How to hook up Lionel Legacy & M.T.H DCS together! (It's easier than you think)
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- Trainboy Robby tutorials episode 1:
This tutorial shows you how to hook up DCS & Legacy separately & together. It also shows you the basic locomotive adding procedures for each system.
Hey Robby. Love the part where you say "there's no way I'm going to sit here and not run trains."
Good video.
A very good tutorial on programming a DCS and a Legacy system. Explained very thorough. Thank you for your help and input. I just got my Legacy FA AA NYC set with a Powered B unit home. What I do is program each unit individually and then when I put them together I use a lash up. Then if I want to add more engines , I can just add more to the lash up. Right now I have 8 RF-16 Baldwins Legacy units lashed together and they all run smoothly. I also have 3 TMCC Aleghany steam engines lashed together and they run smooth too. I'm using the Cab 2 remote.
Real good explanation ❤
Well done very interesting
Excellent and very clearly done. Oh my ..., thank you. You made Eric look bad.
Great video.
Very well explained.
Hey got it! 👍🏻 did the same process of programming the engine with my DCS Rmote. Works beautifully. Thanks for a great video.
I'm soo confused. Is DCC the same thing as DCS? I really believe Lionel designers dropped the ball on all of this confusion regarding how to run trains. Bad idea in my opinion.
Those look like Banana connectors to me, so instead of screwing in wires to the terminals, audio Banana cables would work and look neater!
What if i dont want 2 use a transformer and tyu and just power bricks and the new Cab 1 L remote with base 3 new command center?
Very nice video, my question, I have DCS 4.3 version and Legacy 1.6 version. Hooked up them by DCS 50-1032 cable. Added TMCC engine to DCS remote and can't control the TMCC engine. It because old version of DCS remote? Thank you
Well good thing I have all MTH equipment lol
Although I haven’t had this problem myself, I’m hearing persistent rumors that the signals from both systems fight each other and it’s possible you will lose control of your MTH engine, especially if you have 2 or 3 Lionel engines and one MTH engine.
Thanks thats good to hear!
DCS version 4.3 for remote & TIU and Legacy version 1.52 for base and cab2 remote. New versions still have the same set-up, just they have some additional features mine do not. (i.e. Wi-Fi control for DCS and paragraph controls for Legacy).
Just as a word of advice, you don't want to go above 18 volts for power on your locomotives as it will make the electronics inside of the locomotive and DCS system wear out faster.
Except 18 volts is the standard power for three rail o scale. The DCS, LEGACY, and all DCS, TMCC, or LEGACY equipped locomotives have on board resistors to lower the voltage and amperage per the electronics requirements.
Great video. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for your time to make this video and sharing it.
Not a problem Rich Krill, I needed a video like this when I first got the systems but I couldn't find one. So it took me a really long time to figure it out.
If you ever wonder why your engines stop working it's because you're giving it too much power. 18V is all you need and no more than 19V.
Do you know if this method will work with Lionel’s Cab-1L remote and Base-1L? I’m trying this method right now and my MTH engine tries to run in conventional mode with no sounds. My DCS remote is on version 4.20
Edit:Never mind that, I narrowed it down to loose wiring. Have both my MTH and Lionel engines running on the same track. Thank you for the tutorial!
Do I need a tiu?
So good.
It’s not covered for dust. Brass can an Will patina over time. Moisture will enhance this issue. Love your video.
Robby,
I just found your video and watched it because I'm going to be doing the exact same thing. It's nice to know that both MTH and Lionel can be ran on the same track. I also found out from watching Eric of "Eric's Trains" here on youtube that TMCC, which I have now, can be ran by the DCS remote. Thanks for the instructional video.
Frank M.
Excellent Video! Everything was explained and shown clearly. I now know how to connect a DCS system w/TMCC. Kudos to you...
Does Lionel still make the #990 Legacy cab 2 control system currently in 2024?
Are the banana plugs on a Lionel fastrack terminal track section?
Good tutorial. At 25:00 I was finally able to see the handle on the red light side of the Z4000. Also with MTH up in the air, I may incorporating Lionel Legacy into my operating systems. Seems like Legacy has a few more steps than DCS but I’ll get use to it in time. 11/30/2020
Thank you so much for making this video. It is very helpful.
Great job. Quick,clean,to the point and no bs.....thumbs up
Excellent direction for DCS/legacy hook up
I’m really glad to have come across this video, I have order the legacy and DCS and the questions I had we’re answered watching the video ,very informative,and in plain English,like Einstein said if you can’t explain it simply you don’t know it well enough!
Explained perfectly 👍👍👍 thanks
Thank you for this very useful video
Great to see you back!
Thanks for making this video!
Solves the confusion i am having in hooking up both systems together.
What is the version of your dcs including the tiu, and legacy?
Nicely Done. How are tracks wired in blocks?
Very nice easy to understand and follow tutorial. I have use a Lionel ZW-L, MTH DCS to power three separate loops that do not connect or crossover with each other. Two loops are DCS while one I left Conventional. I assume I would need 3 wires coming from the common on Lionel Legacy with two going to output on DCS and the third going to the conventional track, is that correct? Thanks.
Cully Waggoner I have five loops separated and was wondering how to hook up legacy remote with MTH DCS using Zw-L transformer as well ,you seem to have similar set up wanted to ask what was the procedure for hook up?
very helpful video and easy to follow!
Thanks for reply!
Hooking up the two black wires, dcs & legacy to the tiu is what confused me.
IN your next video please show how to remove a legacy engine from the legacy remote.
I know how to remove a mth engine from the dcs remote, however please show this anyway.
Good to know pjasyl, I will make next weeks video a tutorial.
How do you run Conventional engines with this hook up? I have a lot of older engines and I run them also.
So how do you run Conventional with your Legacy and MTH?
There is a way to hook up DCS to run conventional engines, but I'm not to sure about Legacy. I will be doing a video on that likely in January or February.
I’m thinking about adding Legacy to my DCS system and your video is very informative and helpful, my question is when you have 2 loops of track, connected with 2 crossovers, do you need a DPDT center off switch to separate both loops? DCS engines get its information through the track and Lionel gets it direct to the engine.
Why did you use the throttle for track 2 ( green lamp side) as opposed to track 1 ( red lamp side)
Thanks in advance
Kerry
You dont need to separate the loops, DCS and Legacy units work together on the same track at the same time with no interference. I'm not sure why I used track 2's side, I just picked a side and went with it hehehe. I'm glad to hear this video was informative, and I hope it helps you in setting up your systems! I highly recommend adding Legacy to your layout, it is definitely worth it.
Yes I think so. I’ve started acquiring LionChief plus with Bluetooth and I have the Legacy Pennsy F3 AA coming and I hoping to get the Legacy H10 Coal hauler set from NICHOLAS SMITH, I just have to justify the price in my head. I’m going to call Joey tomorrow and see if he’ll just sell me the H10. Thanks again. By the way just for your information, I’m not young, I’m 73 and have been playing with trains for 50+ years, and I believe your never to old to learn. Have a good night.
Sean, just received my 990 today, and I noticed there’s 2 blue upgrade modules, one to upgrade the base to V1.6 and the Remote to V1.6 , so my question is do you do this before you pair the 2 systems together or after. Thanks.
I think it comes down to whether you want/need the latest version. I'm running mine on an older version, and didn't upgrade before I hooked everything up.
@@ghost_pine_film_productions can u show how to use the legacy mtg cable
But can you run a Lionel tmcc with the MTH remote ?
Yes there is a way, but you have to hook the TMCC command base to the TIU. It is a very finicky process and I found it's hard to get to work correctly.
Can you run Lionel and MTH on the same track
Yes, they will run and won't interfere with each other.
@@ghost_pine_film_productions 3 rail o scale right
@@ghost_pine_film_productions What track do you for your 3 rail o scale train.
@@305KSL Lionel Fastrack
@@ghost_pine_film_productions if Lionel from train land don’t show 3 rail o scale on cars what do I do. Let’s say for example if you go to Lionel cars and you go to a car from Lionel on train land and it doesn’t say 3 rail o scale what do I do.
Does this work on Weaver models? Such as a Weaver CP H1b?
Yes Grand Trunk Studios 2816, as long as it is TMCC equipt.
Trainboy Robby ok thanks I am just getting a heads up for getting a weaver engine
Ok
Everything was fine in your tutorial but there was one thing you did not show and that is you did not show how to operate a TMCC engine off of a Mike’s handheld and vice versa.