that are against it simply need to grow up. It’s annoying when there’s a hierarchy amongst nerds.
Caleb seems like a know it all 😂😂😂
I met this scumbag at the so cal game expo and asked him to sign my hat. He laughed at me and then I cried 😭😭😭 lol I'm kidding. Caleb was super nice, we took a pic together and he signed my hat. Great guy!!
You had a game reseller sign your hat? Okay bud 😂
Ive always 100% respected caleb, completely honest about everything. People forget people can change their mind about what they want to collect
hate comes from the bottom. only angry frustrated people need to write stupid comments. you could get 99 positive comments and 1 negative, but that negative one will stick in our minds because we're confused as to why someone would dislike us (as people). Chris, read this comment, we love you! LOL. the Pixel Family is full of good hearted people.
much love all
People forget Caleb is such a giving person too and has given away countless items to people to support them retrowolf being one! Dw Caleb we love you
I don't watch much of Caleb's content but I always stop by for a Pixel Plus video. lol
I actually found riff from the editing of Calebs videos and fell in love with the camaraderie of the pixel game squad and here I am
I wish I could have talk to Caleb about the Gamecube gambit as a turning point in his channel. There is things he doesn't seem to realize. I saw him at Midwest gaming classic but just meeting someone for the first time and being like 'hey let me criticize you' isn't really a nice thing to do. But to start with people were living vicariously through him. We can't just go out and buy every gamecube game we want, we were watching Caleb do it and empathizing those feelings ourselves. So when he sells his collection it goes against what a large majority of people would do and we feel 'betrayed' or at least it breaks that immersion that brought us to the channel in the first place. For most people who collect games, when you collect it you want it forever, you don't sell it without a very good reason or a very long thought process. And I could go on but it at least starts there.
That is very strange. To get attached so some one else’s collection. This is TH-cam it’s all entertainment these creators are trying to keep you entertained. I don’t mean to sound like an asshole but if folks really think the way you do, they seriously need to take a step back and re evaluate how much all this retro video game stuff means to you.
Buying every game for a console makes sense for a content-making perspective. Beyond that, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
@@gilbertoarellano8525it just shows that he buys as low as possible to not collect but to resell. Most of us do the same thing but we intend on keeping it. Not reselling it. If Caleb ever acts like he wants something we know it’s not for HIM it’s for profit and that is the opposite of a ton of his viewers
Gabbo vs Caleb hate argument is easy. Gabbo doesn’t have a app that he charges for that funnels games to him to resell for top dollar. He also asks for discounts for EVERYTHING when the goal is never to keep it. I bet Gabbo didn’t charge Riff a premium for the nes games he bought from him 😂 Gabbo personality is also much more likeable then Caleb
@@pfromdapab Again these TH-camrs are entertainers they are here so you can watch their content and if you like it hopefully stick around. Why would what anyone does with their collection especially someone who profits off creating content matter to me? I’m a collector myself I’ve sold certain items whenever I needed some quick cash does that not make me a real collector?
Chris is the best
I would say regarding Phoenix Resale it’s hard for a collector to understand “collecting” let’s use the game cube gambit for instance to turn around and sale it makes the “love/nostalgia” for the journey seem disingenuous because as collectors it’s so hard for us to let go of those games we love. This is why I could never get into his channel. It’s just because any journey Caleb would take me on, I know is going to end in him just selling it making it seem like he doesn’t really care about it at
all. I understand he is a seller and maybe he doesn’t need to acquire games and keep them forever to enjoy them but that’s hard for collectors to understand. I hope this makes since.
Maybe we need an episode that covers Cost Accounting where they discuss break even, cost of goods sold, inventory, overhead, employee costs, and tax liabilities.
Opening your life onto TH-cam is like playing with a dagger.......it cuts both way.
Pixel Plus 😢 guys, boys…Phoenix Resale is genuine!!! Genuinely ruining mom and pop shops all over! Glad YOU guys are getting paid and having a blast! 1UP app, Goodiez, Mercari, WhatNot, KILLING the scene!!! Your legacy will be forever remembered as the DUDES that decided it was all about THEM not the community. Narcissists! Oh yeah, PART 2 video now in production talking about ALL OF YOU!!! Time to open the dam and hear from REAL gamers/collectors!
I love Xbox 360 games n if there weren't stores and resellers selling them how could I buy them???
People on the internet would have you believe that if you didn't drive around to local garage sales and swap meets, you are a scumbag who is supporting the death of retro gaming.
Caleb thank you for your channel I have loved watching you grow as a seller and influencer if they hating its just jealousy
I started reselling yard sale finds to be able to collect the video games I had when I was a kid
Man, that really sucks to see how much hate Phoenix Resale gets. I genuinely enjoy his content, and I have a similar sense of humor. He will always have my sub.
Caleb is genuine. That's why i like him
Right? I thought it was cool when he gave his copy of Pokemon I think it was to Retro Wolf. Thought that was super cool.
I am 100% guilty of coming in to your videos originally with a negative view on reselling but it didn’t take long for me to realize you are a genuine person just making good content and a living. The game collecting community that thrives here on TH-cam and at conventions has also become something special itself.
Really good stuff. Caleb has it right with the idea of being both a collector AND a reseller, and it’s totally his choice to share his collecting side or not, and to have og Lance validating all that. Dude! I watched EVERY episode of gaming in the 80s or whatever it was called! Such a TH-cam CLASSIC! 💪👍👊😁
Caleb’s transparency is part of the virtue: Justice. It is a rare trait, one of good character that represents honesty. We should be grateful of him, not resentful.
I’ve watched a lot of Caleb’s videos and I think he gets the hate because it’s “trending” to hate on resellers in the retro community even though 90% of the community does it. He’s open and honest about it though, which goes against the “cool guy collector that has never EVER resold” mentality
i really love you all! calebs a great a good and honest guy! and so is everyone at pixel plus, i really like everyone being honest! and im glad im getting to know you guys, and the retro gaming resseller content youtubers!
What I appreciate is you all guys stick together and support each other which is really missing from the community as far as the TH-camr’s go. The hate for you all guys is weird. People overlook that as Hobby’s grow (video game collecting) or Pokemon card collecting the market sky rockets. Demand causes spikes in prices. And not resellers necessarily like guys like Heckin Steve like to say. Keep up the good content Fellas 🙌🏻
Love Caleb and his content. I collect and feel so great when I get a grail, but I do resell because I feel instead of something collecting dust on my shelf, I want to get it on to the next person who is going to enjoy it. Reselling actually drops the price of games because the more on the market the less they are worth. Personally without resellers some of these grails would be 3x the price.
Ive been reselling for more than 30 years. Before video games and ebay you could go to garage sales and find "antiques" and sell those to specialty shops and nobody cared.
I think a lot of the hate with video games comes with a lot of entitlement game collectors have. Oh that game was $5 a few years ago and now it's well over $50 thanks to resellers. There's usually a lot of factors that go into why one item has intrinsic value and what makes that value rise, and sometimes people just need to point a finger and blame somebody.
I do know that some haters out there worked at places like GameStop. Lol.
The funny thing that nobody really gets is it’s not really the resellers that have jacked up the prices, it’s the people that have money now that missed out on things when they were kids. And it’s all about the supply and demand, they want those old games and bid higher and higher on eBay making the value go up. That’s capitalism, welcome to America lol And on top of that the pandemic made things explode because anyone that ever had any interest in gaming bought those things because a lot of them had nothing else to do so they bought that stuff. Personally I have multiple hobbies that can be expensive and I don’t make a ton of money so I look for anything that I can to make money on and then find the stuff I want. And like Retro Rick and other TH-camrs say you need to ask at garage sales when you want to get video games or whatever else, it works for sure, a few weeks ago my town had city wide garage sales and I scored at a few sales, the biggest lot wasn’t even out, I got it because I asked, and I sold about half of it a couple weeks later for 10x what I paid, which is helping me pay part of my credit card so that’s helping me a ton too. There’s nothing wrong with reselling whether it’s your job or side hustle and in my opinion the people that cry about it the most are simply just jealous, and some are even sitting in their parents basement and don’t have a job…lol
Perfectly said👍
@@Guns7469 thanks!
@@mikes062?
I got into reselling about a year BEFORE I discovered retro Rick and Phoenix resale and the whole TH-cam reseller scene. I have no problem with reselling in general (though of course I find it tiresome that it’s harder to find deals for me personally) but the TH-cam scene has definitely contributed to rising prices. I had an obscure PS4 game on auction on eBay (thought it was on “Buy it Now”) and it didn’t move for weeks and then Metal Jesus Rocks did a video on it as a hidden gem and it sold that same week for FOUR TIMES what I thought was the buy it now price.
There is scumbag resellers, scumbag hoarders, scammers and even scumbag buyers. Im a buyer, seller and most of all a collector. I try to be Nice and fair and make good deals
Strictly my opinion, negative people are the "loudest". I'm positive there are more "silent" people that enjoy Caleb's channels and content than there are people that are negative towards his channels. Keep moving forward Caleb, all the best.
Congrats to all you guys! You're taking care of your responsibilities and having fun! God bless!!
Im not a gamer or reseller i just enjoy watching all you guys and retro rick. I have a shelf full of games going back to nes "atari is in a tote." Im not sure why it started but it started with Caleb's channel. My young daughter loves the retro stuff and im so happy she gets to play the stuff i grew up with.
also as a creator with a disability, ive gotten so much hate over the years and im still a small youtuber, i will say it is really hard to handle it some times, but you guys riff and caleb especially, inpire me, to ignore the hate, or at the very least handle it better, so thank you!
Caleb has a disability too, he’s an asshole
I love Caleb and really look forward to his videos. That said I can understand the hate he gets being a reseller. Despite us all being a reseller in one way or another.
People just want to hate. People sometimes get upset if someone finds a game for a certain price and sells it at value. They want the price you paid. But you did the work. You hunted. I never understood the hate for Caleb because he literally came into the community reselling. People shouldn’t count peoples pockets or be so concerned with other’s business. But what I realized with the gaming community and TH-cam, people really become invested so there is a thin line. People also don’t really actually know people, their character, or their personality. What I realized just seeing Caleb and being around him frequently especially at SoCal is Caleb is pretty quiet. People often judge character poorly and sometimes things get misinterpreted. They think because he doesn’t socialize as much that he’s a bad person but that’s not true. He’s different. What I gather is he stays to himself and talk to who he wants. Nothing wrong with it. Another great episode fellas! Salute to everyone there. All great guys that I can vouch for
What's funny is that I always thought that Riff was always just joking about so many people hating on Caleb...
I have been watching him since like 20-30k subs and his channel just exploded... so I figured he was just super liked because of how quick he blew up.
Kinda crazy that people take content like this seriously enough to put the energy putting someone down over it.
Gaming is fun...
I think that is forgotten by way too many
Caleb is a bean counter. Right or wrong, people hate bean counters and as analytics continue to have a greater impact on our lives the more intense the feelings towards such things will escalate. Sports are a good microcosm of that. Many fans, athletes, and media members hate the prevalence of analytics because they see them as removing the human elements of the game.
9:30
silence followed by nodding heads!! i really liked this part. showed me everyone in the frame was actually listening to him and truly understood what was being told. Calebs detailed honesty for sure does breed hate from people, but those who are like minded and business savvy, can learn a WHOLE LOT from his pesale videos. from business models/strategies, tips on how to ship items safely.. and hes telling the whole world for free!! how can you dislike this man for real. The Phoenix will rise from the ashes once again!
Right or wrong, resellers are essentially making money at the expense of somebody else. Essentially the same reason people just destroy game stop for the amount they pay people for their games. Caleb is just essentially a one-man mobile game stop. The only part I dislike is the exchange between resellers at conventions and such that inflates the prices of games and collectibles. It prices out people from purchasing items they genuinely want. Love the pod!!
Perfectly said. It really is that simple. It's not as bad when a collector sells games because it's occasional and they don't make their living from it (and therefore it doesn't affect market price as much). People dislike middlemen in any industry because the mindset is that they just increase prices to make a profit without adding any value.
I've been collecting since around 2012, way before I knew it had a huge community on TH-cam, didn't discover it until the pandemic.
The issue folks have with resellers and/or flippers is because at least some tangible portion of the time, they can be a net negative and affect prices going up even more than normal. At this point, it feels like a deal is unattainable unless I'm buying a LOT of games or someone's collection all at once, but that's not a reality for most and honestly it's nothing that I would do.... Resellers CAN do that because for them they're conducting business.
I don't like the hate that Phoenix Resale gets, but I believe reselling gets conflated with scalpers, who DO suck. I will say, the prices on everything has gotten ridiculous, the offering of pennies so that you can make profit and the over reliance of Price Charting on EVERY DEAL and what you price stuff at -- it's exhausting. Best of luck to him and others because I enjoy their content generally....but I understand both sides.
im a coin collector but i dont collect ALL coins and i am also a fulltime reseller for over 20 years.
caleb i truly enjoyed the collecting series, im a hunter of all good finds, whether that be grails, error coins, best flip, metal detecting finds, gemstones, shells, foraging, you name it....the hunt is the fun and reselling is the payoff and outcome of it all most the time. we're resellers and who cares what the haters say!💯😘
What people forget everytime they rumble against reseller is that EVERYONE is a reseller at some point. You buy stuff and you Sell stuff.
Pheonix resale definetly wacks it to Disney movies
It's Ito Bandito!!! Great to see you here :)
Hater hanks, coming out in full force!!!
Love the content gents! Happy fathers day 😊
Haven't seen a single one in like 100 comments.
Some of my favorite early collecting vids were of Pat the NES Punk at swap meets, and maybe that’s where you got the “scumbag” name from, but anyone who watched those and then watched Caleb basically do the thing Pat hated by getting to events early and making huge bulk deals automatically put a face to the hate.
I used to watch Caleb when he was Sub 70K and thoroughly enjoyed his videos. But little by little I just didn't enjoy his behind the scenes reselling and buying practices. I get it he's a reseller he needs to pay his bills. But after personally selling off my 90 percent of my collection I genuinely felt like I was getting ripped off By Caleb himself 😂😂😂 But let's be Honest the running Joke of Pixel game squad and Other constantly calling him A scumbag reseller really isn't helping him either.
Interesting you bring up the joke about Caleb being a “scumbag” or the money meme contributing to the perception and the hate. I think Riff may want to dial that back if he wants to help him out a little.
So I liked Caleb early on and still like his stuff but I do find that he seems to be much more interested in the money and the flip than the collection. We almost never see him play or talk about his new favorite game or his private pick ups for his own collection. I think if he let himself be known more as a gamer/collector it would help.
I need to learn the Reselling aspect. I buy and collect/ Hoard. Youre all amazing i what you do. Keeping up on collecting reselling and TH-camr requires dedication. I made an attempt with the channel I have. I have more videos than subscribers. I have been watching Many of the people who come on here and will remain a fan for life. Keep doing what you do and Enjoy.
Caleb and riff back and forth is very amusing
Yall are my favorite I swear. Good episode boys.
its really not that hard to understand. people dont hate caleb because theyre jealous, or because hes successful, or any of the reasons cited in this video. simply put, caleb takes something which incredibly special to people, gaming, and through his content reduces it to nothing more than a series of soulless business transactions...and often times those transactions can be questionable in terms of ethics (e.g. ripping people off) or annoying (begging people at conventions for deals). his content being the most popular in this space also encourages others to do the same, and for many people its soured the hobby of "collecting" on multiple fronts.
Yes, what a terrible thing it is to start a business, work hard, and make money. Truly a terrible person Caleb is.
Most everyone i know who collects games also sells games. So for you to think that is bs. People that think oh resellers are bad. Its part of the game. Most of those guys collecting games can tell you story's about them picking up gems for really cheap. Everyone does it. Caleb works really hard at what he does and has a bussiness doing this. So of course he's trying to buy and make something. The people calling out resellers are morons. Its part of the game. Caleb is prolly disliked buy people because he's not really cool. But you can't hate on the guy cause that. Most people who own games have sold something there doubles games they don't want. Most of the game collectors have also found games at garage sales for dirt cheap. Or when they buy games they are trying to get em as cheap as possible.
@@getembob7107 with all the wonderful art, stories, music, and memories that envelop a hobby like gaming, truly the peak of the hobby and YT content and interaction with the medium is buying wii sports for the thousandth time to sell at an inflated price on ebay.
And his lack of knowledge on the items he's selling too, it's obvious he isn't doing it for the love and passion of gaming, but just to make money
As a reseller and a collector Caleb consistently pays way more than I ever would. His profit margins are less than 50 percent. That’s insane.
I do agree with Phoenix Resale. He's a businessman who flips games, he doesn't need to prove to anyone that he is a gamer or has a love for video games. Why does that even matter? Do all people who drive ice cream trucks love ice cream? haha. People are strange, the guy is doing his thing to take care of himself and his family that is what matters the most!
so many haters in this world. I dont watch Phoneix resale channel but I agree with him its best to ignore the haters..your happiness in this world is the most important thing. You only live once...dont let others bring you down...much love
Caleb is super right, not to hate on Kody with a k but look at him. He is the definition of an underdog. He is flipping crazy returns and is getting so much love, in a couple years, people are going to hate him due to the fact that he is ripping ppl off, he’s personality is what saving him. Again, I’m not hating because I do bait trades too but just goes to show how people are so biased
Also, I think a lot of the hate is pure jealousy sometimes. People wish they could get half the games he finds and when he makes a bunch of money, they get jealous of that as well.
Caleb hit the nail on the head.. People that supported me that hate resellers are slowlly turning against me.. hes not joking
I had no idea Caleb was a gamer until this podcast. I thought he was solely a reseller.
Thats what the echo chambers cause. Mis-information.
From my perspective most viewers got into this side of TH-cam thanks to the collector boom. Seeing those channels morph into reselling doesn't sit well. Then there complaints that Phoenix charges even more than other resellers, which really doesnt help his reputation. But that's just a part of living in a free market economy.
Pats scumbag reseller alert on flea market madness started an entire community of people that have all found Caleb as public enemy #1 all these years later lol
I think the majority of hate for resellers comes from collectors, because everyone hates the middleman. Collectors want to pay the prices that are as low as possible to keep the item for themselves. Resellers want to pay the lowest price possible to make as much as possible when it's resold. The reason I don't mind a reseller is because I'm not going to go out to the yard sales and the swap meets and thrift stores looking for this stuff. So in my opinion the money they make off the item is justified for the time it takes to go search for all this stuff.
The main reason he gets hate is because he didn't get into it for the love of retro gaming. He is seen as an "outsider" to a lot of people, thats why he gets more hate than someone like Retro Rick. Chase After The Right Price gets a lot of hate too but not as much as Caleb either because he also genuinely collects retro games and is knowledgeable on them. We all have to admit, Caleb is the least knowledgeable on retro games or games in general when it comes to the game itself, not the value.
Man i have waited a long time for caleb to come on here. Love ya bro Whoo!!!!
Caleb is the GOAT …many people hate because they can’t flip like him
PHX Resell is hella chill 😎 👍
I'm a big fan of all of you and in my opinion there is nothing wrong about flipping video game stuff, and if you can make money doing what you love then congrats to you.
I’ve been a gamer forever, Collector and reseller for the past 8 years now. People just like to hate for the sake of hating. Keep on flipping!!!
Got you back Caleb, here come the hater hanks 😂😂
No one has problems with video game stores, just individuals that sell online at smaller margins. They are going after the wrong guys if they want to be mad. (There's nothing wrong with either)
honesty and truth is the best. people just don't like it. they are afraid of it.
I think it’s just that people hate the way the prices of games and will dislike resellers because they are selling them at theses prices (not saying that they’re the sole reason for the prices because it takes two to tango) but they see a guy reselling games, a guy really open and honest about it. They’re naturally gonna go to his comments and complain. Again, I blame both buyer and seller for ridiculous prices
Comments shouldn't sway any of u, U guys are pioneers
I am a gamer and a TCG collector.. you can definitely be, at the same time. A collector and a reseller. And also, Chris. thought that was a real interesting comparisons you made. With an older show like American pickers (Pawn Stars too). Anytime I was with my aunt and younger cousin. And we drive by a an old barn (here in the Midwest). My cousin would always ask my auntie if we could pull over and do some pickin’ 🤣😂 I also give a lot of credit to the store Round Two and their movement, that they created with vintage, during my teen years. Vintage will never be “old”!
There are segments of people that hate things, just because a majority loves it. Take Ocarina of Time for example. 95% love it. 5% hate it beyond comprehension
So how do u sell a clay fighter sculpture cut manual only
Who can authenticate that’s not heritage or idk I’m serious I bought it in box asa kid
I mean, there's not really authentication on that kind of thing. I can't imagine there's too many fakes out there.
I'm more interested to see what Caleb's plans are for the future. As we age the hustle become a lot harder. What if he and his wife to decide to have kids. Will he continue with his resale business. I have a fulltime job as an accountant and have a 2 year old daughter with the side hustle of selling video games and even to me that is a huge challenge to devote all that energy without taking time away from my daughter and wife.
I think we should just get real here and say that resellers are a necessary evil. We wouldn’t have these games available to buy if it weren’t for them. However, they suck when it comes to pricing.
I feel like the hate is just a meme. “Every one hates Caleb!” is itself a meme that Riff and Rick do.
So I don’t think it’s real hate, it’s just part of the meme and people joining in to the meme created mainly by Riff and Rick.