People is underrating Ohtani because people don't understand his pitching contribution. He threw 123 innings in 22 games, and has 3.28 ERA. This is as good as Clayton Kershaw. He is like Kershaw and Tatis Jr in one package. Ohtani is the MVP. No doubt.
The last guy to win the triple crown was Cabrera in 2012, it doesn't happen often. The last guy to have such an impact on the mound and at the plate was 100+ years! You're right Rob this doesn't happen often! Ohtani MVP!
@John Anderson bad team doesn’t mean he’s not MVP material. Winning matters, but the term MVP is most valuable player. His own impact should be measured, not his teams impact.
@John Anderson That's true. Because he's gonna play more and have more time to have a bigger impact in the season than Ohtani. If the Angels were better it'd help Ohtani with his MVP candidacy. Either that or Ohtani has to turn it up hard these next few games.
If Shohei was on a better team and his team made the playoffs, with all the stats and numbers he has currently, we wouldn't be having this discussion. So making the playoffs can't be the prerequisite or determining factor for this topic. Sometimes Shohei is his own damn run support. The Angels just aren't that good. They wouldn't be talked about as much as they are if it wasn't for Shohei. We're not talking Silver Slugger who gets it, Shohei or Vlad. One does a lot more at more positions on the field than the other.
@John Anderson The award will be given to one of them regardless of what any of us think, including Chris and Rob. Guess we'll just have to wait and see now won't we? Appreciate the dialogue mate!
Shohei is the ace on the Angels team... now people could say the Angels are a bad team .... but then that is the same thing they blast Shohei for being on team that isnt winning
Smh 😂🤣😂🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡 Rob Parker at it again.... Otheni has no kinda help and having a once in a life time season 🤔🤔🤔... He's the MVP who cares about the record
@@lindenmcdiarmid2009 good enough to have a 9 and 2 record on a team 6 games under 500 and yeah his 256 Batting average is low.... but then Vladi has a league leading 320 batting, average That is not low to you compared to watching people make a run at 400 in the past? dude has 45 home runs and a 3.30 ERA so yeah you can go after him for a high ERA but then the front runners for the Cy Young this year are Cole and Ray who have 3.03 and 2.72 ERAs respectively maybe just maybe every ones numbers are down in Batting Averages and up in ERA this year... 6000 players in MLB history have struck out 100 batters in a season 350 have hit over 40 home runs in a season no one has ever done both together in a season 22,000 baseball players in history MLB no one has ever hit 40 home runs and pitched 20 games heck no one has ever hit 30 home runs and pitched 15 games stop with the bias....
@@davidright1398 it’s impressive, I’m not saying he shouldn’t be MVP but he’s just overrated, he’d be better if he tried to hit for contact more than just home runs.
There are 9 players on the field and 9 people who bat. Vlad is not winning the games by himself the same as Shohei is not losing the games. Shohei is probably the main reason the angels have as many wins as they do because of the offensive/defensive aspects. Shohei Ohtani is the only man in baseball who can win a game by himself by pitching shutouts and bombing homers. Not to mention the whole 1st since BABE RUTH thing. Think about that.
@@CarolCityCane305 Yeah the best player, but he's not the only player. There is nothing Vlad is doing on defense that is amazing it's not even gold glove worthy is wtf I am talking about. Saying he is more deserving because he is on a team that has a better record would be idiotic.
Ohtani is the MVP. And a big reason why the Jays are playing in meaningful games this September is because of the rest of the lineup and the rotation and the bullpen. Ohtani is the MVP, no question.
Vladdy Jr can be a triple crown winner and he’s not the MVP ??? Lmao ohtani is amazing but Vladdy should def be closing the gap cause of his play and the fact the Jays are a playoff contending team. Angels are trash
@@salvatoresultana4058 what happen when Miggy won the triple crown and the tigers went to the playoffs? Trout came in 2nd and the next miggy had better numbers than the year before and again won it. Voters have set the precedent that you don’t have to make the playoffs but if a players with similar numbers has a team in the playoffs they’ll more than likely win it. Miggy twice, Altuve, and Donaldson
@@salvatoresultana4058 Trout had the best rookie season and did better the next season. Trout was being touted as the best player in the league after his rookie season. Even when he did put up numbers as he usually did guys with similar numbers and on contenders would take it
People are really underestimating Ohtani's season. Are people really that blind? 100 years folks. Hasn't been done in 100 years. I'm just going to leave it at that.
@John Anderson that’s the point. MVP you have to consider everything lol. “Oh he doesn’t pitch so we can’t compare that” is even more dumb. If he doesn’t pitch, he loses fully on that and now we gotta consider that to be a huge part.
@@SouthJerzVillains admit it vlad just had a hot streak if he gets 8 more home runs ok give him mvp but no it’s shohei shohei will get 47-48 home runs 100 rbi 10-2 as a pitcher and 3.1 era vlad will have more rbi cuz his team has a better lineup
@@SouthJerzVillains no, batting average and RBI’s are bad stats in general. Vlad is definitely a better hitter than Shohei, but Shohei is still great. He has a 154 wRC+ which is amazing, vlad is better by quite a bit at 169, but Shohei is also an elite pitcher
This was the last chance for Rob to show me he isn't a complete clown, and he failed miserably. How does the guy have a baseball HOF vote??? Ridiculous. I literally only watch for Broussard
You know you might have a point, but on the wrong topic, I actually think Rob is 100% right, there's no way a triple crown winner doesn't win the mvp, b4 Cabrera did that it hadn't been done in 45 years, it's a very rare and beautiful achievement, if ohtani actually led in any pitching or hitting category I would understand, but he's gonna have to wait til next season if bad man vlad Jr actually completes the TC
@@bagoboy2446 generally... I would agree. But, Otani is literally doing something that's NEVER been done before. He should be the biggest story in all of sports! Imagine if he were doing this in NY... It would literally be all we hear about. But, he's on the Angels... Who suck. He's dominant on the mound... 100mph fastball. Hits a ton of bombs... Drives in runs. STEALS bases! He's a one man show. There's never been anyone like him. He has fallen off a bit since the All-Star break and Vlady has stepped it up. Either way... Between those two, Tatis... And my Giants. It's been such a fun season. We'll see how it all turns out.
Rob is trippin. Ohtani is an Ace. His stuff is rediculous. And Ohtani revived the league. They wouldnt even be debating this if it weren't for people wanting to hear about ohtani. He is literally the most valuable player in the whole league $$$$
Let me put very simply- If Shohei Ohtani does NOT win the MVP this year- there are only two possible explanations: 1.) Shohei is being given his own seperate award. 2.) Shohei is found to be chemically “enhanced” The guy is 2 ALL STAR players in one!!! VLAD JR is not even a good defensive player so he is JUST a hitter. Imagine if Dion Sanders made the Pro Bowl as a WR too! Imagine if Pat Mahomes was a dynamic pass-rusher with 15 sacks!! Imagine if Ray Lewis also rushed for 1600 yards in a season. This is NOT a debate, this is a man providing more VALUE in a team sport then anyone has, ever!!
@John Anderson don't be such a hater man, I agree with u he strikes out too much , but that's how baseball is played now. and I have no idea why your bringing up Brady Anderson. if you mean to say he only hit so many hrs once, I suggest you look at vlad Jr stats from the previous 2 seasons, they are very comparable to ohtani. vlad Jr would be mvp any other yr but a guy with a 3.3 Era 9 wins and such a high strike ratio while pitching, then he is top 10 in all major hitting stats. you have to be an idiot to think otherwise
@John Anderson 1. Nobody is claiming that Shohei is a better hitter than anyone in the AL. Just that he’s a premier top 10 level hitter, and that is plain by the numbers and added to his all-star level pitching- means he is easily the MVP. 2. Two- Brady Anderson hitting 50 hr doesn’t make 50 hr less significant. It means that Brady Anderson had 1 great season perhaps aided by steroids, and then finished his career without ever approaching those numbers again. What does that have to do with the accomplishment itself? It seems that you can’t grasp the absurdity of Ohtani if you could make an argument that anyone else deserves MVP. If you work for a company and you are doing the job of 2 different employees at high level management positions- then you would be justified in demanding salary that is double what an individual manager would make., Ohtani could demand more than 50 million a year for his services, since at minimum he is two seperate 25 million/yr players!!
@John Anderson 1. I’m honest enough to consider where my analogy falls short, so enlighten me. 2. The award is not the Most outstanding hitter award- that should go to VLAD JR- hands down. It’s Most valuable- that should (in my opinion) include all the possible avenues of contribution, certainly defense and in Ohtani’s case- pitching!! I very much comprende what you are saying but I think that you feel that if there is a hitter who is clearly better than an offensive player, he cannot win the MVP- and I think there is nothing about the definition of the award that suggests that conclusion.
They are both great players. But the BIGGER PICTURE is Ohtani brought a NEW ERA in baseball that was a sport in decline. For those who didn’t watch baseball or lost interest came to watch. Also internationally MLB became a topic. Ohtani has been GREAT FOR BASEBALL and not only for own statistics. A MLB 2021 without Ohtani would be just another year of baseball for those who still watched baseball…⚾️👍🏻
Are you kidding Ohtani’s been getting walked like 20 times more than Vlad with 60 less at bats with no hitters around him. He’s MVP. Vlad might not even be the best player on his team. Semian has similar numbers to Vlad and carries the team just as much as him.
Thing to note is he said Rodgers and not Brady, and I’d like to think it means while his team isn’t winning it all, he’s a huge talent and has a huge impact for his team.
ohtani be hitting and pitching since the beginning of the season. he’s slown down, but his numbers aren’t “inflated”. We’ve had triple crowns multiple times before. The last guy who pitched and bat was babe and he’s an icon.
The Jays are loaded and the Angels have been playing their 2nds half the season with all the injuries they have had this season. If it wasnt for Shoei the Angels would be the worst team in the league. Seriously
Shoheis play in the past two months has taken him down in the MVP race. He still has time to make up some ground but it’s going to be difficult. He’ll probably still win but not if he plays like he has been
It’s so hard to do rob? Haha that’s your logic? What’s harder to do? Get triple crown or hit and pitch at this level? You said it yourself, triple crown 2012... but the last time someone hit and pitched like this was babe Ruth? Your logic is terrible!
You really think Ohtani can last another year without getting injured? he hit a wall a month back and come on he has 45 home runs and his 3.30 ERA may not sound that good but Cole and Ray who are the front runners for CY Young this year have 3.03 and 2.72 ERAs more importantly he is on a 3 million contract playing both ways maybe next year but after next season there is a MLB Executive who will have to think about paying 100s of millions to a guy who will probably argue the same way argue average batting stats and average pitching stats/ and risk of getting injured
Vlad is by far the superior hitting, it’s not even close lmao. The only reason ohtani will win is because he’s pitching as well, but does that mean every year he does this he’ll be the mvp?
@@lizardman1303 honestly if ohtani was being judged strictly as a hitter he’d still be a contender for mvp, prolly top 5-10, but vlad would be consensus mvp pick by all. Also I feel like everyone fell in love with ohtani from the beginning and they aren’t looking at his 2nd half let down, he’s not the same guy he was at beginning of season, whereas vlad has just taken off since August, while performing the whole year
Vlad has protection. What does Shohei have? His team sucks. He has the most wins for pitching on his team. Think about that for a second. Most wins as a pitcher for his team. What else does he need to do?
@@willc5023 hes not even close to being a Cy Young candidate. He's not getting mvp dude, he went 0-4 again last night. There zero chance he gets it with a 250 average it's not happening. Give it up, it's over.
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People is underrating Ohtani because people don't understand his pitching contribution. He threw 123 innings in 22 games, and has 3.28 ERA. This is as good as Clayton Kershaw.
He is like Kershaw and Tatis Jr in one package. Ohtani is the MVP. No doubt.
The last guy to win the triple crown was Cabrera in 2012, it doesn't happen often. The last guy to have such an impact on the mound and at the plate was 100+ years! You're right Rob this doesn't happen often! Ohtani MVP!
@John Anderson bad team doesn’t mean he’s not MVP material. Winning matters, but the term MVP is most valuable player. His own impact should be measured, not his teams impact.
@John Anderson That's true. Because he's gonna play more and have more time to have a bigger impact in the season than Ohtani. If the Angels were better it'd help Ohtani with his MVP candidacy. Either that or Ohtani has to turn it up hard these next few games.
If Shohei was on a better team and his team made the playoffs, with all the stats and numbers he has currently, we wouldn't be having this discussion. So making the playoffs can't be the prerequisite or determining factor for this topic. Sometimes Shohei is his own damn run support. The Angels just aren't that good. They wouldn't be talked about as much as they are if it wasn't for Shohei. We're not talking Silver Slugger who gets it, Shohei or Vlad. One does a lot more at more positions on the field than the other.
@John Anderson The award will be given to one of them regardless of what any of us think, including Chris and Rob. Guess we'll just have to wait and see now won't we? Appreciate the dialogue mate!
39 triple crown in mlb history, and only Ruth & ohtani in mlb history
Let Vlad pitch and win one game. Then will have a conversation
Hitting, pitching, running, Shohei is the MVP.
Don’t forget Defense.
2.50 batting average lmao
No doubt! Case closed
Wtf over vlad r u kidding me?
@@SouthJerzVillains Let me know when Vlad starts pitching, is 9-2, and struck out 100 batters on top of hitting.
The fact that the Angels are so bad makes Ohtani's record on the mound even more impressive.
Leave it to rob Parker to knit pick shohei not being the ace lol
Shohei is the ace on the Angels team... now people could say the Angels are a bad team .... but then that is the same thing they blast Shohei for being on team that isnt winning
Smh 😂🤣😂🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡 Rob Parker at it again.... Otheni has no kinda help and having a once in a life time season 🤔🤔🤔... He's the MVP who cares about the record
Ask vlad jr to go pitch 6 innings then try to hit a hr, then come talk to me rob..
💯💯💯
This definitely a classic debate 😂💯🦾
People who hate Ohtani don’t know baseball
Tell vlad to go pitch & hit… he probably can’t get 10hr… there is 39 triple crown in mlb history but only 2 can do what ohtani can do…
Give him the Babe Ruth price and please shut up!
Good fact
Tbh people get too wrapped up in the whole gimmick of pitching and hitting. He’s a good pitcher, really good power hitter but just not as impactful.
@@lindenmcdiarmid2009 good enough to have a 9 and 2 record on a team 6 games under 500
and yeah his 256 Batting average is low.... but then Vladi has a league leading 320 batting, average
That is not low to you compared to watching people make a run at 400 in the past?
dude has 45 home runs
and a 3.30 ERA
so yeah you can go after him for a high ERA but then the front runners for the Cy Young this year are Cole and Ray who have 3.03 and 2.72 ERAs respectively
maybe just maybe every ones numbers are down in Batting Averages and up in ERA this year...
6000 players in MLB history have struck out 100 batters in a season
350 have hit over 40 home runs in a season
no one has ever done both together in a season
22,000 baseball players in history MLB
no one has ever hit 40 home runs and pitched 20 games
heck no one has ever hit 30 home runs and pitched 15 games
stop with the bias....
@@davidright1398 it’s impressive, I’m not saying he shouldn’t be MVP but he’s just overrated, he’d be better if he tried to hit for contact more than just home runs.
There are 9 players on the field and 9 people who bat. Vlad is not winning the games by himself the same as Shohei is not losing the games. Shohei is probably the main reason the angels have as many wins as they do because of the offensive/defensive aspects. Shohei Ohtani is the only man in baseball who can win a game by himself by pitching shutouts and bombing homers. Not to mention the whole 1st since BABE RUTH thing. Think about that.
Vlad is their best player wtf u talking about
@@CarolCityCane305 Yeah the best player, but he's not the only player. There is nothing Vlad is doing on defense that is amazing it's not even gold glove worthy is wtf I am talking about. Saying he is more deserving because he is on a team that has a better record would be idiotic.
@@genxthings since when does defense give you the mvps? And what defense does ohtani do?
@@CarolCityCane305 Did you just ask what Ohtani does? Really????? I'm done here.
Shohei is definitely mvp
Agree
Ohtani is the MVP. And a big reason why the Jays are playing in meaningful games this September is because of the rest of the lineup and the rotation and the bullpen. Ohtani is the MVP, no question.
Vladdy Jr can be a triple crown winner and he’s not the MVP ??? Lmao ohtani is amazing but Vladdy should def be closing the gap cause of his play and the fact the Jays are a playoff contending team. Angels are trash
@@97NikeSb ted Williams won the Triple Crown twice and didn’t win MVP. And look at the Angels roster. Of course that team is below 500 (barely)
@@salvatoresultana4058 what happen when Miggy won the triple crown and the tigers went to the playoffs? Trout came in 2nd and the next miggy had better numbers than the year before and again won it. Voters have set the precedent that you don’t have to make the playoffs but if a players with similar numbers has a team in the playoffs they’ll more than likely win it. Miggy twice, Altuve, and Donaldson
@@97NikeSb you’re comparing a rookie having a really good debut season to a legit two-way player. That is like comparing apples to hamburger meat.
@@salvatoresultana4058 Trout had the best rookie season and did better the next season. Trout was being touted as the best player in the league after his rookie season. Even when he did put up numbers as he usually did guys with similar numbers and on contenders would take it
Shohei can field too
VLAD is best 1st baseman
People are really underestimating Ohtani's season. Are people really that blind? 100 years folks. Hasn't been done in 100 years. I'm just going to leave it at that.
LETS COMPARE THE PITCHING. LETS SEE VLAD PITCHING STATS?
@John Anderson that’s the point. MVP you have to consider everything lol.
“Oh he doesn’t pitch so we can’t compare that” is even more dumb. If he doesn’t pitch, he loses fully on that and now we gotta consider that to be a huge part.
@John Anderson but he is an above average pitcher and batter who else has done what he’s doing?
Batting average and RBI’s are not a good argument lol
EXACTLY
Only saying that cuz shohei is losing in that argument lmao
@@SouthJerzVillains admit it vlad just had a hot streak if he gets 8 more home runs ok give him mvp but no it’s shohei shohei will get 47-48 home runs 100 rbi 10-2 as a pitcher and 3.1 era vlad will have more rbi cuz his team has a better lineup
@@SouthJerzVillains no, batting average and RBI’s are bad stats in general. Vlad is definitely a better hitter than Shohei, but Shohei is still great. He has a 154 wRC+ which is amazing, vlad is better by quite a bit at 169, but Shohei is also an elite pitcher
This was the last chance for Rob to show me he isn't a complete clown, and he failed miserably. How does the guy have a baseball HOF vote??? Ridiculous. I literally only watch for Broussard
Rob Parker is the worst sports anylyst in business
You know you might have a point, but on the wrong topic, I actually think Rob is 100% right, there's no way a triple crown winner doesn't win the mvp, b4 Cabrera did that it hadn't been done in 45 years, it's a very rare and beautiful achievement, if ohtani actually led in any pitching or hitting category I would understand, but he's gonna have to wait til next season if bad man vlad Jr actually completes the TC
@@bagoboy2446 generally... I would agree. But, Otani is literally doing something that's NEVER been done before. He should be the biggest story in all of sports! Imagine if he were doing this in NY... It would literally be all we hear about. But, he's on the Angels... Who suck. He's dominant on the mound... 100mph fastball. Hits a ton of bombs... Drives in runs. STEALS bases! He's a one man show. There's never been anyone like him. He has fallen off a bit since the All-Star break and Vlady has stepped it up. Either way... Between those two, Tatis... And my Giants. It's been such a fun season. We'll see how it all turns out.
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@@Markus56165 , agree
Rob is trippin. Ohtani is an Ace. His stuff is rediculous. And Ohtani revived the league. They wouldnt even be debating this if it weren't for people wanting to hear about ohtani. He is literally the most valuable player in the whole league $$$$
Put Ohtani on the Blue Jays and they’ll have 10 extra wins, put Vlad on the Angels and they’ll have 10 less wins…..there’s your mvp
Let me put very simply- If Shohei Ohtani does NOT win the MVP this year- there are only two possible explanations:
1.) Shohei is being given his own seperate award.
2.) Shohei is found to be chemically “enhanced”
The guy is 2 ALL STAR players in one!!!
VLAD JR is not even a good defensive player so he is JUST a hitter.
Imagine if Dion Sanders made the Pro Bowl as a WR too! Imagine if Pat Mahomes was a dynamic pass-rusher with 15 sacks!! Imagine if Ray Lewis also rushed for 1600 yards in a season. This is NOT a debate, this is a man providing more VALUE in a team sport then anyone has, ever!!
@John Anderson is vlad Jr good enough to pitch at all? shohei having a bad month and still 2nd in homeruns! wow
@John Anderson don't be such a hater man, I agree with u he strikes out too much , but that's how baseball is played now.
and I have no idea why your bringing up Brady Anderson.
if you mean to say he only hit so many hrs once, I suggest you look at vlad Jr stats from the previous 2 seasons, they are very comparable to ohtani.
vlad Jr would be mvp any other yr but a guy with a 3.3 Era 9 wins and such a high strike ratio while pitching, then he is top 10 in all major hitting stats. you have to be an idiot to think otherwise
@John Anderson 1. Nobody is claiming that Shohei is a better hitter than anyone in the AL. Just that he’s a premier top 10 level hitter, and that is plain by the numbers and added to his all-star level pitching- means he is easily the MVP.
2. Two- Brady Anderson hitting 50 hr doesn’t make 50 hr less significant. It means that Brady Anderson had 1 great season perhaps aided by steroids, and then finished his career without ever approaching those numbers again. What does that have to do with the accomplishment itself?
It seems that you can’t grasp the absurdity of Ohtani if you could make an argument that anyone else deserves MVP. If you work for a company and you are doing the job of 2 different employees at high level management positions- then you would be justified in demanding salary that is double what an individual manager would make., Ohtani could demand more than 50 million a year for his services, since at minimum he is two seperate 25 million/yr players!!
@John Anderson
1. I’m honest enough to consider where my analogy falls short, so enlighten me.
2. The award is not the Most outstanding hitter award- that should go to VLAD JR- hands down. It’s Most valuable- that should (in my opinion) include all the possible avenues of contribution, certainly defense and in Ohtani’s case- pitching!! I very much comprende what you are saying but I think that you feel that if there is a hitter who is clearly better than an offensive player, he cannot win the MVP- and I think there is nothing about the definition of the award that suggests that conclusion.
@@shafer.chris.2244 maybe he should get the cy young instead of the mvp
Did Rob even research someone has won the triple crown and not won the MVP
BRO ROB DIDNT EVEN RESEARCH THIS LET ME COME ON ONE SHOW AND SCHOOL HIM OMG
They are both great players. But the BIGGER PICTURE is Ohtani brought a NEW ERA in baseball that was a sport in decline. For those who didn’t watch baseball or lost interest came to watch. Also internationally MLB became a topic. Ohtani has been GREAT FOR BASEBALL and not only for own statistics. A MLB 2021 without Ohtani would be just another year of baseball for those who still watched baseball…⚾️👍🏻
Your lying to yourself ohtani was exposed at the all star game btw who won the all star game mvp?
Are you kidding Ohtani’s been getting walked like 20 times more than Vlad with 60 less at bats with no hitters around him. He’s MVP. Vlad might not even be the best player on his team. Semian has similar numbers to Vlad and carries the team just as much as him.
Chris said ohtani is like Rodgers and Ray Lewis balled up into one, so in other words he's the best hitter and pitcher in the MLB 🤔😲
Exactly even tho it’s spectacular to see, you can’t compare to two people who could arguably be the best players at their position at any given time
Thing to note is he said Rodgers and not Brady, and I’d like to think it means while his team isn’t winning it all, he’s a huge talent and has a huge impact for his team.
ohtani be hitting and pitching since the beginning of the season. he’s slown down, but his numbers aren’t “inflated”. We’ve had triple crowns multiple times before. The last guy who pitched and bat was babe and he’s an icon.
This isn't a debate lmao
Just trying to make an argument out of nothing
It's Shohei Otanis MVP
Broussard a different person when he the lead lmao.. Hahah got a little stephan a in him when he runs the mike
The Jays are loaded and the Angels have been playing their 2nds half the season with all the injuries they have had this season. If it wasnt for Shoei the Angels would be the worst team in the league. Seriously
stop crying
@@carlosbrazao6039 Yea, that wasn't crying. He was just posting facts. Are you watching the MLB or triple A ball?
Rob Parker is truth seeker and a HERO!
LOL he is full of BS...
He isnt speak the truth said no one has won the triple crown and not won the mvp. Its happened like 5 times
Shoheis play in the past two months has taken him down in the MVP race. He still has time to make up some ground but it’s going to be difficult. He’ll probably still win but not if he plays like he has been
ohtani is -5000 bro its over
He can miss the rest of the season and still be unanimous. The stats are too fictional at this point to consider anyone else.
Or Salvador Perez!
IDK what's happen to Vladdy's Tripple Crown and Getting to playoffs 😂😂
Way to completely ignore the fact that shohei ask pitches. When is vlad doing that?
2:40 rob Parker know he bout to say some bs... haha lol just arguing to argue
Naw is ohtani's year. Pitchers are walking Shohei and dude! OHTANI IS PITCHING! VLAD AINT!
It’s so hard to do rob? Haha that’s your logic? What’s harder to do? Get triple crown or hit and pitch at this level? You said it yourself, triple crown 2012... but the last time someone hit and pitched like this was babe Ruth? Your logic is terrible!
If Vlad Jr. wins it, would the Guerrero's be the first family in MLB history to have multiple generations of MVP's???
How bout this neither of them should be MVP
Who then?
Sounds about white
If Toronto goes to the Playoffs then yeah give it to Vlad if they don't I'd give it to Salvador Pérez.
@@DavidTorres-zp1ef no I bet it’s shohei you will see
@@scoobybaseball8870 think the pitching stats will get him the MVP nod
So, is Ohtani gonna win every year because he is pitching and batting ?
You really think Ohtani can last another year without getting injured? he hit a wall a month back
and come on he has 45 home runs
and his 3.30 ERA may not sound that good but Cole and Ray who are the front runners for CY Young this year have 3.03 and 2.72 ERAs
more importantly he is on a 3 million contract playing both ways
maybe next year
but after next season there is a MLB Executive who will have to think about paying 100s of millions to a guy
who will probably argue the same way
argue average batting stats and average pitching stats/ and risk of getting injured
Vlad jr has a chance. His batting average is way better than Ohtani
Plus he isn't top three in striking out at the plate.
so you telling me othani is going to be mvp every season cuz he is going to pitch and hit every season
That’s an advantage he has going for himself
@@antoniokim8033 I thought pitchers had they own award "CY YOUNG" he should be getting cy-young, soon will field a ground ball and gets gold glove too
Im 100% will Rob
VLADDY MVP 🇩🇴💁🏽♂️
I'm with Rob on this one.
PREACH ROB PARKER!!!!!
Vlad is the AL MVP
Vlad is by far the superior hitting, it’s not even close lmao. The only reason ohtani will win is because he’s pitching as well, but does that mean every year he does this he’ll be the mvp?
How do u think he would do if he just hit
@@lizardman1303 honestly if ohtani was being judged strictly as a hitter he’d still be a contender for mvp, prolly top 5-10, but vlad would be consensus mvp pick by all. Also I feel like everyone fell in love with ohtani from the beginning and they aren’t looking at his 2nd half let down, he’s not the same guy he was at beginning of season, whereas vlad has just taken off since August, while performing the whole year
@@lizardman1303 don’t forget team success as well
Vlad has protection. What does Shohei have? His team sucks. He has the most wins for pitching on his team. Think about that for a second. Most wins as a pitcher for his team. What else does he need to do?
Love Shohei but he hasn’t hit in over a month. Dude lost his stroke after the all star game. MVP is for the whole season not half.
Vlad is the MVP. Shohei's hitting sucks
lol hes pitching like a monster so just stop
@@willc5023 hes not even close to being a Cy Young candidate. He's not getting mvp dude, he went 0-4 again last night. There zero chance he gets it with a 250 average it's not happening.
Give it up, it's over.
Guerrero should win
Aaron Judge is up there too
Really
No he isn’t.
No