Can you add testing DX11 GTA 5 naturalvision evolved and dlss 3 FSR 3 mod? Nvidia better than AMD in this DX11😅 When you will be next time testing Nvidia vs AMD 😃
Let's be fair, the RTX 4090 wins obviously, but, for almost half of the price we got an incredible AMD graphics card, and considering that the shelf life of a GPU goes to 4-6 years, I preffer the RX 7900XTX
@@crassusmaximus5879 bro dlss ia nothing fsr mod is better more option,fps and latency power per fps is meh too compr to like 4080/4070s 4090 is just for those who want best of the best without comperation
Because they have been behind Nvidia in these technologies for many years like dlss, it is impossible for AMD to now catch up with Nvidia in both of these technologies unless Nvidia rests on its laurels like Intel. While AMD still has no idea about AI, image enhancement like dlss and RT, Nvidia has been researching it for many years, until now Nvidia's R&D budget is 10 times more than AMD's, unless AMD has A century-old invention is enough to transform this industry, otherwise it would be very difficult to surpass Nvidia besides price
It's not optimization, AMD allocated less chip area for RT than NVidia. The 7900XTX already uses a smaller chip and half of it is on 6nm, giving it more RT cores would put them further behind Nvidia in rasterization.
@@lharsay nope, they don't have any area allocated to rt, they literally lack rt silicon blocks, the reason they do so poorly vs nvidia it's because they use repurposed tmu's to do rt, which will tank in performance the moment the gpu needs to do more than just one thing, because it needs those tmu's for texture mapping in the shading pipeline, which are also needed for ray acceleration. Compare it to nvidia or intel, that have silicon especifically made for rt acceleration only, and isn't part of the gpu raster engines. It's why people say amd does rt through software, their dedicated hardware is hardware gpu's have had since ages ago, just much stronger, while nvidia and intel bothered with hardware for rt to leverage the load, while the shading pipelines remain unaffected.
what? if you care about RT like pathtracing you are in most cases getting TWO to THREE times the fps with the 4090. FFS the 7900xtx is not even playable with pathtracing.
@@robertsharp6072 I'm using rtx 4080 but I have never use ray tracing or something smilier once I think the native is good It don't acctually need to be so bright like that
Let's be honest, no ones here (i guess) thought that 7900xtx would be more powerful than 4090, isn't it? But this price difference hurts like a b****. 4090 is a VB to hold for many years or trade in a few, but for my reality is worth to get a 7900xtx and switch to other in 3y or 4, since you'll have just 20% - 25% less performance than 4090, but getting the VB almost 50% of the 4090 price.
@@JutepestIts fair, but not realistic. 4090 is in a league of its own with a price to match that, hell, you could make an entire rig with a 7900 XTX for the price of a 4090. The realistic competition is the 4080 Super, not the 4090.
xtx's opponent is 4080 super, if you play games you should choose 1 of 2 according to your needs, RT or not. Actually, the difference for the 4090 is not in gaming performance but in RT performance and the ability to work with specialized software, which is what Nvidia charges you so much, in fact the 90 is still Titan successor GPU and Titan GPU have never been positioned by Nvidia as purely for gaming, but they are strongly aimed at people who need to work but do not have enough budget for Nvidia's dedicated working GPU.
@@chien.nguyen.that’s not really true it’s consumer card and they always show ,when they presenting there card, gaming performance instead of workstation.
@@listX_DE Of course because it's their GPU with the strongest gaming capabilities, in the past the Titan series was still advertised by them, but they promoted the ability to work more, plus at that time the GTX 1080ti and RTX 2080 TI models were both is a monster in terms of performance and price so most users don't pay attention to the titan series, but if you notice the release of the 3090 nvidia directly compared it with the rtx titan as a next generation
had 1060, 2060, 3070, 3070ti, 4070ti, after 3 years i realised im not even using dlss cause i hate the downscaling and raytracing is not playable. so i went with a 7900xtx and holy shit... for this money..
@@jesus11896The RTX 4080 Super generally offers better value than the 7900 XTX. It corrected the pricing mistake of the original RTX 4080, which forced many to opt for the RTX 4090, even for gaming alone. The original RTX 4080 was priced at over $1200, which seemed unreasonable compared to the $1700 RTX 4090, especially since the 4090 outperforms the 4080 in every aspect for just $500 more. However, with the RTX 4080S priced at $950-1000, it becomes a much better deal-$700-750 cheaper than the 4090 and still a very well-balanced GPU. Unless AMD's offering drops to around $750-800, the RTX 4080S is simply the better choice. That’s why I’d make the same decision today.
for the price even 4080 s isn't worth it, you can find them for 1.2k or above and doesn't match the MSRP. as for team green, I'd say 4070 ti S is a solid pick.
@@awaiswasi354 don't extrapolate ur situation to the entire planet. I've checked PCPartPicker several times & found several 4080Ss well below their $1K MSRP
It's a 75% increase you can find them for 1600 to 1700 right now. So 75% increase at most. 100% would be 2k also. Not 200% Also there were much larger differences then 20% some of them had 50 to 60% gains. Especially with ray tracing. Development are now putting it in without options like the new wukong is going to utilize nvidia tech to the fullest. Same goes for the new star wars game on the 30th. It's just how it is. Enjoy the decline of amd lol. Not our fault or there's devs want to utilize the most advanced new technology for there games to be pushed to the limits. So you will see it happen more and more. They are even utilizing rays in game without settings yoy can reduce due to the algorithms put in place. So yeah gonna be a tough time for amd. Its pretty crazy when a 4070 ti super is beating a 7900xtx in wukong, alan wake, the nee star wars game it will happen and more. The 6 new releases are all going to be nvidia focused. 😊
@@reviewforthetube6485 I agree with you, and I still believe the RTX 4090 stands out, but not because of ray tracing. Full ray tracing isn't a priority yet, and in most games with ray tracing, AMD's performance isn't bad. NVIDIA crushes AMD in titles with full implementation or path tracing. The problem is that we won’t see the RTX 4090 being future-proof for upcoming games that focus on path tracing. By the time those titles are released, the RTX 5090 will have already taken its place, much like how the RTX 3090 struggled with Cyberpunk 2077’s Path Tracing. Despite being a high-end card that outperformed the 6900 XT, especially in ray tracing, the RTX 3090 was quickly forgotten. NVIDIA continues to push the limits, but instead of making these features more accessible, they’ve made it harder to achieve playable performance, even with top-tier cards like the RTX 4090. DLSS and frame generation become necessities. Take 'Black Myth: Wukong' for example-it brings the RTX 4090 down to 22 fps. While that's better than AMD's 4-5 fps, it's still far from a good experience. Current-gen GPUs simply aren’t ready for full ray tracing or path tracing, and the RTX 4090 will share the same fate. It’s a short-lived advantage with only a handful of path-traced games, and that’s unlikely to change.
why do you keep listing 7900XTX as $1000, only very high end version of that card is that. expensive and makes no sense, most versions are between $900-930 and those are the versions people usually buy
Because the price varies from region to region. For example, here in Europe, the cheapest model costs €1050, which is US$1160. It's stupid to be making this kind of criticism.
Lmao what? here in sweden even the shittiest 7900xtx costs around 1200$, in most of eu too. a good aib one costs around 1300-1400 here. 7900xt around 1000-1200 depending on aib.
Buyer's guide: If your budget is less than $600 go AMD. If it's more than $600 go Nvidia. Anything weaker than an RTX 4070 super is just not worth it from Nvidia (4060 yuck) and anything better than a 7900 GRE from AMD is just not worth it. At that price point the extra features from NVIDIA are just worth paying extra for.
RTX 4090 isn't solely for gaming. It might not be worth paying $800 more for this purpose. But for productivity, there are sides that are much better than AMD and definitely worth that difference. No, not just a bunch of games that have Ray Tracing still not worth $800, imo. Plus, not all Ray Tracing titles are similar to Nvidia ones.
Sum up, if you play multiplayer and pvp focused games like (call of duty, csgo, rust, Tarkov, battlefield etc,)get a 7900 xtx if you play single story games like (cyber punk, last of us, Alan wake, avatar, etc) get a 4090, I have both and the 4090 really does shine when your just trying to get THE most realistic and mouth dropping single player immersion. And when playing basic pvp games with friend, 7900 xtx absolutely does the job giving a smooth 4k gameplay on basically every pvp game
I came here to my quarter check of the price-to-performance ratio. I'm not a 4K player but for the price of a 4090 you still can get a 7900xtx and a X3D CPU.
if you really wanna do RT with AMD then it's possible. if AFMF2 isn't delivering a better performance, then I'd say get a lossless scaling app and choose x3 or x4 mode for frame gen, and you're good to go.
don't buy the 7900xtx or any GPU at all and keep another 1000$ in your pocket. With this logic people would only buy food to survive and nothing else and everyone would be rich. But what is the point of being rich if you won't spent it ony anything?
Its a poor investment imo. Higher temps, worse memory usage, higher wattage and lower frames paired with a bad upscaler and horrible RT implementation. Long term its a poor choice. Rather save for a 4090
Agreed, no need for highest end GPUs when there are better options, heck even RTX 4070 Ti/RX 7800 XT are also amazing choice and you can't go wrong with both cards
@@awaiswasi354 oh my apologies, I meant to say used GPU, ops I forgot to mention that sincere apologies 😊 Edited: and yes, RTX 4070 Super Ti is amazing 😻
ну пососать - это чересчур громко не так уж она и сосет, у 4090 76 миллиардов транзисторов и более 16 000 блоков ропс память 6Х а у 7900 58 миллиардов и 6 000 блоков и память не 6Х а отстает она не так и намного если это учесть то выйдет что сосет как раз 4090 к тому-же разница в цене более 2х раз.
I quite like the idea of price to performance ratio but then you would lose access to green features as I used those a lot. AMD is indeed never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity. 🤷🏻♀️
As long you aren't activating RT and playing without that, the 7900xtx is a great card. But with RT. It's a big difference. Then NVIDIA cards have a clear advantage.
Its crazy isnt it? Their cpu could go toe to toe with an i9 14900k/s in gaming at 6000mhz but their card saw an almost 2x loss in frames with Alan Wake alone and a 100% decrease in cyberpunk. And higher temps and poorer memory usage along with bad upscaling. Its clear GPU’s are not their strength. Their CPU’s are great at 6000mhz but they also start to show their weakness at anything higher and thats where intel reminds people why theyre still at number 1.
@@scizzorxyz rigless spotted and always talk shet about the competitor, even thought the only program that their use in real life are microsoft office 💀
reading this comments i see 2 types of people nvidia fan boys and amd fan boys. Also most of them don't even have 7900 xtx, 7900xt, 4080s, 4090 and they are telling every one that these are the best gpus. Also good benchmark
Why the rtx 4090 frame graphs flacuate a lot? you guys realize at that rate the gameplay will feel worse than the RX 7900 in regard to smoothness? ur benchmark is suspecious..
It's crazy to think that the R9 Fury X was the last time AMD compete against nvidia's top end, that was almost 10 years ago. But who are we kidding, AMD owns the consoles, AMD owns the servers, AMD is starting to take ground on the laptops....let's keep it real they dont even care about desktop gaming computers anymore.
A very true comment. AMD has seriously strengthened its hand in many areas. consoles and handheld consoles, desktop PCs and servers, artificial intelligence GPUs and notebook market. If you ask me, AMD seems to care more about the notebook market with its latest ryzen ai 9 300 will be very successful with the series
@@juanme555 You would have had to have been there to see it. I've never heard anyone ever give Fiji any recognition because these cards were DOA. Vega had a better launch than Fiji did. These Fiji cards would only show their true power at 4k, but they were hobbled by their 4GB frame buffer. The 980ti tore the Fury X apart at 1080p, and the 980ti beat the Fury X handily at 1440p. The 980ti smacks the Fury X a bit harder at 1080p than the 3090ti does to the 6950xt at 4k. Remember, back in 2015, 1080p monitors had just become mainstream, 2560x1440 was very expensive, and a TN panel 60hz 4k monitor was crude and expensive. Yes, the 3090ti is faster but not by the margin you're thinking, even at 4k where the 3090ti is at its best. It's not like the gap between the 7900xtx and 4090. The 6950xt and 6900xt put up an excellent showing against the 3090 and 3080ti at 4k, and even more so at 1440p.
Microcenter has the Gigabyte 7900xtx for $800......That's a deal and better if you overclock it a bit. But maybe wait to see what the 5070/5080/5090 can do thou. By then, might as well wait for the 8900 xtx.
a more than decent performance for the RX 7900 XTX but with the RTX 4080 super at the same price I think this graphics card makes little sense, now it will age quite well due to the 24gb of Vram. the best quality price of AMD is the RX 7800 xt and/or the RX 7900 GRE, very good performance for what they cost.
With too many incidents of burnt power connector the 4090 is a hard pass even if I can afford 10 of them. There's this fear of me that it might burn my house if left for a while.
Insane how despite being much faster, the 4090 sometimes consume the Same amount of power or even less. The price ruins it tho😂, i hope the XTX doesn't have the weird ahh 100-125 W at idle bug anymore tho.
All that performance means nothing when you see AMD’s excuse of an upscaler. Cried tears of blood when i saw max FSR. Rather would go broke with a 4090. At least you get better side features like DLSS 3, better frame gen, RTX Remix, actual RT and PT implementation. Was actually considering a switch till i remembered all that
that's a gaslighting ass statement if I've ever seen one. FSR is really freaking legit right now, ur either ignorant or just being flat out dishonest af. It may not be a 100% match to dlss 3 but i doubt the average person is gonna tell the difference. "U cried tears of blood" lol what a theatrical basehead.
The 7900 XTX is too expensive for what it offers. At this price the 4080 super is a better deal (same price and better feature set, less power required, almost the same raster performance with much better RT performance). Compared to the 4090 any GPU looks to be cheap but then it's the best GPU for a significant difference.
Eu prefiro a 7900 XTX, por ser mais barata que uma 4080 normal e ainda ter um desempenho superior em vários cenários. Não acho que o Ray Tracing justifique uma RTX. Para ligar o Ray Tracing (completo) é preciso cortar a resolução e a configuração. Mesmo na 4090 tem um custo alto para o path tracing. Não vale a pena na minha visão.
the battle of the gpu market is not at a high level, no one cares about the 4090, there are only a few dozen people who have this card, the real battle is with the mid-range cards, not that AMD could not make a better card than the 4090 I'm sure that at 350w it could produce a monster, but who buys them?
Cyberpunk had a 90% increase, Alan Wake had a 50% increase, hogwarts legacy stood at 50%, Avatar at 55% . Your math isnt mathing but your coping is certainly coping.
We only parise amd on social media for their good gpu with good price but while buying gpu we choose nvidia only 😂 that's why even after many good gpu's amd not able to conquer gpu market
Raytracing and upscaler for Radeon GPUs is not good. The performance uplift from Ryzen was disappointing at the very least. However, Intel Core CPUs I'm avoiding until they fix the issue. Intel ARC for the first generation dedicated GPUs is actually decent for the price. Ray-tracing performance is actually decent and their upscalers XESS is actually on par with DLSS. Im only avoiding Nvidia because of the connector port issue. I would love to see intel ARC's next generation GPUs completely destroyed AMD. Nvidia is an another league though.
Brother are you stupid the 7000 are such a good value compared to Nvidia. Yes the 9000 are not interesting for gamers but for somebody that needs a good workstation yes.
AMD was not cooking with that efficiency... Arc sleeping, Nvidia overpricing. this generation sucked so much that I might end up joining nv once more. also, I need a card for cuda anyways...
Paying 5000dollars from an pc with an 4090 and not be able to play in 4k ultra with everything on at minimum 144hz wtf we talking about all this gurus 4090 the fastest card on the planet yeah hold my left bolocks atach to it a sagging braket pls bye Dont buy nothing guys no amd intel invidia nothig for the next 3 years maybe the will understand how we feel .
The 4090 is the top of the line and best card, the 7900 XTX is the "I don't have enough money for a 4090" option. If earn 1 Million every month you would buy the 4090, end of the discussion
@@Человек-с3эwell it'd not our fault that devs are leaning on nvidia tech. The last 4 major aaa games are all promoted by nvidia and all utilize nvidia tech the most. So it's clear devs like what nvidia is doing and want there games to utilize the highest end software and hardware acceleration. Which is nvidia. So if yoy aren't buying an nvidia card right now you will be hindered badly in the future. Look at wukong or the new star wars outlaws, alan wake 2 etc. All based around nvidia technology qe have 6 releases that re all promoted by nvidia haha. Again that's not our fault thays just what's happening and if yoy can't take advantage of those games it's rough. Be ausw now devs are using built in rays without turning on ray tracing the way they utilize lighting will be better on nvidia technology and not as taxing on the card. Ita to the point now where 4070 ti supers are beating the 7900xtx in the new games.
Comparing your results (Jan 2, 2024) to Steve (Gamers Nexus) some of your results are slightly on par, slightly higher, and some just way out in left field. Did you double check everything?
DON'T GET SCREW GUYS, im a professional techinician and i have so many 4090s broken of the pcie, memory chip pads broken, gpu pads broken, is insane how many gpus 4090s are broken, pcie power gets burned to! Worst card ever and not in fps of course
It would help a lot of people either vertical mounted their heavy Graphics cards or used a brace. I come across used cards all the time, and half the time the backplane/PCB is twisted. Eventually this causes problems with the VRAM or cowos
that's why i nvr buy a flagship . i hv upgraded from 3070 Founders edition to gigabyte rtx 4070 ti super gigabyte eagle oc at launch 2024 jan from my 3yr old rtx 3070
Games :
Senua's Saga Hellblade II - 0:06
Cyberpunk 2077 - 0:58
Cyberpunk 2077 | RT, DLSS\FSR - 1:55
Ghost of Tsushima - 2:49
Alan Wake 2 - 3:47
Alan Wake 2 | RT, DLSS\FSR - 4:45
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 5:44
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 6:47
Starfield - 7:53
Hogwarts Legacy - 8:53
Hogwarts Legacy | RT - 9:47
Forza Horizon 5 - 10:40
Horizon Forbidden West - 11:40
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Can you add testing DX11 GTA 5 naturalvision evolved and dlss 3 FSR 3 mod? Nvidia better than AMD in this DX11😅 When you will be next time testing Nvidia vs AMD 😃
Let's be fair, the RTX 4090 wins obviously, but, for almost half of the price we got an incredible AMD graphics card, and considering that the shelf life of a GPU goes to 4-6 years, I preffer the RX 7900XTX
Raytracing, DLSS, Frame Gen., / Video cut and other working processes, lower power consumption, better quality in all ways. Nvidia all the way.
If all you do is game, both cards are overpriced for what you get.
ye both isn't the best price to performance either way
@@crassusmaximus5879 bro dlss ia nothing
fsr mod is better
more option,fps and latency
power per fps is meh too
compr to like 4080/4070s
4090 is just for those who want best of the best without comperation
@@crassusmaximus5879no one gives a f about ray tracing dude. and power consumption is dumb talk be fr
AMD's RT Engine really lacks many optimizations. At least it gets reworked in 8000 series
Because they have been behind Nvidia in these technologies for many years like dlss, it is impossible for AMD to now catch up with Nvidia in both of these technologies unless Nvidia rests on its laurels like Intel. While AMD still has no idea about AI, image enhancement like dlss and RT, Nvidia has been researching it for many years, until now Nvidia's R&D budget is 10 times more than AMD's, unless AMD has A century-old invention is enough to transform this industry, otherwise it would be very difficult to surpass Nvidia besides price
It won't be that impressive on the 8000 series either, unless they introduce some kind of RT cores similar to Nvidia.
It's not optimization, AMD allocated less chip area for RT than NVidia. The 7900XTX already uses a smaller chip and half of it is on 6nm, giving it more RT cores would put them further behind Nvidia in rasterization.
Amd caught up to intel, it will catch up with Nvidia, just a matter of time.
@@lharsay nope, they don't have any area allocated to rt, they literally lack rt silicon blocks, the reason they do so poorly vs nvidia it's because they use repurposed tmu's to do rt, which will tank in performance the moment the gpu needs to do more than just one thing, because it needs those tmu's for texture mapping in the shading pipeline, which are also needed for ray acceleration.
Compare it to nvidia or intel, that have silicon especifically made for rt acceleration only, and isn't part of the gpu raster engines.
It's why people say amd does rt through software, their dedicated hardware is hardware gpu's have had since ages ago, just much stronger, while nvidia and intel bothered with hardware for rt to leverage the load, while the shading pipelines remain unaffected.
4090 ~ 12$ per fps
7900 ~ 8$ per fps
The difference in price for each fps is 50%, while the difference in fps itself is 25%
what? if you care about RT like pathtracing you are in most cases getting TWO to THREE times the fps with the 4090. FFS the 7900xtx is not even playable with pathtracing.
@@robertsharp6072
I'm using rtx 4080 but I have never use ray tracing or something smilier once
I think the native is good
It don't acctually need to be so bright like that
@@haohan2402 TRUE!
@@haohan2402 using awesome 4080 without rt its like driving ferrari with 25 mph
@@morphinekrg 40mph I think hehe~
Let's be honest, no ones here (i guess) thought that 7900xtx would be more powerful than 4090, isn't it? But this price difference hurts like a b****. 4090 is a VB to hold for many years or trade in a few, but for my reality is worth to get a 7900xtx and switch to other in 3y or 4, since you'll have just 20% - 25% less performance than 4090, but getting the VB almost 50% of the 4090 price.
Comparing an almost 2000 euro GPU with a 1000 euro GPU!?!? And people cheering 4090? WTH :D
Comparing best from amd to comparing best from nvidia fair comparsion in my opinion
@@JutepestIts fair, but not realistic. 4090 is in a league of its own with a price to match that, hell, you could make an entire rig with a 7900 XTX for the price of a 4090. The realistic competition is the 4080 Super, not the 4090.
@@angeltzepesh1 RTX 4080 Super > RX 7900 XTX
@@crassusmaximus5879 and what is that supposed to mean? I never said which one is better, i said its better comparison
@@crassusmaximus5879 RTX 4080 Super basically is the same as 7900 XTX, check techpowerup and benchmarks without ray tracing
Well, I don’t know, is 800 bucks worth such a difference in performance?
xtx's opponent is 4080 super, if you play games you should choose 1 of 2 according to your needs, RT or not. Actually, the difference for the 4090 is not in gaming performance but in RT performance and the ability to work with specialized software, which is what Nvidia charges you so much, in fact the 90 is still Titan successor GPU and Titan GPU have never been positioned by Nvidia as purely for gaming, but they are strongly aimed at people who need to work but do not have enough budget for Nvidia's dedicated working GPU.
If you don't have the money, it's not worth it.
4K is where 4090 really shines
@@chien.nguyen.that’s not really true it’s consumer card and they always show ,when they presenting there card, gaming performance instead of workstation.
@@listX_DE Of course because it's their GPU with the strongest gaming capabilities, in the past the Titan series was still advertised by them, but they promoted the ability to work more, plus at that time the GTX 1080ti and RTX 2080 TI models were both is a monster in terms of performance and price so most users don't pay attention to the titan series, but if you notice the release of the 3090 nvidia directly compared it with the rtx titan as a next generation
had 1060, 2060, 3070, 3070ti, 4070ti, after 3 years i realised im not even using dlss cause i hate the downscaling and raytracing is not playable. so i went with a 7900xtx and holy shit... for this money..
I would choose 4080 super any day over these two really...
Why?
@@jesus11896The RTX 4080 Super generally offers better value than the 7900 XTX. It corrected the pricing mistake of the original RTX 4080, which forced many to opt for the RTX 4090, even for gaming alone. The original RTX 4080 was priced at over $1200, which seemed unreasonable compared to the $1700 RTX 4090, especially since the 4090 outperforms the 4080 in every aspect for just $500 more. However, with the RTX 4080S priced at $950-1000, it becomes a much better deal-$700-750 cheaper than the 4090 and still a very well-balanced GPU. Unless AMD's offering drops to around $750-800, the RTX 4080S is simply the better choice. That’s why I’d make the same decision today.
for the price even 4080 s isn't worth it, you can find them for 1.2k or above and doesn't match the MSRP. as for team green, I'd say 4070 ti S is a solid pick.
@@awaiswasi354depends where you live though
@@awaiswasi354 don't extrapolate ur situation to the entire planet. I've checked PCPartPicker several times & found several 4080Ss well below their $1K MSRP
200% price for 25%-30% improve😂
Then check cyberpunk RT+DLSS 138 FPS RT+FSR 70 FPS 😂😂
7900 XTX 6400 Shaders
RTX 4090 16500 Shaders
Is that enough 😂😂
It's a 75% increase you can find them for 1600 to 1700 right now. So 75% increase at most. 100% would be 2k also. Not 200%
Also there were much larger differences then 20% some of them had 50 to 60% gains. Especially with ray tracing. Development are now putting it in without options like the new wukong is going to utilize nvidia tech to the fullest. Same goes for the new star wars game on the 30th. It's just how it is. Enjoy the decline of amd lol.
Not our fault or there's devs want to utilize the most advanced new technology for there games to be pushed to the limits. So you will see it happen more and more. They are even utilizing rays in game without settings yoy can reduce due to the algorithms put in place. So yeah gonna be a tough time for amd. Its pretty crazy when a 4070 ti super is beating a 7900xtx in wukong, alan wake, the nee star wars game it will happen and more. The 6 new releases are all going to be nvidia focused. 😊
@@Rsty7571000€ vs 2000€
@@reviewforthetube6485 I agree with you, and I still believe the RTX 4090 stands out, but not because of ray tracing. Full ray tracing isn't a priority yet, and in most games with ray tracing, AMD's performance isn't bad. NVIDIA crushes AMD in titles with full implementation or path tracing. The problem is that we won’t see the RTX 4090 being future-proof for upcoming games that focus on path tracing. By the time those titles are released, the RTX 5090 will have already taken its place, much like how the RTX 3090 struggled with Cyberpunk 2077’s Path Tracing. Despite being a high-end card that outperformed the 6900 XT, especially in ray tracing, the RTX 3090 was quickly forgotten. NVIDIA continues to push the limits, but instead of making these features more accessible, they’ve made it harder to achieve playable performance, even with top-tier cards like the RTX 4090. DLSS and frame generation become necessities. Take 'Black Myth: Wukong' for example-it brings the RTX 4090 down to 22 fps. While that's better than AMD's 4-5 fps, it's still far from a good experience. Current-gen GPUs simply aren’t ready for full ray tracing or path tracing, and the RTX 4090 will share the same fate. It’s a short-lived advantage with only a handful of path-traced games, and that’s unlikely to change.
@@Rsty757because 4090 uses frame gen, without frame gen 4090 isn't that capable of producing those FPS. so it's RT+DLSS+FG.
Spend difference on Oled screen.
Im happy with my 4070ti, smashing everything i throw at it 3440x1440p
why do you keep listing 7900XTX as $1000, only very high end version of that card is that. expensive and makes no sense, most versions are between $900-930 and those are the versions people usually buy
Because the price varies from region to region. For example, here in Europe, the cheapest model costs €1050, which is US$1160. It's stupid to be making this kind of criticism.
@@augustomartins9516that’s not true in Eu it cost 900€ mindfactory
Lmao what? here in sweden even the shittiest 7900xtx costs around 1200$, in most of eu too. a good aib one costs around 1300-1400 here. 7900xt around 1000-1200 depending on aib.
@@listX_DE dont talk shit my man, in sweden they are 1200$+ every single aib of the 7900xtx. 7900xt between 1000-1200$/£.
id love to be able to get a 7900xtx for 900-930 brand new, lol. Aint happening in eu.
Buyer's guide: If your budget is less than $600 go AMD. If it's more than $600 go Nvidia.
Anything weaker than an RTX 4070 super is just not worth it from Nvidia (4060 yuck) and anything better than a 7900 GRE from AMD is just not worth it. At that price point the extra features from NVIDIA are just worth paying extra for.
RT will never not be a useless feature and a waste of performance imo, maybe the 5000s will finally nail it
RTX 4090 isn't solely for gaming. It might not be worth paying $800 more for this purpose. But for productivity, there are sides that are much better than AMD and definitely worth that difference. No, not just a bunch of games that have Ray Tracing still not worth $800, imo. Plus, not all Ray Tracing titles are similar to Nvidia ones.
RTX 4090 owners
Is this some peasant joke I don't understand!🤑
Sum up, if you play multiplayer and pvp focused games like (call of duty, csgo, rust, Tarkov, battlefield etc,)get a 7900 xtx if you play single story games like (cyber punk, last of us, Alan wake, avatar, etc) get a 4090, I have both and the 4090 really does shine when your just trying to get THE most realistic and mouth dropping single player immersion. And when playing basic pvp games with friend, 7900 xtx absolutely does the job giving a smooth 4k gameplay on basically every pvp game
I came here to my quarter check of the price-to-performance ratio.
I'm not a 4K player but for the price of a 4090 you still can get a 7900xtx and a X3D CPU.
The RX Is Budget Friendly Still Like Not 2000$
amd is sux thats why nvidia can set any price they want because no competition
Trashdeon gpus are useless
i wouldn't call 1000$ budget-friendly
Comments: I hate 4090 (users because they are rich people)
Considering the price difference, there doesn't seem to be that much of a difference.
These graphics cards are like phones , always another more expensive one on the way, why bother anymore
Turn off RT and keep $800 in your pocket. 😎
And lose access to DLSS, DLAA, RTX Video Super Resolution, RTX HDR, DLDSR, Integer Scaling, Nvidia Broadcast, Reflex, and about 20% performance.
@@GearheadK20C4AMD can do all that, just the names aren't similar.
if you really wanna do RT with AMD then it's possible. if AFMF2 isn't delivering a better performance, then I'd say get a lossless scaling app and choose x3 or x4 mode for frame gen, and you're good to go.
@awaiswasi354 bull💩
🤡
Trashdeon gpus are useless
don't buy the 7900xtx or any GPU at all and keep another 1000$ in your pocket. With this logic people would only buy food to survive and nothing else and everyone would be rich. But what is the point of being rich if you won't spent it ony anything?
Rtx 4090💪😍
when they don't burn :}
With how electricity is so expensive where I live, the wattage on the XTX is gonna cost me more in the long term
Its a poor investment imo. Higher temps, worse memory usage, higher wattage and lower frames paired with a bad upscaler and horrible RT implementation. Long term its a poor choice. Rather save for a 4090
A kidney or 2 kidneys, pass. I'll get the 4070 Ti SUPER/7900 XT for maximum FPS/dollar at the highest price.
Agreed, no need for highest end GPUs when there are better options, heck even RTX 4070 Ti/RX 7800 XT are also amazing choice and you can't go wrong with both cards
finally someone who knows the stuff.
@@Bilal.Hussain.Shaikh4070 ti for the price is awful, 7800 xt is better however. 4070 ti S is the best nvidia GPU imo.
@@awaiswasi354 oh my apologies, I meant to say used GPU, ops I forgot to mention that sincere apologies 😊
Edited: and yes, RTX 4070 Super Ti is amazing 😻
Comparison Rtx 4090 vs rx 7900 xtx is like rx 5700 xt vs rtx 2080ti in 2018
Кто то сомневался что 4090 даст пососать 7900? Тут вопрос цена производительность важнее...
ну пососать - это чересчур громко не так уж она и сосет, у 4090 76 миллиардов транзисторов и более 16 000 блоков ропс память 6Х а у 7900 58 миллиардов и 6 000 блоков и память не 6Х а отстает она не так и намного если это учесть то выйдет что сосет как раз 4090 к тому-же разница в цене более 2х раз.
I quite like the idea of price to performance ratio but then you would lose access to green features as I used those a lot. AMD is indeed never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity. 🤷🏻♀️
4090 for RT
As long you aren't activating RT and playing without that, the 7900xtx is a great card. But with RT. It's a big difference. Then NVIDIA cards have a clear advantage.
Amd in processer : 🗿
Amd in graphics card : 🤡
amd in processor this year🤡🤡🤡🤡
show me ur pc rigless
@@Joniwalkaway you sayin to me ?
Its crazy isnt it? Their cpu could go toe to toe with an i9 14900k/s in gaming at 6000mhz but their card saw an almost 2x loss in frames with Alan Wake alone and a 100% decrease in cyberpunk. And higher temps and poorer memory usage along with bad upscaling. Its clear GPU’s are not their strength. Their CPU’s are great at 6000mhz but they also start to show their weakness at anything higher and thats where intel reminds people why theyre still at number 1.
@@scizzorxyz rigless spotted and always talk shet about the competitor, even thought the only program that their use in real life are microsoft office 💀
more than 2x the price of 7900xtx rn, 4090 prices are crazy nowadays!
4090 king of gpu’s
And king of price😂
@@Bassota277the 4090 is twice as king as amd
@@zec4443 Brain wash
@@robinrufino8244 That doesn't take away the double crown from the 4090.
@@Bassota277😂 your stupid a#s will never understand that nvidia cards are not just made for gaming
In Snapdragon 10 Gen 2 Mali 1010
Will match the Nvidia GeForce 4090
Future is ready to run 12K&K premium Gaming on Android 🩷🩷🩷🩷🤍🤍
Memory speed seems low on the xtx or is that normal? Thanks for the vids!
As a XTX owner, more than happy with it
Pretty close in RDR 2 and Hogwarts!
reading this comments i see 2 types of people nvidia fan boys and amd fan boys. Also most of them don't even have 7900 xtx, 7900xt, 4080s, 4090 and they are telling every one that these are the best gpus. Also good benchmark
I love my rtx 4090 . Poor amd 😂😂
Mommy and daddy’s money 🥺
lmao, just wait till your card gets obsolete by amds new gen card... just you wait... ill be laughing
@@AyoDoesWTamd still 🤡
@@Winchester335you poor 😂
@@gerygamers4305 Yeah, but that, that clown vga will be clowning on your 1030. Oh sorry, it already is.
Why the rtx 4090 frame graphs flacuate a lot? you guys realize at that rate the gameplay will feel worse than the RX 7900 in regard to smoothness? ur benchmark is suspecious..
Can't buy but watching 😂❤🎉
Rtx 4090 boys playing in all lowest settings
It's crazy to think that the R9 Fury X was the last time AMD compete against nvidia's top end, that was almost 10 years ago.
But who are we kidding, AMD owns the consoles, AMD owns the servers, AMD is starting to take ground on the laptops....let's keep it real they dont even care about desktop gaming computers anymore.
You forgot 6950xt exist
Rdna 2 goes toe to toe with nvidia last gen,but they dropped the ball with rdna3.
@@kunamsbinallamode2409
What you talking about??? the 6950XT got obliterated by the 3090Ti .-.
A very true comment. AMD has seriously strengthened its hand in many areas. consoles and handheld consoles, desktop PCs and servers, artificial intelligence GPUs and notebook market. If you ask me, AMD seems to care more about the notebook market with its latest ryzen ai 9 300 will be very successful with the series
@@juanme555 You would have had to have been there to see it. I've never heard anyone ever give Fiji any recognition because these cards were DOA. Vega had a better launch than Fiji did.
These Fiji cards would only show their true power at 4k, but they were hobbled by their 4GB frame buffer. The 980ti tore the Fury X apart at 1080p, and the 980ti beat the Fury X handily at 1440p. The 980ti smacks the Fury X a bit harder at 1080p than the 3090ti does to the 6950xt at 4k.
Remember, back in 2015, 1080p monitors had just become mainstream, 2560x1440 was very expensive, and a TN panel 60hz 4k monitor was crude and expensive.
Yes, the 3090ti is faster but not by the margin you're thinking, even at 4k where the 3090ti is at its best. It's not like the gap between the 7900xtx and 4090.
The 6950xt and 6900xt put up an excellent showing against the 3090 and 3080ti at 4k, and even more so at 1440p.
Microcenter has the Gigabyte 7900xtx for $800......That's a deal and better if you overclock it a bit.
But maybe wait to see what the 5070/5080/5090 can do thou. By then, might as well wait for the 8900 xtx.
La 4090 est dans une classe à part, la XTX se compare à une 4080, pour être honnête.
a more than decent performance for the RX 7900 XTX but with the RTX 4080 super at the same price I think this graphics card makes little sense, now it will age quite well due to the 24gb of Vram. the best quality price of AMD is the RX 7800 xt and/or the RX 7900 GRE, very good performance for what they cost.
Same power draw but 4090 gives 20-40+ more fps.
Why 1440p? These GPUs especially the 4090 are meant for 4K.
Cause he has uploaded 4K benchmark for these cards bunch of times and people were asking for 1440P benchmarks
Yes, they are already tired of showing in 4k, so they switched to 1440p 😂
both these cards are for 1440p high refresh and 4K
You are too late for focusing on these cards. The comparison you say have already were on the beginning of the sales. (2022/12/13)
Today (2024/08/17)
With too many incidents of burnt power connector the 4090 is a hard pass even if I can afford 10 of them. There's this fear of me that it might burn my house if left for a while.
Insane how despite being much faster, the 4090 sometimes consume the Same amount of power or even less. The price ruins it tho😂, i hope the XTX doesn't have the weird ahh 100-125 W at idle bug anymore tho.
All that performance means nothing when you see AMD’s excuse of an upscaler. Cried tears of blood when i saw max FSR. Rather would go broke with a 4090. At least you get better side features like DLSS 3, better frame gen, RTX Remix, actual RT and PT implementation. Was actually considering a switch till i remembered all that
that's a gaslighting ass statement if I've ever seen one. FSR is really freaking legit right now, ur either ignorant or just being flat out dishonest af. It may not be a 100% match to dlss 3 but i doubt the average person is gonna tell the difference. "U cried tears of blood" lol what a theatrical basehead.
Just turn on RTX and AMD fans start crying 😭😂
4090 better. don't forget about rays and dlss (which is better than fsr).
Yea the RTX 4090 is killing the RX 7900 XTX
Who is playing at 1440p with either of these cards?
The 7900 XTX is too expensive for what it offers. At this price the 4080 super is a better deal (same price and better feature set, less power required, almost the same raster performance with much better RT performance). Compared to the 4090 any GPU looks to be cheap but then it's the best GPU for a significant difference.
7900XTX also poor performance + high power consumption and high operating temperature.
Price is lower 800 bucks.
65 degrees is a lot for a card ? Clearly seeing the size of the heatsink of the 4090 we know which one can get hotter lol.
😂😂
Eu prefiro a 7900 XTX, por ser mais barata que uma 4080 normal e ainda ter um desempenho superior em vários cenários. Não acho que o Ray Tracing justifique uma RTX. Para ligar o Ray Tracing (completo) é preciso cortar a resolução e a configuração. Mesmo na 4090 tem um custo alto para o path tracing. Não vale a pena na minha visão.
Bro rtx 4090 is selling at 1500 dollars
you should buy the 4090 Dragon
I have both and still watch this just cause I’m interested 😂
the battle of the gpu market is not at a high level, no one cares about the 4090, there are only a few dozen people who have this card, the real battle is with the mid-range cards, not that AMD could not make a better card than the 4090 I'm sure that at 350w it could produce a monster, but who buys them?
4:46 25 FPS MOMENT XDDD
100% overprice, 30% performance
Cyberpunk had a 90% increase, Alan Wake had a 50% increase, hogwarts legacy stood at 50%, Avatar at 55% . Your math isnt mathing but your coping is certainly coping.
We only parise amd on social media for their good gpu with good price but while buying gpu we choose nvidia only 😂 that's why even after many good gpu's amd not able to conquer gpu market
love my 4090, can’t wait to buy 5090😊
If you want best of the best then you have to pay premium.....
RX 7000+Ryzen 9000 is big joke from AMD.
Raytracing and upscaler for Radeon GPUs is not good. The performance uplift from Ryzen was disappointing at the very least.
However, Intel Core CPUs I'm avoiding until they fix the issue. Intel ARC for the first generation dedicated GPUs is actually decent for the price. Ray-tracing performance is actually decent and their upscalers XESS is actually on par with DLSS. Im only avoiding Nvidia because of the connector port issue.
I would love to see intel ARC's next generation GPUs completely destroyed AMD. Nvidia is an another league though.
like 4080 super
@@niko2002only if intel doesn't destroy itself first 😂
Brother are you stupid the 7000 are such a good value compared to Nvidia.
Yes the 9000 are not interesting for gamers but for somebody that needs a good workstation yes.
@@awaiswasi354 Yeah if they don't fix the issue, Intel CPUs will be a thing of the past, yet Intel GPUs have less issues, wierd times.
RTX 4090 is much more effective...
AMD was not cooking with that efficiency... Arc sleeping, Nvidia overpricing. this generation sucked so much that I might end up joining nv once more. also, I need a card for cuda anyways...
7900xtx is great for the price
Paying 5000dollars from an pc with an 4090 and not be able to play in 4k ultra with everything on at minimum 144hz wtf we talking about all this gurus 4090 the fastest card on the planet yeah hold my left bolocks atach to it a sagging braket pls bye
Dont buy nothing guys no amd intel invidia nothig for the next 3 years maybe the will understand how we feel .
Is that avatar game even good?
I think you the promotor Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090
400w is crazy
The 4090 is the top of the line and best card, the 7900 XTX is the "I don't have enough money for a 4090" option. If earn 1 Million every month you would buy the 4090, end of the discussion
That starfield... What a joke game
now turn off ray tracing
Cpu esta gargalando , ainda não existe cpu pra empurrar fps
4090 worth every cent. 7900xtx to pay £1000 for a card which plays 25fps in new games thanks no. I’m happy to overpay for nvidia.
кто в своём уме и не ведётся на уловки куртки насчёт лучей-которые по факту никто не видит,покупают амд карты.не ведясь на маркетинг.
AMD cards arent really made for RT
I agree its clear devs are leaning on nvidia tech the last 4 new games are all surrounding nvidia.
@@Человек-с3эwell it'd not our fault that devs are leaning on nvidia tech. The last 4 major aaa games are all promoted by nvidia and all utilize nvidia tech the most. So it's clear devs like what nvidia is doing and want there games to utilize the highest end software and hardware acceleration. Which is nvidia. So if yoy aren't buying an nvidia card right now you will be hindered badly in the future. Look at wukong or the new star wars outlaws, alan wake 2 etc. All based around nvidia technology qe have 6 releases that re all promoted by nvidia haha. Again that's not our fault thays just what's happening and if yoy can't take advantage of those games it's rough. Be ausw now devs are using built in rays without turning on ray tracing the way they utilize lighting will be better on nvidia technology and not as taxing on the card. Ita to the point now where 4070 ti supers are beating the 7900xtx in the new games.
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Amd 🤡 Nvidia 🔥
only if rocm comes to windows...
RX 7900 XTX yes
Comparing your results (Jan 2, 2024) to Steve (Gamers Nexus) some of your results are slightly on par, slightly higher, and some just way out in left field. Did you double check everything?
DON'T GET SCREW GUYS, im a professional techinician and i have so many 4090s broken of the pcie, memory chip pads broken, gpu pads broken, is insane how many gpus 4090s are broken, pcie power gets burned to! Worst card ever and not in fps of course
bs
It would help a lot of people either vertical mounted their heavy Graphics cards or used a brace. I come across used cards all the time, and half the time the backplane/PCB is twisted. Eventually this causes problems with the VRAM or cowos
that's why i nvr buy a flagship . i hv upgraded from 3070 Founders edition to gigabyte rtx 4070 ti super gigabyte eagle oc at launch 2024 jan from my 3yr old rtx 3070
I need 7900 xtx😊😊😊❤
AMD Good For Price
Radeon only good for gaming(not with RT)
the best card is corsair
🤡 people when they think 4090 is only made for gaming
7800 xt clears all in price and performance fur money
@circle679-m3i 7900GRE
Its trash
@@m.c6336 скажи то же самое,когда будешь перед зеркалом стоять
2160p? 🤔
The RX 7900 XTX cant handle 4k well, it would be a poor comparison. RTX 4090 would sit with high fps everytime it would be boring
7990XTX =4090
$800 expensive just 20 prcnt prfrmnc
I will be able to afford these cards from used market once RTX 6090 is launched.
4090 memory 10500 mHz?😮
NVIDIA GDDR6X x AMD GDDR6
@cesartoni86 wow! Maybe that us part of the difference 🤔
5-20 фпс стоит 800 долларов?))) мамонты купят
В чужих карманах интереснее?
@@Boraboar Я НЕ ЗНАЮ. ЗАЧЕМ ТЫ МЕНЯ ОБ ЭТОМ СПРАШИВАЕШЬ?
Can you please buy me RTX 4090 eish I need it😅, I wanna game😢