Nick Robertson Requests Trade...Now What? | SDP
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss the trade request made by Toronto Maple Leafs forward Nick Robertson. Should they trade him? How do they replace him in the lineup? What are potential trade partners.
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Where else are we going to find a defenseman who scores 15 goals like Nick Robertson?
Defenseman?
@@alltheworldsastage. yeah its a inside joke on here where Steve said he was a Defenseman at one point
Dangle called him a defenseman once so it's an in joke@@alltheworldsastage.
Haha, nice. Steve will never hear the end of it.
Here's what I would do. "Well, Nick, we've got a new coach and a new staff. Let's see how it works out, and if not, then we will see if there is anything out there by trade deadline"
love it
You could say the same to Mitch too
I would give him Todd Bertuzzi's role pair him with Max Domi
^This is the way. I have mixed feelings with Nick requesting a trade, on the one hand I would hate to see him go, on the other hand he has not been treated well here. The new coaching staff has the opportunity to mend the rift and actually give him the opportunities he has earned himself. Mitch Marner is not the same at all. You let him play and he will get resigned here - bottom line. The media and fanbase have memories of goldfish, he puts in half a good season and the contract extension will be headline news and nobody will be complaining. Or the voices that are still complaining will be drowned out by all the 'atta boy mitchy's. It also incentivizes him to give a list of teams if you make it very clear to him he is sitting the entire season. The only possibility it has is lowering his value by him sitting a season. It's not going to be improving the narrative around him, he will stagnate, which letting him play will not do. If you want to argue it doesn't effect his value then fine, he is still the same '100 point reg season scorer who falls apart in the playoffs'
No. 750k for 15 goals. He is being fleeced by the leafs.
In his first season playing more than 15 games. Scoring 15 goals in just over 50 games is 20+ goals in 82 games.
He's not being fleeced, he's severing out his contact like any other pro athlete and he's not so good that he gets to dictate that he wants out.
Wah wah wah. He has proved NOTHING beyond being hurt on a regular basis and now that he is a whiner too. Who cares if he leaves. He needs to realize that he is NOT and NEVER will be his brother. Bye good iddens go back to preschool with the other entitled little brats
Clueless
@ozzyd2314 Exactly HOS FIRST SEASON PLAYING MORE THAN 15 GAMES. ENTITLED LITTLE BABY
Robertson is an exciting player and gives 100% every time he’s on the ice. He should play many more minutes than they give him. I would be a fan of him no matter what team he’s on. Trade him to a team that will actually play him.
the Leafs will play him a lot more if he does what they ask. they have a need for his shot and left wingers.
Can't play a constantly INJURED PLAYER
@@ilfautdanser9121clueless
Leafs benefit by playing Robertson less. Robertson wants to play so he gets more money. I see both sides
Sounds pretty logical to me.
I think he wants out because he knows his potential with Toronto bottoms out on the bottom 6 or 2nd PP, he sees his brother tearing it up in Dallas and probably can’t help but think he needs a better situation where they really care about his development. Leafs priority is keeping Marner happy, not winning. No one can blame Nick for wanting out
That is a lot of BS
He’s not the same type of player like his brother
Except he isn't as good as his brother and on any contending team would be in the same spot he's in rn. Unless he wants to some losing team foe the sake of development his best bet to win is in Toronto as ironic as they may sound.
Add in how high the Leafs brass is on Cowen, Robertson is just seeing the writing on the wall.
@@noodle3872 Cowan is 2 or 3 years from being ready for the NHL.
tbh I'd want out too.
I kind of understand why Robertsonn wants to trade because it seems like they're he's up and down like they don't give him enough. Time in the show to showcase, like players go through slumps but it's like how do you show consistency if you're always d****** him around
It seemed like keefe liked to punish robertson when he needed someone to punish even if it was for top 6
He was injured a lot, isn't responsible defensively at all, isn't gifted enough offensively (yet) to make up for his short falls
@@DeletedUser015 but it's hard when you don't have the time to play. A few games here. A few games there
But what Robertson fails to realize (or maybe doesn’t care about) is that the main factor in keeping him down and yo-yo’d is gone. Keefe has been finally fired, a year too late imo, but he’s still gone.
@@guylanglois1802 he played lots in the ahl and was still hurt
Good breakdown on Adam’s part on what the Leafs management should be doing with Nick Robertson. Well said !
Both Knies and McMann didn’t have a lot more production if you look at the stats. I think that Robertson had a few more points than McMann but I could be wrong. Robertson improved a lot this past year and could easily be a 20+ goal scorer. I hope that they keep him.
Nick had 3 more points than bobby. So you’re correct
sure but he isnt reliable
Robertson had more points but Mcmann and Knies play a different game anyways, they are larger and play the body. Also are more trusted on defense
Thoughtful recommendations for Nick Robertson, Coach Adam! Let’s hope upper management is watching and listening 👂
Had the same thought!
Sign Alex Nylander. Get rid of Jarnkrok for a pick to free some cap space then flip Liljegren + Robertson for a top 6 forward.
If you do deeper research, Robertson for Kaliyev makes sense. Kaliyev had 14 goals as a rookie and 13 the next year in 56 games. He has an incredible shot. He also suffers from some defensive lapses but was a mainstay on the 2nd PP unit two seasons ago. This season he took a step back. Both he and Robertson need a change in scenery.
Man, it must be tough to be a Leaf’s fan. I feel for you guys, I really do.
Yes, the Leafs don’t play him enough. But we’re all forgetting about all the injuries he’s had that has slowed his progress. That’s a huge factor in this too. Robertson needs to be patient.
Keefe finally gets fired and NOW Robertson asks for a trade? Just nonsensical.
Nick is making a mistake...new coach, new opportunity...take the puck and run with it...work on your weaknesses, improve and earn the position you crave ?????
Be a dawg ❤❤❤❤
11:37 I wonder if that was the purpose. Did he wait too long on purpose?! Maybe because he just doesn't want to be sent down and fudged around with anymore. Forcing his case to be a priority might give him some attention.
The fact they played matthews for game seven instead of the team that won games 5 and 6 without him! Robertson was great for those games unlike mathews for game 7
Matthews set up the tying goal. What are you a troll or something?
Having lost Bertuzzi, we are going to need Robertson this year.
Adam acting surprised is a bit Wylde
Oh I for sure miss Sandin. I thought he slotted perfectly as a future #2 LD. But I am happy with the Cowan pick. So it worked out.
Sandin has some offensive skill but he’s a mess defensively, small and not a great skater. He tops out as a #4 imo
I want him in Dallas let's go 🎉
Matthew’s marner and Nylander should all play on different lines
Totally. With a kid on each line (Robinson, McMann/Cowan, Knies), and Domi, Jarni or Tavares. A star, a good kid, and the solid veteran on each. Roll them equally so no one is overplayed.
He doesn't seem like a Berube type player. Guys on the 3rd and 4th line are going to be expected to bang and crash. Unless he would step up to the top six he may not fit on this team. What they do with Easton Cowan may also factor in.
Is Domi playing 2LW or 3C? Toronto really needs another winger.
The reason Robertson is angry and Wants out is because they offered him a 2 year extention of his current contract which is a 2 way contract which allows him to be shipped to the AHL as needed, thus he doesn't want to be pushed into AHL status.
Would love to see Nick in Dallas with his brother, but I don't think there's a real fit or package that would make sense at this point.
Zetterlund scored 24 goals, lol 😝 he was also the marquee return on the Timo Meier trade (who was drafted 8th overall I believe) they also got Musty (who I believe is the future of this team) & Shakir Mukhamudulin (big D-man) which is less valuable this year as there were a million 6’5” prospects this draft! Robertson for a 2nd round pick next year is likely his best return or 2 late-round prospects.
I feel like he's a huge piece to this team..
Really hopeful he stays and they work it out.
Of course he does. No room on the leafs for speedy little forwards. He wants ice time !!
I dont blame him ......i would want out too as long as marner was on the team stealing all my money and playing cowardly playoff hockey.
More BS from you.Your hatred is sounding a lot like bigotry.
I can understand his side if there were a team or teams that would be interested in why hasn't any of them had knocked on Trelivings' door .
Not the most physical player , not a very sound defensive player, when he has the opportunity to shoot. No doubt he has a hard shot.
Shoulder injury Broken leg !
In and out of the lineup.
Drafted with high expectations, but not given fair opportunities that to show any consistencies.
The Leafs haven't exactly shown a lot of confidence in Robertson and some players haven't exactly done the same.
Knies is much more a physical aggressive larger player 😊
I would say to Robertson you stay you get consistent 2 3rd line wing for
What about Robertson for heinola on the jets? He seems like a defender they might be giving up on, but could be a reclamation project for us
Trade him to Winnipeg. He’ll love the winters there. Be careful what you asked for.
I like Robertson but he does need to work on his defensive game and that part is on him. It was the same thing when Kadri arrived in Toronto. His defensive play got way better.
I think the statement "that's on him" is flat incorrect, the absolute best way to get better at defense is to play the game. You can practice but it is not as good as being in games
All that comes with experience..which Nick doesn't have a whole lot of ..but he can score even strength and he's been ok with limited time on the ice
@@brandoncrawford7724 I don’t disagree but ice time is earned. I’m just saying he owns part of this.
@@billbowman8747 sure but there were also roster spots you could use for him, but what are dewar or Reaves doing there? Dewar if you want to make a defensive forward argument idk, offensively Robertson is better, Reaves was in for toughness which was meh for huuuuuge stretches and was a pylon on the ice. It just isn't a way to handle a young forward with such potential, they are better of trading him fr cause even if they give him ice time I doubt he stays
@@brandoncrawford7724 True. Don’t get me wrong I like Nick. I’d rather have him on the team. I’m also not saying the team has no responsibility in this. I wish he had a stronger two-way game. Injuries haven’t helped his progress either.
I'm requesting a job with sdpn 👍
If you need a guy like robertson than play him like you need him.
This isn't going to end badly, surely not. Everyone now rushing to point out hes injury prone and a defensive liability in the fan base will SURELY make him want to stay. Right? And if that's true, why is everyone trying so hard to make sure hes stays in Toronto? What happened to the "If you don't wanna play here, leave" Mentality?
stamkos basically admitted that he and march tampered by calling and asking if they were signing with nashville. he said it in an interveiw
Also yes he's been laughed by two players but those two players have also been healthy where he keeps getting hurt
Robertson would be fantastic in Carolina. He is another Seth Jarvis.
Players on all teams and their AHL teams want to be traded because they don't feel they are being utilized with current teams. So it really isn't news that Robertson wants out. Leafs are weak at LW with really only Knies having a roster spot. C'mon Nick, just play well enough so you can secure an NHL spot.
He has.. and has been constantly sidelined to either give other players a shot or to keep running it back with pathetic marner up on line 1 or 2 with zero possibility of movement even when he sucks.
Unless Toronto gets bought and moved to the Us by an American Franchise or any Canadian team the chances of them winning a cup is doubtful. I know nothing about hockey but I know enough to know that.
Sens will give you a 3rd and a 4th. Thank u very much
I don’t understand why people are so high on him.
Knies and McMann have all passed him on the depth chart.
He’s not able to play in our top 6 and doesn’t fit the bottom 6. He turns the puck over a lot.
Should have been traded when he got hot last year.
I was commenting and heard Steve mentioned him being lapped. So there it is.
Thank you for your service and good luck.
Don't get me wrong, Knies is a studd. Bobby has a decent shot, not as good as Robertsons. For all I care those 2 can sit and develop, that play alone earned Robertson a solid shot on line 1 or 2 for a solid pile of games. Particularly when Mitch was on LTIR or playing like dogshit. He never got them. Robertson gets treated like legitimate dog doodoo on this team.
If the leafs can get marner to waive his nmc, say tuey could guarantee him a trade to a contender which i think he would waive for that, Robertson would be a great piece to add to the trade. Imagine the haul we would get back, I'd try and get something lined up and pull the trigger
How is Robertson, a guy the Leafs don't trust enough to keep in their lineup, a "great piece"?
@@BurtTurbo he has a shot and is a great addition to a power play unit, would be a solid top 6 addition for any team
@@TorontoSportsFan Lmao what? Top 6 for any team? What are you smoking?
@@J0lzi sabres, flames, Utah, TBL, Vegas to name a few
He is not waiving his NMC.
Robertson is a nasty prick on the ice and therefore deserves a premium. He's worth his weight in Gold, and he should have been slotted up on the top 2 lines when injuries pop up. I get that he wants to move on, but his options are limited at this point. He's going to have to grin and bear it.
Call the Sabres - apparently they are giving top prospects for decent NHLers
Robertson for Fowler 50% cap retained and a 4th
If only marner had thr same guts, you could actually make a cup worthy team
The smartest player on the Leafs !!
You have to get off that team if you hope to go anywhere in the playoffs.
Otherwise, you’re just enjoying the view.
The other boys should do the same if they knew what was good for them.
Blinded they are by the dark side.
well if the only thing that matters is point production then why trade MItch...Steve keeps bringing up Robertsons points compared to the guy from LA but the whole point is your team needs to be made up of more than just smaller scorers...
They kind of even let Dewar lap him as well
Cgy will take him for future considerations
No
he believes
Why Robinson should say hey we've got a new coach that doesn't have the hate on for me and just go out there and play
He needs to go to Dallas
The Robertson and Sandin situations are not alike. It’s not a trend
The entitlement is crazy and Adam is spot on. Robertson situational awareness is terrible. This is clearly his year and now he wants out😂. Hopefully he's been hitting the gym so he doesn't get injured again. Probably just blame that on the Leafs anyway.
I appreciate his talent, however, if he doesn't want to be there trade him. No hard feelings.
I'm very worried Brad is still going to keep JT and Marner for the core mentality but it's not going to work because they need to overcome Boston and Florida in their division. These teams know how to handle the core by putting a wall on their bottom line, basic hockey fundies are what you need to beat the Leafs... which is hilarious
Then you trade him seems pretty simple to me
Relax. It’s none of your concern and wait for the season to start.
No team is lining up for nicko robo
The Toronto Maple Leafs= Dallas Cowboys. Always talked about, always hyped. But inevitably fail when the lights shine the brightest.
Send him to STL!
Trade him then. If he is not HAPPY, how can you change that? He has had injury issues and I think the Leafs have given him the opportunity.
You tell the kid see yah! HE has NOT earned a spot on the team and others below him have past him. Ie Bobby McMann and Pontus Holmberg
Goto Dallas with your brother
Nick robertson to vancouver!! :D
Replacement level player trade request era
He's either going to be a piece in a Marner trade, or he's going to be moved for another young prospect looking for a change of scenery, IE Kaliyev.
give us 2 firsts for nick
Send him to Dallas to go play with his brother.
would trying to do a trade to dallas to play with his brother instead be a bad idea ?
Sabers should trade for him rosen , 2025 3rd, 2026 3rd
Nick wasn't a Keefe guy? Do you think he's a Berube guy???
We need alex nylander!
he wants to play with bertuzzis in Chicago with Folignoes...
Stay ! Keefe is gone so you will have a spot
Must be looking at the success of his brother and be thinking I want a piece of that.
Easy peezee
Robertson should just be thankful that he's in the NHL and getting a pay check. He shouldn't be throwing his weight around.
you clearly know nothing about hockey... what is your basis??? for a guy who plays approx 10 min a game in the nhl and to come up with more goals that players that are paid higher than him and he lights up the AHL when he is sent down. he is to talented in the AHL. "Throwing his weight around" wtf are you talking about??? you clearly are bias or racist against asians playing in the nhl??? which is it you clown
He'll have a better chance of winning in the playoffs leaving the leafs. hopefully they get a half decent return
1967 Baby😂😂😂😂😂
Dont trade him and let the Marlies bench him 😂
Stupid post.
That is a great idea for crapping on the Leaf's reputation.
everyone jumps on th trade Marner band wagon and now Robertson and lets add up there goals and assists and lets look at all the new acquisitions this summer and I believe we are short of a lot of point production. so we will have to see what unfolds an dhow it relates to wins and losses....
He's just not good enough plain and simple
He is good enough. He is young and will be a 30 + goal scorer, sooner than later.
Either Robertson has bad judgement or he has been given bad advice. His lack of opportunity is not the Leafs disrespecting him or miss managing him. He has been injured so many times and other players like Steve said have lapped him in development. This looks like this is the year where he will get a big increase in minutes and an opportunity to cement a permanent role on the third or even second line.
It’s not his offensive game that is the problem. He is a defensive liability and turns the puck over a lot.
He statistically does not turn it over a lot
@@jacobschannel576 I should have phrased it ''He turns the puck over at bad times''. Defensive liability. I hope he can have a great year under Berube though.
@@robert-michaeloneill186defensive liability is often brought up as a go too excuse because there are other players far worse than him.
Robertson marner to Vegas mega deal
Get rid of him !
I wouldn't be upset if they got rid of Robertson, I say it all the time, I don't think the roster likes him, watch when he scores goals, no one really celebrates with him....
Send him to play with his brother
Robertson is gonna sign whatever crap deal he is forced to and then get picked up off waivers.
Even the Leafs are stupid enough to put him on waivers unless they do a contract with a big bonus right after the waiver wire. If they had to waive a body for salary cap, it would be a more expensive option to deter others from picking them up.
Trade nick for naz
Trade him to Dallas to play with Jason 👍🏻
The comment that Nylander Marner needs to play on other lines is a very good point ..
Traveres Robertson Jarkrok
Start there
Flyers will take him
Rangers 👀