Yes sir...It happens very frequently...Its like what if I really like my intrusive thoughts?,What if my intrusive thoughts are my fault?..sometimes sir some bad intrusive thoughts comes and I dont know why I start laughing then I also feel guilty for laughing😔
@@crazy_physics7524 Our brain loves "what ifs" because we tend to not find the answer and so it wants to keep swirling around. I hope you can find feel better my friend.
Strangely enough none of my "what ifs" have never happened. But still my brain goes "what if" everytime I'm faced with a certain unknown situation and overthink it until my head is about to burst.
Thank you for this video. How do you accept uncertainty about the worst or health worry if the fear is about your value family,kids that you feel you always need to protect from something bad?
The best part "The main purpose of saying may be maybe not is not to force ur brain to believe in this phrase But atleast send a signal to your brain that it doesnt has much value as your brain is telling" Its not a life and death issue Always give your brain margin to accept any thought after an OCD thought. You can still function properly without finding and uneqiivocal answer to it. You are the boss not your thoughts.
@@ocdandanxiety yes, your video are very helpful against my OCD. The crux of what I read you are saying is accepting uncertainty, its a way of lowering the threat level that OCD build into your mind, thank you.
This video is super helpful as someone who is in a constant battle with ocd. Sometimes I go through denial of my ocd, especially when others say that I’m not going through ocd, which can make it hard to manage it. But your videos always help me to figure out ways to get through it. Keep up the wonderful work!
Love you guys for the work you do, but unless you have ocd I dont think anyone can truly understand the terror of it. Its not just uncertainty, its fully believing your fear. Its being convinced the sky is green because you SEE and feel evidence for it (due to the hyperfocus we get). Its a feeling of losing ground, having our perspective being flipped upside down. THATS why sitting with "uncertainty" feels unbearable. Not to be rude, i just think its important for people trying to help us to understand the lengths and widths of it all.
Hey, I totally get this! I know I didn't get into it too much here in the video, but I was actually diagnosed with postpartum OCD after I had my toddler about 3 years ago. It was ROUGH. So I definitely see how someone who has OCD could see this video and think we don't truly understand. And to be honest, I don't - because I had resources that others don't have, and I was able to get help rather quickly vs wait 10-17 years like most. So I really appreciate that insight but want you to know that I do know it's easier said than done. It can seem so simple in videos like this when actually there's so much more to it than that. I hate when videos say things like "just do this" or "just stop it", especially when the person doesn't have lived experience like you mention. You are a rockstar!
I felt the same way watching this video. I really appreciate the help and insight but all I could think about was “These are people with a healthy mental capacity healthily talking themselves through uncertainty.” When Nathan said “I’m willing to take that risk.” I really said to myself “If I said that, I wouldn’t believe it and I really could never say that and mean it.” That’s part of OCD is trying to control the risk.
I've been dealing with this since 8 years old, I remember first having thoughts about hurting myself which scared me; I still deal with so much OCD but you make it more manageable. Thanks :)
Saw this and thought it would help me with my current uncertainty around my heart and health symptoms. Ended up feeling worse because I have the same symptoms as Nate but I don't own a heart monitor watch. 😄 I also have seizures randomly but have been able to manage that. I shut down the video but was able to open it back up later. Glad I did! Really appreciate the story sharing and experience. Can't wait to get to the same space of "maybe, maybe not " 🤞
one time i watched a kid have a seizure, he had epilepsy, when i was younger and it made me have obsessive thoughts for years and years that the same would happen to me, even today anything that’s out of my control i have so much anxiety around. i usually avoid talk of health scares that could happen to anyone but i sat thru this and it really helped! thank u :)
Making clients draw 2 columns, one negative what if and another for positive what if..for every negative what if (what if something bad happens) you come up with what if something good happens..making them enlist the probabilities (worst case- best case scenarios) help them deal with their debilitating anticipatory anxiety of something bad transpiring!
Honestly, this video is terrifying. Does no one else find all of these details triggering!? I'm just sitting here thinking... so sit with the anxiety and ignore a racing heart... but then it turns out to be a real health problem... soooo your anxiety was verified?? Yikes. I find most of the videos on this channel to be extremely helpful, but hearing two healthy people, who aren't old and who exercise regularly, describe random major negative health occurrences is nightmare fuel. Nice to know that people who once had anxiety can live their lives regardless. I'm going to go try not to think about a-fib and seizures now.
Such helpful content. So much of the advice out there puts such an emphasis on how people with ocd tend to make something out of nothing. How we'll fear every sore muscle or sneeze is a symptom of some terminal illness. But what about the times our anxiety does come from a realistic concern? I had a lump show up on my arm that matched all the initial criteria to be an early indicator for cancer, and i have an ultrasound scheduled within the next month. It might be cancer, it might not. The thing is, this is a scenario where that "might be" is actually a realistic and legitimate concern, and so much of that standard advice on OCD doesnt apply here. Thank you for taking into account how real issues can exacerbate OCD symptoms, it's extraordinarily helpful.
It’s awesome!! Really really gave me as a serious ocd person a lot of encouragement and hopes ❤ Nate, u r a genuine and motivating and effective coach to help all of us who suffer from ocd and anxiety disorder problems 😊 thank you so much
Hi guys, I found this really useful, thanks so much! I was wondering if you could tell me how to do an exposure for real event OCD. I have been having the same intrusive thought for over a year now and I know logically I shouldn't have to worry about it but it is just stuck in a loop and because it is unpleasant it raises my anxiety. I then try and get into a debate with the OCD which I realise is a compulsion and leads no where. I am able to avoid the compulsions mostly but after some time I get frustrated that the same thought is happening and my anxiety rises. Thanks again :)
Here's the extent of my anxiety and self-doubt: I am cat-sitting for my cousin, and even though I video taped myself leaving the house (and turning the camera to make sure the cat is out and not stuck in a room), I still come up with reasons to doubt it. Even though I video taped myself walking to the front door and showed that the cat was walking freely around the house, the fact that I didn't video tape myself walking to my car and driving away makes me not trust myself, and it is truly ridiculous! So now I am at my house, sitting through the discomfort as I wonder about it. I was late for work today by the way, because I was stuck checking everything at home and inspecting the entire floor before leaving the house. Yet, when I went to see my cousin's cat, I noticed that she isn't paranoid about leaving things out like scissors, tape, glass jars on the counter, and bags of water softener; so why am I so paranoid about MY cat when I leave the house, and I put away all of those things but still worry about my cat 😶.
I've had a lot of seizures in the past and for past 20 years i become frozen with panic/fear in "normal" situations. Never knew if i had ocd or not. Listening to Jenna is making me cry.
I did something bad in past and i am so scared because some peoples know about that and im scared they gonna expose me whenever they can and i already apogilize the person who i hurt yet still im scared other gonna expose me or she gonna change her mind and tell everyone about it and im terrified and i was delaying the stuffs i always wanna do because i know if they tell others what happened my life can be over until i find this channel i dont know if i have ocd but all stuffs here help me a lot and when i can get profesinal help im totally gonna check that but until then these videos helping me a lot(sorry for bad grammer not my first language)
Can anyone help answer these 3 questions? 1. Do other people see both the imagery and the room/place they are in 2. Do other people feel like some images are closer than others? 3. I don’t take any drugs or have a diagnosis of anything other than OCD is anyone else the same
i am totally worried that when i go back to therapy after being at a mental hospital and being diagnosed with ocd and going back and having a therapist that doesn’t understand isent gonna work but i also know my mom can’t afford the nocd thing:(anyone eles??
Ive been watching a lot of your videos and this one was the worst one. Im so disappointed. I have a severe ocd surrounding seizures and I would have appreciated a trigger warning before the incredibly detailed story..
Hmmm, why the creepy background music as it adds to the triggering possibilities? Also, sounds to me as though Nathan had a reaction (just like my husband) to the covid vaccination.
What helps you sit with uncertainty? Have your "what ifs" ever happened? 😃
Yes sir...It happens very frequently...Its like what if I really like my intrusive thoughts?,What if my intrusive thoughts are my fault?..sometimes sir some bad intrusive thoughts comes and I dont know why I start laughing then I also feel guilty for laughing😔
@@crazy_physics7524 Our brain loves "what ifs" because we tend to not find the answer and so it wants to keep swirling around. I hope you can find feel better my friend.
OCD and Anxiety Nathan is there a way to reach you directly please?
Strangely enough none of my "what ifs" have never happened. But still my brain goes "what if" everytime I'm faced with a certain unknown situation and overthink it until my head is about to burst.
Thank you for this video. How do you accept uncertainty about the worst or health worry if the fear is about your value family,kids that you feel you always need to protect from something bad?
The best part
"The main purpose of saying may be maybe not is not to force ur brain to believe in this phrase
But atleast send a signal to your brain that it doesnt has much value as your brain is telling"
Its not a life and death issue
Always give your brain margin to accept any thought after an OCD thought.
You can still function properly without finding and uneqiivocal answer to it.
You are the boss not your thoughts.
I’ve been watching your channel for the past week. Your video gives me a peace of mind while I’m healing from my OCD ❤️👍🏼.
Thanks so much my friend! I'm so glad they've helped you! I wish you the best!
@@ocdandanxiety yes, your video are very helpful against my OCD. The crux of what I read you are saying is accepting uncertainty, its a way of lowering the threat level that OCD build into your mind, thank you.
Yesss! Same. :)
This video is super helpful as someone who is in a constant battle with ocd. Sometimes I go through denial of my ocd, especially when others say that I’m not going through ocd, which can make it hard to manage it. But your videos always help me to figure out ways to get through it. Keep up the wonderful work!
Thank for the support! It makes me happy to know the videos help. I appreciate you and hope you can feel some relief! 😃
Love you guys for the work you do, but unless you have ocd I dont think anyone can truly understand the terror of it. Its not just uncertainty, its fully believing your fear. Its being convinced the sky is green because you SEE and feel evidence for it (due to the hyperfocus we get). Its a feeling of losing ground, having our perspective being flipped upside down. THATS why sitting with "uncertainty" feels unbearable. Not to be rude, i just think its important for people trying to help us to understand the lengths and widths of it all.
Hey, I totally get this! I know I didn't get into it too much here in the video, but I was actually diagnosed with postpartum OCD after I had my toddler about 3 years ago. It was ROUGH. So I definitely see how someone who has OCD could see this video and think we don't truly understand. And to be honest, I don't - because I had resources that others don't have, and I was able to get help rather quickly vs wait 10-17 years like most. So I really appreciate that insight but want you to know that I do know it's easier said than done. It can seem so simple in videos like this when actually there's so much more to it than that. I hate when videos say things like "just do this" or "just stop it", especially when the person doesn't have lived experience like you mention. You are a rockstar!
Nathan has OCD
I felt the same way watching this video. I really appreciate the help and insight but all I could think about was “These are people with a healthy mental capacity healthily talking themselves through uncertainty.” When Nathan said “I’m willing to take that risk.” I really said to myself “If I said that, I wouldn’t believe it and I really could never say that and mean it.” That’s part of OCD is trying to control the risk.
I've been dealing with this since 8 years old, I remember first having thoughts about hurting myself which scared me; I still deal with so much OCD but you make it more manageable. Thanks :)
Thanks for the kind words! I hope you can feel some relief!
Saw this and thought it would help me with my current uncertainty around my heart and health symptoms. Ended up feeling worse because I have the same symptoms as Nate but I don't own a heart monitor watch. 😄 I also have seizures randomly but have been able to manage that. I shut down the video but was able to open it back up later. Glad I did! Really appreciate the story sharing and experience. Can't wait to get to the same space of "maybe, maybe not " 🤞
Thanks for sharing your experiences! I'm so glad you re-opened the video! You're awesome!
one time i watched a kid have a seizure, he had epilepsy, when i was younger and it made me have obsessive thoughts for years and years that the same would happen to me, even today anything that’s out of my control i have so much anxiety around. i usually avoid talk of health scares that could happen to anyone but i sat thru this and it really helped! thank u :)
That sounds really scary to go through. Thanks for sharing! I appreciate you and your support!
Making clients draw 2 columns, one negative what if and another for positive what if..for every negative what if (what if something bad happens) you come up with what if something good happens..making them enlist the probabilities (worst case- best case scenarios) help them deal with their debilitating anticipatory anxiety of something bad transpiring!
Honestly, this video is terrifying. Does no one else find all of these details triggering!? I'm just sitting here thinking... so sit with the anxiety and ignore a racing heart... but then it turns out to be a real health problem... soooo your anxiety was verified?? Yikes. I find most of the videos on this channel to be extremely helpful, but hearing two healthy people, who aren't old and who exercise regularly, describe random major negative health occurrences is nightmare fuel. Nice to know that people who once had anxiety can live their lives regardless. I'm going to go try not to think about a-fib and seizures now.
Jena, I agree with you, these detailed accounts are triggering plus the background music adds to tension.
yes. i really wished they would have put a trigger for those of us who weren't prepared for the content.
Such helpful content. So much of the advice out there puts such an emphasis on how people with ocd tend to make something out of nothing. How we'll fear every sore muscle or sneeze is a symptom of some terminal illness.
But what about the times our anxiety does come from a realistic concern? I had a lump show up on my arm that matched all the initial criteria to be an early indicator for cancer, and i have an ultrasound scheduled within the next month.
It might be cancer, it might not. The thing is, this is a scenario where that "might be" is actually a realistic and legitimate concern, and so much of that standard advice on OCD doesnt apply here.
Thank you for taking into account how real issues can exacerbate OCD symptoms, it's extraordinarily helpful.
This helped me sooo much 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 thank you soo much! You’re amazing
I am so glad this helped you! You are always welcome.
"What singal can I sent back to my brain to say, maybe this doesn't have as much value as you think it does"
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Thank you both for sharing! The uncertainty has always been a challenge for me, I forget we all go through it!
Very helpful. This helps me more than my therapist. You show better ways to cope.
It’s awesome!! Really really gave me as a serious ocd person a lot of encouragement and hopes ❤ Nate, u r a genuine and motivating and effective coach to help all of us who suffer from ocd and anxiety disorder problems 😊 thank you so much
thank you so much for your great help! can you make a video about dreams in ocd, obsessing about what dreams meant and fear of having bad dreams?
That's a good idea!
Hi guys, I found this really useful, thanks so much! I was wondering if you could tell me how to do an exposure for real event OCD. I have been having the same intrusive thought for over a year now and I know logically I shouldn't have to worry about it but it is just stuck in a loop and because it is unpleasant it raises my anxiety. I then try and get into a debate with the OCD which I realise is a compulsion and leads no where. I am able to avoid the compulsions mostly but after some time I get frustrated that the same thought is happening and my anxiety rises. Thanks again :)
This is AMAAAAAAZIIIIIINNNGGGG!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
Here's the extent of my anxiety and self-doubt: I am cat-sitting for my cousin, and even though I video taped myself leaving the house (and turning the camera to make sure the cat is out and not stuck in a room), I still come up with reasons to doubt it. Even though I video taped myself walking to the front door and showed that the cat was walking freely around the house, the fact that I didn't video tape myself walking to my car and driving away makes me not trust myself, and it is truly ridiculous! So now I am at my house, sitting through the discomfort as I wonder about it. I was late for work today by the way, because I was stuck checking everything at home and inspecting the entire floor before leaving the house. Yet, when I went to see my cousin's cat, I noticed that she isn't paranoid about leaving things out like scissors, tape, glass jars on the counter, and bags of water softener; so why am I so paranoid about MY cat when I leave the house, and I put away all of those things but still worry about my cat 😶.
Your videos have helped so many; including myself.
You guys are the best ❤
I've had a lot of seizures in the past and for past 20 years i become frozen with panic/fear in "normal" situations. Never knew if i had ocd or not. Listening to Jenna is making me cry.
I did something bad in past and i am so scared because some peoples know about that and im scared they gonna expose me whenever they can and i already apogilize the person who i hurt yet still im scared other gonna expose me or she gonna change her mind and tell everyone about it and im terrified and i was delaying the stuffs i always wanna do because i know if they tell others what happened my life can be over until i find this channel i dont know if i have ocd but all stuffs here help me a lot and when i can get profesinal help im totally gonna check that but until then these videos helping me a lot(sorry for bad grammer not my first language)
Do you have physical symptoms like headaches?
Thanks for sharing guys!
Thanks for always being a great support Chad! I hope you're doing well!
@@ocdandanxiety You are very welcome! I'm doing pretty well!
I have health anxiety and feel triggered (about halfway through). But I know I can’t run from my fears!
Can anyone help answer these 3 questions?
1. Do other people see both the imagery and the room/place they are in
2. Do other people feel like some images are closer than others?
3. I don’t take any drugs or have a diagnosis of anything other than OCD is anyone else the same
woah, big trigger for those with health related OCD..
Amazing!
God bless, amazing
I have weird old about trypophobia ever since a person showed me in uni, devastating
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your support! It really means a lot!
What is the point of recovering if you have to spend the rest of your life not recovered?
Does Jenna have a TH-cam channel there’s nothing in the description
please make a video on sensorimotor ocd treatment
i am totally worried that when i go back to therapy after being at a mental hospital and being diagnosed with ocd and going back and having a therapist that doesn’t understand isent gonna work but i also know my mom can’t afford the nocd thing:(anyone eles??
What about racing heart when trying to fall asleep
I have been having headaches for 4 years ..MRI is clear doctor says it's becouse of health anxiety ..is that possible ..? It doesn't sound right
Migraines very possible. Trust.
@@zen_mindset1 my upper spine and trapeziums hurt so badly
Sounds like you're looking for reassurance about your health worry, not about working on your anxiety itself, the bigger picture.
Couldn’t sit through your scares lol sorry
Ive been watching a lot of your videos and this one was the worst one. Im so disappointed. I have a severe ocd surrounding seizures and I would have appreciated a trigger warning before the incredibly detailed story..
Hmmm, why the creepy background music as it adds to the triggering possibilities? Also, sounds to me as though Nathan had a reaction (just like my husband) to the covid vaccination.