Without good splash damage. Units like Marauders and Roaches would just skyrocket in value. Also, thank god Trigger did not go disruptors. That game would have ended faster if he did
@@jommsnowyour right some would not those units though LOL. Roaches kinda of but its marines and libs. The main reason vikings and libs are op against toss is cause storm just doesn’t hit as hard as para bomb.
I think the splash damage should either be less lethal, or harder to pull off. Storms and nukes are definitely not easy to pull off so they are cool. But baneling and disruptors are just too easy that it “cheapens” the games somewhat.
@rattusgrenadus8291 It's funny you call out people for mental issue just because they point out you suck at math. Which you definitely do. That's kind of... "crazy"! 😄😄😄😄
I think Clem has had everything but mental resilience for a long time already. He looks a bit introverted, shy, if he can stay confident in his abilities he can totally win a lot of offline tournaments
That was last night's game right? It was a close game though. Maru took a gamble in the final game to take it 2-1@@KaratePathI think Clem is fixing his TvT in a major way and he's slowly inching closer to the best TvT player of the current era.
@@Justbleed434 ye but first game also overextended vs Cyclone... I just think he needs to fix his weakest matchup, being Terran is the most popular race
Clem IS great. Terran IS OP. especially so in the late game, which is why Toss and Zerg both try to end games against Terran early, because otherwise their chance of success drops off. Recent nerfs (i.e. double baneling nerfs) have made this even harder. Thus Clem goes from being GREAT, to arguably BEST. theres only about 12 players to really compare him to, but when he starts consistently beating them after years of not (regularly) beating them... Terran OP.
@@calmsouls4502 that's like saying being tired of watching ling queen every Zerg game. And worse, watching Zerg being basically untouchable with 100 supply of 70 drones, 10 queens and 20 lings on 4 bases at 5th minute.
Lowko: “Check out this up and coming player, they’re making some good improvements. Maybe I should feature them some more!” Also Lowko: “Guys, check out this sick Dark vs Clem match it’s crazy.” lol love u Lowko, keep these Clem and top player matches coming, love to watch them!
American here 🇺🇸🇺🇸 you can play the Dutch national anthem at the start of each cast, it's the oldest in the world too. Sure, the Hollandaise have a bit of brand confusion for foreigners, but otherwise the Nether Regions seems like a really lovely set of countries! ❤️
I've wondered a few times if the game being played at very high speed just aggravates splash damage kabooms (12:27). A lower speed would put more emphasis on the strategy side of things vs the micro side?
Finally a not just canceroius simpack addikts' push! I wonder that, if Trigger could mix tempests in his armi, dealing with the liberators, how this match would have ended. I wonder if Clem still plays Squadron TD. I haven't seen him for monts there.
Am I getting tired of watching Clem? Am I getting tired of watching the world’s best StarCraft player? Am I getting tired of actually watching serral get beaten? No, no I am not.
Widow Mines are the "weakest" of the three so to say since they are quite easy to split against and then they die almost instantly since they need to be burrowed to fire. Banelings are relatively fast and usually used en masse and are super easy to mass really quickly. Disruptors are a "fire-and-forget" unit since it can move away after firing.
Widow mines are legit the strongest what are on about Banelings never trade cost efficiently outside of zvz best case is an even trade. Widow mines are by far the hardest to split against and work both at harrasing and main fight. Disruptors really only made for the sake of disurptors in pvz. Pvp you lose mobility Pvt only made cause its the only form of reliable splash damage. The only reason widow mines aren’t made in tvt is cause scvs have an extra 5 hp.
Hot take. Widow mines are also cheap and don’t require a lot of micro. You can split if you have the apm and can see everywhere on the map at the same time
@@akungfustudent79 Banelings are not the worst after the nerfs; they just require being used with brain. Like most zerg units, they are spamable, and that's their strenght.
I'm wondering why people find a baneling with +2 melee oneshotting workers is too strong but vanilla widow mines doing the same to probes and surviving this to do it later again is not. Besides, the widow mine can do it way earlier as well. What is the reasoning behind?
Very impressive match from Trigger. As a Clem absolute fanboy, I can't say I'm not happy to see him win and massacre his opponent. But I do appreciate the fact that a "new" player is rising and playing this kind of impressive, "sure to lose but sure to learn out of" game.
Not sure if you "asked" asked at the start of the video, but not getting tired one bit of Clem. First because I'm french so there is a teensie bit of favoritism here, but you also sound more enthousiast when casting certain players, and Clem is among them.
Everyone saying terran op over a clem game is simply insane . Clem took games off serral and reynor with his Protoss brother . The kid is just talented😊
Increase vidow mines suplly count or reduce range by one or third solution make them pricer cuz they are essentially free right now what you guys think?
Why was Clem flying his factory around 11:57 in the top middle side of the map? Lowko just casually looked at it like two times, and didn't say anything. Is this some kind of strategy?
Terrans usually determine the amount of production structures they build by the army composition they are going to go for and later on into the game when they switch their army composition some structures become unnecessary. So they place them somewhere around the map to grant them vision because they no longer want to use them and they might as well provide some value. You can see this with the mech playstyle very often. Players usually float their first barracks to a place they want to get vision of because you only build the barracks to build factories and maybe some marines in the early game if you want to feel a bit safer. They are quite tanky for their price and if you lose it you can build another one for just 150 minerals.
I really like trigger playstyle but he doesn’t know when to pull the TRIGGER. He knows its a bad engangment but feels like his hand is forced. He has so much potential and if he could just learn to be a bit more patient I think he could rivel hero and maxpax
Isn’t the Protoss counterpart of the window mine the Disruptur? But it needs more tech, more supply, more expensive and more time to produce? They both can move around, the disruptor has longer range but easier to dodge their shot, while the widow mine has a shorter range but almost instant shot, plus it’s cloaked AND shots air too. I like Clems games, but Maxpax and Raynor’s Protoss as well. I still believe the units are unbalanced for the protoss though. The widow mines, the ghost being a really good units against protoss. Protoss are fewer in numbers due to higher cost and supply units, so they are more vulnerable to a EMP shots. High templars are really a good unit but the ghost is faster and has cloak. Plus EMP damage Protoss buildings too.
I really feel you talking about the abundance of splash damage in SC2. Units like the Disruptor, Banelings, Widow Mine, they feel like they were put in the game because it was intended as an E-sport, so they can create those big "WHOA!" moments for the crowd like you said. But it doesn't make it fun to play against, they're units that require comparatively little skill and attention to use versus the skill and attention needed to take care of them, and all it takes is a split second of not paying attention or a single misclick and they blow up half your army. That said, I could see the Disruptor being heavily nerfed to kill armies less quickly, but I dunno if the Widow Mine can or should be fixed. Given that Terrans have so many other ways to harass enemy worker lines, protect their choke points, and deal splash damage, would the loss of the Widow Mine mean all that much? Maybe against clumped-up air units, but I'd sooner buff the Liberator's AtA
I think the game will win a lot if mines, disruptors and banelings were to be erased and then rebalance without 'em. Anyway, making the mine more supply heavy, as was done with the disruptor, would do wonders.
Clem is a great player, no denying it. Zerg and Toss both facing constant nerfs over several patches might also explain Clem's "jump" to new heights. A great player suddenly faces less resistance, and viola, championships!
The main reason people are mad isn’t so much the buff itself its the thought. They said there are too many explosions and game ending damage so they are nerfing disurptors and banelings Then widow mines fall under that same exact category and yet got buffed. Terran feels excluded or favored and thats why people are mad. What has the buff done? Make the mines more microable and increase chance they make it out alive for drops. Lots of new tricks you can do with the buff actually.
Prior to Christmas a Clem is Dark game showed Widow mines unborrowing in time to evade viles..... it's also a safer way to get out of harassing workers
@@Name-ru1kt wasn't that the intention though? Sc2 is a very skill based game; only the best/fastest players will be able to make use of it in situations that matter. But I can see how the other races might befeel upset out of principal. 🤷🏻♂️
@@jesusbarrera6916 I saw that game, Hats off to Clem for being able to micro at that speed during a macro game. Seems fair since lurkers can burrow/unburrow fast enough to avoid liberator siege.
Simon, I would love for you to learn the national anthem of every player's country and sing them at the start of the cast. France and Canada have beautiful anthems. No intro, just singing haha
"Advanced Ballistics, that's the range upgrade for those disruptors"
Don't give them any ideas Lowko.
A movespeed upgrade for the Novas would actually be interesting.
Terrifying and something I don't want to see, but interesting.
Keep the Clem videos coming. he's a monster
No, I'm not getting tired of watching clem
Lowko: I want less splash damage in all of SC2
Also Lowko: I love nukes, let’s see some nukes 😂
Well, nukes are hype.
I also find it funny he doesn't mind storms.. it triggers my ptsd when I see or hear storm.😢
Without good splash damage. Units like Marauders and Roaches would just skyrocket in value. Also, thank god Trigger did not go disruptors. That game would have ended faster if he did
@@jommsnowyour right some would not those units though LOL. Roaches kinda of but its marines and libs.
The main reason vikings and libs are op against toss is cause storm just doesn’t hit as hard as para bomb.
I think the splash damage should either be less lethal, or harder to pull off. Storms and nukes are definitely not easy to pull off so they are cool. But baneling and disruptors are just too easy that it “cheapens” the games somewhat.
Can we get more games from Trigger? Man fought like a demon in this match.
50 Factorial Would be a LOT of liberators
50 factorial is
50! = 50 x 49 x 48 x ... x 1
@rattusgrenadus8291 and 2³ is 6 right?!?
@rattusgrenadus8291 lmfao
@rattusgrenadus8291 It's funny you call out people for mental issue just because they point out you suck at math. Which you definitely do.
That's kind of... "crazy"! 😄😄😄😄
@rattusgrenadus8291 You should learn what a factorial is. Pro-tip: 50! is not 50. :)
From Vietnam with love
Ive been watching this channel for years
Still love it
Hey Lowko, i just want to thank you for casting so many sc2 games. you and your work is highly appreciated!
Never get tired of Clem games!
never tired to watch clem ^^
Ive never played starcraft, but your videos got reccomended to me and ive just been watching them for a few weeks now. Clem is my favorite lol
Clem's going for the crown, i'm pretty sure he'll get it
Clem has looked like a beast the last couple of months.
Its like him and Serral now
I think Clem has had everything but mental resilience for a long time already. He looks a bit introverted, shy, if he can stay confident in his abilities he can totally win a lot of offline tournaments
he just lost today to Maru tho ... a bit of a letdown tbh, he needs his TvT better
That was last night's game right? It was a close game though. Maru took a gamble in the final game to take it 2-1@@KaratePathI think Clem is fixing his TvT in a major way and he's slowly inching closer to the best TvT player of the current era.
@@Justbleed434 ye but first game also overextended vs Cyclone... I just think he needs to fix his weakest matchup, being Terran is the most popular race
You start every video with the Team America song LOL
I'm not tired of Clem at all. I'm tired of people downplaying his incredibly great level of playing by saying Terran OP...
Terran OP nerf widow
Clem IS great. Terran IS OP. especially so in the late game, which is why Toss and Zerg both try to end games against Terran early, because otherwise their chance of success drops off. Recent nerfs (i.e. double baneling nerfs) have made this even harder. Thus Clem goes from being GREAT, to arguably BEST. theres only about 12 players to really compare him to, but when he starts consistently beating them after years of not (regularly) beating them... Terran OP.
Not tired of Clem, but I am tired of marine medevac every game. I see he does liberators, I clicc fastt
@@calmsouls4502 that's like saying being tired of watching ling queen every Zerg game. And worse, watching Zerg being basically untouchable with 100 supply of 70 drones, 10 queens and 20 lings on 4 bases at 5th minute.
Terran is OP. Doesn’t mean that clem isn’t fantastic
15:27
Yeah thats absolutely 100% accurate totally truly
Oops! 😂
Lowko: “Check out this up and coming player, they’re making some good improvements. Maybe I should feature them some more!”
Also Lowko: “Guys, check out this sick Dark vs Clem match it’s crazy.”
lol love u Lowko, keep these Clem and top player matches coming, love to watch them!
in all my years of playing starcraft (since 1998) i have never seen a more perfect worker kiss then at 1:03
Amazing pvt, as a main toss both played so good and entertaining to watch
That match was liberating
American here 🇺🇸🇺🇸 you can play the Dutch national anthem at the start of each cast, it's the oldest in the world too. Sure, the Hollandaise have a bit of brand confusion for foreigners, but otherwise the Nether Regions seems like a really lovely set of countries! ❤️
anthem of the winner at the end would be nice XD
Love the scouting probe lol. kisses an SCV, zaps a supply depot once, then leaves
We love Clem!
Lowko is the definition of fun
I've wondered a few times if the game being played at very high speed just aggravates splash damage kabooms (12:27). A lower speed would put more emphasis on the strategy side of things vs the micro side?
Dude pls pls pls keep showing clem, he plays so good
Clem is the only person on serrals level and with the buff to widow mines, he can pass serral for sure
That scv and probe kiss made my day
When Clem hits puberty, he's going to be unstoppable.
A sunday video, love to see it!
Bro said “looking at his Minevec or on a minevaah e o e o” 😂 yoo i can’t… hahaha
I love watching terrain vids
More Clem more Clem more Clem!!! 🎉🎉🎉
Finally a not just canceroius simpack addikts' push! I wonder that, if Trigger could mix tempests in his armi, dealing with the liberators, how this match would have ended.
I wonder if Clem still plays Squadron TD. I haven't seen him for monts there.
Am I getting tired of watching Clem? Am I getting tired of watching the world’s best StarCraft player? Am I getting tired of actually watching serral get beaten? No, no I am not.
This
這集也很精彩喔，
還是想看看3v3沒合輯也行，加油主播。
Widow Mines are the "weakest" of the three so to say since they are quite easy to split against and then they die almost instantly since they need to be burrowed to fire. Banelings are relatively fast and usually used en masse and are super easy to mass really quickly. Disruptors are a "fire-and-forget" unit since it can move away after firing.
Widow mines are legit the strongest what are on about
Banelings never trade cost efficiently outside of zvz best case is an even trade.
Widow mines are by far the hardest to split against and work both at harrasing and main fight.
Disruptors really only made for the sake of disurptors in pvz. Pvp you lose mobility
Pvt only made cause its the only form of reliable splash damage. The only reason widow mines aren’t made in tvt is cause scvs have an extra 5 hp.
the opportunity / cost though. WM easily super best, banelings super worst, esp after functional nerfs.
Hot take. Widow mines are also cheap and don’t require a lot of micro. You can split if you have the apm and can see everywhere on the map at the same time
@@akungfustudent79 Banelings are not the worst after the nerfs; they just require being used with brain. Like most zerg units, they are spamable, and that's their strenght.
I'm wondering why people find a baneling with +2 melee oneshotting workers is too strong but vanilla widow mines doing the same to probes and surviving this to do it later again is not.
Besides, the widow mine can do it way earlier as well.
What is the reasoning behind?
Criminal how Lowko doesnt get more likes per views!!
American anthem at the beginning of every video is your BEST idea. Every red-blooded person would love it.
A name for the medivac on the minimap: The minivac 😀
Orbital command number 69…I see what you did there lowko
Very impressive match from Trigger.
As a Clem absolute fanboy, I can't say I'm not happy to see him win and massacre his opponent.
But I do appreciate the fact that a "new" player is rising and playing this kind of impressive, "sure to lose but sure to learn out of" game.
I like clem, his story is wholesome. It sucks that his era of greatness is contingent on the widow mine meta.
I wonder if lowko remembers that widow mines were supposed to originally be shredders
If Clem is popping, then Clem is popping.
Its the clemko channel!
We've literally had the Ghost from Carbot's cartoon. Only the medivac didn't come...
never tired of clem
Ghost is op when he blinked like 9 stalker to one shot and it survived lol
Not sure if you "asked" asked at the start of the video, but not getting tired one bit of Clem. First because I'm french so there is a teensie bit of favoritism here, but you also sound more enthousiast when casting certain players, and Clem is among them.
I am not tired of Clem, but i am tired of seeing Terran turtle for 80% of the game and just mass orbital commands
I cant get enough of Clem - he plays like leroy jenkins.
Comeon Lowko, post some of your first games! If you have any. It is my new years goal christmas present? Never surrender! Never give up!
great game!
Clem and Serall are my favorite players😊. Never tired of their games
Lowko still mad about the widow mines and ghosts lol
Tres belle game dommage que trigger n'est pas lance de transition aérienne 😢
We say it before the video anyway 😂😂😂
Everyone saying terran op over a clem game is simply insane . Clem took games off serral and reynor with his Protoss brother . The kid is just talented😊
Кто такой Триггер?
Почему Клем не аннигилировал его на пятой минуте?😂😂😂
Wow i cant believe clem got 3x10^64 liberators!!!!
No one's getting tired fam.
16:13 Why does Clem have so many scvs chilling in his main ? There are like at least 10
because he can afford it
Worker's rights. Keep in mind that Clem is french.
@@KoalicusMarsupialensis i’m too. I should have think about that, shame on me
Tired of the Clem videos? Yes. Immensely.
Increase vidow mines suplly count or reduce range by one or third solution make them pricer cuz they are essentially free right now what you guys think?
i need to see these guys play BAR, or at least have @Lowko cast some BAR games
Why was Clem flying his factory around 11:57 in the top middle side of the map? Lowko just casually looked at it like two times, and didn't say anything. Is this some kind of strategy?
Terrans usually determine the amount of production structures they build by the army composition they are going to go for and later on into the game when they switch their army composition some structures become unnecessary. So they place them somewhere around the map to grant them vision because they no longer want to use them and they might as well provide some value. You can see this with the mech playstyle very often. Players usually float their first barracks to a place they want to get vision of because you only build the barracks to build factories and maybe some marines in the early game if you want to feel a bit safer. They are quite tanky for their price and if you lose it you can build another one for just 150 minerals.
@@kahv6ck437 got it, love your detailed explanation!
@@AnonymousPerson-cu7yzyou're welcome :)
I really like trigger playstyle but he doesn’t know when to pull the TRIGGER. He knows its a bad engangment but feels like his hand is forced.
He has so much potential and if he could just learn to be a bit more patient I think he could rivel hero and maxpax
you could play the north korean anthem.
From what i see, clem has become more solid tactically. He can adapt much better to curve balls.
Does Dark feel ‘replaced’
I only want to see the best so keep it coming
Lowko
Yay for Canada being represented! Between Scarlett and Trigger, we actually get a decent amount of screen time on this channel :)
Isn’t the Protoss counterpart of the window mine the Disruptur? But it needs more tech, more supply, more expensive and more time to produce? They both can move around, the disruptor has longer range but easier to dodge their shot, while the widow mine has a shorter range but almost instant shot, plus it’s cloaked AND shots air too.
I like Clems games, but Maxpax and Raynor’s Protoss as well. I still believe the units are unbalanced for the protoss though. The widow mines, the ghost being a really good units against protoss. Protoss are fewer in numbers due to higher cost and supply units, so they are more vulnerable to a EMP shots. High templars are really a good unit but the ghost is faster and has cloak. Plus EMP damage Protoss buildings too.
看都是對戰玩法，不需要翻譯，謝謝主播，我們喜歡星海2，。
Would Colossus be the Protoss Lib? If so they're hellavalot weaker version comparatively.
More Clem
Nope we are not 😂
hahaha its fun hearing you cry about mines :) not like banes were overtuned at all...
No just Serral videos, because he's more likely to win so there is point of watching it 😅
Give me Clem any day of the week and I'll never be complaining
MURICA! MURICA! MURICA!
I feel like I'm watching the same Terran game over and over since the balance changes, T turtles up for a while, buncha orbitals, huge bank > win...
I really feel you talking about the abundance of splash damage in SC2. Units like the Disruptor, Banelings, Widow Mine, they feel like they were put in the game because it was intended as an E-sport, so they can create those big "WHOA!" moments for the crowd like you said. But it doesn't make it fun to play against, they're units that require comparatively little skill and attention to use versus the skill and attention needed to take care of them, and all it takes is a split second of not paying attention or a single misclick and they blow up half your army.
That said, I could see the Disruptor being heavily nerfed to kill armies less quickly, but I dunno if the Widow Mine can or should be fixed. Given that Terrans have so many other ways to harass enemy worker lines, protect their choke points, and deal splash damage, would the loss of the Widow Mine mean all that much? Maybe against clumped-up air units, but I'd sooner buff the Liberator's AtA
There was that one sick widow drop on a carrier army from awhile back that was massive
Widow mines are the easiest to harrass with... one less option is a big nerf for common worker line harassment
I think the game will win a lot if mines, disruptors and banelings were to be erased and then rebalance without 'em.
Anyway, making the mine more supply heavy, as was done with the disruptor, would do wonders.
American Anthem 🇺🇸 🦅🎆 DONT MESS WITH TEXAS🤠
Clem is a great player, no denying it. Zerg and Toss both facing constant nerfs over several patches might also explain Clem's "jump" to new heights. A great player suddenly faces less resistance, and viola, championships!
Hi! ^^
Is there a way for me as a viewer to find out how many people from my country watch your videos? 🤔
Clem playing all the OP Terran units. Mines and Ghost are ridiculous early/mid game and liberators OP late game.
GG
Show me the 50 liberator army
bring back khaydarin amulet.
America!!! F*ck yeah!!!
Are people really complaining about the unburrow speed increase? Please explain and showcase how this has impacted the pro level at all. 🧐
The main reason people are mad isn’t so much the buff itself its the thought. They said there are too many explosions and game ending damage so they are nerfing disurptors and banelings
Then widow mines fall under that same exact category and yet got buffed. Terran feels excluded or favored and thats why people are mad.
What has the buff done? Make the mines more microable and increase chance they make it out alive for drops. Lots of new tricks you can do with the buff actually.
Prior to Christmas a Clem is Dark game showed Widow mines unborrowing in time to evade viles..... it's also a safer way to get out of harassing workers
@@Name-ru1kt wasn't that the intention though? Sc2 is a very skill based game; only the best/fastest players will be able to make use of it in situations that matter.
But I can see how the other races might befeel upset out of principal. 🤷🏻♂️
@@jesusbarrera6916 I saw that game, Hats off to Clem for being able to micro at that speed during a macro game.
Seems fair since lurkers can burrow/unburrow fast enough to avoid liberator siege.
@@bobbobby8250 doesn't seem fair since Lurkers can't target liberators...
Because Clem....
Terran OP
Clemson got clap
Simon, I would love for you to learn the national anthem of every player's country and sing them at the start of the cast. France and Canada have beautiful anthems. No intro, just singing haha
Widow mines got buffed because terran players complain 24/7. Blizz got enough.
Lets gooo