I feel that the 9th Doctor isn't slowing time down to get past the giant fan blades on the observatory, but rather just focusing on the blades spinning so from the Doctor's perspective they slow down so they know when to walk forward and not get sliced. It's like a meditation thingy.
I don't mind the fingersnaps. I see it as an indication of how much the Tardis trusts you. There was that one episode where 12 snaps the door open and Clara snapped it closed again, which I saw as the Tardis not-so-subtly telling the Doctor "I'm not getting in the middle of this, so you two figure it out on your own". It gives the Tardis more personality.
13 evidently forgot about the finger snap when she got back with her Tardis. After mentioning that she lost the keys the Tardis opened it's door for her and her companions.
@@KnightRanger38 She was being humble. From the Tardis' perspective, they'd been apart for centuries, and this was their first time seeing each other in their new forms. 13 didn't want to just make it like "Remember me? Open up." They have a relationship, so when 13 lost the keys, she apologized, and the Tardis basically said "I forgive you" and just opened up, no snap required. I thought it was lovely.
I do love that Moffat is so open about what worked and didn't work during his tenure. Hearing a writer admit their mistakes or wishes to go back and do something differently is extremely respectable.
Did he ever make a comment about not committing to killing anyone off? I didn't really notice that trend until I returned to the franchise this year and started watching content that pointed that out to me, but it's quite true. Was there ever any indication he considered that a mistake?
I've always thought the Doctor's intense hatred of guns in the modern series is due to the atrocities of the Time War where the Doctor was a Warrior so that has caused them to despise guns and killing. And in the modern series the Doctor has only wielded a gun in the most desperate situations when pushed to their limit.
Every time the Doctor has used a gun in NewWho he either gets called out for how over the edge he’s gone (9th in Dalek, 11th in Town Called Mercy) or it’s a sign of just how extremely terrified he is. Ten was explicitly a non-gun Doctor. He held one to the head of the guy who killed his daughter just to prove how he would never use one. The End of Time moment comes right after a conversation where he says he’s never use one, only to pick one up the moment he hears the Time Lord’s are returning to show just how reality-ending serious the threat is. War changes people. The Doctor had survived 100 odd years of the worst war in all existence. Him being cool with guns before the war only to never want to touch one after it is perfectly understandable character development.
yeah in the day of the doctor the war doctor is shown to frequently use guns (shown once but implied more) so it makes sense that he has so much regret from the war that he doesn’t want to use them again, and only does in dire situations. you could also say with 12th doctors use of a gun it was after day of the doctor so he knew galliffrey was safe he didn’t mind about guns but i don’t think the doctor would abandon his morals so quickly
@@michaelbeadle5156 that whole episode was a little off, but he does check to make sure the guy had regenerations left so he didn’t really die. Im not trying to make excuses, I’m just giving a little more information.
I also feel like the Doctor knows he shouldn’t use one and tries his hardest to live up to these morals however I think part of him knows sometimes the only choices do involve violence (“sometimes the only choices you have are bad ones, but you still have to choose”) and the old soldier in him threatens to overcome the pacifist ideals
The stepping through the fan was not time manipulation but is factually stated just extremely perfect timing and the slowing of time was just for effect to show this
Yup. It was HIS perception of time we were seeing, not any kind of chronokinesis he’s never used again. Like his psychometric abilities he’s only used a handful of times in sixty years….
@@MegaLokopo Nope. It's exactly the same as this situation. Just as you described it, we saw Nine's thoughts, with all the blades moving in slow motion from his POV.
Wasn't Eccleston's scene of walking through the fan meant to demonstrate his hyper-awareness and skills (skillful body coordination)? That was how it always came across to me.
no wait, the whole "slowing down time" thing _does_ make sense, and it _does_ happen again! remember when 12 was in the confession dial and he "slowed down time" so he could strategize? he wasn't really slowing down time, he was speeding up his processing
I never took the scene of 9th walking through the fan blades as "power over time", but a "hyper concentration" skill: he takes a moment to study the rate of rotation and steps through at just the right moment based on mental computation, looking mightily relieved when he opens his eyes!
The gun thing makes all the sense in the world when you take context into account. RTD's era started after the time war, so the Doctor not liking guns makes sense because it represents a point in his life he regrets and hates. The classic era never made that distinction because he hadn’t suffered the trauma of the time war yet, so killing bad guys was a last resort option whereas from Nine onwards he refuses to even consider holding a weapon again. Which makes the moments he does wield a gun even more pointing. Nine actively arms himself when when he comes face to face with a Dalek, his hate overriding his moral compass until Rose snaps him out of it. Ten forces himself to take Wilf's gun, after a while speech about how much he’s lost and objectively refusing to, only when he finds out the Time Lords are coming back because he knows what it means and becomes genuinely afraid. Eleven points a gun at a war criminal because he knows of everything he’s done and it reflects everything he’s down in the time war, so it literally becomes a question of "who is worth protecting?" And as for twelve, he was set to burn the universe to save Clara so picking up a gun and shooting it was pretty standard. Context is key. Doctor Who doesn’t want you to forget these moments, they want you to remember these moments because their significance speaks to his character.
Police Box doors actually open Inwards - the box was designed, so that, if the need arose, it could be used as a temporary cell, to secure a prisoner until a police car or van turned up to take them to the police station. Outward opening doors would not be very secure, and could easily be kicked open to escape. Inward opening doors, fitted inside the framework, are far more secure. My late mother was a Metropolitan Police 'Special' in the mid 1950's. She told me that these boxes had a shelf, a Logbook, a first aid kit, a coathook for wet weather gear, and that was it. She told me that they were great places to eat an ice lolly on a hot day. The idea of the TARDIS always amused her. 👍👍👍
4:23 I didn't think that the Doctor was manipulating time, I thought he was, in a way, meditating and feeling the rotation of the blades, counting and calculating the best moment to step through the blades, I think his moment of suprise afterwards was him saying to himself "Holy crap! It worked!"
I never thought the 9th Doctor was slowing down time in that scene from the 2nd episode -- I figured he was kinda "using the force" as it were, to time his stepping past the fan blades. He's seeing it in his head and times it precisely right to pass by them, that's all. I mean, he IS a Time Lord, billions of years ahead of us puny humans, I'm sure there are a LOT of things his brain and mind can do that would stump us. When I first scanned through the video to see if it included any Classic Who, I thought the scene I saw from "Attack of the Cybermen" (6th Doctor) was about the Cyberman crushing Litton's hands and literally drawing blood, not the Doctor playing bang-bang-shoot-em-up. I know that scene with the hands distressed a LOT of people. I know I can't watch it myself!
Yeah I never thought he slowed time, just trusted his instinct to step at the right time (and we, the audience, see it in slow motion, which is perfectly normal for drama)
The doctor, especially the ninth doctor, often said that they could see all possible futures in his head. So yeah, it seemed more like he was picking the perfect moment
Yes, this is how I think of it too. The Doctor kind of mini meditates using his sense of hearing and perhaps the vibration or something. Closing his eyes helped him concentrate just on the timing, cutting out all distraction.
The doctor was not slowing down time with those fans. He was simply concentrating on timing his step correctly so that he wasn't ripped to shreds. If anyone has an understanding of timing, its the doctor.
I think inconsistencies with the TARDIS can be chalked up to the fact that she's an old and temperamental machine, and no doubt bits get broken and connected abilities (including external dimensions) don't always work consistently - in 'Logopolis', the Doctor even recalibrates the TARDIS' outer measurements (by studying a genuine police box), suggesting that things do slip over the centuries. On the half-human thing, I actually don't think it's as much of an issue as some fans have made it out to be. Doctor Who Magazine did an article on this many moons ago, and basically their theory was that the First (and possibly Second) Doctor was indeed half-human, but had his biology altered by the Time Lords when he regenerated into Three. Having human ancestry may explain a few things about the Doctor: why he was socially isolated from the Time Lords, why he had lower than average intelligence, why he had an affinity for Earth, and probably other things. I'll give you Atlantis and Amy's kiss though. And there's a sentence I never thought I'd say.
The half-human concept still has one huge question lurking in it: how is the Doctor "half-human on my mother's side?" What does that even mean? How did the Doctor mean that his mother was human? Was she an actual person from Earth brought to Gallifrey? Was the Doctor's father a visitor to Earth? If the latter, did the Doctor's mother go to Gallifrey with the father? Was the mother Gallifreyan, but was so obsessed with Earth culture that the Time Lords considered her socially compromised in some way? I'm sure it all ties in to the Doctor being a lonely child cared for by some form of foster family. If you factor in the Timeless Child business, though, then how did a half-human, half-alien child end up on the Milky Way's side of a dimensional portal with regenerative ability? I don't doubt that a good writer could make a story that works out of these parts, but it hasn't happened yet, and so the half-human idea still sticks in Doctor Who like a bit of food stuck in its teeth. We can't help but probe it in irritation.
@@SingularityOrbitOne of the novels hinted that Leela and Andred were the Doctor's parents. The great scene in Horror of Fang Rock where Leela tells the Doctor not to be afraid is even funnier if you imagine she's his mother.
@@anthonybernacchi2732 I never encountered that theory before. The thing is that Gallifrey is protected from time changes by the Time Lords' tech -- the rest of the universe can be rewritten by time travelers, but not Gallifrey. So Leela and Andred don't make sense as the parents on the surface of it because they got together later in the timeline than the Doctor's life on Gallifrey. Mind you, it's Doctor Who, so it's possible that Leela and Andred had a child, the child went through a portal to another universe, came back through and broke the timeline in the process because two universes were involved, and then got picked up and taken to Gallifrey to be reverse-engineered to make Time Lords. I guess . . . Honestly, if you take the Timeless Child situation seriously then nothing's off the table anymore where the Doctor and Gallifrey are concerned. I think it broke the show more deeply than a lot of people realized.
Eccleston's Doctor said in 'Rose' that he can feel the different motions and velocities the Earth moves through Space. He just synchronized himself with his 'biggest fans' timing and stepped between the blades. No sweat...
Originally Marc Platt intended the ending of Lungbarrow to imply that Leela and Andred's child would eventually travel back to the Dark Times and become the Other, who ultimately dissolves himself in the Loom network to be rewoven as the First Doctor explaining how he can be "half-human on (his) mother's side" but also Loom-born.
This doesn't work for me because the point was that the Doctor lies with purpose. A bad situation happens, and the Doctor feels a need to manipulate people's responses with incomplete information. It's application of incredibly advanced psychology because "there's no time to explain." The "half-human on my mother's side" line had no bearing on anything in the scene -- the guy he was talking to assumed the Doctor was an eccentric human being, the Doctor didn't need him to realize he wasn't from Earth -- so there was absolutely no point in it being a lie. It made far more sense as the Doctor oversharing due to post-regeneration trouble. That's why it's still such a problem: there was no motivation for it to have been a lie. Also, if the Doctor lies to everybody in such a casual way . . . well, I've known a compulsive liar in real life, and they're terrible friends who care more about how they feel in the moment than about other's security and safety. That's not the Doctor.
The one episode that always gets me is "Father's Day" (S1.E8) where Eccleston and Rose change a fixed point in time with Rose's dad dying which causes the Reapers to feast on every human until time returns to its' original state. The Reapers never return, yet in so many episodes following these "fixed points in time" have been altered with no repercussions. I get that it was the first season of the reboot but it doesn't give an excuse to not have them return to prevent so many continuity errors that followed in every single season afterwards...
I think the use of guns in the modern series was earned most of the time,like when the doctor is in mental distress or saving someone very important to him
Exactly. They make it very clear that the War Doctor has suffered trauma from his actions in the Time War, and opts to use The Moment to end the war despite his intense reservations. The Tenth Doctor and Eleventh reiterate this trauma discussing it in TDoTD. Nine is wracked with guilt over the events his predecessor caused, so emotionally paralysed that even posed with humanity's extinction by the Daleks, he refuses to cause another genocide. Although Ten has healed a lot (thanks to Rose), he still abhorrs violence (especially guns). In his speech to Wilfred in TEoT Part 2, he bluntly says "Never." to Wilf pushing a gun on him to use against The Master to save his own life, something he's vehemently spent decades trying to avoid. He only takes it due to knowing how destructive and psychotic the Time Lords were at the end, and needing to avoid another situation where he has to use The Moment (or something equally genocidal) again. Eleven, Twelve and Thirteen follow this trend to a certain extent, not really over the Time War (in spite of averting The Moment) and having acclimated to the War Doctor's dying hopes for "No More" bloodshed and needless death, through diplomacy and "being clever". So really it's not something Doctor Who wants you to forget. There's no discrepancy. It's a character arc/development; the hero swears off violence after causing a devasting event that ends countless lives, only reneging on that personal promise when loved ones' lives are in the balance.
@@lordolxinator i hate to be that guy, but when the doctor found out a single dalek survived, he spent pretty much the rest of the episode trying to get it to die, whether by suicide or taking a gun to it. then, when hundreds of thousands of Daleks all show up he's like "nah, not gonna cause another genocide." now i will also try to explain this action. with the single dalek, he was still seriously traumatised by the time war and what the Daleks had done during it. he knew that even this single dalek could take out every single human on earth if he let it. he couldn't see how that single dalek had changed, and Rose called him out on it. and remember, in the parting of ways he had rigged a device, using the space station, to kill every living creature in range, even had his hand on the trigger before he decided not to go through with it. and i like to think this is in part because of the experience he had with that single dalek earlier is series 1
I’m pretty sure that there’s a fourth doctor line saying that he never carries a gun to show that he means no harm, and if he went in with a gun, violence is more likely to break out.
@@Zach90888 Exactly right, that's always been the Doctor's stance. There are plenty of evil things that have to be stopped violently, but the Doctor's way is to seek a peaceful solution first. If that turns out to be impossible, then there's always a perfectly serviceable death machine in the hands of the evil thing; take it from them and turn it against them. The Doctor know they can because of their hyper-competency in all fields of endeavor. Companions aren't allowed guns because they are part of his team, so coming in with a mind and tools for violence sends the wrong message -- how many times would they have been in big trouble when captured by authorities if they'd had guns in their pockets? -- and companions who think they can rely on guns won't watch, listen, and think are closely as they will if those are their main problem-solving tools.
The gun thing really is explainable. I assume that the hate for guns manifested through the trauma the war doctor had endured which, even though the memories were suppressed, subconsciously was still there. And in NuWho the doctor used guns only in a few select moments, making these moments even more significant
I'm still hoping for the Timeless Child to be revealed to be the *Master* and have that used as a part explanation for why the Master is so crazy, and also why the Master keeps showing up after getting killed for seemingly the last time.
Actually, the whole Amy/Doctor scene works because she'd spent ten years romanticizing the Doctor and he shows up just as she's about to make the biggest commitment of her life ... to her best friend. One gets the feeling Amy wasn't particularly experienced ... so, yeah, she does the "bride's last night free" dumb thing because she doesn't want to have any regrets and thinks this will make sure she doesn't have any ... doesn't work, of course, because he's not ready for something like that ... But given how Amy and Rory work out, it was something she needed to make certain of ... Especially when she ends up being his Mother in Law later ... Moffat may regret it, but a lot of us don't really cringe over this.
I love when the show references these bits! When Me and the Doctor discuss the meaning of "the Hybrid" one of the theories Me brings up is that the Doctor is so fond of Earth because he's a human/time lord hybrid. And I'm pretty sure I recall a map of the Doctor's appearances in history that had three different spots for "Atlantis". And up until recently, the extra eight Doctors in "The Brain of Morbius" would have been on this list, but the Timeless Child came up with an explanation for them!
That, and the TARDIS is alive and just changes its mind sometimes. Most of the changes to the control room and interior structure weren't explained as intentional updates on the Doctor's part -- the TARDIS just decided it needed to do an update.
Okay. Here’s my take on Amy kissing The Doctor. She does it after he life has been in serious jeopardy. In 2003/2004 I worked at a shop. We were held up at gunpoint. Nobody was hurt. But we were shaken up. After the police left. The woman I was working with and I had sex. Right there at work. Neither of us initiated it. It just happened. We’d never been like that before and haven’t since. It was just that one night. We were so thankful to be alive. That’s what Moffat was going for. As soon as I saw that moment in that episode. I got it. I knew exactly what was happening. However, most people won’t have been in a life threatening situation, so it would seem strange. But I 100% get it.
Yeah, this is a known phenomena, a reaction to near death and disaster. The birth rate bump from WW2 is probably the most well known example (thus giving rise to the Baby Boom and Baby Boomers) but it's also common amongst soldiers that have seen combat together and was even super apparent in New York directly after the 9/11 attacks, which resulted in a population surge 9 months later. Not saying that was really what he was going for mind you, but your experience at least is spot on.
I've never gotten what all the fuss over Amy kissing the Doctor was about. As much as I love Amy, she's a bit mentally unbalanced, especially in her early travels with the Doctor. She's lost her parents, gone to live in a place she hates, has time energy pouring into her every night, sees a spaceman crash land in her backyard, gets a promise to travel on his ship, but then gets stood up. She's also seen therapists who she apparently has a tendency to bite. She has trust, anger management, and commitment issues. But, she also has a huge capacity for love. Now, the aforementioned spaceman returns years later on the night before her wedding. Finally, she gets to go on the adventures promised to her younger self. On one of those adventures, she very nearly dies. Afterwards, fueled by fear and adrenaline and coupled by her own fear of commitment and uncertainty about what she truly wants in life, she tries to make out with this interesting and powerful person that she has spent her childhood obsessing over. There's also the emotional "freak out" over getting married the next day that many people experience... whether or not they recently spent time with a weeping angel in their brain that was about to kill them. ;) Honestly, it would have been odd of her not to have done that. It also sets up her character arc throughout her time of traveling with the Doctor of maturing and coming to realize that Rory is the man she truly loves. As much as she deeply loves and cares about her best friend the Doctor, in the end she gives him up to join Rory in the past. I think sometimes people just get weird about seeing the Doctor get kissy-kissy. They just don't want a sexual Doctor. Maybe it's because Doctor Who is considered a "kids' " show by some. I'm not sure. At any rate, I think the hulabaloo about Amy coming on to the Doctor is far overblown. Personally, I found it amusing, and that it made perfect sense from a character perspective and growth arc.
The 9th doctor stoping time is not what he does the idea of what he was doing was just focusing really hard on the current situation so he could step through
The Doctor didn't slow time. He sensed an opening. Basically he was playing Omega level Double Dutch, but with fan blades instead of a jump rope. Same way Jenny was able to summersault through those lasers. A Time Lord has time AND spacial awareness.
Do you not understand The Doctor is waaaay more against violence because of his experiences during the Time War? Also, 10 threatening The Master with a gun is supposed to be his literal breaking point after spending so much time on his own, just like when he declares the laws of time are his, or that he is The Time Lord Victorious. The scene with 9 with a gun is also supposed to be a breaking point because he thinks Rose is dead, and he doesn't even use the gun nor did he ever plan to according to his own words seconds later.
Did we also forget that in Human Nature/Family of Blood, The Doctor suddenly gets the power to trap people in mirrors, turn them into immortal but immobile scarecrows and the other weird and downright sadistic punishments he comes up with? Why has he never used these abilities before or since against Daleks, Cybermen, Sontarans etc etc
And as a time traveler, the Doctor had all the time he needed to figure out how to accomplish each punishment -- he wouldn't necessarily be able to do those things to someone on the spur of the moment.
I don't think it was a case of "suddenly getting" the ability to do that. We as the audience have only seen a fragment of what the Doctor is really capable of, because the Doctor is a pacifist most of the time, so there's really never any Reason to use these mega-powerful punishments. Why trap a Dalek or a Cyberman inside a mirror if blowing it up is the easier/safer/smarter victory? Also, worth remembering that in Family of Blood, the Doctor wasn't acting out of necessity. Those punishments were self-indulgent. They came from his rage, his fury at having an entire potential lifetime stolen from his human self. It wasn't just punishment, it was revenge. They wanted to kill him and steal his life-force to prolong their own lives indefinitely, so he made them immortal, just not in any way that would grant them benefit. That's why in the monologue at the end, when Baines is recounting it, he says, "He never raised his voice. That was the worst thing. The fury of the Time Lord. And then we discovered why. Why this Doctor, who had fought with gods and demons, why he'd run away from us and hidden. He was being kind."
honestly the moment with Christopher Ecleston and the fans I never thought of it as him slowing the time or stopping it - for me it was always his deep concentration and perfect timing
The Doctor in the RTD era hating guns makes sense actually, since he just came out of the Time War. The only thing the Ninth Doctor CONSIDERS shooting is the Daleks (which he doesn't do anyway) and in Bad Wolf he goes "come on like I was ever gonna shoot", and the 10th Doctor either didn't have any intentions of shooting the Master or Rassilon or he initially did and then changed his mind. As for the 11th and 12th Doctors well that could be Moffat forgetting the Doctor's opposition to firearms in the RTD era.
Tennant's Doctor took up the revolver because Rassilon was that serious a threat (and, possibly, because shooting a Time Lord would only cause regeneration, so it was more like temporarily removing Rassilon as a variable to get something else done). It was supposed to be a signal that the Doctor couldn't risk not having every tool at hand to have a chance of winning against a Time Lord more dangerous than the Master. After that, though, they kept reusing the idea that it must be super-series for realsies because, ooh, the Doctor's picked up a gun! It must be super important! Mind you, the Doctor used a gun in the old series whenever it was the best tool for the job, such as when facing off against a vicious giant rat in a Victorian sewer with limited options for escape. A gun is a tool, but the Doctor never wanted anyone to consider it the first, best option in every situation.
4:31 He's not slowing down time. He's just using his ability he mentions in the previous episode, where he mentions being able to feel the movement of the Earth. He just does the same for the ship he's on.
You forgot something even more important about the doors. While in the revival series the inside of the doors still resemble a police box, in classic era Doctor Who the doors on the inside were entirely different doors than the doors on the outside. There's even a line in episode where the Doctor says "I told you it was bigger on the inside." to which Queen Elizabeth responds "The door isn't, you nearly took my head off." They came out of the TARDIS ridding a horse in that scene. However in classic Doctor Who the doors actually were bigger on the inside, wider, taller, and thicker than the doors on the outside. It never made sense how the entrance to the TARDIS really worked. I mean if the Doctor and Queen Elizabeth had exited through the original TARDIS doors on a horse she wouldn't have any issue with the size of those doors. But it would be unexplainable how the doors shrank on the other side. This gets even worse because in the Classic Era we've also seen the Master's TARDIS some times with an even smaller door on the outside forcing the master to duck as he enters the TARDIS but allowing him to stand up perfectly straight as he exits because the inside door is so much larger than the outside door. There's also an episode the Doctor temporarily fixed the chameleon circuit allowing his TARDIS to turn into other objects for a while and some of the things it turned into didn't even have a door, the actors would just step out from behind the object and we'd never see what they were actually exiting from. This does happen ONCE in new who. Jodie Whittaker's Doctor separated from her own TARDIS on Gallifrey steals another working TARDIS which upon landing turns into a tree. That TARDIS was abandoned there still looking like a tree as she gets back into her own TARDIS. But just like in classic Doctor Who the interior of the TARDIS has those giant classic era doors while the outside doesn't have a door and Jodie just steps out from behind the tree never actually showing what she where she was exiting from. We also see the giant classic era doors on Clara's diner TARDIS to which the opposite side of the giant double doors is the women's bathroom door in the back of the diner. So not only are the doors larger on the inside but there's also 2 of them inside and only a single door outside. We have never been given an explanation for how those doors work.
I always noticed that, in the classic stories, there's a kind of black void beyond the interior TARDIS doors. It took a small amount of time to walk from the white-doored console room exit to the outer shell's exit. I always assumed, admittedly with little evidence, that there was some kind of unsettlingly dark "dimensional hallway" between the inside and outside. At some point between old and new series, though, the TARDIS redesigned itself for direct access, with a side effect of making internal and external doors into a single pair of doors. Don't ask me how. I mean, it's a structure that can eject bedrooms into the space between dimensions, I assume it has its ways.
Humans are able to focus and speed up the processing of information and in a sense slow down time. So him stepping through a fan is just a timing trick, you'll notice if you watch the clip again that the fan doesn't slow down and he moved at a normal speed.
First off, love WhoCulture videos. You also have a very charismatic voice. Now the not so nice bit. We’re going to have to agree to disagree regarding the 2nd episode with the ninth Doctor. I actually love that scene and the music that accompanies it. There the Doctor stands, he has just made it past the other fan blades and yet there is still one to go. I can only imagine how many things are running through his mind at the moment. How many of his past “failings” and even echos of trauma from the Time War are surfacing. The screams of Jabe, the weight of the lives of the living, The crushing what if and if only is related to the no longer living… add to that the fact that he is personally responsible for bringing a companion (Rose) into this dire situation. In the episode, Bad Wolf, Rose says that she sees everything… after looking into the heart of the TARDIS (what the doctor calls the time vortex, shortly before he regenerates into the 10th doctor). The ninth doctor responded to Rose with an almost smile, saying that that’s what he sees all the time and doesn’t that just drive you mad. Taking that information and going back to the 2nd episode, the Doctor is constantly seeing all these things. He eventually explains to Rose that he knows what can be changed and what can’t, unlike her. All this potentially bombarding the Doctor as he stands before that final spinning fan. I don’t think that he was ‘slowing time’ at all. The music, him closing his eyes, the fact that everything seem to go to Slow Mo… I think it’s something experienced by a great many people. Not just alien Time Lords. An athlete in the Olympics, closing their eyes for just a moment, centring themselves, taking a steadying breath, clearing away anything that doesn’t involve what they are about to do. Narrowing ones focus to the sole challenge in front of them. That’s what I saw when I watched that scene. He wasn’t suddenly faster, nor was time suddenly flowing slower. He was centring himself. Aware that his next step might very well be his last. Christopher Eccleston portrayed that moment ‘ Fantastically’. Demeanour calm and with body language that pretty much told you that the doctor was willing to except whatever came next. I found it a beautiful reminder that we all, at times, need to just be accepting of whatever our next step may be. Because we all have to keep moving forward, come, what may. AnyWho, that’s my interpretation of what happened in that scene. One other thing relating to that episode, and if I merely heard what you said in the video incorrectly, I apologize. But I think you said something about the sun blowing up? According to the episode, the sun actually expanded, which is what caused the earth to get “roasted”. Once again, love the channel, love your charisma. Looking forward to more videos. Best wishes.
Number 5 - THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU...honestly I've spent years (a decade at this point?) being really frustrated by that never getting sewn up. Always assumed it was Omega, and they just dropped the storyline.
The time stopping one, I don't think he actually stopped time. I think it was trying to portray him focusing to step through at the perfect moment. Since he's a time Lord he's probably very good with his timing (haha) but he didn't fully slow or stop it.
What gets me is how people take this stuff so seriously. "Oh, what about this... they fluffed that up, it shouldn't have happened/been like that..." It's all made up! It's just fiction, fantasy and trying to fit specific scenes and situations into reality is unbelievable. Like when someone makes a half hour video on how the turbo lifts could possibly work on the refit Enterprise. Nobody cared when they made it up in the 60s but now people obsess over these sorts of things, make endless videos how something doesn't work. Just accept it as entertainment made up by people who aren't concerned with reality and the realms of possibility.
"There was little reason to believe he was pulling anyone's leg at the time..." ... Actually, I always thought he was doing just that, and it fit the setting and mental state he was in at the time... I'm still surprised people keep bringing this one up, when there are many other things wrong with that TV movie... (None of them related to Paul and his performance tho...) My basic thought on the movie is that it could have been worse, and Paul was great! So great it was worth it. And thanx for your #1!!! Totally agree there!!! ;-)
I'm fairly certain Timelords have been stated to see, feel, and process time differently than other species. Like how the doctor can see fixed points like in waters of Mars and how Captain Jack is a fixed point and how wrong that is to him. Therefore, surely the 9th doctor was simply feeling the flow of time and stepping through the fast blades in a way practically none others could do so.
11:12 The whole idea of the Doctor is he is a mystery! Lots of things in this video, are so minor, it just seems picky, and there are explanations for most of them, either in former series or later ones. You just have to work it out.
4:25 I think in this scene the Doctor just walks in perfect time for the fan blades to completely miss him. Sort of a leap of faith moment. The issue is just that the speed the fans were animated to move at is way too fast for him to have walked through at the speed he did.
I’ve never thought he slowed time down with the fan I always saw it as a leap of faith because he needed to save everyone and his last chance was to risk being cut in half. He is always courageous and he never backs down.
This may be the worst of these lists I've seen. The Kiss was, perhaps, a bit of a flop, but the idea that Amy had issues to work out before she could fully commit to Rory actually makes a lot of sense. As others have noted, he didn't "stop time" for the fan blades; rather, it was a case of attuning himself to their timing perfectly--something which absolutely makes sense for him, though the ability is never really repeated. On guns: The Ninth Doctor is the Doctor seeking redemption for the War Doctor--of COURSE he's developed an anti-violence streak. That said, he's also routinely placed in positions where some degree of violence is necessary. The fact that this causes him to break a rule he'd rather hew to is called characterization, not inconsistency. Honestly, the entire movie is generally considered forgettable. The notion that one line of it has special prominence in that regard is pretty silly. The dormancy of the creature inside the moon is explicitly a case of hibernation bordering on stasis, and part of the species' long-term evolutionary strategy. It's highly likely that prior visits to the moon are simply during a time when the surface is simply a literal shell--how often do they go more than 80 miles below the surface (a plausible guess for the shell's thickness, during this period). Let's put this vid at Number One on "Ten times WhatCulture jumped the shark."
The 9th doctor didnt slow down time, he was scared, adrenaline rushing, seeing everything in slow motion. its a common occurrence when adrenaline rushes. thats how i always saw it, never once thought he slowed down time
The first one is very easily explainable. Boys get bored sometimes growing up and learn weird skills. I personally put hundreds of hours into trying to flip over a couch when I was a kid. Why? No reason other than I thought it would be cool. It’s entirely possible Danny did the same. I know the monster was taller than a couch, but after you learn the basics, you learn to scale up and get stronger. And, jumping a stationary object is not the same as dodging a car.
Here are some other things: (1) The first Doctor mentions having built the TARDIS. Some people will try to excuse this as him having only built one part of the TARDIS, but it's clear from context that that's not what he meant. (2) The Doctor is able to effortlessly defeat the family of blood, trapping one in a mirror, and doing similar things to the others. The implication is that he has godlike abilities that he was choosing not to use. Except... he never does this ever again. He doesn't trap the Daleks in a mirror or anything. (3) The Doctor was Merlin (4) The Doctor was the Valeyard. (5) The Doctor has the ability to make objects appear and disappear, whether as the 3rd Doctor in Ambassadors of Death or the 7th Doctor in the Greatest Show in the Galaxy. Even the 12th Doctor gets in on the act with pulling a cup of tea from his pocket. Now, sure, he could have dimensionally transcendental pockets, but that doesn't really explain ALL of these uses of his superpower. (6) The Doctor can heal others, but it uses his regeneration energy, but he can still do it when he has no regenerations left. Now imagine, if he had an infinite number of regenerations from some silly 13th Doctor story. He should be able to heal everybody who is ever injured from every injury. There should be no limitations on his ability to heal. (7) The Doctor (as John Smith) in Family of Blood has even more powers than the ones he uses against the family. Even as just "John Smith", he can toss a ball in a precise way to cause a sequence of events that saves a baby from a falling piano. (8) The first time the TARDIS became a police box was when the First Doctor was with Susan and it should've changed afterwards but didn't. So, the Fugitive Doctor can NOT have a TARDIS that looks like a police box, if she comes before the First Doctor, which is the strong implication of those stories.
i feel that the part with the “time stopping” power is more something to do with how he is so closely tied with time that he can mentally slow it down so he could get the timing right
Paul McGann is one of my favorites with Big Finnish Productions audio dramas. Especially with companion Charlotte Pollard. They make a great duo. I wish BBC would have done more with him. He would have been great.
**Power of the Doctor spoilers** Thanks for the guns highlight re: Classic Who. I was watching Power of the Doctor and I busted out laughing when Ace & Tegan pulled out machine guns and started spraying gold bullets at the Cybermen. My immediate thought was that they must have come from a VERY different era of the Doctor, and I meant to go back and find out.
A gun is a solution, but it's almost never the best solution if you think about all the other solutions. When armed Ogrons are coming for you, though, sometimes you just have to disintegrate them so you can survive to reach the better solution to the bigger problem.
For point 7, I always read that as the doctor being able to focus enough to detect the interval of the fan. Not really slowing down time so much as detecting it which always made sense to me. I would love to hear some other theories.
My take on the half-human thing has always been that it was just a throwaway line about being human on his mother's side but that he was half-human in his 8th incarnation. At that point, he had regenerated within the morphogenetic field of the Earth 5 out of 7 times, and given how unskilled he's always been at regeneration, eventually ending up half-human was practically inevitable. Everyone was averse to this idea because they hated the idea that one of his parents was human, but this explanation would bypass that issue.
Well Marc Platt intended the ending of Lungbarrow to imply that Leela and Andred's child would eventually travel back to the Dark Times and become the Other, who ultimately dissolves himself in the Loom network to be rewoven as the First Doctor explaining how he can be "half-human on (his) mother's side" but also Loom-born.
Re no. 5: I haven't ccompared cast notes, but the voice in the Tardis sounds exactly like the old man hologram from The Lodger. Since we later learn that the time machine on Craig's house was commandeered by The Silence, there's enough of a connection there to allow at least my headcanon to let it go. 😁
The Doctor in "The End of the World" was not slowing down actual time. He was slowing things down in his mind so that he could he could time his move between the blades.
I think the Doctor's disdain for guns post Time War makes perfect sense, even if he had used them in the past. While 12 later shooting the General felt very left field given this... he did so to save Clara. Desperate times.
@@thefrozenyak5272 Pfffttttt Oh that makes it so much better. There are a lot of places one could shoot *you* that wouldn't be fatal. Would that make it okay?
4:30 I genuinely don't think he did any time manipulation here, he straight up wanted to die - keep in mind this was only a few years after the Time War, The Doctor wasn't himself at this time, in the previous episode he literally blew up a building with C4. In his mind either he saves everyone, or he dies in an instant and it's not his problem anymore, from a 9th Doctor perspective, this is straight up a win-win scenario. Plus, as other people have pointed out, the moments leading up to him stepping through the blade where time seems to slow down, is really just him focusing really hard and calculating the exact moment to step through.
4:20 -- definitely not the interpretation I took of that scene when watching the episode. My take: the Doctor took a breath and focused, letting him know when it is safe to pass between the blades with a good reaction time. This effect is similar to when playing games or sports and even though the action might not be happening at a speed any different from other times, but when you get "in the zone", everything seems to slow down enough for you to react to events quicker than usual. In the episode, I think the visual effect of the fan slowing down was just meant to be a representation of getting "in the zone" and not about any special abilities.
I think the "Sometimes aversion to guns" makes perfect sense. Partially from his new persona via Regeneration. But also because: By the 9th Doctor, he's been IN the Last Great War MULTIPLE times. Even though it's started that only Caan was the first to break the Timelock surrounding the War, there's points of the War that include the 7th-11th Doctors. And even by the 9th, he describes it as "Pure Hell." It would make sense that after so much death, an individual would either not care (The Timelords/Daleks) or care WAY to much (The Doctor.)
Also in End of Time, he didn't genuinely threaten Rassilon and the Master with the gun, he was planning on shooting the machine all along. And in "Hell Bent" he shot that General, knowing they would regenerate, at the end of an ark that was all about him going too far.
9:21 The Timeless Child might actually salvage McGann's line about being half human. If the Doctor's father came through that rift, then fell in love and had a child with a human, then when the Doctor's mother died they might have tried to return home with the child, only to discover to their horror that the future Doctor was either unable to cross the rift, or unable to survive on the other side, because of their human heritage. It would explain why the child was left behind, especially if their father was unable to cross back and rejoin them. The Doctor's memories were hidden, but Eight's brain was so scrambled that a few random details, like being half human on his mother's side, were able to slip to the surface before being buried again. But even with the actual memories inaccessible, the Doctor knows there's something special about the Earth, something that keeps drawing them back!
the doctor never manipulated time to walk through the fan blades, he focused and took a leap of faith... the scene is played in slow motion for our benefit, which you can tell is the case since he also steps through in slow motion, I'd be surprised if more people thought he slowed down time there... he's just trying to get the timing right
The perspective shift of "slowing time" is also present in Heaven Sent when he jumps out of the window, complete with explanation. I always understood it as a perspective shift for the viewer, not actually slowing time. But I'm also a fan of The Matrix (not all of them, just the first 2) where this is also used, but referred to as bullet time there.
There's a nod to the Atlantis thing in S9E1 when UNIT is looking for possible crisis points where he might be (around 20 mins into the episode): "There we go. San Martino, Troy, multiples for New York, and three possible versions of Atlantis."
The eighth Doctor's line about being half human can't be a throwaway line because the whole thing becomes a plot point later in the movie, as the Master confirms it and it becomes somehow crucial to the control of the Eye of Harmony in the TARDIS.
The Doctor after the Time War never wanted to use a gun again but would use one if they saw it as the only option. In two of those three examples you named he didn't shoot a person (one not shooting the other shooting a device) and the third was a Time Lord he even wished luck before they regenerated!
That last one was the most shocking time the Doctor used a gun, too, because the General wasn't a threat. They were only an obstacle in the Doctor's plan. It was perhaps the most alarming act of violence since he planned to bash in a man's head with a rock in An Unearthly Child. This isn't a complaint, by the way. It just went to show how far out of character he'd become in his obsession with saving Clara.
I agree with most of the comments about 9 stepping through the fan. It wasn’t time slowing, he was just showing how he can speed up his thoughts and figure out when to step through. And secondly when there’s a random voice in the tardis it isn’t random. The tardis was getting stuck in a time loop and struggling. It intercepted a moment in time. That moment was more than likely Dorium telling the doctor about the prophecy when they were in that tomb. The tardis has a history of warning the doctor about things and also intercepting different moments of time. Also she thought she was going to explode in that moment and probably was trying to warn river one last time
The doctor's Timestopping powers isn't that at all. It's him centering himself and timing the swing of the fan so that he can step through at precisely the second it passes by. It's like timing water drip from a faucet and running something under it without getting it wet. I'm not going to look them up now, but there have been plenty examples of the doctor getting the timing of something precise to within a minimum range.
The initial concept behind what became the Paul McGann version of Doctor Who revolved around the idea that the doctor was half human, which is why he kept coming back to earth: defined his mother. Or father. They seem to kind of go back-and-forth on which parent they wanted it to be. I’ve dug into this as much as I can, and there is not a ton of information, but it looks like at least for a while they were suggesting that one of the doctors parents may have found someone from earth who developed time travel independently of Gallifrey. It also appears that they were playing with the notion that this parent was lost in time somehow and the doctor was trying to find him or her.
That's a really interesting idea. It solves all the issues: why a Time Lord would consider a human compatible; why the Doctor would steal a TARDIS and travel the universe; why the escaping Doctor would bring a family member with him (in addition to sparing her the shame of having a renegade grandfather, he would have hoped to introduce Susan to her great-grandmother). It also feeds back into the question of what happened to the Doctor's family, whom the second Doctor said were all dead (or at least "gone," which can mean a lot of different things in Doctor Who).
@@SingularityOrbit It would also likely explain why his temperament is so different from other time lords, and his difficulty with regeneration. IT’s not a terrible idea, though modern fans would hate it
@@mahatmarandy5977 Well, I don't hate it. Anything can work if they explain it well and use it well. _gestures in one direction with hand while trying to nudge the Timeless Child under a table with foot_
@@SingularityOrbit [laughing] yeah, good point. When it happened, American fans were rather incensed and British fans didn’t seem to care much, at least the ones I knew didn’t. After the 2005 revival, people in general made fun of the half-human thing. Then The Timeless Child happened, and made people forget any earlier infractions. :)
@@mahatmarandy5977 I remember that British comments always seemed more bemused than anything else. As an American who'd hoped the TV movie might bring the show back to life, I remember the American response as mostly just, "What? But . . . _why?_ What possible purpose does this serve?" Now, having easy access to behind-the-scenes information, we know the size of the bullet we dodged when that relaunch failed.
I never viewed it as the doctor slowing or stopping time when he stepped through the fan it was a neccesary leap of faith he made for the safety of the people on the station. His facial expressions before and after reveal this
4:33 IMO it was more like the Doctor was hyper focusing so he could move at the right time and the FX department slowed the footage down to display this, however this still makes no sense as the fan was still moving too fast for him to move across like that.
Regarding the ninth doctor fan walk, we do actually kind of, sort of get an in universe explanation. Fast forward to Heaven Sent - the doctor explains exactly how he knows to jump out of the window and says the following "Rule One of dying: don't. Rule two: slow down. Youve got the rest of your life. The faster you think, the slower it will pass." Then he makes all those calculations in his head really really fast before diving into the water. The ninth doctor is likely doing the same thing. Or. The ninth doctor was just really in the zone and walked through the fan without getting hit. He didnt slow down time.
The doctor 'slowing down time' was not a thing. They shot it like that to show him taking a leap of faith as it were. He'd close his eyes, slow motion cuts in to build suspense aaaand he walks forward, just getting his lucky card stamped for the day.
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I feel that the 9th Doctor isn't slowing time down to get past the giant fan blades on the observatory, but rather just focusing on the blades spinning so from the Doctor's perspective they slow down so they know when to walk forward and not get sliced. It's like a meditation thingy.
Yeah this was exactly what I was thinking and have always thought watching the episode seems a bit of an odd one to put on the list
I even think it was done again... remember The Eleventh Hour?
That's exactly what I thought too. We see Capaldi do the same at least once where it switches to his perspective and events being slowed down.
@@KingOfDomathis channel is hella bias towards the 11th doctor so they probably have an excuse for that
I thought the same. I always felt he was just rapidly running calculations in his head to get the timing exactly right
I don't mind the fingersnaps. I see it as an indication of how much the Tardis trusts you. There was that one episode where 12 snaps the door open and Clara snapped it closed again, which I saw as the Tardis not-so-subtly telling the Doctor "I'm not getting in the middle of this, so you two figure it out on your own". It gives the Tardis more personality.
13 evidently forgot about the finger snap when she got back with her Tardis. After mentioning that she lost the keys the Tardis opened it's door for her and her companions.
@@KnightRanger38 She was being humble. From the Tardis' perspective, they'd been apart for centuries, and this was their first time seeing each other in their new forms. 13 didn't want to just make it like "Remember me? Open up." They have a relationship, so when 13 lost the keys, she apologized, and the Tardis basically said "I forgive you" and just opened up, no snap required. I thought it was lovely.
Also maybe it only opens like that when it’s unlocked
I do love that Moffat is so open about what worked and didn't work during his tenure. Hearing a writer admit their mistakes or wishes to go back and do something differently is extremely respectable.
Did he ever make a comment about not committing to killing anyone off? I didn't really notice that trend until I returned to the franchise this year and started watching content that pointed that out to me, but it's quite true. Was there ever any indication he considered that a mistake?
@@SierraSigma”Just this once, everyone lives.” And also… every other time too
I've always thought the Doctor's intense hatred of guns in the modern series is due to the atrocities of the Time War where the Doctor was a Warrior so that has caused them to despise guns and killing. And in the modern series the Doctor has only wielded a gun in the most desperate situations when pushed to their limit.
It is confirmed to be because of the time war, yeah. seems like a bit of a misunderstanding on whocultures behalf tbh
Exactlyyyy
His limit.
@@MegaLokopo their limit
Yep
Every time the Doctor has used a gun in NewWho he either gets called out for how over the edge he’s gone (9th in Dalek, 11th in Town Called Mercy) or it’s a sign of just how extremely terrified he is. Ten was explicitly a non-gun Doctor. He held one to the head of the guy who killed his daughter just to prove how he would never use one. The End of Time moment comes right after a conversation where he says he’s never use one, only to pick one up the moment he hears the Time Lord’s are returning to show just how reality-ending serious the threat is.
War changes people. The Doctor had survived 100 odd years of the worst war in all existence. Him being cool with guns before the war only to never want to touch one after it is perfectly understandable character development.
yeah in the day of the doctor the war doctor is shown to frequently use guns (shown once but implied more) so it makes sense that he has so much regret from the war that he doesn’t want to use them again, and only does in dire situations. you could also say with 12th doctors use of a gun it was after day of the doctor so he knew galliffrey was safe he didn’t mind about guns but i don’t think the doctor would abandon his morals so quickly
@@hollowoatlet's also remember that 12 shoots the general when he's completely off the rails. Like isn't that the point of Hell Bent?
@@michaelbeadle5156 that whole episode was a little off, but he does check to make sure the guy had regenerations left so he didn’t really die. Im not trying to make excuses, I’m just giving a little more information.
I also feel like the Doctor knows he shouldn’t use one and tries his hardest to live up to these morals however I think part of him knows sometimes the only choices do involve violence (“sometimes the only choices you have are bad ones, but you still have to choose”) and the old soldier in him threatens to overcome the pacifist ideals
The stepping through the fan was not time manipulation but is factually stated just extremely perfect timing and the slowing of time was just for effect to show this
Exactly, but they didn't slow time he was only walking slowly.
Yup. It was HIS perception of time we were seeing, not any kind of chronokinesis he’s never used again.
Like his psychometric abilities he’s only used a handful of times in sixty years….
Like when he's diving out of the castle inside the Confession Dial and is able to perform a number of mental gymnastics on the way down.
@@PaperbackWizard That was the show playing his thoughts in super slow motion so us humans could keep up. That is completely different.
@@MegaLokopo Nope. It's exactly the same as this situation. Just as you described it, we saw Nine's thoughts, with all the blades moving in slow motion from his POV.
Wasn't Eccleston's scene of walking through the fan meant to demonstrate his hyper-awareness and skills (skillful body coordination)? That was how it always came across to me.
Yes - nothing to do with "slowing" Time down - the research on this channel is pretty poor at times.
Yeah, I thought he was just able to calculate EXACTLY when he needed to step through
I figured it was just him clearing his mind of anxiety, and leaving it to fate whether he passed the fans or not.
I can see that too.@@Mayeur000Donz
And even if this was a "slowing down time" moment, it is repeated in Heaven Sent (such as in the falling towards his death in the water scene)
no wait, the whole "slowing down time" thing _does_ make sense, and it _does_ happen again! remember when 12 was in the confession dial and he "slowed down time" so he could strategize? he wasn't really slowing down time, he was speeding up his processing
Exactly. I was going to comment this but checked to see if anyone else did first
I never took the scene of 9th walking through the fan blades as "power over time", but a "hyper concentration" skill: he takes a moment to study the rate of rotation and steps through at just the right moment based on mental computation, looking mightily relieved when he opens his eyes!
The gun thing makes all the sense in the world when you take context into account.
RTD's era started after the time war, so the Doctor not liking guns makes sense because it represents a point in his life he regrets and hates. The classic era never made that distinction because he hadn’t suffered the trauma of the time war yet, so killing bad guys was a last resort option whereas from Nine onwards he refuses to even consider holding a weapon again.
Which makes the moments he does wield a gun even more pointing. Nine actively arms himself when when he comes face to face with a Dalek, his hate overriding his moral compass until Rose snaps him out of it. Ten forces himself to take Wilf's gun, after a while speech about how much he’s lost and objectively refusing to, only when he finds out the Time Lords are coming back because he knows what it means and becomes genuinely afraid. Eleven points a gun at a war criminal because he knows of everything he’s done and it reflects everything he’s down in the time war, so it literally becomes a question of "who is worth protecting?" And as for twelve, he was set to burn the universe to save Clara so picking up a gun and shooting it was pretty standard.
Context is key. Doctor Who doesn’t want you to forget these moments, they want you to remember these moments because their significance speaks to his character.
Police Box doors actually open Inwards - the box was designed, so that, if the need arose, it could be used as a temporary cell, to secure a prisoner until a police car or van turned up to take them to the police station. Outward opening doors would not be very secure, and could easily be kicked open to escape. Inward opening doors, fitted inside the framework, are far more secure.
My late mother was a Metropolitan Police 'Special' in the mid 1950's. She told me that these boxes had a shelf, a Logbook, a first aid kit, a coathook for wet weather gear, and that was it. She told me that they were great places to eat an ice lolly on a hot day. The idea of the TARDIS always amused her. 👍👍👍
Some do, some dont. More commonly they opended 'out the way' as this allowed for more inside space to be utilised.
Bullllllllllshit
Oh come on! She couldn’t make that “swing both ways” joke work!
(And where’s the Capt. Jack cutaway for that gag? 😂😂)
@@munga1111 - There is no more space. Two people, three at a push.
@brianartillery if the doors open inwards, the area which they open in to would need to be constantly clear, so less room to utilise inside.
4:23 I didn't think that the Doctor was manipulating time, I thought he was, in a way, meditating and feeling the rotation of the blades, counting and calculating the best moment to step through the blades, I think his moment of suprise afterwards was him saying to himself "Holy crap! It worked!"
I never thought the 9th Doctor was slowing down time in that scene from the 2nd episode -- I figured he was kinda "using the force" as it were, to time his stepping past the fan blades. He's seeing it in his head and times it precisely right to pass by them, that's all. I mean, he IS a Time Lord, billions of years ahead of us puny humans, I'm sure there are a LOT of things his brain and mind can do that would stump us.
When I first scanned through the video to see if it included any Classic Who, I thought the scene I saw from "Attack of the Cybermen" (6th Doctor) was about the Cyberman crushing Litton's hands and literally drawing blood, not the Doctor playing bang-bang-shoot-em-up. I know that scene with the hands distressed a LOT of people. I know I can't watch it myself!
That's how I've always viewed it as well.
Yeah I never thought he slowed time, just trusted his instinct to step at the right time (and we, the audience, see it in slow motion, which is perfectly normal for drama)
The doctor, especially the ninth doctor, often said that they could see all possible futures in his head. So yeah, it seemed more like he was picking the perfect moment
Yes, this is how I think of it too. The Doctor kind of mini meditates using his sense of hearing and perhaps the vibration or something. Closing his eyes helped him concentrate just on the timing, cutting out all distraction.
i always assumed he stopped, thought about it and used a mathematical equation to time his step forward
The doctor was not slowing down time with those fans. He was simply concentrating on timing his step correctly so that he wasn't ripped to shreds. If anyone has an understanding of timing, its the doctor.
I think inconsistencies with the TARDIS can be chalked up to the fact that she's an old and temperamental machine, and no doubt bits get broken and connected abilities (including external dimensions) don't always work consistently - in 'Logopolis', the Doctor even recalibrates the TARDIS' outer measurements (by studying a genuine police box), suggesting that things do slip over the centuries.
On the half-human thing, I actually don't think it's as much of an issue as some fans have made it out to be. Doctor Who Magazine did an article on this many moons ago, and basically their theory was that the First (and possibly Second) Doctor was indeed half-human, but had his biology altered by the Time Lords when he regenerated into Three. Having human ancestry may explain a few things about the Doctor: why he was socially isolated from the Time Lords, why he had lower than average intelligence, why he had an affinity for Earth, and probably other things.
I'll give you Atlantis and Amy's kiss though. And there's a sentence I never thought I'd say.
The half-human concept still has one huge question lurking in it: how is the Doctor "half-human on my mother's side?" What does that even mean? How did the Doctor mean that his mother was human? Was she an actual person from Earth brought to Gallifrey? Was the Doctor's father a visitor to Earth? If the latter, did the Doctor's mother go to Gallifrey with the father? Was the mother Gallifreyan, but was so obsessed with Earth culture that the Time Lords considered her socially compromised in some way? I'm sure it all ties in to the Doctor being a lonely child cared for by some form of foster family. If you factor in the Timeless Child business, though, then how did a half-human, half-alien child end up on the Milky Way's side of a dimensional portal with regenerative ability? I don't doubt that a good writer could make a story that works out of these parts, but it hasn't happened yet, and so the half-human idea still sticks in Doctor Who like a bit of food stuck in its teeth. We can't help but probe it in irritation.
@@SingularityOrbitOne of the novels hinted that Leela and Andred were the Doctor's parents. The great scene in Horror of Fang Rock where Leela tells the Doctor not to be afraid is even funnier if you imagine she's his mother.
@@anthonybernacchi2732 I never encountered that theory before. The thing is that Gallifrey is protected from time changes by the Time Lords' tech -- the rest of the universe can be rewritten by time travelers, but not Gallifrey. So Leela and Andred don't make sense as the parents on the surface of it because they got together later in the timeline than the Doctor's life on Gallifrey. Mind you, it's Doctor Who, so it's possible that Leela and Andred had a child, the child went through a portal to another universe, came back through and broke the timeline in the process because two universes were involved, and then got picked up and taken to Gallifrey to be reverse-engineered to make Time Lords. I guess . . . Honestly, if you take the Timeless Child situation seriously then nothing's off the table anymore where the Doctor and Gallifrey are concerned. I think it broke the show more deeply than a lot of people realized.
Eccleston's Doctor said in 'Rose' that he can feel the different motions and velocities the Earth moves through Space. He just synchronized himself with his 'biggest fans' timing and stepped between the blades. No sweat...
Steven Moffat solved the Half Human problem with Rule #1: the Doctor lies.
but the Master alluded to it as well
Originally Marc Platt intended the ending of Lungbarrow to imply that Leela and Andred's child would eventually travel back to the Dark Times and become the Other, who ultimately dissolves himself in the Loom network to be rewoven as the First Doctor explaining how he can be "half-human on (his) mother's side" but also Loom-born.
@@geoffroi-le-Hook The Master Lies too
@@geoffroi-le-Hook The Doctor lied to him too, and the Master was foolish enough to believe 😄
This doesn't work for me because the point was that the Doctor lies with purpose. A bad situation happens, and the Doctor feels a need to manipulate people's responses with incomplete information. It's application of incredibly advanced psychology because "there's no time to explain." The "half-human on my mother's side" line had no bearing on anything in the scene -- the guy he was talking to assumed the Doctor was an eccentric human being, the Doctor didn't need him to realize he wasn't from Earth -- so there was absolutely no point in it being a lie. It made far more sense as the Doctor oversharing due to post-regeneration trouble. That's why it's still such a problem: there was no motivation for it to have been a lie. Also, if the Doctor lies to everybody in such a casual way . . . well, I've known a compulsive liar in real life, and they're terrible friends who care more about how they feel in the moment than about other's security and safety. That's not the Doctor.
The one episode that always gets me is "Father's Day" (S1.E8) where Eccleston and Rose change a fixed point in time with Rose's dad dying which causes the Reapers to feast on every human until time returns to its' original state. The Reapers never return, yet in so many episodes following these "fixed points in time" have been altered with no repercussions. I get that it was the first season of the reboot but it doesn't give an excuse to not have them return to prevent so many continuity errors that followed in every single season afterwards...
I think the use of guns in the modern series was earned most of the time,like when the doctor is in mental distress or saving someone very important to him
Exactly. They make it very clear that the War Doctor has suffered trauma from his actions in the Time War, and opts to use The Moment to end the war despite his intense reservations. The Tenth Doctor and Eleventh reiterate this trauma discussing it in TDoTD. Nine is wracked with guilt over the events his predecessor caused, so emotionally paralysed that even posed with humanity's extinction by the Daleks, he refuses to cause another genocide.
Although Ten has healed a lot (thanks to Rose), he still abhorrs violence (especially guns). In his speech to Wilfred in TEoT Part 2, he bluntly says "Never." to Wilf pushing a gun on him to use against The Master to save his own life, something he's vehemently spent decades trying to avoid. He only takes it due to knowing how destructive and psychotic the Time Lords were at the end, and needing to avoid another situation where he has to use The Moment (or something equally genocidal) again.
Eleven, Twelve and Thirteen follow this trend to a certain extent, not really over the Time War (in spite of averting The Moment) and having acclimated to the War Doctor's dying hopes for "No More" bloodshed and needless death, through diplomacy and "being clever".
So really it's not something Doctor Who wants you to forget. There's no discrepancy. It's a character arc/development; the hero swears off violence after causing a devasting event that ends countless lives, only reneging on that personal promise when loved ones' lives are in the balance.
@@lordolxinator thank u,I didn't want to type out the examples I thought of but yeah that sums it up perfectly
@@lordolxinator i hate to be that guy, but when the doctor found out a single dalek survived, he spent pretty much the rest of the episode trying to get it to die, whether by suicide or taking a gun to it. then, when hundreds of thousands of Daleks all show up he's like "nah, not gonna cause another genocide."
now i will also try to explain this action. with the single dalek, he was still seriously traumatised by the time war and what the Daleks had done during it. he knew that even this single dalek could take out every single human on earth if he let it. he couldn't see how that single dalek had changed, and Rose called him out on it.
and remember, in the parting of ways he had rigged a device, using the space station, to kill every living creature in range, even had his hand on the trigger before he decided not to go through with it. and i like to think this is in part because of the experience he had with that single dalek earlier is series 1
I’m pretty sure that there’s a fourth doctor line saying that he never carries a gun to show that he means no harm, and if he went in with a gun, violence is more likely to break out.
@@Zach90888 Exactly right, that's always been the Doctor's stance. There are plenty of evil things that have to be stopped violently, but the Doctor's way is to seek a peaceful solution first. If that turns out to be impossible, then there's always a perfectly serviceable death machine in the hands of the evil thing; take it from them and turn it against them. The Doctor know they can because of their hyper-competency in all fields of endeavor. Companions aren't allowed guns because they are part of his team, so coming in with a mind and tools for violence sends the wrong message -- how many times would they have been in big trouble when captured by authorities if they'd had guns in their pockets? -- and companions who think they can rely on guns won't watch, listen, and think are closely as they will if those are their main problem-solving tools.
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Porkour!
PARKOUR!!!
Exactly
The gun thing really is explainable. I assume that the hate for guns manifested through the trauma the war doctor had endured which, even though the memories were suppressed, subconsciously was still there. And in NuWho the doctor used guns only in a few select moments, making these moments even more significant
Great list! Personally, I would add The Timeless Children to the list. That completely ruins the whole of Doctor Who history.
I'm still hoping for the Timeless Child to be revealed to be the *Master* and have that used as a part explanation for why the Master is so crazy, and also why the Master keeps showing up after getting killed for seemingly the last time.
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Master is timeless child, I like. Original series he ran through 14 regenerations. Plus modern Who, who knows how many times they die off camera.
I'm no big fan of the Timeless Child myself, but it doesn't actually affect established canon anywhere near as much as people claim.
Actually, the whole Amy/Doctor scene works because she'd spent ten years romanticizing the Doctor and he shows up just as she's about to make the biggest commitment of her life ... to her best friend. One gets the feeling Amy wasn't particularly experienced ... so, yeah, she does the "bride's last night free" dumb thing because she doesn't want to have any regrets and thinks this will make sure she doesn't have any ... doesn't work, of course, because he's not ready for something like that ... But given how Amy and Rory work out, it was something she needed to make certain of ... Especially when she ends up being his Mother in Law later ... Moffat may regret it, but a lot of us don't really cringe over this.
I totally agree. She was going through her 'one more fling' phase of nerves before the big day.
Also, he's the man she's been waiting for all her life... literally.
Justify it however you want, it’s still terrible to the vast majority of fans, including me
Agreed. I think it worked for Amy's head space at the time.
I love when the show references these bits! When Me and the Doctor discuss the meaning of "the Hybrid" one of the theories Me brings up is that the Doctor is so fond of Earth because he's a human/time lord hybrid. And I'm pretty sure I recall a map of the Doctor's appearances in history that had three different spots for "Atlantis". And up until recently, the extra eight Doctors in "The Brain of Morbius" would have been on this list, but the Timeless Child came up with an explanation for them!
Today (7/12/23) i finished watching the whole series of D.W.! I can't wait to see David Tennant as The Doctor again! He's one of my favorites!
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My fiancé and I are planning to binge again! Congrats on your completion accolade!
@@Comicsluvr awww! That's sweet! & thank u! I was so emotional watching all the Doctors!
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My theory on number 5 is that the voice was the original voice of the silence and that somewhere between series 5 and 6 there was recast.
I always assumed the voice was from the broadcast of the moon landing due to the crack in time occuring at every moment of time including the future
I think that basically all the little inconsistencies in 6 can be explained away with the Broken Chameleon Circuit. Tiny little malfunctions.
That, and the TARDIS is alive and just changes its mind sometimes. Most of the changes to the control room and interior structure weren't explained as intentional updates on the Doctor's part -- the TARDIS just decided it needed to do an update.
SPIDER-DAN!!
Gotta love Ellie!
Okay. Here’s my take on Amy kissing The Doctor. She does it after he life has been in serious jeopardy. In 2003/2004 I worked at a shop. We were held up at gunpoint. Nobody was hurt. But we were shaken up. After the police left. The woman I was working with and I had sex. Right there at work. Neither of us initiated it. It just happened. We’d never been like that before and haven’t since. It was just that one night. We were so thankful to be alive. That’s what Moffat was going for. As soon as I saw that moment in that episode. I got it. I knew exactly what was happening.
However, most people won’t have been in a life threatening situation, so it would seem strange. But I 100% get it.
Yeah, this is a known phenomena, a reaction to near death and disaster. The birth rate bump from WW2 is probably the most well known example (thus giving rise to the Baby Boom and Baby Boomers) but it's also common amongst soldiers that have seen combat together and was even super apparent in New York directly after the 9/11 attacks, which resulted in a population surge 9 months later.
Not saying that was really what he was going for mind you, but your experience at least is spot on.
I've never gotten what all the fuss over Amy kissing the Doctor was about.
As much as I love Amy, she's a bit mentally unbalanced, especially in her early travels with the Doctor.
She's lost her parents, gone to live in a place she hates, has time energy pouring into her every night, sees a spaceman crash land in her backyard, gets a promise to travel on his ship, but then gets stood up. She's also seen therapists who she apparently has a tendency to bite.
She has trust, anger management, and commitment issues.
But, she also has a huge capacity for love.
Now, the aforementioned spaceman returns years later on the night before her wedding.
Finally, she gets to go on the adventures promised to her younger self.
On one of those adventures, she very nearly dies.
Afterwards, fueled by fear and adrenaline and coupled by her own fear of commitment and uncertainty about what she truly wants in life, she tries to make out with this interesting and powerful person that she has spent her childhood obsessing over.
There's also the emotional "freak out" over getting married the next day that many people experience... whether or not they recently spent time with a weeping angel in their brain that was about to kill them. ;)
Honestly, it would have been odd of her not to have done that.
It also sets up her character arc throughout her time of traveling with the Doctor of maturing and coming to realize that Rory is the man she truly loves. As much as she deeply loves and cares about her best friend the Doctor, in the end she gives him up to join Rory in the past.
I think sometimes people just get weird about seeing the Doctor get kissy-kissy. They just don't want a sexual Doctor. Maybe it's because Doctor Who is considered a "kids' " show by some. I'm not sure.
At any rate, I think the hulabaloo about Amy coming on to the Doctor is far overblown.
Personally, I found it amusing, and that it made perfect sense from a character perspective and growth arc.
The 9th doctor stoping time is not what he does the idea of what he was doing was just focusing really hard on the current situation so he could step through
Yeah, I was thinking it's only to portray his concentration!
The ninth doctor didn’t slow down time, he just stopped relying on sight and instead trusted his feelings and steps through it’s just how it’s shot
The Doctor didn't slow time. He sensed an opening. Basically he was playing Omega level Double Dutch, but with fan blades instead of a jump rope. Same way Jenny was able to summersault through those lasers. A Time Lord has time AND spacial awareness.
Exactly, he wasn’t manipulating time, he was sensing the future
Do you not understand The Doctor is waaaay more against violence because of his experiences during the Time War? Also, 10 threatening The Master with a gun is supposed to be his literal breaking point after spending so much time on his own, just like when he declares the laws of time are his, or that he is The Time Lord Victorious.
The scene with 9 with a gun is also supposed to be a breaking point because he thinks Rose is dead, and he doesn't even use the gun nor did he ever plan to according to his own words seconds later.
Did we also forget that in Human Nature/Family of Blood, The Doctor suddenly gets the power to trap people in mirrors, turn them into immortal but immobile scarecrows and the other weird and downright sadistic punishments he comes up with? Why has he never used these abilities before or since against Daleks, Cybermen, Sontarans etc etc
mentioned in the episode. HE was being kind? which basically infers that he hasn't been all this time.
And as a time traveler, the Doctor had all the time he needed to figure out how to accomplish each punishment -- he wouldn't necessarily be able to do those things to someone on the spur of the moment.
I don't think it was a case of "suddenly getting" the ability to do that. We as the audience have only seen a fragment of what the Doctor is really capable of, because the Doctor is a pacifist most of the time, so there's really never any Reason to use these mega-powerful punishments. Why trap a Dalek or a Cyberman inside a mirror if blowing it up is the easier/safer/smarter victory?
Also, worth remembering that in Family of Blood, the Doctor wasn't acting out of necessity. Those punishments were self-indulgent. They came from his rage, his fury at having an entire potential lifetime stolen from his human self. It wasn't just punishment, it was revenge. They wanted to kill him and steal his life-force to prolong their own lives indefinitely, so he made them immortal, just not in any way that would grant them benefit. That's why in the monologue at the end, when Baines is recounting it, he says, "He never raised his voice. That was the worst thing. The fury of the Time Lord. And then we discovered why. Why this Doctor, who had fought with gods and demons, why he'd run away from us and hidden. He was being kind."
Ellie on song as normal. The spider Dan singing was too much 😂😂
honestly the moment with Christopher Ecleston and the fans I never thought of it as him slowing the time or stopping it - for me it was always his deep concentration and perfect timing
The Doctor in the RTD era hating guns makes sense actually, since he just came out of the Time War. The only thing the Ninth Doctor CONSIDERS shooting is the Daleks (which he doesn't do anyway) and in Bad Wolf he goes "come on like I was ever gonna shoot", and the 10th Doctor either didn't have any intentions of shooting the Master or Rassilon or he initially did and then changed his mind. As for the 11th and 12th Doctors well that could be Moffat forgetting the Doctor's opposition to firearms in the RTD era.
Tennant's Doctor took up the revolver because Rassilon was that serious a threat (and, possibly, because shooting a Time Lord would only cause regeneration, so it was more like temporarily removing Rassilon as a variable to get something else done). It was supposed to be a signal that the Doctor couldn't risk not having every tool at hand to have a chance of winning against a Time Lord more dangerous than the Master. After that, though, they kept reusing the idea that it must be super-series for realsies because, ooh, the Doctor's picked up a gun! It must be super important! Mind you, the Doctor used a gun in the old series whenever it was the best tool for the job, such as when facing off against a vicious giant rat in a Victorian sewer with limited options for escape. A gun is a tool, but the Doctor never wanted anyone to consider it the first, best option in every situation.
4:31 He's not slowing down time. He's just using his ability he mentions in the previous episode, where he mentions being able to feel the movement of the Earth. He just does the same for the ship he's on.
Holy crap Ellie singing/humming is adorable
You forgot something even more important about the doors. While in the revival series the inside of the doors still resemble a police box, in classic era Doctor Who the doors on the inside were entirely different doors than the doors on the outside.
There's even a line in episode where the Doctor says "I told you it was bigger on the inside." to which Queen Elizabeth responds "The door isn't, you nearly took my head off." They came out of the TARDIS ridding a horse in that scene. However in classic Doctor Who the doors actually were bigger on the inside, wider, taller, and thicker than the doors on the outside. It never made sense how the entrance to the TARDIS really worked. I mean if the Doctor and Queen Elizabeth had exited through the original TARDIS doors on a horse she wouldn't have any issue with the size of those doors. But it would be unexplainable how the doors shrank on the other side.
This gets even worse because in the Classic Era we've also seen the Master's TARDIS some times with an even smaller door on the outside forcing the master to duck as he enters the TARDIS but allowing him to stand up perfectly straight as he exits because the inside door is so much larger than the outside door. There's also an episode the Doctor temporarily fixed the chameleon circuit allowing his TARDIS to turn into other objects for a while and some of the things it turned into didn't even have a door, the actors would just step out from behind the object and we'd never see what they were actually exiting from.
This does happen ONCE in new who. Jodie Whittaker's Doctor separated from her own TARDIS on Gallifrey steals another working TARDIS which upon landing turns into a tree. That TARDIS was abandoned there still looking like a tree as she gets back into her own TARDIS. But just like in classic Doctor Who the interior of the TARDIS has those giant classic era doors while the outside doesn't have a door and Jodie just steps out from behind the tree never actually showing what she where she was exiting from.
We also see the giant classic era doors on Clara's diner TARDIS to which the opposite side of the giant double doors is the women's bathroom door in the back of the diner. So not only are the doors larger on the inside but there's also 2 of them inside and only a single door outside.
We have never been given an explanation for how those doors work.
I always noticed that, in the classic stories, there's a kind of black void beyond the interior TARDIS doors. It took a small amount of time to walk from the white-doored console room exit to the outer shell's exit. I always assumed, admittedly with little evidence, that there was some kind of unsettlingly dark "dimensional hallway" between the inside and outside. At some point between old and new series, though, the TARDIS redesigned itself for direct access, with a side effect of making internal and external doors into a single pair of doors. Don't ask me how. I mean, it's a structure that can eject bedrooms into the space between dimensions, I assume it has its ways.
4:40 not true, it happens later on in the end of Capaldi’s run when he jumps off of the castle into the water in Heaven Sent
The Doctor is like any coward and doesn't want to carry a gun but grabs it when he's pissed or really needs it.
Humans are able to focus and speed up the processing of information and in a sense slow down time. So him stepping through a fan is just a timing trick, you'll notice if you watch the clip again that the fan doesn't slow down and he moved at a normal speed.
I never thought the 9th Doctor was stopping time. He felt rather he was concentrating so he could see everything in slow motion
Yes, I had totally forgotten about the Ood sitting on the loo. Thanks much for making me remember that one.
First off, love WhoCulture videos. You also have a very charismatic voice. Now the not so nice bit. We’re going to have to agree to disagree regarding the 2nd episode with the ninth Doctor. I actually love that scene and the music that accompanies it. There the Doctor stands, he has just made it past the other fan blades and yet there is still one to go. I can only imagine how many things are running through his mind at the moment. How many of his past “failings” and even echos of trauma from the Time War are surfacing. The screams of Jabe, the weight of the lives of the living, The crushing what if and if only is related to the no longer living… add to that the fact that he is personally responsible for bringing a companion (Rose) into this dire situation. In the episode, Bad Wolf, Rose says that she sees everything… after looking into the heart of the TARDIS (what the doctor calls the time vortex, shortly before he regenerates into the 10th doctor). The ninth doctor responded to Rose with an almost smile, saying that that’s what he sees all the time and doesn’t that just drive you mad. Taking that information and going back to the 2nd episode, the Doctor is constantly seeing all these things. He eventually explains to Rose that he knows what can be changed and what can’t, unlike her. All this potentially bombarding the Doctor as he stands before that final spinning fan. I don’t think that he was ‘slowing time’ at all. The music, him closing his eyes, the fact that everything seem to go to Slow Mo… I think it’s something experienced by a great many people. Not just alien Time Lords. An athlete in the Olympics, closing their eyes for just a moment, centring themselves, taking a steadying breath, clearing away anything that doesn’t involve what they are about to do. Narrowing ones focus to the sole challenge in front of them. That’s what I saw when I watched that scene. He wasn’t suddenly faster, nor was time suddenly flowing slower. He was centring himself. Aware that his next step might very well be his last. Christopher Eccleston portrayed that moment ‘ Fantastically’. Demeanour calm and with body language that pretty much told you that the doctor was willing to except whatever came next. I found it a beautiful reminder that we all, at times, need to just be accepting of whatever our next step may be. Because we all have to keep moving forward, come, what may. AnyWho, that’s my interpretation of what happened in that scene. One other thing relating to that episode, and if I merely heard what you said in the video incorrectly, I apologize. But I think you said something about the sun blowing up? According to the episode, the sun actually expanded, which is what caused the earth to get “roasted”. Once again, love the channel, love your charisma. Looking forward to more videos. Best wishes.
Number 5 - THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU...honestly I've spent years (a decade at this point?) being really frustrated by that never getting sewn up. Always assumed it was Omega, and they just dropped the storyline.
The time stopping one, I don't think he actually stopped time. I think it was trying to portray him focusing to step through at the perfect moment. Since he's a time Lord he's probably very good with his timing (haha) but he didn't fully slow or stop it.
What gets me is how people take this stuff so seriously.
"Oh, what about this... they fluffed that up, it shouldn't have happened/been like that..."
It's all made up! It's just fiction, fantasy and trying to fit specific scenes and situations into reality is unbelievable. Like when someone makes a half hour video on how the turbo lifts could possibly work on the refit Enterprise. Nobody cared when they made it up in the 60s but now people obsess over these sorts of things, make endless videos how something doesn't work.
Just accept it as entertainment made up by people who aren't concerned with reality and the realms of possibility.
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Why, you had the opportunity to say "does whatever a Spider-Dan can"...
(I am aware that is how it goes in the Simpsons but still, FOR SHAME)
"There was little reason to believe he was pulling anyone's leg at the time..."
... Actually, I always thought he was doing just that, and it fit the setting and mental state he was in at the time...
I'm still surprised people keep bringing this one up, when there are many other things wrong with that TV movie... (None of them related to Paul and his performance tho...)
My basic thought on the movie is that it could have been worse, and Paul was great! So great it was worth it.
And thanx for your #1!!! Totally agree there!!! ;-)
I'm fairly certain Timelords have been stated to see, feel, and process time differently than other species. Like how the doctor can see fixed points like in waters of Mars and how Captain Jack is a fixed point and how wrong that is to him. Therefore, surely the 9th doctor was simply feeling the flow of time and stepping through the fast blades in a way practically none others could do so.
11:12 The whole idea of the Doctor is he is a mystery! Lots of things in this video, are so minor, it just seems picky, and there are explanations for most of them, either in former series or later ones. You just have to work it out.
4:34 i always thought the 9th doctor was just focusing.
it’s been proven in The Ghost Monument that the snap only works with a key in your possession
on behalf of everyone i can say that the car key tardis was in fact funny!
I thought it was hilarious and fit so well with Donna being the current companion.
4:25 I think in this scene the Doctor just walks in perfect time for the fan blades to completely miss him. Sort of a leap of faith moment. The issue is just that the speed the fans were animated to move at is way too fast for him to have walked through at the speed he did.
I’ve never thought he slowed time down with the fan I always saw it as a leap of faith because he needed to save everyone and his last chance was to risk being cut in half. He is always courageous and he never backs down.
I really like this “Fantastic” content
On the contrary, the bit where they lock the Tardis like a car is *very* funny
This may be the worst of these lists I've seen.
The Kiss was, perhaps, a bit of a flop, but the idea that Amy had issues to work out before she could fully commit to Rory actually makes a lot of sense.
As others have noted, he didn't "stop time" for the fan blades; rather, it was a case of attuning himself to their timing perfectly--something which absolutely makes sense for him, though the ability is never really repeated.
On guns: The Ninth Doctor is the Doctor seeking redemption for the War Doctor--of COURSE he's developed an anti-violence streak. That said, he's also routinely placed in positions where some degree of violence is necessary. The fact that this causes him to break a rule he'd rather hew to is called characterization, not inconsistency.
Honestly, the entire movie is generally considered forgettable. The notion that one line of it has special prominence in that regard is pretty silly.
The dormancy of the creature inside the moon is explicitly a case of hibernation bordering on stasis, and part of the species' long-term evolutionary strategy. It's highly likely that prior visits to the moon are simply during a time when the surface is simply a literal shell--how often do they go more than 80 miles below the surface (a plausible guess for the shell's thickness, during this period).
Let's put this vid at Number One on "Ten times WhatCulture jumped the shark."
How does a new-born lay an egg bigger than itself?
Are you saying it's bigger on the inside?
@@John_Smith_60 Okay, that one, i admit, I dunno about. Maybe it draws on the matter from the previous shell?
The 9th doctor didnt slow down time, he was scared, adrenaline rushing, seeing everything in slow motion. its a common occurrence when adrenaline rushes. thats how i always saw it, never once thought he slowed down time
I like that when Ellie says 'banish from your memory' it's the clip of Amy forgetting the silence!
The first one is very easily explainable. Boys get bored sometimes growing up and learn weird skills. I personally put hundreds of hours into trying to flip over a couch when I was a kid. Why? No reason other than I thought it would be cool. It’s entirely possible Danny did the same. I know the monster was taller than a couch, but after you learn the basics, you learn to scale up and get stronger. And, jumping a stationary object is not the same as dodging a car.
River Song... the best character ever! YES!!! 💋
Here are some other things:
(1) The first Doctor mentions having built the TARDIS. Some people will try to excuse this as him having only built one part of the TARDIS, but it's clear from context that that's not what he meant.
(2) The Doctor is able to effortlessly defeat the family of blood, trapping one in a mirror, and doing similar things to the others. The implication is that he has godlike abilities that he was choosing not to use. Except... he never does this ever again. He doesn't trap the Daleks in a mirror or anything.
(3) The Doctor was Merlin
(4) The Doctor was the Valeyard.
(5) The Doctor has the ability to make objects appear and disappear, whether as the 3rd Doctor in Ambassadors of Death or the 7th Doctor in the Greatest Show in the Galaxy. Even the 12th Doctor gets in on the act with pulling a cup of tea from his pocket. Now, sure, he could have dimensionally transcendental pockets, but that doesn't really explain ALL of these uses of his superpower.
(6) The Doctor can heal others, but it uses his regeneration energy, but he can still do it when he has no regenerations left. Now imagine, if he had an infinite number of regenerations from some silly 13th Doctor story. He should be able to heal everybody who is ever injured from every injury. There should be no limitations on his ability to heal.
(7) The Doctor (as John Smith) in Family of Blood has even more powers than the ones he uses against the family. Even as just "John Smith", he can toss a ball in a precise way to cause a sequence of events that saves a baby from a falling piano.
(8) The first time the TARDIS became a police box was when the First Doctor was with Susan and it should've changed afterwards but didn't. So, the Fugitive Doctor can NOT have a TARDIS that looks like a police box, if she comes before the First Doctor, which is the strong implication of those stories.
i feel that the part with the “time stopping” power is more something to do with how he is so closely tied with time that he can mentally slow it down so he could get the timing right
7:18 Please bring back Lady Cassandra 😂
The ninth doctor scene with the fans to me always played as him concentrating on the timing of when he can step through between the two blades
Paul McGann is one of my favorites with Big Finnish Productions audio dramas. Especially with companion Charlotte Pollard. They make a great duo. I wish BBC would have done more with him. He would have been great.
**Power of the Doctor spoilers**
Thanks for the guns highlight re: Classic Who. I was watching Power of the Doctor and I busted out laughing when Ace & Tegan pulled out machine guns and started spraying gold bullets at the Cybermen. My immediate thought was that they must have come from a VERY different era of the Doctor, and I meant to go back and find out.
the doctor probably doesnt like guns, but uses them grudgingly if he has to
A gun is a solution, but it's almost never the best solution if you think about all the other solutions. When armed Ogrons are coming for you, though, sometimes you just have to disintegrate them so you can survive to reach the better solution to the bigger problem.
4:05 "The 9th doctor and his new pet human"?! 😂 i actually had to rewind to make sure i heard that right😂
For point 7, I always read that as the doctor being able to focus enough to detect the interval of the fan. Not really slowing down time so much as detecting it which always made sense to me. I would love to hear some other theories.
My take on the half-human thing has always been that it was just a throwaway line about being human on his mother's side but that he was half-human in his 8th incarnation. At that point, he had regenerated within the morphogenetic field of the Earth 5 out of 7 times, and given how unskilled he's always been at regeneration, eventually ending up half-human was practically inevitable. Everyone was averse to this idea because they hated the idea that one of his parents was human, but this explanation would bypass that issue.
Well Marc Platt intended the ending of Lungbarrow to imply that Leela and Andred's child would eventually travel back to the Dark Times and become the Other, who ultimately dissolves himself in the Loom network to be rewoven as the First Doctor explaining how he can be "half-human on (his) mother's side" but also Loom-born.
3:51 Multiverse, certainly!
Re no. 5: I haven't ccompared cast notes, but the voice in the Tardis sounds exactly like the old man hologram from The Lodger.
Since we later learn that the time machine on Craig's house was commandeered by The Silence, there's enough of a connection there to allow at least my headcanon to let it go. 😁
The Doctor in "The End of the World" was not slowing down actual time. He was slowing things down in his mind so that he could he could time his move between the blades.
I think the Doctor's disdain for guns post Time War makes perfect sense, even if he had used them in the past. While 12 later shooting the General felt very left field given this... he did so to save Clara. Desperate times.
He also checked to make sure the General wouldn't be permanently dead before pulling the trigger.
@@thefrozenyak5272 Pfffttttt Oh that makes it so much better. There are a lot of places one could shoot *you* that wouldn't be fatal. Would that make it okay?
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I genuinely don't think he did any time manipulation here, he straight up wanted to die - keep in mind this was only a few years after the Time War, The Doctor wasn't himself at this time, in the previous episode he literally blew up a building with C4.
In his mind either he saves everyone, or he dies in an instant and it's not his problem anymore, from a 9th Doctor perspective, this is straight up a win-win scenario.
Plus, as other people have pointed out, the moments leading up to him stepping through the blade where time seems to slow down, is really just him focusing really hard and calculating the exact moment to step through.
4:20 -- definitely not the interpretation I took of that scene when watching the episode. My take: the Doctor took a breath and focused, letting him know when it is safe to pass between the blades with a good reaction time. This effect is similar to when playing games or sports and even though the action might not be happening at a speed any different from other times, but when you get "in the zone", everything seems to slow down enough for you to react to events quicker than usual.
In the episode, I think the visual effect of the fan slowing down was just meant to be a representation of getting "in the zone" and not about any special abilities.
I think the "Sometimes aversion to guns" makes perfect sense.
Partially from his new persona via Regeneration. But also because:
By the 9th Doctor, he's been IN the Last Great War MULTIPLE times. Even though it's started that only Caan was the first to break the Timelock surrounding the War, there's points of the War that include the 7th-11th Doctors.
And even by the 9th, he describes it as "Pure Hell."
It would make sense that after so much death, an individual would either not care (The Timelords/Daleks) or care WAY to much (The Doctor.)
Also in End of Time, he didn't genuinely threaten Rassilon and the Master with the gun, he was planning on shooting the machine all along. And in "Hell Bent" he shot that General, knowing they would regenerate, at the end of an ark that was all about him going too far.
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9:21 The Timeless Child might actually salvage McGann's line about being half human. If the Doctor's father came through that rift, then fell in love and had a child with a human, then when the Doctor's mother died they might have tried to return home with the child, only to discover to their horror that the future Doctor was either unable to cross the rift, or unable to survive on the other side, because of their human heritage. It would explain why the child was left behind, especially if their father was unable to cross back and rejoin them.
The Doctor's memories were hidden, but Eight's brain was so scrambled that a few random details, like being half human on his mother's side, were able to slip to the surface before being buried again. But even with the actual memories inaccessible, the Doctor knows there's something special about the Earth, something that keeps drawing them back!
the doctor never manipulated time to walk through the fan blades, he focused and took a leap of faith... the scene is played in slow motion for our benefit, which you can tell is the case since he also steps through in slow motion, I'd be surprised if more people thought he slowed down time there... he's just trying to get the timing right
The Doctor didn't slow down time. He sped up his perception of time.
The perspective shift of "slowing time" is also present in Heaven Sent when he jumps out of the window, complete with explanation. I always understood it as a perspective shift for the viewer, not actually slowing time. But I'm also a fan of The Matrix (not all of them, just the first 2) where this is also used, but referred to as bullet time there.
There's a nod to the Atlantis thing in S9E1 when UNIT is looking for possible crisis points where he might be (around 20 mins into the episode):
"There we go. San Martino, Troy, multiples for New York, and three possible versions of Atlantis."
The eighth Doctor's line about being half human can't be a throwaway line because the whole thing becomes a plot point later in the movie, as the Master confirms it and it becomes somehow crucial to the control of the Eye of Harmony in the TARDIS.
The Doctor after the Time War never wanted to use a gun again but would use one if they saw it as the only option. In two of those three examples you named he didn't shoot a person (one not shooting the other shooting a device) and the third was a Time Lord he even wished luck before they regenerated!
That last one was the most shocking time the Doctor used a gun, too, because the General wasn't a threat. They were only an obstacle in the Doctor's plan. It was perhaps the most alarming act of violence since he planned to bash in a man's head with a rock in An Unearthly Child. This isn't a complaint, by the way. It just went to show how far out of character he'd become in his obsession with saving Clara.
I agree with most of the comments about 9 stepping through the fan. It wasn’t time slowing, he was just showing how he can speed up his thoughts and figure out when to step through.
And secondly when there’s a random voice in the tardis it isn’t random. The tardis was getting stuck in a time loop and struggling. It intercepted a moment in time. That moment was more than likely Dorium telling the doctor about the prophecy when they were in that tomb. The tardis has a history of warning the doctor about things and also intercepting different moments of time. Also she thought she was going to explode in that moment and probably was trying to warn river one last time
I hope i never forget 9 walking through the fan blades because that scene is absolutely awesome
The doctor's Timestopping powers isn't that at all. It's him centering himself and timing the swing of the fan so that he can step through at precisely the second it passes by. It's like timing water drip from a faucet and running something under it without getting it wet. I'm not going to look them up now, but there have been plenty examples of the doctor getting the timing of something precise to within a minimum range.
The initial concept behind what became the Paul McGann version of Doctor Who revolved around the idea that the doctor was half human, which is why he kept coming back to earth: defined his mother. Or father. They seem to kind of go back-and-forth on which parent they wanted it to be. I’ve dug into this as much as I can, and there is not a ton of information, but it looks like at least for a while they were suggesting that one of the doctors parents may have found someone from earth who developed time travel independently of Gallifrey. It also appears that they were playing with the notion that this parent was lost in time somehow and the doctor was trying to find him or her.
That's a really interesting idea. It solves all the issues: why a Time Lord would consider a human compatible; why the Doctor would steal a TARDIS and travel the universe; why the escaping Doctor would bring a family member with him (in addition to sparing her the shame of having a renegade grandfather, he would have hoped to introduce Susan to her great-grandmother). It also feeds back into the question of what happened to the Doctor's family, whom the second Doctor said were all dead (or at least "gone," which can mean a lot of different things in Doctor Who).
@@SingularityOrbit It would also likely explain why his temperament is so different from other time lords, and his difficulty with regeneration. IT’s not a terrible idea, though modern fans would hate it
@@mahatmarandy5977 Well, I don't hate it. Anything can work if they explain it well and use it well. _gestures in one direction with hand while trying to nudge the Timeless Child under a table with foot_
@@SingularityOrbit [laughing] yeah, good point. When it happened, American fans were rather incensed and British fans didn’t seem to care much, at least the ones I knew didn’t. After the 2005 revival, people in general made fun of the half-human thing. Then The Timeless Child happened, and made people forget any earlier infractions. :)
@@mahatmarandy5977 I remember that British comments always seemed more bemused than anything else. As an American who'd hoped the TV movie might bring the show back to life, I remember the American response as mostly just, "What? But . . . _why?_ What possible purpose does this serve?" Now, having easy access to behind-the-scenes information, we know the size of the bullet we dodged when that relaunch failed.
Poor Atlantis! It was destroyed _three_ times? What do these people have against Atlantis?
I never viewed it as the doctor slowing or stopping time when he stepped through the fan it was a neccesary leap of faith he made for the safety of the people on the station. His facial expressions before and after reveal this
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IMO it was more like the Doctor was hyper focusing so he could move at the right time and the FX department slowed the footage down to display this, however this still makes no sense as the fan was still moving too fast for him to move across like that.
Regarding the ninth doctor fan walk, we do actually kind of, sort of get an in universe explanation. Fast forward to Heaven Sent - the doctor explains exactly how he knows to jump out of the window and says the following "Rule One of dying: don't. Rule two: slow down. Youve got the rest of your life. The faster you think, the slower it will pass." Then he makes all those calculations in his head really really fast before diving into the water. The ninth doctor is likely doing the same thing.
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The ninth doctor was just really in the zone and walked through the fan without getting hit. He didnt slow down time.
The doctor 'slowing down time' was not a thing. They shot it like that to show him taking a leap of faith as it were. He'd close his eyes, slow motion cuts in to build suspense aaaand he walks forward, just getting his lucky card stamped for the day.