There's no point in moving off of Canning until either the arbitration deadline is here, or they sign a another legitimate starter to take over that 5 spot. Because he gives them an option if they they can't sign anyone, or trade for anyone ahead of time.
I've said several times Bummer had similar treatment from Snit as Jimenez did his first year. Snit refused to use Joe his first year so maybe we'll see better usage for bummer in 2025.
Already been an active off-season for this franchise. Looking forward to it being a productive free agency and I believe AA and the front office will do what’s in the best interest for getting us back to being a serious contender next season. #BravesCountry
If the Braves have a healthy Acuna; Strider and Riley be are a contender. If the new hitting coach can get Olson hitting some where between 2023 and 2024 Olson like .260 35 home runs and 100 rbi consistent all season we are back
I am shook seeing video of these guys. I’ve listened since the very, very beginning. It never occurred to me that they even had physical forms. They’ve always just been disembodied voices.
I disagree with Laureano's metric's and underlining numbers being worse. Braves made some sight adjustments to his batting stance, which had him producing down in Gwinnett with a .384 xwOBA down there, and that carried over up to the majors league level as well. With Braves: .338 xwBOA, 89.0 mph exit velo, 42.1% hard hit rate, 15.1% barrel rate. .457 xwOBACON 2018-2022: .339 xwOBA, 88.9 mph exit velo, 39.3% hard hit rate, 10.1% barrel rate, .422 xwOBACON With the Braves he carried a similar xwOBA and exit velocity, a little bit better hard hit rate, a good improvement in barrel rate, and a better xwOBACON to his 2018 through 2022 seasons when he was a good solid hitter.
he very clearly ran hot with the braves; sky-high .380 BABIP with the lowest walk rate (3.5%) of his career; i'm fine with thinking he'd bounce back from where he was pre-ATL, but I'll strongly take the under on his 2024 braves production on a per-game basis
@@HammerTerritory Which is why I used his expected stats and not his actual stats, because his actual outputs where above his expected stats, but his expected stats with the Braves line up with his expected stats, some of which were better this year, from his first 4 years in the league, where he was actually a solid hitter with a 113 wRC+ during that time.
I could see the Braves moving on from him at the 6,000,000 range. I could be wrong but I don’t think Anyone is thinking he is going be 140 games outfielder with great numbers. He is most likely a 4th outfielder
@@benjaminwalters7800 If his metrics and peripherals hold true to form, he's an above average hitter, just like he was in his 2018 to 2021 seasons. Sure he might not be the 129 wRC+ hitter he was with the Braves this year, but he should be at least around that 113 wRC+ range should his metrics continue to be what they have been with the Braves. On top of that, he's an above average defender and has one of the best arms in baseball, as his arm strength ranked in the 89th percentile, while being in the 100th percentile in arm value. Braves haven't seen above a 100 wRC+ at the left field position since 2018 when Acuna was in left. To this point in Laureano's career he has been a 2.8 WAR/600 PA player, and anything above 2.0 fWAR is above a replacement level player.
With acuna back, the offense should find it’s true form. Let the rookies pitch, & let the offense bail them out if they need it. Figure out the future rotation now & deal the rest
@@chrisbirdsall3285 there’s no guarantees in baseball; that’s always been a thing. We’ve seen what this offense can do at full speed. Acuna simply being in the lineup changes how teams play them.
@@benjaminwalters7800 maybe not in the first half. His injury history leads me to think the Braves won’t be in on him come FA time. They’ll get the most out of him, & he’s pretty cheap considering he’s like a $35M+ AAV player, playing for less than $20M. lol
Calling AA 'pretty risk averse' is comical.. Just this past season.. Traded for Sale.. Signed Reynaldo n converted him to a starter.. Trade for a DH Soler n put him in the OF.. Paid close to $16 Million to acquire Kelenic .. I can go on n on ... Ppl think of AA as risk averse because the risks he has taken have worked out .. Most good GMs are NOT risk averse especially not him
Risk averse from a contractual perspective. We had already discussed his creativity on the same podcast, which speaks to what you’re saying. But none of those deals were overly risky from the standpoint of long term contracts. Sale’s money was offset. Kelenic’s long term risk was basically nil. Lopez had only modest guaranteed money and it would’ve been a reasonable deal even if he was a reliever, etc
There’s a reason people think the Braves are cheap. Bc they don’t keep their best players once their contracts expire. Freeman is the worst example. He’s light years better than Olson. Fried is walking. And he shouldn’t be.
Hard disagree with Soler still hitting well. He’s ok. There are so many more people I’d rather have in the middle of the lineup. If he were that good, they would’ve taken a defensive hit for that offense.
Soler produced a 135 wRC+ with the Braves, which is even better than the 133 wRC+ he produced with them in 2021, so that's 35% better than league average production, and there was only 18 qualified hitter who hit better than that this past year with Freddie Freeman in 18th with a 137 wRC+.
Yeah there is no statistical basis for “hard disagree” on Soler hitting well. He was a very good hitter in Atlanta this season. He’s not super elite or anything but clear positive at the plate.
@@kyleknapp1985 That's not true at all, depending on what your call "big moments" but if your big moments are pertaining to RISP, Soler's strikeout rate went down to 20.0% which is well below league average, while his offensive production jumped up to a 163 wRC+.
Hard disagree with Soler still hitting well. He’s ok. There are so many more people I’d rather have in the middle of the lineup. If he were that good, they would’ve taken a defensive hit for that offense.
There's no point in moving off of Canning until either the arbitration deadline is here, or they sign a another legitimate starter to take over that 5 spot. Because he gives them an option if they they can't sign anyone, or trade for anyone ahead of time.
I've said several times Bummer had similar treatment from Snit as Jimenez did his first year. Snit refused to use Joe his first year so maybe we'll see better usage for bummer in 2025.
Yep we’ve made that point too!
@HammerTerritory unfortunately this may be even more true than we realized with Jimenez being out for most of 2025
Already been an active off-season for this franchise. Looking forward to it being a productive free agency and I believe AA and the front office will do what’s in the best interest for getting us back to being a serious contender next season. #BravesCountry
If the Braves have a healthy Acuna; Strider and Riley be are a contender. If the new hitting coach can get Olson hitting some where between 2023 and 2024 Olson like .260 35 home runs and 100 rbi consistent all season we are back
I am shook seeing video of these guys. I’ve listened since the very, very beginning. It never occurred to me that they even had physical forms. They’ve always just been disembodied voices.
genuine lol (and thanks for listening)
I disagree with Laureano's metric's and underlining numbers being worse. Braves made some sight adjustments to his batting stance, which had him producing down in Gwinnett with a .384 xwOBA down there, and that carried over up to the majors league level as well.
With Braves: .338 xwBOA, 89.0 mph exit velo, 42.1% hard hit rate, 15.1% barrel rate. .457 xwOBACON
2018-2022: .339 xwOBA, 88.9 mph exit velo, 39.3% hard hit rate, 10.1% barrel rate, .422 xwOBACON
With the Braves he carried a similar xwOBA and exit velocity, a little bit better hard hit rate, a good improvement in barrel rate, and a better xwOBACON to his 2018 through 2022 seasons when he was a good solid hitter.
he very clearly ran hot with the braves; sky-high .380 BABIP with the lowest walk rate (3.5%) of his career; i'm fine with thinking he'd bounce back from where he was pre-ATL, but I'll strongly take the under on his 2024 braves production on a per-game basis
@@HammerTerritory Which is why I used his expected stats and not his actual stats, because his actual outputs where above his expected stats, but his expected stats with the Braves line up with his expected stats, some of which were better this year, from his first 4 years in the league, where he was actually a solid hitter with a 113 wRC+ during that time.
I could see the Braves moving on from him at the 6,000,000 range. I could be wrong but I don’t think
Anyone is thinking he is going be 140 games outfielder with great numbers. He is most likely a 4th outfielder
@@benjaminwalters7800 If his metrics and peripherals hold true to form, he's an above average hitter, just like he was in his 2018 to 2021 seasons. Sure he might not be the 129 wRC+ hitter he was with the Braves this year, but he should be at least around that 113 wRC+ range should his metrics continue to be what they have been with the Braves. On top of that, he's an above average defender and has one of the best arms in baseball, as his arm strength ranked in the 89th percentile, while being in the 100th percentile in arm value. Braves haven't seen above a 100 wRC+ at the left field position since 2018 when Acuna was in left. To this point in Laureano's career he has been a 2.8 WAR/600 PA player, and anything above 2.0 fWAR is above a replacement level player.
I think bringing Charlie back is great has experience and is a good leader.
Scott I am glad you said rotation could have questions. You never know
Possibly, but probably fewer questions now with them picking up 2 more starting pitchers this week.
@MassBoost they didn't pick up 2 starters. Lopez was already on the team and Bummer is a relief putcher
@@chrisbirdsall3285 Yes they did, Griffin Canning and Royber Salinas.
@@MassBoostso you think canning actually pitches in 2025 with Atlanta or is non tendered??
@MassBoost ok Canning . Salinas is minor league guy that's out for at least half a season
Braves also save $2mil on the CBT this next year, and $1mil on the CBT in 2026 with Bummers revised deal.
I traded for sale on a Braves franchise mode once I think that counts
Luis Severino? Had a great year.
I think $10-12M for Charlie would still be a little high. I was thinking $5-7M
Did I miss the Charlie Morton segment? And did Brad have a sign that said “Bring Back Charlie”
21:03 mark
Sonny gray has 65 million left on his contract. He signed a 3 year 75 million deal and was only paid 10 million this year.
Right, $65mil if they don't pick up the option, and $90mil if they do pick up his option.
I'll get hate for saying it, but there's a world where Soler outhits Ozuna next season. I could easily see it.
With acuna back, the offense should find it’s true form.
Let the rookies pitch, & let the offense bail them out if they need it. Figure out the future rotation now & deal the rest
Can't guarantee offense would be good again. Did you watch the first 2 mk months of last year before Acuna ,etc got hurt.
Acuna will most likely not run and steal bases like before at least for a while. His stealing really helped the batters behind him
@@benjaminwalters7800 true statement. Also some guys don't like some run running in front of them. Freeman was like that.
@@chrisbirdsall3285 there’s no guarantees in baseball; that’s always been a thing.
We’ve seen what this offense can do at full speed. Acuna simply being in the lineup changes how teams play them.
@@benjaminwalters7800 maybe not in the first half. His injury history leads me to think the Braves won’t be in on him come FA time. They’ll get the most out of him, & he’s pretty cheap considering he’s like a $35M+ AAV player, playing for less than $20M. lol
Calling AA 'pretty risk averse' is comical.. Just this past season.. Traded for Sale.. Signed Reynaldo n converted him to a starter.. Trade for a DH Soler n put him in the OF.. Paid close to $16 Million to acquire Kelenic .. I can go on n on ... Ppl think of AA as risk averse because the risks he has taken have worked out .. Most good GMs are NOT risk averse especially not him
Risk averse from a contractual perspective. We had already discussed his creativity on the same podcast, which speaks to what you’re saying. But none of those deals were overly risky from the standpoint of long term contracts. Sale’s money was offset. Kelenic’s long term risk was basically nil. Lopez had only modest guaranteed money and it would’ve been a reasonable deal even if he was a reliever, etc
Adames is getting 7/200
There’s a reason people think the Braves are cheap. Bc they don’t keep their best players once their contracts expire. Freeman is the worst example. He’s light years better than Olson. Fried is walking. And he shouldn’t be.
Olson has committed the crime of being the 2nd-best first baseman in baseball since he arrived in Atlanta. How dare he.
Bummer is a joke he didn’t perform well at all
You’d be very wrong!
Hard disagree with Soler still hitting well. He’s ok. There are so many more people I’d rather have in the middle of the lineup. If he were that good, they would’ve taken a defensive hit for that offense.
Soler produced a 135 wRC+ with the Braves, which is even better than the 133 wRC+ he produced with them in 2021, so that's 35% better than league average production, and there was only 18 qualified hitter who hit better than that this past year with Freddie Freeman in 18th with a 137 wRC+.
Yeah there is no statistical basis for “hard disagree” on Soler hitting well. He was a very good hitter in Atlanta this season. He’s not super elite or anything but clear positive at the plate.
@ he struck out a lot especially in big moments.
They can do better is all I’m saying. He’s a fine player but this is the Braves. The very best!
@@kyleknapp1985 That's not true at all, depending on what your call "big moments" but if your big moments are pertaining to RISP, Soler's strikeout rate went down to 20.0% which is well below league average, while his offensive production jumped up to a 163 wRC+.
I'd only offer Charlie Morton $10 million he's not worth more than that.
Hard disagree with Soler still hitting well. He’s ok. There are so many more people I’d rather have in the middle of the lineup. If he were that good, they would’ve taken a defensive hit for that offense.