The government is to blame. Lack of knowledge about the actual industry for anyone in parliament. China don’t give a &;£ about burning coal to power production. We in the uk are done for in manufacturing.
Bang on. China govt subsidises their automotive industry more than any other govt does, they have cheaper labour costs, and cost of energy used to manufacture their cars is cheaper because they still rely heavily on fossil fuels. The UK has the most expensive energy cost of any major car producer and is also the only one yet to move on placing tariffs on Chinese imports. And the govt wants us to move to EVs, and seemingly sees cheaper Chinese vehicles as a means to accelerate adoption of EVs, no matter how ‘dirty’ the production process might be. No wonder UK car manufacturing is screwed. And worryingly, UK govt knows as much about food production and stimulating economic growth as they do about the automotive sector!
You vote for the government, so you are to blame also. You vote, you consent, you reap the consequences. Parliament are anything but incompetent, they know exactly what they are doing.
These ev's from China might start off cheap , but once the British and European car industries are out of business ,the Chinese will have a total monopoly and control of the market .With everyone being dependent by that point ,they will be able to control the price, supply of spares etc.They would even be able to dictate what chargers are used,what software is in the cars etc.There would be no competition. The county would be under the control of Chinese manufacturers ( China). 😢
On China, the idea of electric cars is to reduce emissions. China is the largest polluter in the World by a log way. So their power is cheaper and is mainly coal powered and their manufacturers are subsidised. This means that we are moving our emissions to China and in the process we are decimating our own industries. The irony of this is mind boggling.
The previous government were not that great but this Labour one is an absolute joke. I agree, it appears they just do not understand business. They can’t see the damage they have done I just hope they don’t last long enough to ruin everything else in what was and can still be a great country..
I think we are likely to emulate Cuba, where old ICE cars are kept running for decades by the sensible people. The only way this ends is by the consumer refusing to buy these electric cars. One thing I’d bet my house on, is if you buy an EV they will come with a disposal tax at the end of its life, it’s inevitable.
Hi Richard great comments have you seen the brand new ev’s parked in Liverpool docks rammed full dealers pre- registering new cars to get the numbers to keep government happy dealers are virtually giving them away up to 35% discounts on a new car Vauxhall ev moka £23,000!! on the road not that I would want one keeping my 2017 diesel disco sport as long as the dreaded 2.0 litre engenium engine lasts perhaps they can convert all the unused ev’s into milk floats or ice cream vans ha!ha!keep up the good work dave.
Excellent information... It just goes to show how out of touch our government is, this whole net zero movement will paralyze this country, and for what? to show that WE don`t make the pollution, sadly our little bubble of fresh air over the UK does not stay put, we can`t afford to make anything competitively and many people are struggling to even heat their homes...
Absolutely. Green terrorism will totally destroy this economy. Our standard of living will go backwards; it has started to do so already. But that is exactly what they want. Beggars can't afford to virtue signal. We need cheap electricity by the most appropriate means that is possible, and a free market where carmakers are permitted to make the kind of vehicles that people can afford, and might actually want to buy.
EV batteries do not go to land fill. They are either repurposed or recycled for their metals. We were all brought up on accepting the unreliability of petrol/diesel engines that need constant servicing. It supported an entire industry for over 100 years. Yes, we are entering a new era, and China will most likely dominate. As a matter of interest, if you had £1000 to invest, which car manufacturer would you choose?
One thing is for sure you don’t see many pink futuristic EV’s coming in from China. When are the powers that be going to realise we cannot afford zero tariffs on cars from China. Two years ago it was predicted it would happen now it has. Our trade deficit with China over the past year ended June 2024 was £32 billion. Next year that will increase exponentially if we continue to buy Chinese EV’s. Why do we always press the self destruct button in the UK.? Great video Richard as always.
@@mistermood4164 I would have't to agree on that one with you, when it comes to cars thats for sure.. though the car industry in the uk will not exist as of 2025 in the uk thats a dead cert chancellor reeves put and end to that
Hey Richard. Left the UK for Australia back in the early Noughties. Oz had Ford, Holden (GM)and Toyota and now has nothing. The gvmt (ie tax payers) subsidized these massive corporations until they all decided that the maths didn’t work (salary levels mainly). There was a tax called “luxury car tax” which was on anything imported over about $60k, which indexed up from time to time. Now there’s nobody making cars here, but the tax still exists!. Our Labor gvmt are pushing EVs hard despite the majority of our grid being on coal
One of my sons works for Toyota in England as a Robotics Technician. It’s a well paid job and he’s been there from school, starting as an apprentice in 2011. He has 2 young children and is now worried about his future. Once China destroy our motor manufacturing industry they will hike their prices.
Well, that’s me out folks!, I’ll keep the petrol mk7 golf ive had for 10 years for another 24 months then im finished with cars for good! Time to go down the pushbike route from now on! Enjoy your “Driving devices” from china! 🤣👍
Very surprised by your apparent surprise at the situation, particularly in respect of energy costs. Your a bright fella, so I guess the style of delivery in the vlog is somewhat for the masses? I’m sure you were well aware of where the energy price, the global car market and manufacturing/manufacturers was going. For my tuppence worth, we could eventually end up with two or three class of car buyers. Those who will lease their cheap new Chinese EV that will be much like white goods, in that it’s design life will be for the length of lease, then they’l return it and lease another. There may be a few stalwarts continuing on against all the government hurdles and taxes who will continue to run ICE vehicles. Scavenging parts of older vehicles to maintain them and depending on how commercial vehicle fuel type goes, maybe a Mad Max type world in respect of obtaining and securing diesel fuel or repurposing other by products of oil. Then possibly in the middle those people buying used EVs that have been cannibalised from many EV vehicles to keep them running beyond their design life. There will no doubt be a whole new market in used, repurposed or new batteries. More a dystopian car world than utopia, of cause I maybe completely wrong, but once there are only cheap Chinese EVs available, the price will inevitably rise or vehicle numbers for export will be controlled by CCCP. This be complete fiction though rather than reality, but times are changing and not necessarily for the better.🤔🏴🇬🇧
The consumer ends up paying the tariff, not the importer. Why would we want our government to do this? Some stupid attempt to prop up a failed business model? Strange.
@@CarlGerhardt1Brilliant, did you used to write for Soccer AM? Poor puns aside, what’s your point? You think there weren’t a lot of “mistruths” in that video? Or is it just comforting to believe?
Tariffs on Chinese EVs would be harmful to British people because they would push up the cost of electric cars, which are already very high. Tariffs are merely there to support uncompetitive domestic manufacturers. Since most UK EV car manufacturing is exported to other markets, tariffs in the UK wouldn't benefit UK manufacturers much in any event. Electric cars are a mere appliance (actually, most ICE cars have been this for years - think of the Toyota Corolla). It is very difficult for Europe and N America to compete in manufacturing 'white goods' EV cars because they are technically quite simple compared with an ICE car, and our costs are too high. Our comparative advantage is in producing highly advanced ICEs. With that advantage destroyed by the move to EVs, Europe and NA's car industry is wrecked. No tariffs can fix this policy mistake.
The car workers voted themselves into oblivion in 2016. Voted out of their sales market, voted for barriers to just in time delivery which is essential to their jobs and voted out of a market that requires rules of origin. EV or not, car industry is just another casualty of the previous government who only wanted to avoid tax for themselves.
Have a look at China Observer about the the state of the Chinese EV manufacturers and how the number EV manufacturers have gone bust,over100 in the past 12 months
So where are these cheap cheap Chinese cars? Not in the uk for sure, somebody’s making a massive importing profit with just a ten % import duty. This ten % is on EVs too. The other note is the Chinese are not just cheap, Northvolt just burned through 5/6€ billion trying and failing to make decent batteries. The tech is excellent in china when they need to do it. Be interesting to see how Tata get on with their battery factory. Hopefully better than the Moggy rebrand.
Its bonkers, we condemn countries for their human rights laws (China & Saudi) but at the same time enable them to carry on by pushing business to them (EVs and the world cup as just a few examples).
Adding a 100% tariff on EV cars means ordinary people like myself cannot afford them , is that fair, its one rule for people like you with money , but does not allow ordinary people to make there own minds up!!!
What do you think happens to the economy if what is left of manufacturing goes? More of the same for the last 30 years, sterling will fall further, you will be poorer, taxes will be even higher. At the momnet you are directly subsidising EV bungs and manufacturers are scalping more money off elevated ICE car pricing to fill the growing holes in their balance sheets so now the ICE car you can't afford new is also out of your price range.
You say put tariffs on Chinese cars to solve the problem. All that does is TAX ordinary folk. You proffer misery, and making 'cheap' Chinese electric cars painfully expensive, to achieve what?, the survival of a UK produced product?. Fine for you, with your buckets of cash. Zombie manufacturers should NOT be supported at the expense of the average car buyer.
@@keyo525I'm going to take a guess that you have no idea what electric costs are for an EV on a home tariff? I charged mine the other night at a cost which works out at 0.5p per mile. Sometimes I get paid to charge.
So, what do you do for a paycheck? Nothing that actually produces anything useful, I assume. (Maybe you're one of those university or government 'experts'.)
@@V70P3rules To the contrary, you assert that the costs to charge a car are excessive. I pointed out quite the opposite! I don't think 2p per kWh or a typical 7p per kWh or sometimes being PAID to charge is excessive. If people want to cling onto only referencing the most expensive public rate or even domestic capped rate then crack on but other rates are available.
The planet is failing due to emissions and we should all go into EVS, to save our it. So surely we should ALL get into EV’s as soon as possible and China are giving us the opportunity to do this by giving us affordable electric vehicles but we are going to put tariffs on them so we can’t afford them to save other car companies that are “too expensive “. If the planet is so precious we should embrace the fact that these cars are available to clean the air that we breathe and if it’s so important to get rid of fossil fuels why is government going to stop,us buying them ?
Don't believe everything that you see on the BBC. EV's are simply unfit for purpose. Tomorrow, this woke Marxist regime could extol the virtues of eating your own excrement with a plastic spoon. That hardly means to say it would be a good idea.
Top Gear Trio did warn us Chinese cars industry will take over like everything else, elderly buying Chinese MG like they'll buy Hitachi TV, Oh they used to be good make, we had one years ago.
One of my sons works for Toyota in England as a Robotics Technician. It’s a well paid job and he’s been there from school, starting as an apprentice in 2011. He has 2 young children and is now worried about his future. Once China destroy our motor manufacturing industry they will hike their prices.
The government is to blame. Lack of knowledge about the actual industry for anyone in parliament. China don’t give a &;£ about burning coal to power production. We in the uk are done for in manufacturing.
Bang on. China govt subsidises their automotive industry more than any other govt does, they have cheaper labour costs, and cost of energy used to manufacture their cars is cheaper because they still rely heavily on fossil fuels. The UK has the most expensive energy cost of any major car producer and is also the only one yet to move on placing tariffs on Chinese imports. And the govt wants us to move to EVs, and seemingly sees cheaper Chinese vehicles as a means to accelerate adoption of EVs, no matter how ‘dirty’ the production process might be. No wonder UK car manufacturing is screwed. And worryingly, UK govt knows as much about food production and stimulating economic growth as they do about the automotive sector!
You vote for the government, so you are to blame also. You vote, you consent, you reap the consequences.
Parliament are anything but incompetent, they know exactly what they are doing.
China has built more solar and wind than any other country, they just managed their grid better
Exactly, the Government seem almost anti business full stop.
China uses more renewable energy than any other country
These ev's from China might start off cheap , but once the British and European car industries are out of business ,the Chinese will have a total monopoly and control of the market .With everyone being dependent by that point ,they will be able to control the price, supply of spares etc.They would even be able to dictate what chargers are used,what software is in the cars etc.There would be no competition. The county would be under the control of Chinese manufacturers ( China). 😢
This just another example of this government’s lack of commerce, clueless in so many ways.
Not clueless just following Orders to bring in Great Reset
God help this country in a global war with supplies cut off, when you no longer make steel from iron ore you’re no longer a country 🤷
On China, the idea of electric cars is to reduce emissions. China is the largest polluter in the World by a log way. So their power is cheaper and is mainly coal powered and their manufacturers are subsidised. This means that we are moving our emissions to China and in the process we are decimating our own industries. The irony of this is mind boggling.
I don't agree. I believe it to be about energy security, to make them less dependent on oil from overseas.
The previous government were not that great but this Labour one is an absolute joke. I agree, it appears they just do not understand business. They can’t see the damage they have done I just hope they don’t last long enough to ruin everything else in what was and can still be a great country..
I think we are likely to emulate Cuba, where old ICE cars are kept running for decades by the sensible people. The only way this ends is by the consumer refusing to buy these electric cars. One thing I’d bet my house on, is if you buy an EV they will come with a disposal tax at the end of its life, it’s inevitable.
Hi Richard great comments have you seen the brand new ev’s parked in Liverpool docks rammed full dealers pre- registering new cars to get the numbers to keep government happy dealers are virtually giving them away up to 35% discounts on a new car Vauxhall ev moka £23,000!! on the road not that I would want one keeping my 2017 diesel disco sport as long as the dreaded 2.0 litre engenium engine lasts perhaps they can convert all the unused ev’s into milk floats or ice cream vans ha!ha!keep up the good work dave.
Are Miliband and Starmer working for China…?
Yep, most of the parliament has interests in China
какой ещё Китай?))))))))на мировой экономический форум весь мир рабтает,все политики это их куклы в мировом кукольном Театре(((((((((((
Starmer, Miliband, Lammy etc, have nothing but contempt for the UK.
Working for the WEF
Excellent information... It just goes to show how out of touch our government is, this whole net zero movement will paralyze this country, and for what? to show that WE don`t make the pollution, sadly our little bubble of fresh air over the UK does not stay put, we can`t afford to make anything competitively and many people are struggling to even heat their homes...
Absolutely. Green terrorism will totally destroy this economy. Our standard of living will go backwards; it has started to do so already. But that is exactly what they want. Beggars can't afford to virtue signal. We need cheap electricity by the most appropriate means that is possible, and a free market where carmakers are permitted to make the kind of vehicles that people can afford, and might actually want to buy.
EV batteries do not go to land fill. They are either repurposed or recycled for their metals. We were all brought up on accepting the unreliability of petrol/diesel engines that need constant servicing. It supported an entire industry for over 100 years. Yes, we are entering a new era, and China will most likely dominate. As a matter of interest, if you had £1000 to invest, which car manufacturer would you choose?
The government needs to scrap this stupid zero emissions mandate, before our car manufacturers all go.
100%
One thing is for sure you don’t see many pink futuristic EV’s coming in from China. When are the powers that be going to realise we cannot afford zero tariffs on cars from China. Two years ago it was predicted it would happen now it has. Our trade deficit with China over the past year ended June 2024 was £32 billion. Next year that will increase exponentially if we continue to buy Chinese EV’s. Why do we always press the self destruct button in the UK.? Great video Richard as always.
We are a nation of warehousing we will not be manufacturing anything i seen this coming years ago
Interesting topic, you think the used cars prior april 2017 will increase tenfold because no one literally wants ev/electric crap..
EVs are still better than anything slop the British make.
@@mistermood4164 I would have't to agree on that one with you, when it comes to cars thats for sure.. though the car industry in the uk will not exist as of 2025 in the uk thats a dead cert chancellor reeves put and end to that
Iab0ur wants aII eIectric car use in their 15 minute cities, everything is g0ing t0 pIan
Hey Richard. Left the UK for Australia back in the early Noughties. Oz had Ford, Holden (GM)and Toyota and now has nothing. The gvmt (ie tax payers) subsidized these massive corporations until they all decided that the maths didn’t work (salary levels mainly).
There was a tax called “luxury car tax” which was on anything imported over about $60k, which indexed up from time to time. Now there’s nobody making cars here, but the tax still exists!.
Our Labor gvmt are pushing EVs hard despite the majority of our grid being on coal
16k to replace a mercedes hybrid battery that went faulty after 3 years and outside of warranty
One of my sons works for Toyota in England as a Robotics Technician. It’s a well paid job and he’s been there from school, starting as an apprentice in 2011. He has 2 young children and is now worried about his future. Once China destroy our motor manufacturing industry they will hike their prices.
Well, that’s me out folks!, I’ll keep the petrol mk7 golf ive had for 10 years for another 24 months then im finished with cars for good! Time to go down the pushbike route from now on! Enjoy your “Driving devices” from china! 🤣👍
That's what they want James. They want us all to quit our cars.
Very surprised by your apparent surprise at the situation, particularly in respect of energy costs. Your a bright fella, so I guess the style of delivery in the vlog is somewhat for the masses? I’m sure you were well aware of where the energy price, the global car market and manufacturing/manufacturers was going. For my tuppence worth, we could eventually end up with two or three class of car buyers. Those who will lease their cheap new Chinese EV that will be much like white goods, in that it’s design life will be for the length of lease, then they’l return it and lease another. There may be a few stalwarts continuing on against all the government hurdles and taxes who will continue to run ICE vehicles. Scavenging parts of older vehicles to maintain them and depending on how commercial vehicle fuel type goes, maybe a Mad Max type world in respect of obtaining and securing diesel fuel or repurposing other by products of oil. Then possibly in the middle those people buying used EVs that have been cannibalised from many EV vehicles to keep them running beyond their design life. There will no doubt be a whole new market in used, repurposed or new batteries. More a dystopian car world than utopia, of cause I maybe completely wrong, but once there are only cheap Chinese EVs available, the price will inevitably rise or vehicle numbers for export will be controlled by CCCP. This be complete fiction though rather than reality, but times are changing and not necessarily for the better.🤔🏴🇬🇧
The consumer ends up paying the tariff, not the importer. Why would we want our government to do this? Some stupid attempt to prop up a failed business model? Strange.
This post sponsored by the CCP!
@@CarlGerhardt1Brilliant, did you used to write for Soccer AM? Poor puns aside, what’s your point? You think there weren’t a lot of “mistruths” in that video? Or is it just comforting to believe?
@@dougjsking What is 'Soccer AM'?
@@CarlGerhardt1a very dated UK football “magazine” programme from SkySports. Not good.
Tariffs on Chinese EVs would be harmful to British people because they would push up the cost of electric cars, which are already very high. Tariffs are merely there to support uncompetitive domestic manufacturers. Since most UK EV car manufacturing is exported to other markets, tariffs in the UK wouldn't benefit UK manufacturers much in any event.
Electric cars are a mere appliance (actually, most ICE cars have been this for years - think of the Toyota Corolla). It is very difficult for Europe and N America to compete in manufacturing 'white goods' EV cars because they are technically quite simple compared with an ICE car, and our costs are too high. Our comparative advantage is in producing highly advanced ICEs. With that advantage destroyed by the move to EVs, Europe and NA's car industry is wrecked. No tariffs can fix this policy mistake.
Another wef box ticked…….
The car workers voted themselves into oblivion in 2016. Voted out of their sales market, voted for barriers to just in time delivery which is essential to their jobs and voted out of a market that requires rules of origin.
EV or not, car industry is just another casualty of the previous government who only wanted to avoid tax for themselves.
@Angus_____ Not much to do, car industry was toast long before the change of government.
Self destruction
Why doesn't communist starmer tax communist cars, I don't really know any ideas .
Have a look at China Observer about the the state of the Chinese EV manufacturers and how the number EV manufacturers have gone bust,over100 in the past 12 months
Buy cheap pay twice.
Chinese bum bum
I watch a channel about china and all I can say is look up tofu dreg buildings and construction and then you might think different about Chinese cars
So where are these cheap cheap Chinese cars? Not in the uk for sure, somebody’s making a massive importing profit with just a ten % import duty. This ten % is on EVs too. The other note is the Chinese are not just cheap, Northvolt just burned through 5/6€ billion trying and failing to make decent batteries. The tech is excellent in china when they need to do it. Be interesting to see how Tata get on with their battery factory. Hopefully better than the Moggy rebrand.
They don't exist, it's all a scam. Keep driving your BMW diesel
@Andrew-q2c6d it's a land cruiser...diesel
Its bonkers, we condemn countries for their human rights laws (China & Saudi) but at the same time enable them to carry on by pushing business to them (EVs and the world cup as just a few examples).
Adding a 100% tariff on EV cars means ordinary people like myself cannot afford them , is that fair, its one rule for people like you with money , but does not allow ordinary people to make there own minds up!!!
What do you think happens to the economy if what is left of manufacturing goes? More of the same for the last 30 years, sterling will fall further, you will be poorer, taxes will be even higher. At the momnet you are directly subsidising EV bungs and manufacturers are scalping more money off elevated ICE car pricing to fill the growing holes in their balance sheets so now the ICE car you can't afford new is also out of your price range.
All the western countries showed them how to make good cars! They slap a batteries in them hey presto
I’ve got a bYD Atto 3 and already put 66k miles on it in just 18 months, they’re actually pretty good and put our cars to shame
You obviously don't understand how tariffs work. If you where awake, we lost all our industries through Thatcher.
Well you've got Communist Labour now 😂
Your blaming someone in power 34 years ago…LMFAO
You say put tariffs on Chinese cars to solve the problem.
All that does is TAX ordinary folk. You proffer misery, and making 'cheap' Chinese electric cars painfully expensive, to achieve what?, the survival of a UK produced product?. Fine for you, with your buckets of cash. Zombie manufacturers should NOT be supported at the expense of the average car buyer.
@@keyo525I'm going to take a guess that you have no idea what electric costs are for an EV on a home tariff?
I charged mine the other night at a cost which works out at 0.5p per mile.
Sometimes I get paid to charge.
So, what do you do for a paycheck? Nothing that actually produces anything useful, I assume. (Maybe you're one of those university or government 'experts'.)
@CarlGerhardt1 Maybe, but the points are valid.
@@djtaylorutubeI am fully aware of energy costs. I made no averments regarding the points you make. You interject an argument without basis.
@@V70P3rules To the contrary, you assert that the costs to charge a car are excessive. I pointed out quite the opposite!
I don't think 2p per kWh or a typical 7p per kWh or sometimes being PAID to charge is excessive.
If people want to cling onto only referencing the most expensive public rate or even domestic capped rate then crack on but other rates are available.
The planet is failing due to emissions and we should all go into EVS, to save our it. So surely we should ALL get into EV’s as soon as possible and China are giving us the opportunity to do this by giving us affordable electric vehicles but we are going to put tariffs on them so we can’t afford them to save other car companies that are “too expensive “. If the planet is so precious we should embrace the fact that these cars are available to clean the air that we breathe and if it’s so important to get rid of fossil fuels why is government going to stop,us buying them ?
The planet is NOT FAILING…!
@ I know. It was tongue in cheek. I think the whole think is a sham tbf. 👍
Don't believe everything that you see on the BBC. EV's are simply unfit for purpose. Tomorrow, this woke Marxist regime could extol the virtues of eating your own excrement with a plastic spoon. That hardly means to say it would be a good idea.
Like if you ever played Carmageddon 😁😁
Is it good 🤣
@@Challengetheroad Yaa, its a pretty old game, car crushing and runover zombies zombie cows and zombie dogs 😂 😂
Return Of The Saint episode about professor being protected having invented the Synthetic Fuel
Top Gear Trio did warn us Chinese cars industry will take over like everything else, elderly buying Chinese MG like they'll buy Hitachi TV, Oh they used to be good make, we had one years ago.
The UK needs to copy TRUMP.
TARIFFS
One of my sons works for Toyota in England as a Robotics Technician. It’s a well paid job and he’s been there from school, starting as an apprentice in 2011. He has 2 young children and is now worried about his future. Once China destroy our motor manufacturing industry they will hike their prices.