RTX 4080 SUPER vs RX 7900 XTX - Test in 9 Games
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- RX 7900 XTX 24GB vs RTX 4080 SUPER 16GB l 4K
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Games :
Starfield - 0:06
Cyberpunk 2077 - 1:06 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077
Cyberpunk 2077 | RT, DLSS\FSR - 2:13
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 3:16
Forza Horizon 5 - 4:16 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
Hogwarts Legacy - 5:22 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
Hogwarts Legacy | RT - 6:24
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 7:23 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesRDR2
Remnant 2 - 8:26
Alan Wake 2 - 9:20
Microsoft Flight Simulator - 10:28 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesMFS20
System:
Windows 11
Core i9-13900K - bit.ly/3SgY3xf
ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming - bit.ly/3scEZpc
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL38
CPU Cooler - Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 - bit.ly/3Pn2xVx
GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16GB - bit.ly/48U6jfH
RADEON RX 7900 XTX 24GB - bit.ly/3Hx6keI
32Gb RAM DDR5 6000Mhz - bit.ly/3BOxlni
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR RM850i 850W - bit.ly/3i2VoGI - เกม
Games :
Starfield - 0:06
Cyberpunk 2077 - 1:06 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077
Cyberpunk 2077 | RT, DLSS\FSR - 2:13
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 3:16
Forza Horizon 5 - 4:16 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
Hogwarts Legacy - 5:22 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
Hogwarts Legacy | RT - 6:24
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 7:23 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesRDR2
Remnant 2 - 8:26
Alan Wake 2 - 9:20
Microsoft Flight Simulator - 10:28 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesMFS20
System:
Windows 11
Core i9-13900K - bit.ly/3SgY3xf
ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming - bit.ly/3scEZpc
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL38
CPU Cooler - Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 - bit.ly/3Pn2xVx
GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16GB - bit.ly/48U6jfH
RADEON RX 7900 XTX 24GB - bit.ly/3Hx6keI
32Gb RAM DDR5 6000Mhz - bit.ly/3BOxlni
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR RM850i 850W - bit.ly/3i2VoGI
I have... insane drive timeout issues on several games with the 7900 XTX. Darktide is unplayable and I have had 2 RMA'd cards so far with the same driver issues, but I can run a 7600 RX on my system no issues. Phantom Brigade also drive timeouts, and a few DX12 old games like Deus Ex on DX 12 will crash, but DX 11 will not. I'd love to keep the 7900 XTX but... this issue makes it garbage.
Cyberpunk no issues, a few bigger games no issues. BUt you CANNOT rely on this card to be able to run something.
DO NOT. Get the 7900 XTX. Its drivers are insane, they are awful, AMD is not responding to us either. There's a hardware survey of 200+ people reporting this issue with hundreds of different hardware combinations. AMD will NOT answer.
@@ErgonomicChair hi, this sounds like there is a problem somewhere else in your system that only happens when you run a more powerful GPU (rx 7600 150W vs 7900xtx 350W).
and once the 7900xtx is running is stressing more your system that that flaw is noticeable, power supply, ram even the motherboard power delivery.
@@TheBoltcranck Can't be, I have a 1200 watt power supply. That and it runs Cyberpunk 2077 ultra perfectly fine, it has nothing to do with power draw as I can also run synthetic benches fine.
It IS an issue with the drives. DarkTide runs at 100 FPS, Cyberpunk at 60 FPS. Cyberpunk draws more power. Phantom brigade is less power/graphically draining than either and also crashes.
This is a flaw with the driver suite of AMD and has been reproted on a survey of 200 people now all with different configurations and AMD knows about the issue, have acknowledged it to us in emails, but release ZERO press statements or recalls. Starfield actually had this isuse but they patched it out quickly enough... so they KNOW the issue and are doing nothing to fix it.
Motherboard is an X670 Carbon Wifi, thing has zero issues, again, on Cyberpunk 2077. FAR more grpahically demanding than darktide.
@@ErgonomicChair hi, try disabling SAM bcuz for some users that helped in some motherboard models and maybe is motherboard vendor related in the bios.
@@TheBoltcranck Yeah, have tried this and XPO etc too, ntohing workd. This and there are around 200 responses on the hardware survey and it affects us all despite different hardware. It's... just horrid support for the 7900 XTX driver wise. No one can fix it but AMD, and even some verynew games like Darktide are unplayable for7900 XTX owners.
Crazy how some games just run like shite no matter what gpu you have
he used the most demanding games with insane settings to make the gpus struggle.
Real nowadays game developers just care about graphics and optimization is zero
they really ain't optimizing games properly anymore because of this upscaling DLSS/FSR bs 🤷
@@Zenbeau real
@@dallenishere7783 Did you check how both cards do well on RDR (which is also looks more beautiful and bigger) than Hogwarts or Remnant? The only demanding here is Alan Wake and Cyberpunk but that's just it.
In Germany you can buy a 7900XTX for 950€, the 4080 Super starts at around 1150€ and it has been like this for months (4080 was 1250€+ even).
Auch Strom kostet Geld :x
I got my 7900XTX for only 700€ brand new, fuck the power consumption.
Payed almost half of a 4080 😂
For months? The 4080 S has only been out for a couple of weeks.
same in finland. if you dont need ray tracing much then 7900xtx is better. Also for longevity the massive vram is great.
in bulgaria 7900xtx is 1100 euro the cheapest crap models ...
Can you make a comparison on 1440p? Would be much appreciated!
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@@Antipiperosdeclonyi think both 7900xtx and 4080s are straight overkill for 1080p.
@@dungeondeezdragons4242 no unless you use ultra with rtx on and 200% in game that allow it
am I the only one who thinks the most important comparison would be for 4070 ti super and 4080 super in 1440p/4k? there is not a single video on these two so far..
4070 Ti SUPER gets destroyed by the 4080 SUPER... 4070 Ti SUPER is there to upsell you to the 4080 SUPER.
@@laszlozsurka8991 bruh what its like a 10% difference at 1440p
@@andym171 What 10% difference? 4080 SUPER is about 20% faster than the 4070 Ti SUPER. A 20% increase can push you with 12 FPS which is enough to put you from 48 FPS to 60 FPS. Also the 4080 SUPER is 25% more expensive but you also gain 20% better performance so the 4070 Ti SUPER is just an upsell to the 4080 SUPER
Daniel Owen Made a Video For that already.
@@laszlozsurka8991 i wanna live where you live where the 4080 super is 20 percent more expensive.
4070ti super is 800 bucks where i live, the 4080 super is $1100
4080 super is honestly not worth the price lmao. then again more or less none of the gpus this generation are worth the price... when your gpu costs over a thousand bucks and still cant run any game at 4k max without worrying about framerate you've got a serious problem.
I guess if you don't need RT you can go with either one
Xtx gives better frametime and is 15-40% cheaper depending on your location. cheaper
@@dungeondeezdragons4242 ok so go buy amd no body cares
@@rochester3 Lol, calm down bro' :D
@@rochester3lol so let’s just ignore price cause I guess it doesn’t matter.
@@dungeondeezdragons4242 Ray tracing performance is worse than 4060Ti
It will be interesting to see how Unreal Engine 5 changes the ray tracing aspect of GPUs. The problem is that many game developers still use their own engine which might still create a demand for hardware ray tracing.
This is why every single game looks and behaves the same everyone is using the same engine with the same premade textures nothing is unique anymore
ue5 lumen makes RT useless...looks just as good if not better and doesnt tank your fps
Moral of the story both cards are strong enough to play any game 4k ultra you like and it just comes down to pricing, unless you really care about rt but let's be honest if you're in the middle of the game do you really see it?
I think the 4080 is a very good card for 4k heavy RT (and non RT) games if you use DLSS on balanced or performance with Frame Generation where possible.
And it might get better with future driver and DLSS updates. You can use 'DLSS Swapper' for tinkering with that.
Future driver updates will potentially improve both cards both are equal in performance except in ray tracing which will have to be a toggle for almost a decade still.
In the end it becomes budget, availability,use case.
And at that point amd is better overall but Nvidia does specific programming applications better and 50/50 on blender.
The moment you need all the vram you can get amd will outshine nvdia.
It's just trading blows and next gen with pcie5 is upon us the leap that the next gen could give us could be enormous.
Exciting times for sure !
@@mokurai8233
Tf u meam middle? Are you playing competitive game or someshit that you cant even see RT? Last time I remember developer still invest in scenery for player to admire.
suuure, you want super many many pixels, all on max
but ray tracing is bad? how did you get there?
@@minhhieunguyen8096 it means you won't see it unless you walk around and specifically look at the rt objects just to notice the ray tracing.
Nobody mentioning how the 4080 super is hitting the max vram in a few games. Kinda nuts
That is why you should get a 24gig card, i think
@@dungeondeezdragons4242no.
@@dungeondeezdragons4242 I agree. Really need amd to drop prices. I’m so broke lol
Nvidia taking the Apple approach to RAM pretending it’s made of gold and Vibranium.
Besides Vram 7900xtx is still winning in raw performance@@dungeondeezdragons4242
with the 7900xtx did yo have frame generation and super resolution on? it would be great to see geforce and adrenalin settings also
Nope all was tested on Native for both Gpu
@@KenneXS does amd have all features which also has rtx or which one is better ?
@@DianeFoxxx It's a very tricky question since Amd just released FSR3 is very great but nvidia RT & Dlss is still leading but vram is not that much if we compared to 24gb..
However 7900xtx is great on performance without RT on but downside it consume alot of power it reach 460w while rtx 4070ti S better performance RT ion & Dlss is great but only 16gb & it consume between 240w & 300w
dlss3 is useless. Lossless scaling killed this crap out. LSFG is way better than DLSS3 and just 7 bucks on steam
The difference in power draw though
50w?
@@noumenom1345 i think 50w is too much for 4fps LOL and NVIDIA have better temps, Core and memory clocks and AMD use AVG. 0.5GB more VRAM... for what?????😅😅 there is sovereignly 3:1 for NVIDIA, AMD have only bigger VRAM thats All...
@@kenjibushido26 4fps? Some games grant a bigger fps difference lol. And regarding the vram, its called future proofing, the industry i changing liek crazy and in a couple of years we will need a minimum of 20gb. Be quiet if you have nothing good to say
@@oscarnilsson2872 AVG. 4fps kiddo dont cry with your futureproof AMD at your home only one who need too much GB VRAM is AMD with his "futureproof" memory clock
The XTX use the old and reliable connector, that's one point that has to be considered.
In the 4080 super case, better to undervolt it to avoid "surprises" with the new conector, because there were cases of melting contector with the 4080.
In Brazil ( my country ) the diference of this cards is 7900 XTX for 6500 Reais and RTX 4080 SUPER for 7700 Reais (lowest prices I found), in dollars the difference would be something close to 250, so the cheapest 7900 XTX costs 1300 dollars and the RTX 4080 SUPER costs 1550
This is Brazil
$1550?😱😱
@@A_dhit_a_m_ado the L
In Australia the 7900xtx is $1500 AUD and the 4080 super is $2000 AUD
@@asdfg4330it's almost the same price in India too.1500 $ to 2250$ for 4080 super
Could you compare these cards again in 1440p? I'm considering buying a 1440p 240Hz monitor, and I don't think either of these cards are truly suited for 4K.
new games themselves are shite bro, do yourself a favour and get one of these GPUs and pair it with a 7800x3s or something. It'll easily last your 7+ years
@@anodyneliniment2326 Can vouch for the 7800X3D being an absolute fucking demon. This CPU absolutely stomps anything that even attempts to tank it lol
1070€ vs 1350€ in lesser price.
Seems like 4080S not worth 300€ more.
Where are u search noob? 4080 cost 1100$ at minimum price, u r ignorant
The temp and power draw
@@Universeverse923?
@@NickT9330 the temp and power draw of trashdown is 💩
@@Thejacketof-huang My 3080ti consumes +400w. So it's trash, right?
The 7900xtx is what the rtx 4080 super should’ve been when it comes to the better framerates on the 7900xtx
4 FPS
SAPPHIRE PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XTX I just ordered one of these on NewEgg and got it for $919 with a promo with $20 off
in bulgaria 7900xtx is 1100 euro the cheapest crap models ...
One going for $909.99 on Newegg rn, 7900XT going for $719.99 on Amazon
@@xxx333mmm Croatia here. 1152€ for the cheapest 7900xtx and 1350€ for 4080 super
SAPPHIRE PULSE is the best satisfaction model of Radeon RX 7900 XTX lineup
Thats a steal
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DDLS vs FSR 3? or DLSS vs native? Because if it's DLSS vs NATIVE it doesn't make sense, I think the correct option would be to turn on FSR 3, right?
Was DLSS on for the 4080S on these tests?
He takes it off for some of them but when it’s turned on it performs better then the other card
Whats the point in spending the money to get either card when you still cant achieve 4k 100+ fps in modern games.
Id rather play in 2k and get a 7800xt, wait a few more years and see if theres a massive jump like when we got the 1080ti.
Its not that the cards aren't powerful enough, the games are just way too crappy and unoptimised
And that's why I play at 1440p ultrawide with a 4080 super. Will never move to 4K.
@@caribbaviator7058 yeah spending 1000 dollars to play on 2k
@@parasgupta8411 My monitor is 3440x1440. My mistake
That resolution is still demanding.
@@parasgupta8411 Nothing wrong with playing on 2k tho and higher frames. Ofc this depends on what type of games you play. However I agree that the current market is overpriced for GPU's but that theme has been going on for a few years.
I take it you didn't have Fluid Motion Frames on in AMD settings?
Awesome video. Can you do an updated video with Fluid Frames turned on plz? It’s a game changer apparently.
LoL😂
Everyone should go for the Ada card with the biggest L2 cache crossbar that you can afford.
For what's essentially the same raster performance for the same price, I would prefer Nvidia this time. But still 7900 XTX and 4080 SUPER are priced like flagships but are just mediocre.
7900xtx is like 900
@@phantom0590 I think I saw it at $930, but I think $70 is worth 2x better RT performance and DLSS, because it certainly is pretty good to have. Though, 4070 SUPER is not worth $100 more than the 7800 XT lol, and also I think the 7900 XT needs to drop more in price.
In my country the 4080 s is 800 more than the 7900 xtx, the rquivalent of roughly 180 in dollars
calma calabreso
4080s is 200€ more here in Germany, not sure if its worth it, personally i would go xtx because i dont care about RT.
Please, PLEASE, make a 1440p version of this comparrison.
Are this GPU´s simulatet?
despite the FPS difference, did you notice any visual differences? did a card have better image quality?
Do you live in antartica? why are the cpu temps not even hitting 50 with an i9?
Undervolt
Because you've been led to believe that the i9 is a very hot card, when in reality, under normal conditions it isn't.
The i9 doesn't perform that badly in most games in terms of efficiency. Most people blow intel's power consumption and heat problem(which ill admit is still isnt ideal) out of proportion, with supposed '300W' and '100C' temperatures only showing after running the CPU in extremely intensive applications for extended periods of time.
@@auritro3903 True.
You can set the minimum settings to 720, this will be a test for the processor. But no one plays like that. this is silly. The processor load occurs when rendering a large number of frames; he prepares frames for the video card. Here the settings are at maximum and the number of frames is small. The processor is relaxed
*Test please in 1440p for 240 hz monitor users!*
I have the 4080s and it slaps for 1440p 240hz. Stuff like Path traced Cyberpunk still looks unreal in 1440p and I get like 100-120 fps. Also nearly any FPS game I get 240+ fps. I use DLDSR as well for some single player games to upscale to 4k, which works great most of the time.
Na
I love how people point out the power difference like they aren’t giant BS’ers. Oh, you were worried about the extra wattage with your $1000 GPU were you? *Insert Willy Wonka Smirk*
_Rich enough to spend $1000+ on a GPU but poor enough that you’re worried about less than a 1% difference on your total power bill._
*^This hypothetical person doesn’t exist in real life lol.*
God I hate memes and snarky internet smuggery
@@johnmoore1495 The GPU is only 0.01% of your house value, why dont we spend more?
@@DungxxHen confused at what you’re trying to say. That’d be a $10,000,000 home lol
I run a server (work/research related) 24x7 at home that uses ~200 watts average, that's now costing me ~£600 a year with current UK energy prices, it's not pre COVID energy prices where an extra 50 watts might set you back an extra £50 years, that now closer to £150.... while I can currently afford that difference ,mainly because I'm a bit older now and only game for maybe 16 hours a month, but I certainly do pay attention to such operational costs, and if it was the younger me playing at least the equivalent of a couple hours a day it would certainly matter with current energy prices, at least here Europe.
i dont get Nvidia, what is the difference between 4070 Ti super and 4080? WHat is the diffrence between 4070 ti super and 4070 super?
4080 every so slightly faster then 4070 ti super and the dif between ti super and super is about 5 - 10% faster tho it depends on game obv
MHO, both these cards aren't meant for 4K. It would be meant for 4K if the devs weren't that lazy to fully optimize their games to run great on PCs. But I guess, that will take a few years for devs to really consider us as PC gamers to optimize their games to accommodate us.
Nevertheless, these GPUs can run perfectly fine on 4K but I would suggest 1440P. If you are a streamer especially on Twitch, then 4K gaming is pointless because viewers won't really see the difference. As for 1440P, thats the go to resolution in 2024 and beyond for now of course until games fully matured to run 4K res properly on PC. VRAM isn't an easy for GPUs these days, its the Devs that's flippen lazy to optimize the games.
Nvidia- great for RT+DLSS, streaming, content creation and work of course. Power efficient. Caters for everyone but greedy like Apple.
AMD- gaming only. Very Power-hungry. Caters for gamers only and make GPUs affordable for now but soon will skyrocket their pricing because AMD doesn't really make much profits.
I have an RTX 4070 and I am quite happy with it even though I only have 12GB Vram.
I believe that if I had both these cards, I would've just tweaked a few settings in-game to get 100+ FPS on 4K. Unless bro didn't enable any special features on Team Green and Team Reds GPUs.
Great video bro 👍 👌 👏
I've got the 4080s and honestly its not that impressive considering the price, and also, who would play 60fps with RT ? Nowadays we all have at least 120/144hz monitor. and it sells for freaking 1326.10usd here. crazy right
Yep bought the 4080S and it's a bit underwhelming.
My monitor max is 100hz ultrawide and there are some games that fall below that.
When I noticed that my PSU was struggling with the XTX (400W++ powerdraw) I switched to the RTX. A bit less fps but more stability).
Genius. Buy new gpu with same performance instead of undervolting or power limiting current gpu
Expected nothing better from nvidia buyers
@@EpicBunty I don't buy GPU to tinker them with undervolt or such things, I buy GPU to play. I plug, I play Amd fan boy.
Said no one ever 😂😂😂😂
You cant go wrong with either of those two
Both of em are wrong in the most core factor PRICE!!!
@@samiraslan9735 if you watch these videos then its meant to show which one you wanna buy, if you watch these videos you shouldnt give a shit either cost above 1000$
you're brainwashed. GPU did not used to be as expensive as they are now and sheeple like you keep buying it and raising demand. there comes a time to put your foot down
@@samiraslan9735 you think now price is bad. But it is only going to get worse with future generations...
Everyone is looking at GPU performance but I saw no1 talk about how much more power the AMD GPU is using compared to the nVidia GPU...
AMD fanboys hate it when you bring that up.
*Where is the Witcher 3 Next-Gen?*
Hey Mate , i want to buy new 4800S or the 7900 XTX , mainly I play PubG can you include PUBG in a test
You don't need these videocards for this game. You need a good processor
Nvidia change his Strategy to stay thief : release a new gpu almost the same of Rtx 4080 (+2 fps) and put it at the price it should be at the start for the rtx 4080
Bro you dreaming??? RTX 4080 was $1200 before and now they released RTX 4080 super for $1000 what more you want
4080's have over a 300 to 600 premium over the 7900 xtx. Making the 7900 xtx a no brainer. Thank the dirty Nvida scalpers.
Except the massive power draw of the 7900. Ouch.
@@mintymusan extra 5 cents a day of power consumption means nothing.
@@anonymoose2474 So then you don't mind the higher power consumption of the Intel CPUs, right?
@@mintymus I don't really care either way, no. I'm not a fanboy in either direction
Nvidia has always been overpriced bullshyt
Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24G would be the best XTX 7900 graphics card you can get. Not bad for a budget and probably outperforms the ATX 4070 TI super in performance. Although the ATX 4080 wins in performance here in 4k gaming. The XTX 7900 has similar performance in 1080p and 1440p with close or even better in some games FPS. But for 4k gaming. 4080 wins. Even better 4090 if you can afford it
the 7900XTX is underclocked and Power limited ? Mine runs at around 2900 MHz with Memory of 2700 MHz and Power Consumption of 450W
Same question xtx literally runs at 400w out of the box, kinda funny to watch comparison video where one card is power limited by the user... next lets try power limited 4090 vs xtx
@@ImAziby It would have been funny if he undervolted XTX and fine tuned bit memory also. It would have taken less power but run better. What im saying its not always so simple that only power = better at least with amd. Everyone knows last 2 gens from AMD cards they run faster when undervolted.
We need those comparisons but in triple 1440p monitors for us sim racers, 3 1440p monitors is a bit more pixels than 4k and will require a lot more power. My 7800XT is barely running iRacing at 100-130fps at mediocre graphics, and this is a ancient racing game.
I also have triples 1440p for sim racing. Dirt Rally 2 avg 90 fps, 40 avg high preset in ETS2, for a 12 year old game. I guess my 8700k and 6800XT are too weak, gonna upgrade to a 14600k to see if there's any improvement. We've gone far beyond the 4k realm. Fucking hell.
@@QuanLuuI have a 5800x3d but the 7800xt might not be cutting it, I might have to upgrade to a 4080 Super or the new 5000 series and maybe leave the 7800xt for a 2nd PC later on.
@@TheACCHRM Thoughts on the 7900XTX? In my country, you can buy a top 7900XTX (Sapphire Nitro+) for the money of an entry 4080S (MSI Ventus). From what I researched, AMD for rasterization and Nvidia for ray tracing. Haven't tried ray tracing, not sure if I need it tho.
I will not deny that the 7900 XTX is an amazing GPU... For gaming. But, I still ended up going with an Msi 4080 Super OC for $1029 (actually more bc of taxes). Mainly because I wanted my next build to be balanced between productivity and gaming.
In Europe the minimal real price are :
4080 sup : 1100euro
7900xtx : 950 euro
It is 150 euro difference but at the same time RT in 1440p is fully playable on Nvidia so it can be a good idea too
Rt? For the whole 4 games that actually support it?
What about power consumption, dlss support much more games than fsr and stabel drivers? And used Nvidia gpu easier to sell. t@@dungeondeezdragons4242
@@dungeondeezdragons4242it's not 2018 but cope
@@coroysaa7074 ok, name serious games that actually support rt, aside from cyberprank, control and alan wake.
@@coroysaa7074 ok, list worthwhile games that support rt.
i got 7900 xtx and really wanted to like it, got refund after 4 days of really trying to like it. So many bugs and glitches, Put old 2070 back in for normality again.
Typical AMD.
Even though they are the same price and Nvidia wins in some games I'd still get the RX7900XTX , since the AMD Card still wins most of the time and has more VRAM that I will probably need in the future. But at least this time the performance is close enough for the price for me to at least consider going with Nvidia for the first time since my gtx 1050Ti
Can AMD change your mind if xtx price gets lowered may be for 799$?
RT performance is going to be much bigger bottleneck sooner than VRAM..
More VRAM that you will need in the future. Wrong way of thinking in so many ways... But hey it's your money
no bro. Sorry. Because the current memory clock speed of 7900 xtx will never allow the use of 24 GB vram. You can look at the 4070 ti and 3090 tests. 4070 ti is %2 faster than 3090. (in native comparison) Even though 3090 is 12 gigs more, you will not be able to find a solution to the clock speed. Because any 12 GB GPU card that will come a few years from now will give 60 fps at 4k, while the 24 GB xtx will perhaps have a power below 30 fps. More vram will be of no use in this case
@@thescarecrow57 cap
Can we maybe for once in our life get a video where it's not just running and have actual fights/battles or something where we can see how it would affect the fps? But i guess i doesn't really matter for me as i never use high settings and will be buying high end pc anyway.
My guess is that it would affect the consistency of the test as the scene would be unpredictable between test runs.
*Test please again in 2560*1440 (2K)!*
Thank you so much
BROOO, please, compare 5700x3D vs 5800x3D, nobody in the world did that test ((
why 5800x3d still stronger than 5700x3d that is new why would amd let 5700x3d be faster than 5800x3d it wont sell them if they do that
Am I missing something? I have a 7800xt and I don’t run it in ultra on everything but I can get 100 fps when playing 4k. I’m guessing this is more just “raw” or no adjustments in adrenaline, turning motion blur off, etc. ? Cause I literally just sold my 7800xt to grab a 7900xtx 😂 hope it’s worth it!
7900 XTX + Ryzen 9 7950X3D how many watts would I need?
Now what about productivity like blender Optix vs HIP? I bet 4080 S double the cycles render performance against 7900 xtx
Actually no, HIPRT is almost as fast as OpTiX and the 7900XTX is only 10 seconds behind the 4090
@@82_930 The thing is as far as I know, HIPRT still under development so it can't render volumetric clouds or smoke properly, while Optix already a solid engine.
@@82_930 That can't be right. I was able to test both the 4090 and a 7900xtx and the two were worlds apart. I used both for Blender and Unreal Engine projects.
At the launch of 7900 xtx it gave performance similar to rtx 4080 (without ray tracing) now it is better than 4080 super amd cards are sure laike fine wine
Nah at start it gave performance worse than 4080 even without ray tracing
@@slmonbhoi2246 There was never a point where 7900 XTX wasn't faster than 4080 in raster. 4080 has always been behind in raster and ahead in RT. What's really interesting is most XTX are AIB models which are 5% faster (10% faster if overclocked) than the models used in these benchmark comparisons. Use my mildly overclocked Merc 310 in this same comparison and the 4080 super looks like a 4070 Ti
I don't think your test is very honest, it's impossible for the 13900k to have such low consumption, I have the 14900k under UV and on cyberpunk it's around 160watts in 4k
He undervolted?
C'est pas mal mais pas assez vieux. Moi c'était Street fighter 2, Nba Jam ou ISS Pro Evolution 2 !
Everybody talking about the 5 fps difference whit no RT, but have you seen the 100Watt More power consumption of the 7900xtx ..
People still buy Intel latest CPU's also... many dont care about power draw. It was same with 30 series nvidia cards that consumed more than AMD yet they still bought it 3080's. In the end is what matters is perf vs cost.
Literally no one cares about power consuption man. You are buying a 1000 USD card. NO ONE CARES BRO. The fact that you say this means you dont even own a PC better shuit yo ass
Nvidia for RT, DLSS 3, Upscaling image quality, power consumption, VR, Streaming, Video HDR and Upscaling, upcoming RTX Real HDR.
AMD XTX is like buying a last gen GPU for 5 extra rasterized fps. Seems so worth it.
In another comment another person shared info about amd's improvement in all areas. Might be worth checking it out
you have low fps even with RT and DLSS so its pointless .... also less than 1% of people even own a HDR display.. 7900XTX costs only a little more than the 4070 Ti Super... the 4080 super is 150-200$ more expensive than the 7900XTX
imagine typing this with a straight face
Don’t forget Nvidea is best for Working in Blender, Game engines, Substance Painter, and other professional workloads.
All those are great if you make game mods. Or, if you do anything outside the narrow scope of gaming Nvidea is the way to go
AMD sucks big time in VR performance, their best 7900xtx cant compete with even a 4070s
Which video card should I take 7900xтх or 4080?
xtx
xtx will be more future proof. just put win power profile on high performance. AMD cards do not like the windows balanced mode atm. (dx crashes will be completely avoided this way)
@@jorgalbertkonigseder Terrible efficiency though. Much higher power draw for AMD. Ouch!
One more time with Fluid motion frames.
And that is why I got myself a 4080 super. As soon as there is raytracing, the AMD card just falls apart.
Yeah. I feel like I should’ve waited before I got my XTX but I got a killer deal on it for $800 on FB market
@@pluschy7886 7900XTX at 800$ sounds like a steal ngl
doesn't matter if nvidia or amd both lose over 50% fps in heavy rt, not worth it. Both can do software raytracing similar, hardware RT aint worth the fps cost.
I've had ray tracing cards for 6 years now and I can honestly say I've turned on ray tracing for a grand total of maybe 10min.
AMD is also completely cancer when it comes to heat,power draw, drivers, coil whine. And the list goes on. AMD is great for cpus. But gpu's aren't their thing.
Same price, but 4080 S is more efficient and has better drivers and technologies.
You mean it has ray tracing. And they aren’t the same price. And the Radeon has a lot more memory so it will be better for compute.
Total BS comment 😂 7900XTX is way better without Ray Tracing gimmick and especially on 4K since 24 Gigs of VRAM is needed on many games nowadays...
No. 16GB is enough for 4K.@@TheLapari
@@devcoelho He's a delusional AMD fanboy.
@@DungxxHen Yes.
I bought 4080 for $870 with 2 years warranty, while cheapest 7900xtx cost $960 here. Outside America, Australia and Europe, Nvidia is cheaper.
Thats ridiculous. I have a 970 and i want to play 4k games. 10 years after the initial release and few gpus have a fair price for 4k gaming
4080 the best.. Much-much better RT performance, and much lower energy consuption, so quieter! This is fact! The decision is clear! For me, these two things are the main aspects, the ~ 15-20% price difference is secondary to me!
buy it and post it
@@asdfg4330 I've had a 4080 for a while now, I don't need to buy one, I've got one at the moment! I said I prefer energy efficiency and good RT performance! Not just for gaming, but also because I render in - Blender 3D editor - in Optix render mode! However, to give you an idea of what I'm talking about... I limited the maximum power consumption of my card to 250 watts! 3Dmark Port Royal -- at default setting I get 17510 points. Sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less, depending on the automatic frequency control. In games I always use the RT function where possible! The card is very quiet when used this way, and I am particularly sensitive to this! Unfortunately, AMD cards with RT or using the HIP renderer in Blender don't even come close to this level at this power consumption! I emphasize, at this power consumption! Yes, the 4080 costs more, but it's not unaffordable. The 4090 was not an option for me, because of the high power consumption and the melting connectors! I didn't want to risk the latter! The 4080 is perfectly acceptable, I have been using it for over a year. Some people have the car as a hobby and spend 10,000 Euro every 2-3 years, but that would be a luxury for me! The petrol is unrealistically expensive, it would take a small fortune a year, and so would the service when the time comes! Compared to that, it's a "penny" item, symbolically of course! I upgrade video cards every 4 years, in that time, I can easily save up what I need! I know it's a "lot" of money, but to each his own...
yea the power efficiency of the 40 series is crazy good. The 7900 XTX only beats the 4080 via brute force. not very elegant but it works
Yeah, 4080 super is much better buy
No
One problem....I love RT in all games and PT in Cyberpunk even more,so you can kiss XTX goodbye
Path tracing in Cyberpunk? Kiss the 4080 goodbye lmao. That shit even brings the 4090 to its knees. Ray and pathtracing are alpha/beta technologies for which us fools with overpriced GPUs are the Guinee Pigs. Why on earth people would rather have RT at 60fps, over no RT at 144+ is absolutely beyond me... it's staggering.
The cards are pretty even with each other. It will come down to features and price for some people. Sadly most people are gonna go with brand over all else but thats for those types of people.
If its strictly price I would buy the amd card. But if nvidias encoder (for streaming and recording) , and the rt performance is worth the extra cost then i would go with that.
If you are a prospective buyer never let brand bias sway ur decision. Both companies have had bad drivers and both companies have had high power draw and high temps before. Just go with what fits ur needs.
for non Ray Tracing radeoon is good but when RTX ON is slow... hope RX 8000 series or 9000 can AMD make it powerfull
AMD will always be a whole gen under NVIDIA at RT.
they can easily catch up but for some reason they dont@@laszlozsurka8991
@@laszlozsurka8991 Always? 😂 Avatar uses RT by default and their performance is nearly the same
The difference won't get any better with the next Generation. To make matters worse, AMD is NOT going to come out with enthusiast class RDNA 4 cards. The highest models you'll see will be the RX 8800 xt and maybe an 8850xt down the line. The RX 8800xt is supposedly going to be as fast as the RX 7900xtx but it will be 40% cheaper.
Rumors say AMD tried to make a high end, MCM, RDNA 4 card to take on the 5090, but it would have ended up costing around $2400usd.
7900xtx wins. And something is to point. Power draw was low, becouse it can go up to 460w. Core frequency was low, it can go up to 3000-3100 mhz.
So there's a lot more performance that can be squeezed from 7900xtx. (I have one. The nitro+)
7900 is way less efficient. +50-100W just for a few more FPS? Ouch!
no matter how much u hate nvidia and try to justify amd but 4080 s is really the clear winner here. pretty much identical rasterisation performance, 50%-100% better rt performance, 50-100 watts lower power draw, dlss, cuda advantage in productive softwares, nvidia features like nvidia broadcast, and more. really the only thing xtx has is more vram but 16 gigs should be enough for most games anyways.
Real world pricing right now is $940 vs $1150, that’s the main problem.
@@johnmoore1495 well, it depends. xtx is also around the same price. u may get a 100 usd off if u lucky. but i mean when a person is choosing between these gpus athat has 1000 usd msrp, would u really think that person will care for 50-100 bucks? aside from maybe slightly better ''future proofing'' xtx has with it's extra 8 gigs of memory, there is really no reason to pick the amd card here.
24 gb can make people run and buy the rx 7800xtx with no hesitation
So get more fps with amd with ray tracing off or have ray tracing on and have both be unplayable but nvida has 15 more fps
I get 45 fps on cyberpunk on 4K max settings on a rtx 4070 ti super.
Set ambient occlusion and reflections to low you will hardly notice a difference but your fps will increase a lot! Try it
I get 200 fps on amd 7900xtx 4k cyberpunk
Having had a 7900 XTX for 6 months, I'm glad I switched to a 4080 S. I now have a much quieter & stable card, no more insane coil whine, 110c hotspot and crashing software when using features like ReLive..
Please elaborate. As a potential buyer of the the cards in question, i am very interested in what you mean by "stable card" vs "unstable card" and how you used it.
Stable = Smooth stable FPS, no significant lag spikes while gaming, no crashing software
Unstable = Crashing software, annoying lagspikes / dips
I never had issues with a Nvidia card, but I have with AMD. Software especially.@@dungeondeezdragons4242
@@dungeondeezdragons4242they’re stable. If my completely none tech savvy friend can use his for the last 2 months and not have a problem, I think you’re good lol.
just his card i have nothing but good with my xtx but dont get a stock one to be safe @@dungeondeezdragons4242
@@dungeondeezdragons4242he means in term of driver stability in game i think
XTX and its software has given me nothing but trouble recently.
if you use 7900x3d as GPU will that fps goes higher for AMD?
The 7900 XTX is cheaper and offers more pure rasterisation, but at the cost of higher TDP and suffers significantly worse performance at raytracing. The 4080 super is more expensive and is marginally weaker at rasterised graphics, but excels at raytracing, draws less power, and comes with the added benefits of NVIDIA software features like DLSS and support for streaming.
It's entirely up to user preference, but if I had the money, I'd personally choose the AMD card.
P.S. I almost forgot to mention the VRAM capacity! The 7900 XTX has 24 GB, and the 4080 Super has 16. Currently, both are more than sufficient for modern games, but the 7900 XTX may age more gracefully due to the larger capacity.
I can guarantee you that AMD card is not going to age more gracefully. More and more games are going to be using RT. Unreal 5 games with dynamic ToD are all gonna use it. You are gonna run into terrible RT performance lot sooner than you will run into VRAM limitation of 16GB..
RT is overrated, I choose AMD
Nahh pathtracing it's other thing
your brain is overrated
All I hear is that you are broke. RT makes light and reflections better. It's worth paying an extra 10%. And it's gonna improve. More and more games will have RT. It's gonna become a standard because even consoles have RT now.
@@TheRadiantKnight_AMD cards aren’t cheap either but for some people they just make more sense
@@Andrewt872 well, they make zero sense to me because they are expensive and can't run RT properly. Even the 7900 XTX struggles to do it. I mean if you don't want RT just get a cheap GPU because without RT games are not really demanding. This is where AMD starts to make sense with their 6600
Program name please what shows temp and % ?
Msi afterburner with rivaturner
What is the difference between Cyberpunk test 1 and 2? Why is the 7900 worse in the second test?
Because Ray Tracing sucks ass on AMD CARDS
@@mglkeiser1532 ahh, didn't see that. Thx
@@mglkeiser1532 and Ray Tracing is also a gimmick most people won't even use, because it reduces fps way too much on any card...
@TheLapari no, it is totally worth it this generation on games like Cyberpunk, especially with DLSS3 the "fake" frame generator, which is honestly also very good
Ray tracing, but there's something wrong with that comparison, is really weird that the 4080 is getting way more fps with ray tracing (even with dlss3) than native without ray tracing.
RX 7900 XTX wins
Nope
@@laszlozsurka8991 Yes it does, obviously.
@@TheLapari Not in raytracing and up-scaling technologies.
@@laszlozsurka8991 But overall it wins, stop lying to yourself 😂You can clearly see AMD having better fps on most titles here. FSR 3 is basically as good as DLSS and works on ANY gpu. Only RT (which is available on like 1% of all games) goes to 4080S. 💁♂
@@TheLapari fsr is not as good as dlss, please dont spread misinformation
What nobody will tell you is Nvidia looks way better in real life when it comes to image quality
Light and reflections seem to be handled better by RTX.
2:13 You say the game runs at 4K in description but you used DLSS quality? And 7900 XTX can't use the DLSS. What is the Fairness?
not DLSS but it can use FSR. have a good look around. games aren't being optimized properly anymore. we are forced to use sht like DLSS cuz all these new games are really demanding to play and require the very best card
4080s best choise right now.
7900XTX consumes 100Watts more for 8 fps. Nice
I've under-volted mine and use 100-120 watts less for the same performance.
@@googlehelpdesk That's Awesome.
@@googlehelpdesk damn
you had to put in work to match nvidia lol@@googlehelpdesk
When u have AMD gpus you can easily undervolting the GPU using AMDs own software.
Hola gente, se ve constantemente comentarios sobre el consumo elevado que puede llegar a consumir la 7900 XTX. Entiendo que no todos cuentan y me incluyo con una fuente de poder de al menos 1000w o 1200w., pero si ese fuera el caso y tubiese ese tipo de fuente, me importaría un cuerno cuanto me consuma la placa, mientras me rinda lo que tiene que dar estaré tranquilo. Sacando esto, aunque tenga menos cuda core que su contrincante, pero tiene más cantidad de transistores, más ancho de banda de memoria, más vram, más bits anchura del bus de memoria, más TFLOPS, mayor Índice de textura, con todo esto, sin duda para mí la 7900XTX encara su vida a un futuro más extendido.
nVidia 50W less power consumption FTW
DLSS destroys the amd card lul
RT destroy AMD card aswell, 7900xtx made for fanboys only.
7900xtx crashes on almost EVERYTHING. You can't even play Wuthering Waves for 15 minutes. The finals crashes too, just like Fallout 76. Monster hunter rise, and Helldivers 2 are both still unplayable.
No one worth to buy 😸 If you still cant play games 120+ fps high settings with 4k resolution... Money grab :) Then they will launch rtx 5000 series and rx 8000 series, again asks 1.5k euro for their top end graphics cards with 40% versus previous gen and would be still not achievable desired frames by gamers. At worst Ray tracking integrated implementation is coming for new games, so you wount be able to turn it off... So agaib the same story will be waiting. Gta 6, FC7 new battlefields etc... And everyone again will cry that they cant achieve 100+fps with their 4k monitors :D. I just want to tell that is high end cards is just not worth so much money as sellers asks...
😂😂😂100% true
Все спорят, нужно rt или нет, а вывод-то только одни из видео: на сегодня топовый сегмент видеокарт еле-еле дотягивает до 60+ fps в играх в 4К. И то с костылями типа dlss. Короче, как сидели на full HD, так и продолжаем. Для 4К запас небольшой у сегодняшних карт или вообще нет.
MSRP may be 999 vs 999 US dollars, but in reality on any given average day in the US the 7900 XTX is 920 and the 4080 Super is 1150. I do believe that the 4080 Super is the better card overall, but it's not a whopping 230 dollars better. If you are one of the few lucky ones to be able to grab a 4080 Super for the super rare 999 MSRP price then yes, it's the better deal. Thing is though, the 7900 XTX is going to keep dropping in price, and the 4080 Super will not drop lower than 999 for a long time.
7900 XTX win.
Why a 4080 super if it is at the same price:
You get better drivers (prolly idk)
Supported by more games(nvidia sponsors a lot of games ya know)
Much more famous to flex on
Cuda cores
Rt performance obv
Much better at workstation tasks
What else does one would want?
Blatant AMD fanboy spotted
@@Birdman._.problem is they’re not actually the same price. 7900XTX has been $940 for a while now and you can’t even find a 4080 Super for under $1150 right now. $210 difference and that’s in America, it’s even worse in Europe from the comments I’ve read.
Really the only situation I see the Super being more useful is if you have a work flow that supports it or if you actually use Raytracing, which I think is cool in cinematic games. But anything that’s fast paced, I immediately turn it off.
Please tell me how the Xtx won
@@ZainalOden 7900 XTX 24 GB , 4080 Super 16 GB
Ray Tracing off 7900 Xtx winner
Ray Tracing on 4080 super winner
“LoOk At ThAt PoWeR dRaW”
🤡
Amd fan boy choose whichever brand is for which is better
@@mystery_1101 _Meanwhile I used Nvidia my whole PC gaming life (2013 to 2023) up until a couple months ago_
Certified AMD Fanboy™️
powerdraw is weirdest thing. when i had 1080 it consumed around 150 w and 7900 xtx now around 300 but in electrometer it comes only 20 kwh higher and no diff in cost
so xtx is 5-10fps more over 4080 BUT
the xtx uses 50-70 extra watts to do it
I see lots of complaning about 50 watts more power draw on rx7900xtx , but so many yet pair rtx4080 with intel cpus that uses 200 watts more to run similar fps .
That complaining on power draw is nonsense, just hating amd thats all you guys do ,
4080 super all the way
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