Sorry, but i think this was appallingly edited.....starting each bike with endless close ups meant we had to wait to actually see the bike.....start with a good steady GV (general view) then go to mid shots and close ups. Also just because a shot moves doesnt make it good, there needs to be a reason for the move....a pan from 'nothing' to 'bugger all' should not be used, if in doubt keep it fixed.....sorry, I am trying to help.
This is a Great Britain targeted video based on local manufacturers. All major manufacturers as Giant, Specialized, Trek are left outside, thus it is not objective.
CAADs are sweet to ride. I have a 2015 CAAD10 and I love it. It's built with Dura Ace 9000, Hollowgram SI crankset , C1 cockpit, and Mavic Ksyrium Elite S (Mavic Cosmic Ultimates for race day). Incredible bike. Then I test rode a CAAD12 105 for the day. Amazing! It performs like the 10 but the smaller diameter seatpost makes this bike even more comfortable than mine. Cannondale really did their homework.
Have CAADs changes much since the 90s? I have a 2.8 and to look at, they haven't changed, weight hasn't either but suspect the new ones are a more comfortable ride?
Muhammad Ali- No. It doesn't, but my 2016 Super Six Evo HiMod did after I had the bottom bracket serviced the first time. That bike has the SiSL2 crankset. It doesn't anymore. I just serviced the CAAD10'Ss bottom bracket for the first time three months ago (Jan 2018). I bought her February 2015.
greenfoam....They are still true to the CAAD's heritage in geometry but they are totally different animals. My seatstays are the only tubes on the bike that match. Hydroforming is a game changer. They take technology used to make carbon frames and apply it to aluminum now. For what it's worth, those old 2.8s still make great crit machines even by today's standard though. It's still good enough to update the components on and appreciate it's potential. There is so much untapped potential in those frames. The components back then weren't as advanced as that frame. That's why updated stuff makes the 2.8 feel like a new machine.
The TROLL Yeah, I've never really inderstood that though. My mate let me ride his Mason Revolution(?), but aside from the ride quality I wasn't blown away like I thought I would be.
We shot this video before the review was finished so the Trek couldn't make it but if you wanna know our thoughts then check out the written review road.cc/content/review/236530-trek-%C3%A9monda-alr-6
If our reviewer had got a shift on then it could have made the video, the review came just too late but you can read it here road.cc/content/review/236530-trek-%C3%A9monda-alr-6
The Cannondale CAAD 12 is outstanding. Mine has Ultegra and rim brakes, and it handles and accelerates like a dream. For the same price as a Carbon Bike with lesser components, it's a bargain. It's as light as comparable carbon bikes, and even though people think aluminum bikes are hard riding, the CAAD 12 has been great for me on all day rides. No complaints about the comfort.
everybody commenting about "hey what about this biiiiike"...did you not hear the guy at the start? If it's not in this list, they probably haven't tested it. Or it's the allez which are recalled.
These people say "stiff" as if it`s a good thing. I`ve ridden stiff aluminium frames and they`re really not that fun, every bump is a pain in the....good news is that not all aluminium frames are that stiff. It depends on what you get. If you care about comfort and durability, steel is the only way to go(says me on my 1983 Basso ;)
The frame stiffness is irrelevant. Bike frames in general are not designed to flex, and generally flex very poorly. In terms of road bikes, wider tires and a carbon seat post will make any bike more comfortable. As the only part designed to flex are seat posts, specifically carbon fiber seatposts
I own an Allez sprint. It’s great it’s stiffer and slightly more responsive than the caad12 I’m over 200lbs. I also have to say that this discussion isn’t complete without the Trek Emonda Alr. I ended up liking the Emonda Alr more than the Caad12 also. I had my heart set on the Caad12 ended up with Allez sprint DSW after riding all 3.
We did test the Emonda ALR 6 but the video was done before the review was finished so it didn't make the cut for this particular video. No doubt we'll revisit aluminium bikes later in the year
Fuji. Outstanding aluminum bikes. Outstanding carbon fiber bikes as well, but the aluminum are very very nice. Rented one and rode it for 2 weeks in Spain in the mountains. I'm a dyed in the wool carbon guy but I was blown away. Very live feel, great shock and vibration absorption. Very very reasonably priced vs the Cannondales etc of the world. 1/2 the price vs carbon for what is probably a better bike. If you can get past the stigma that aluminum is a poor man's material (it's not) then you can save a bunch of cash and have a very nice, very light, very responsive bike. Even when I build up a carbon frameset, I use aluminum stem, seatpost, handlebars etc because it is a much better material for those uses than carbon. Lighter, stiffer, etc.
helio faleiros junior I’m gonna test one out, been hearing a lot about them and would be nice to park it next to my Allez Pro. I know bike radar named CAAD 12 bike of the year 2016 so it must be one hell of a bike.
Reviewed too late to make the video but we have just finished reviewing the Trek Emonda so give this a read if you're interested road.cc/content/review/236530-trek-%C3%A9monda-alr-6
road.cc thanks that was a great review and showed the Edmonda in a very good light. I am still however unable to decide which of the pair I should buy for my first road bike, canyon or trek??
Love my Caad10 Rim brake w/Ultegra, would have also loved a Caad12 but got a deal I couldn't pass up and wasn't a fan of any of the Caad12 color schemes their fist year. I really prefer the lines of the Caad12 more though, I'm pretty sure it's the tapered head tube, as something about my Caad10 in a 54 just doesn't look right in the front.
Bacchetta Giro A 20 aluminium , comfort and speed, what more could you ask for? here are some more aluminum bikes you should take for a spin Rans www.ransbikes.com/ Bacchetta www.bacchettabikes.com/ www.hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/sm/gte/index_e.html cruzbike.com/ Just trying to get some balance to the equation as you seem to be biased towards a certain type of bike being the best?
Thanks! Erm, I'm not sure we've had the 2018 version in for review due to the recall issues with the fork but don't quote me on that. No doubt we will have one in at some point though
Yes I remember hearing about the recall. Though last I heard Specialized was issuing replacement forks. The allez sprint I believe gets the full carbon s-works fork. Wonder if any of the other bikes with the fork were recalled?
I currently have a Kenisis made Motobecane Super Strada frame/fork. I did a build with 105 R7000 group and Ultegra R8000 calipers. Amazing set-up. Kenisis makes some quality aluminum frames imo. Great clean wields.
Superlight aluminium frames on these bikes?? Dude, you must be kidding! I've checked out the weight of some of these and came across weights between 1,3-1,5kg, I guess this is without the fork and there's no way i'd consider that superlight. I remember Principia building aluminium frames below 1kg weight and that was already like 10 years ago. 1,3kg frame weight is what a 1200€ Rose bike reaches easily!
Nice video. I think that the problem is not that alu bikes have been forgotten. The problem is the amount of ignorance about materials. merchandising is leading most of bike's users through the false images of pro riders (i say false because a non pro should not base his next bike on what pro do or use). Not many people know about different types of alloys and the real importance of all of that when they are considering buying a new bike. It is a shame that it is far to be vulgarised for everyone to understand and enjoy. By the way, do you guys have any comments about columbus alu frames? altec, altec 2 and its top level called airplane ??? PS: Pantani's bikes were used to be constructed mainly on 7075 alu tripple butted, made by hand by bianchi ;)
How do these modern, welded Aluminum bikes stack up to the glued system Vitus was using in the mid 80's? My KAS Vitus 979 w/Dura Ace 7402 weighs in at ~1 pound more than the Vitus Zenium you fat shamed but is still a go-fast machine.
We haven't decided if review videos are something we want to do on the channel or not. There are plenty of videos focusing on Canyon though, just go and check through 👍
Opens saying disc brakes + space for fatter tires, and then reviews caliper bikes. No metrics just a verbal opinion that could be swapped between any of these bikes, "never harsh ... grin inducing ... etc." It's bs.
If I had money i wouldnt ever bother with claris shifters tektro brakes and aluminium frames lol.I would instantly go for a full carbon with dura ace di2
I love my Marin Argenta Elite 105, rides smoothly, is not as light as a carbon, but prefer 100 times more. I tried my husband's Orca M30 it's extremely light but I feel the bumps a lot more.
The review of each of the 6 sounds like a direct reading of a press release. Devoid of even the mildest criticism or specification how is one to choose between them ?
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In 2018 i think it's time to leave slideshows only behind. Seriously.
same old.
Sorry, but i think this was appallingly edited.....starting each bike with endless close ups meant we had to wait to actually see the bike.....start with a good steady GV (general view) then go to mid shots and close ups. Also just because a shot moves doesnt make it good, there needs to be a reason for the move....a pan from 'nothing' to 'bugger all' should not be used, if in doubt keep it fixed.....sorry, I am trying to help.
GilletNick Orme
Google images makes wonders!
Disc brakes spoilt the good look of the bicycles.
This is a Great Britain targeted video based on local manufacturers. All major manufacturers as Giant, Specialized, Trek are left outside, thus it is not objective.
CAADs are sweet to ride. I have a 2015 CAAD10 and I love it. It's built with Dura Ace 9000, Hollowgram SI crankset , C1 cockpit, and Mavic Ksyrium Elite S (Mavic Cosmic Ultimates for race day). Incredible bike. Then I test rode a CAAD12 105 for the day. Amazing! It performs like the 10 but the smaller diameter seatpost makes this bike even more comfortable than mine. Cannondale really did their homework.
Have CAADs changes much since the 90s? I have a 2.8 and to look at, they haven't changed, weight hasn't either but suspect the new ones are a more comfortable ride?
Terrence Bennett i
Terrence Bennett does the bbcreak?
Muhammad Ali- No. It doesn't, but my 2016 Super Six Evo HiMod did after I had the bottom bracket serviced the first time. That bike has the SiSL2 crankset. It doesn't anymore. I just serviced the CAAD10'Ss bottom bracket for the first time three months ago (Jan 2018). I bought her February 2015.
greenfoam....They are still true to the CAAD's heritage in geometry but they are totally different animals. My seatstays are the only tubes on the bike that match. Hydroforming is a game changer. They take technology used to make carbon frames and apply it to aluminum now. For what it's worth, those old 2.8s still make great crit machines even by today's standard though. It's still good enough to update the components on and appreciate it's potential. There is so much untapped potential in those frames. The components back then weren't as advanced as that frame. That's why updated stuff makes the 2.8 feel like a new machine.
So many of of us dream of Colnago's or Bianchi's and then there's me, lusting after a CAAD12.
Jon Burnell well u know what they say bruv, steel is real
The TROLL Yeah, I've never really inderstood that though. My mate let me ride his Mason Revolution(?), but aside from the ride quality I wasn't blown away like I thought I would be.
I got me a caad12 ultegra last year and man it is a great bike!
SuperDeinVadda Very nice 🖒
Oh you're not alone man, you're not alone..... 😬
Allez Sprint.
What about the Merida alloy bikes quality ??? can u make a video about that ? ty
I would like to see the Specialized Allez sprint.
Thank you for a good Aluminum bike presentation. Will look into the Bowman..
I will never buy a carbon bike, for the same reason that I'll never buy a fiberglass body car either.
Has that Mason bike been cleaned with a brillo pad?
Alex Lintern
😂
Steel brush
*DETAILS*
where can i get a good bike?
Wire brush
Allez sprint!
Allez Sprint please!
Trek Emonda ALR
We shot this video before the review was finished so the Trek couldn't make it but if you wanna know our thoughts then check out the written review road.cc/content/review/236530-trek-%C3%A9monda-alr-6
Trek Emonda ALR 6!
If our reviewer had got a shift on then it could have made the video, the review came just too late but you can read it here road.cc/content/review/236530-trek-%C3%A9monda-alr-6
The Cannondale CAAD 12 is outstanding. Mine has Ultegra and rim brakes, and it handles and accelerates like a dream. For the same price as a Carbon Bike with lesser components, it's a bargain. It's as light as comparable carbon bikes, and even though people think aluminum bikes are hard riding, the CAAD 12 has been great for me on all day rides. No complaints about the comfort.
CAAD 12 is simply Amazing! I don't even care about carbon bikes these days.
adriboff1
Me either, bro! The Aluminates !
adriboff1 i also like to ride aluminum bikes. Love my Ultimate Al. But my first ride on a carbon bike blew me away. Sorry mate, no comparison
Step Forward But you have not ridden a Cannondale. Even the Caad 8 is astonishing. I’m gonna buy the Caad 12 next year.
Cannondale Synapse alloy - superb!
Comfortable, fast, sturdy, good looking, excellent welding and reasonably priced.
Still riding my Caad 9!
everybody commenting about "hey what about this biiiiike"...did you not hear the guy at the start? If it's not in this list, they probably haven't tested it. Or it's the allez which are recalled.
These people say "stiff" as if it`s a good thing. I`ve ridden stiff aluminium frames and they`re really not that fun, every bump is a pain in the....good news is that not all aluminium frames are that stiff. It depends on what you get. If you care about comfort and durability, steel is the only way to go(says me on my 1983 Basso ;)
The frame stiffness is irrelevant. Bike frames in general are not designed to flex, and generally flex very poorly. In terms of road bikes, wider tires and a carbon seat post will make any bike more comfortable. As the only part designed to flex are seat posts, specifically carbon fiber seatposts
And carbon handlebars
If they are pushing the alloy frames to lower weight they should do so with the cockpit !
Specialized Allez please :)
reddevil211287 I was thinking the same thing
I own an Allez sprint. It’s great it’s stiffer and slightly more responsive than the caad12 I’m over 200lbs. I also have to say that this discussion isn’t complete without the Trek Emonda Alr. I ended up liking the Emonda Alr more than the Caad12 also. I had my heart set on the Caad12 ended up with Allez sprint DSW after riding all 3.
We did test the Emonda ALR 6 but the video was done before the review was finished so it didn't make the cut for this particular video. No doubt we'll revisit aluminium bikes later in the year
Would’ve been cool to see an Émonda ALR
Cannondale CAAD 10
Fuji. Outstanding aluminum bikes. Outstanding carbon fiber bikes as well, but the aluminum are very very nice. Rented one and rode it for 2 weeks in Spain in the mountains. I'm a dyed in the wool carbon guy but I was blown away. Very live feel, great shock and vibration absorption. Very very reasonably priced vs the Cannondales etc of the world. 1/2 the price vs carbon for what is probably a better bike.
If you can get past the stigma that aluminum is a poor man's material (it's not) then you can save a bunch of cash and have a very nice, very light, very responsive bike. Even when I build up a carbon frameset, I use aluminum stem, seatpost, handlebars etc because it is a much better material for those uses than carbon. Lighter, stiffer, etc.
Some of these bikes have some really ugly welds!
you tease us by not showing entire bike at the start, nice foreplay team road.cc
Specialized Allez Elite Smart weld! Best aluminum bike ever! :)
well,I respect your opinion but go ride a CAAD 12 first than you can say whats "the best" lol
Ricardo Figueiras
Eeeeerrrr! Nop! CAAD ones!
Ricardo Figueiras yes! I have one! it’s awesome, the 2015 Pro sram red-force model so it was a bit pricey.
helio faleiros junior I’m gonna test one out, been hearing a lot about them and would be nice to park it next to my Allez Pro. I know bike radar named CAAD 12 bike of the year 2016 so it must be one hell of a bike.
Specialized Allez DSW Sprint Comp 2017. The Best among aluminum road bikes😎😎
Trek Edmonda alr 6 and canyon ultimate al slx aero would be most welcome
Reviewed too late to make the video but we have just finished reviewing the Trek Emonda so give this a read if you're interested road.cc/content/review/236530-trek-%C3%A9monda-alr-6
road.cc thanks that was a great review and showed the Edmonda in a very good light. I am still however unable to decide which of the pair I should buy for my first road bike, canyon or trek??
I would like to see you test Fuji Roubaix 1.1
i select cannondale caad12
Love my Caad10 Rim brake w/Ultegra, would have also loved a Caad12 but got a deal I couldn't pass up and wasn't a fan of any of the Caad12 color schemes their fist year. I really prefer the lines of the Caad12 more though, I'm pretty sure it's the tapered head tube, as something about my Caad10 in a 54 just doesn't look right in the front.
I had a Canyon Ultimate AL 7.0 once. Lovely alu frame. So light.
My 2018 Giant Contend SL disc brake is a pretty awesome aluminium road bike too...
Caad12 with da set and carbon wheel
Total weight < 7kg
Rose xeon alu, merckx blockhaus, trek emonda sl are some great alu bikes
Caad12 2018 rider here
No Bianchi FG Lite ?
Love my caad 12
caad 12
Why are all these bike videos from the U.K? Nobody rides bikes in the USA? Plus, good luck finding these brands in the U.S.
Bacchetta Giro A 20 aluminium , comfort and speed, what more could you ask for?
here are some more aluminum bikes you should take for a spin
Rans www.ransbikes.com/
Bacchetta www.bacchettabikes.com/
www.hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/sm/gte/index_e.html
cruzbike.com/
Just trying to get some balance to the equation as you seem to be biased towards a certain type of bike being the best?
2017 CAAD 12. 👍
specialized allez sprint disc 2019!!!!!
Loooove the CAAD12 Disc without the rear brake bridge.... Pure sex...
Norevlimitr where can? i get a good bike?
I would like to see a challenge between the specialized allez sprint and the trek emonda alr
Fuji Roubaix 👍 Frame weighs 1100g. The best thing: I crashed the bike and I'm still using it. No parts needed replacement apart from a bar tape 🙃
Try to find one today - no such animal. While you're at it, ask for rim brakes and a mechanical shift gruppo.
That mason looks like it has been riden through a bush. Looks basic compared to my Giant Contend.
Nice vídeo!!!! I would ad in your list Specialized Allez DSW Sprint Comp 2017/2018. Great Bike.
Thanks! Erm, I'm not sure we've had the 2018 version in for review due to the recall issues with the fork but don't quote me on that. No doubt we will have one in at some point though
Have road.cc. Not tested and reviewed the specialized allez?
Yes we have, and there's a review on the website, but since then the bike has been recalled due to an issue with the fork
Yes I remember hearing about the recall. Though last I heard Specialized was issuing replacement forks. The allez sprint I believe gets the full carbon s-works fork. Wonder if any of the other bikes with the fork were recalled?
My understanding of the situation was that the regular allez was recalled, not the allez sprint.
Full carbon fork aswell.
trek alr series please!!!
Can this guy stop reading from a script!!
Yeah, he's trying to put us to sleep, zzzz
Canyon Endurance AL 8.0??? 🤔🤔🤔🚴🏼🚴🏼🚴🏼🙏🙏🙏
Caad 10 is better. They actually lowered the quality of the caad 12
CAAD12. A great Bike
Specialized allez smartweld I love mine I'd love to share what a great frame it is
How does the latest Aluminum bikes compare to something like a mid 90's Klein that I have? Its a project bike that needs some work.
Still living my 2010 CAAD NINE.
Can’t believe the Allez sprint didnt cut the list
Sum of 5he best handling/ feeling bikes I've owned have been aluminium everyone who has rode my bikes have said the same.
Guru aluminium frame bike is high-tech bike in Canada
I currently have a Kenisis made Motobecane Super Strada frame/fork. I did a build with 105 R7000 group and Ultegra R8000 calipers. Amazing set-up. Kenisis makes some quality aluminum frames imo. Great clean wields.
Superlight aluminium frames on these bikes?? Dude, you must be kidding! I've checked out the weight of some of these and came across weights between 1,3-1,5kg, I guess this is without the fork and there's no way i'd consider that superlight. I remember Principia building aluminium frames below 1kg weight and that was already like 10 years ago. 1,3kg frame weight is what a 1200€ Rose bike reaches easily!
Colnago Dream Lux Airplane II, preferred over Carbon C40 at the time, over 19 years old but looks new and ride likes the wind!
Great product
What about Trek Domane ALR5 Disc?
Nice video. I think that the problem is not that alu bikes have been forgotten. The problem is the amount of ignorance about materials. merchandising is leading most of bike's users through the false images of pro riders (i say false because a non pro should not base his next bike on what pro do or use). Not many people know about different types of alloys and the real importance of all of that when they are considering buying a new bike. It is a shame that it is far to be vulgarised for everyone to understand and enjoy. By the way, do you guys have any comments about columbus alu frames? altec, altec 2 and its top level called airplane ???
PS: Pantani's bikes were used to be constructed mainly on 7075 alu tripple butted, made by hand by bianchi ;)
alloy is the best...Caad 12, canyon al slx or emonda al slx are all brilliant.
How do these modern, welded Aluminum bikes stack up to the glued system Vitus was using in the mid 80's? My KAS Vitus 979 w/Dura Ace 7402 weighs in at ~1 pound more than the Vitus Zenium you fat shamed but is still a go-fast machine.
Can we have review of Canyon bike please?
We haven't decided if review videos are something we want to do on the channel or not. There are plenty of videos focusing on Canyon though, just go and check through 👍
Opens saying disc brakes + space for fatter tires, and then reviews caliper bikes. No metrics just a verbal opinion that could be swapped between any of these bikes, "never harsh ... grin inducing ... etc." It's bs.
Cannondale lost me for not building with Shimanon inestead of the FSA parts... but who am I
Vintage KLEIN, TREK, RALEIGH, FUJI, aluminum classics that broke ground for current technology, etc..
have a test of specialized allez sprint sl
Why do all these use carbon for the forks?
carbon is a better shock absorber... less vibey through the handlebars.
I have a Vitus framed bike and it must the most unrefined on the road.
CAAD12, Endurace , Defy and Merida Scultura are the best Al bikes.
Windstream streamline GT
My caad 10, 6,9 kg , pure 🚀!
But the Palace, looks mean! Beautiful paint job . Didn't try it .
Yeah, we really liked the Palace when we tested it. Even won our frameset of the year for 2017/18
If I had money i wouldnt ever bother with claris shifters tektro brakes and aluminium frames lol.I would instantly go for a full carbon with dura ace di2
Giant TCR SLR 1
Windstream WinStar GT 18-speed 27 inch rims 22 pounds Aluminum Bike baddest bike I ever owned
How about testing the Planet X RT-58? It is dirt cheap and the finish of the tubes welding almost looks like the frame is made out of carbon.
thats because planet X make pure shite
I love my Marin Argenta Elite 105, rides smoothly, is not as light as a carbon, but prefer 100 times more. I tried my husband's Orca M30 it's extremely light but I feel the bumps a lot more.
Omg, this cliche-riddled-script-reading robotic presenter is painful to watch / listen to. Fortunately the content is half-decent.
The review of each of the 6 sounds like a direct reading of a press release. Devoid of even the mildest criticism or specification how is one to choose between them ?
a youtuber thats also a writer. great job
What about that first alloy trolley that went past in the first 30seconds?
We haven't got that in for review yet but when we do there will be a full in-depth first look video and an extensive article 😉
Super film 👍 Brawo 👍 Thank you 👍 POLAND 👍🇵🇱🚴🇵🇱🚵🇵🇱
A rough estimate price wise would have been nice here. Like the video otherwise. First bike is fuckin beautiful.
I ride aluminum too, but I will never go back to a diamond frame bike
They love their granny walkers in this town. 0:04 (top right) and 0:08 (not discounting pink crocs too).
2018 Fuji Roubaix 1.1 disc is a great Aluminum bike.
How would a BMC ALR be rated in comparison to a Caad 12/13 ?
Hello @road.cc i am not sure why... but why dont you put the Planet-X Galibier in discussion? That is a very light frameset for less money. Cheeeeers
Only reason it isn't in the discussion is because we haven't had that in for review
But why didnt you have one in review?
Maaaan... That CAAD's hollowgram cranks are a beauty.
Anything from Principia would be cool to see how they held up against the others.