HOW TO USE OVERDRIVE & BOOST and HOW NOT TO.
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- With Marshall JCM800 2203 aka The Bad Boy and Peavey 5150 Block Letter.
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Timecodes:
- Intro: 0:00
- The gear & signal chain: 0:24
- In front of the amps: 1:41
- In the fx loop: 9:41
- Conclusion: 12:30
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Wish we had these You Tube channels and instructors 30 years ago, would have saved a ton of time and learning curve. It is a great time to be a guitar player, but then again, it's always been a great time to be a guitar player.
Indeed 👌🎶.
In the 90’s stuff like this was like folklore. For example I remember hearing that someones’s brother have heard from someone else that Cobain used DS-1 maxed out to get his sound. So I bought one and it didn’t sound like Nirvana at all. Then several months later some other guy explained the correct settings to me. Good times.
Yeah, I figured out how to use the SD-1 as a boost to my Marshall JCM Slash watching Euge's videos. Guy is legit.
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I like the Andy Timmons and Andy Wood approach to using a compressor as a boost or simply as an "always on" pedal.
100% correct! This is how I've gotten my tone and dynamics out of the amps since 1988 ... be it Marshall, Peavey, Randall or Soldano - the SD1 always works!
Yeah! 💪
Very well explained. That ESP with Jackson headstock is perfection.
Excellent video, Mr V! Loved all the useful info.
Thanks!
Great info - well presented and demonstrated, great tones and great job of breaking down and explaining Euge - well done! Rock on! -David Taub, Next Level Guitar Inc.
Thank you kindly!
Love your videos. I find them so helpful for a new player like me.
Glad to hear it!
Thanks for another great video that clearly illustrates what you're saying as you cover the details. That Marshall sounds amazing with the SD-1 and I was digging it was more than I thought I would when hearing it against the 5150. Seeing how bad the SD-1 sounds in the FX loop was also really informative. That Wampler pedal sounded helped things sound even more amazing as well when you kicked it on.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!
Sounds killer. All of it
that jsm 800 has enough to rock by itself what a sound marshall is marshal no matter what
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Hello Euge, very good video. Thanks for your tips💪💪
Glad you liked it! Thanks!
thanks Euge, I learn a lot of things every time I see your videos, in the past I spent a lot of money changing amplifiers when it was better to learn how to use them better to get the sound we are looking for.
Great to hear! Thanks!
Thank you! I love the SD 1 with my Marshall DSL40CR😎
Thanks man! 💪
yeah,the Sd-1 was my first pedal back in 1983 (MIJ) and it has always made everything tight in the bass erea...thats why like it!
It was my first overdrive pedal (the one I was using in front - MIJ) and second in general. The first one was HM-2 (MIJ) which I still have too 😎🤟. Exactly 👌.
Same here ... I'm on my 3rd SD1 now :)
Great video, and yes I'm sure your channel has all levels of experience of guitar player's. These tips and nuances of setting up your amp is info that is often glossed over by many instructors and even mid level guitar players may not know this important information.
Cool, thanks!
my personal hero of youtube channels about guitar gear !!! 🤘big hello friend
Wow, thanks!
Great video Euge , I’ve been using the Boss SD-1 for ever, in front of my Marshall’s to boost them and in front of my Laney Gh100l also, To me it’s always been the best boost/ overdrive to me also but I agree you need a noise gate.
Good stuff! Thanks!
That Marshall sounds balls to the walls man. That's great tone, and I'm surprised I like the sound here better than the 5150 (which good too).
Hence it’s nickname ”The Bad Boy” 💪😎.
Tge SD-1 pushes that edge of tone, that just makes it raging killer and cuts the tone through the mix.
Man, that 84' JCM 800 is just ridiculously killer. Got get a Marshall from that same year.
I just got an sd1 and after messing with it for a couple days I settled on the exact same setting you have🤘
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GREAT video for me, to my point of view Euge, THANKS!🎉
Glad to hear it! Thanks!
I recently got the Maxon OD820 and it's glorious, especially through the 6505 green channel. SD1 is still one of my favourite pedals of all time though.
Im pretty impressed of your wall of ampheads behind you😂Me like it verry mutch indeed 👍
totally right , i use overdrive in front and if needs a praeq on the loop it all depends on pups, cab, amp , ho well you know what i am at. great video
Right on! Thanks!
Hey Euge, I always enjoy your videos and playing. Sounds awesome dude. I've noticed that you primarily use your Marshall's and Peavey's. Do you ever use any other tube amps, or have you settled on the Marshall and Peavey stuff for sound?
Thanks! I’ve used those since 90s so they’re kinda part of me and since they work and do the job…well…they work and do the job 😎.
Because of your love for the Marshalls I have been using them alot in the kemper and man boosted with an SD1 it does sound amazing!
Great to hear! That’s the way! Or SISO 😎.
With an actual SD1 or with the Kemper counterpart ?
@@djabthrash actual SD1, I find the boosts in the unit itself don't work as well as a real boost in front. IMHO anyways
@@suffersystemstudiosThank you !
" find the boosts in the unit itself don't work as well as a real boost in front"
Heard this a ton btw. Some pro metal players (like dudes in Whitechapel, etc) say they use actual clean boosts in front of their Kempers.
@@djabthrash Yeah I use a tubescreamer in front for my 5150 tones and an sd1 for the marshall type amps. The amps sound real and work great, but using the inner boosts kill all that. Sounds amazing bossted up front like a real amp would. Having my first show using the kemper live this friday and we will see how it holds up! Sounded awesome at band practice yesterday so have high hopes for it
This was a great video! I’m still a bit stuck how the different ohms and wattage works with the different speakers in a 4x12. Would you be able to explain that further in the future?
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks! Great suggestion! Will add it to my ever growing to do list 😎.
@Euge Valovirta : Killer tones here.
NB : Would be cool if you added " (Boss SD1 - Marshall JCM800 - Peavey 5150)" at the end of the video title.
Thanks! A bit too long for a heading 🤷♂️.
I’ve been doing it opposite where I’d keep the overdrive boost on and then switch to the amps clean channel on my tsl100’s foot switch and then slightly backing off the guitar volume. It’s a nice sound but I’ll definitely have to try it your way as well. Great vids 🤘
Thanks!
Wow brother great video thanks
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!
Thank you for the video, uncle 🙂.
My pleasure! 😎
I'm a drummer, but I also love my setup of a Jackson King V through an SD-1 into a Marshall Valvestate. :-D
That’s the way! 💪
Always love your content, I currently run 6 different drives on my pedalboard, I like gain stacking lol. However I picked up an Ibanez pentatone, would love to get your opinion on it, Cheers!
Glad to hear! Thanks!
I've been boosting high gain amps with the REVV G3 lately.
A small dose of the G3 adds magic to anything.
Use the metal zone with the 5150 and it will blow your mind with bottom end..SD1 is a great pedal but the metal zone is out of this world and with emg's gives you a great Zakk Wylde tone..
Dude that riff at 1:57 Sick dude
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Another excellent video from the tone master. Would you mind sharing the settings on the bad boy?
Thanks! Oh I don’t have any; it changes depending what I’m looking for, what cabs / mics I use, what guitar I use etc. I just use my ears so no idea where the knobs were on this one.
If I had known how to use my SD-1 correctly when I was still able to play my JCM 800 2210 and my JCM 900, this would have made a world of difference in the tone.
It does help in front of my Mark V though, especially on the crunch mode.
Thanks for these tips and tools of the trade!
My pleasure! Thanks!
I think we both have the same approach. Only thing I differ with is that I prefer the noise gate in the loop. Good video!
Cool, thanks!
Amazing vídeo.
Thanks!
@Euge Valovirta : sorry if it's asked before : what's your take on the TS (tube screamer or equivalent) vs Boss SD1 thing ?
My jvm satriani has a noise gate , people love the noise gate. It shifts the mids, it’s like having a compressor on.
The top end gets muted and the mids get more focused
I don’t like having it on either
Hey bro, super happy with my vintage SD-1 plugged on my Marshall SC20H (thanks to your advice on a previous video).What do you use for reverb? The build-in reverb from your amps (when available) or a pedal? Which one? Also, do you use a chorus pedal? Keep it up, you rock 🤘🏻
Cool! I don’t use reverb and hardly ever delay. I like in your face sound. When I’m mixing I add if I feel so and the mix/song calls for one. Pretty much delay for leads to create ambience; mostly my old Lexicon PCM70 & TC Electronic D-TWO. But live like I said I’m bone dry up there on stage.
I use Boss CE-5 for cleans but not always.
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watched this earlier and went right to guitar center and bought a waza craft sd-1. lol damn you, sir!
That’s the way! 😎
Man you get the best tones! What kind of interface do you use to make these vids?
Thanks! Here’s everything: th-cam.com/video/gCj20sXeh-Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Jubb-ql2qb6mZWNi
thanx!
You're welcome!
Great video. Noticed your SD has a red line going over it. Does it have some sort of mod? Kind of like how analogman pedals that get modded are marked?
Thanks! It’s bone stock. It’s just some paint spatter from somewhere.
Pretty cool Euge! Ever tried the HotMod with your 800 for more tube saturation?
Thanks! Yeah I’ve done many videos about Legendary Tones’ stuff. My OG 80s 800s don’t need any since they’re pretty damn hot but with the Zakk Wylde signature 800 those work really well. Atm I have Mr. Scary Mod in it.
@@EugeValovirta230V Sweet! Loving mine in my 1982 2203. It's a bit on the less aggressive side so the HotMod really helped to kick it into high gain! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Still watching. Still playing the LTD Pheonix you reviewed.
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i have played death metal for 10 years now. even had the pleasure to play a good handfull of shows here and there. i have ALLWAYS had my noisegate in front of my TS9. i have just figured out why the local sound guy calls my rig "the noise" fuck me man. 10 years, i really wish he had told me though...
thx for you videos, they are great.
Glad to hear you like them! Thanks!
My rig is a Schaffer Storm into a crunchy Friedman or Marshall. Seems to do what I like. The key is not doing it into a dead clean amp like a fender or something
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1:43 That’s a lot of signal travelling!
11:25 this is great for my one man black metal project 😎
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Try recording right out of the fx send, that way you can get the ultimate shit tone 😂
No difference between a hardcore biker rebuilding his Harley for max horsepower output --- and this metal head tweaking his Marshalls and pedals for killer overdrive on his shredder. Two connoisseurs serious about their craft and passion.❤
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In your experience, would it be useful to play with a Clean Boost pedal always ON inserted in the Effects Loop of a Marshall JCM 800 head? Or would it be better to use it (always inserted in the effects loop) but activate it only when I do a guitar solo to have an increase in volume?
Whatever works the best in any given situation.
Hey Euge I got a question. I have my fortin zuul noisegate in my loop on my 50 watt evh 6l6 head but I use that key input through the spliff buffer pedal too. My question is , do you think it would sound better if I put it in the chain after the overdrive and just get rid of the spliff pedal? I'm gonna try it when I get home but was wondering what you thought? I seen a video about the zuul and spliff so I've just been using it in the loop since I got it but if I can get more chug and clarity in the chain I'd rather do that.
I would just try and see / hear. Like with any gear; just messing up, tweaking knobs, putting ot to different places in the signal chain and see what a certain gear can do. Simple as that 😎. There’s no rules ’cos if it sounds good it’s good.
Hello Euge, I noticed that you prefer SD-1 as a boost for Marshalls. I own JCM2000 (50DSL), do you think SD-1 is the right choice for this amp or TS9 will work better?
Just a personal preference. I use my TS-808 a lot too but SD-1 usually with JCM800s. SD-1 was the first od pedal I ever bought and JCM800 my first tube amp and that combo has been delivering great since early 90s so it’s pretty much part of my DNA 😎.
Hi Euge how about mxr 10 band eq in the loop is that useable, would be cool to see another video on that as your opinions are always valued, I too use the SD1 in the front end it works great
Sure. On my to do - list.
Check out videos by LambChoppers. He does a lot of EQ in the FX Loop demos, be it with GEQs or PEQs.
You could also name the vid "killer tube amp metal sounds for dummies"....you couldn't make it more clear...great vid guide as always man....\m/
😁👌. Thanks man!
hi euge ! I was figuring out to buy a TSL or a DSL last week.. To be honest i watched your videos about 4 times on diffrent divices.. And no joke , i dreamt tonight and you were telling me in my dream to go for a TSL ..
Go! 😎
Hi good morning Euge! greath playing again, This video made me debate to pick up a TSL60.. And as i told you about my dream.. yesterday i bought mine ~! TSL60 I did yesterday, I plugged it in, and i was wondering if you experience any Fizz? I use a Gibson Lespaul With burstpuckers Pro. And the Marshall MG4x12A Cabinet. When i just play a Solo, i cant stand the fizzy/fuzzy sound comming from it :O! Do you have any idea :) ? Thanks
will you provide some tabs when you will release the song with the riff @ 2:00? its killer, cant wait for the release
The song is already released. Streaming, video & album pre-order links in the description below. We’re working on a tab book for the full album.
@@EugeValovirta230Voh sorry i havent read the description. the song is awesome, killer riffs and production cant wait for the tabs! thanks for your work Euge
No worries man! Good that you asked 😎👌. Thanks!
Because of you I switched from TS mini to SD1. Great move, even you typically use TS in front of 5150 (not in this video). I have EVH 50w III and I like SD better.
Good stuff!
How would you describe the difference between the two ?
I dont know. I like more the gain character of SD. I used to use TS almost all the time in „right” way, i.e. gain 0, vol full and maybe this is the reason way i like SD more 😂 Now im at gain 7:00, vol 4:00 and at 12:00 of EVH blue CHANEL gain, and this is it.
@@milsamilsa-is8uvInteresting ! Gonna try it out with a EVH ampsim this way.
Do you recommend the vintage SD-1 black label from the 1980's, over all other versions of the SD-1?
No. They’re all the same.
Man your tones are incredible. Are you doing post EQ, or is that just amp and mic positions?
Thanks! In the mix obviously whatever feels & sounds the best but when I’m just playing like on this one there’s Oeksound’s Soothe just to tame (harsh) upper mids a bit.
It’s all about getting it right from the get go and every part of the signal chain matters.
@EugeValovirta230V I think the idea of getting it right from the get go is the best idea. You save yourself a ton of time not having to EQ everything after.
Are you adding bass afterwards or do you play bass to the track?
Indeed. I play bass too and have played it on many albums I’ve done over the years as a solo artist and in the bands I’ve played / play. Cyhra’s latest two albums for example.
I have two LTDs and they are great:
- th-cam.com/video/xfs1gpBwVM4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=qNT1KWWj2_CNb7dD
- th-cam.com/video/UzmSsB-uGoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6VGnVHXxGMiPs2PY
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@EugeValovirta230V If Cyhra needs a bass player, I'm available haha. I'm primarily a guitar player and I'm doing some research for buying a bass and getting the tones I want. I'll definitely be watching those links you shared.
Oh, I just noticed a Jerry Cantrell signature wah in your pedalboard, I have the same but I have never seen someone having it
Do you like Jerry Cantrell stuff or just find this wah good sounding?
Btw you make great videos and get awesome hard rock/ thrashy tones, greetings from Poland 🤘
Been a big AIC fan since Facelift but that’s obviously not a reason to buy a wah. I just like it. Thanks!
@@EugeValovirta230V oh yeah, Facelift is one of a kind with this bogner modded jcm800 tone 🤘🤘
@@EugeValovirta230V you should do a Jerry Cantrell tone tutorial!
since I use Plexi, I crank both volume and Drive on my SD-1 to max, tone at 3 o'clock to bring up those ear piercing upper mids
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Are you use 4 Ohm config or 16 Ohm config? If you use 16 ohm cab config have you try 2 speaker type a in series parallel with 2 speakers of type b ....
or 2 speakers .....off type a and b in series parallel with 2 speakers of type b and a in series ( left hi typ a right low type a and the other slots filled with b type speakers?
if you have a 16 ohm config and use 3 speaker of type a und 1 of type b the interact some kind of strange. Maybe you like the sound but have you try my options?
Have you tried the Lichtlaerm King In Yellow Euge?
Nope. They contacted me and were supposed to send it to me quite a while ago but I don’t know what happened 🤷♂️.
Will that SD-1 help get a Silver Jubilee to sound more metal?
Yes: th-cam.com/video/R0w02Z_XVNE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=I68ztt7yA3VWFo8R
what brand valves in the 5150, I assume you've experimented to change tightness bottom end and overall gain?
you wouldnt trust that peavey didn't just put cheap ones in like performance cars have terrible tires from factory.
It’s over 30 year old amp so not originals anymore 😎. JJs like on all my amps.
Do eq pedals work best in front or on effects loop?
Depends what you want to achieve and how you dial one. But the same principles applies I showed in this video.
So you rarely use the gain/drive of the amplifiers?
You didn’t watch the video I assume?
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Do you use any reverb or chorus on solos ect live?
Nope.
Wow, it really just comes down to one good sound and the guitarist :)
Yep
What's the first riff you played?
This: th-cam.com/video/GLD-Q_7La2U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BsQ-q1HMXOuLRyRm
Streaming / CD & Vinyl pre-order links in the description 👌.
So ESP used to copy Jackson head stocks?
Yeah! Those 80s ESPs are classsics 👌. And pretty hard to find nowadays. At least in good condition.
I just have a question.
WHO would put an od, ds in the FX loop? It just sounds awful.
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Some legendary tones have happened because people did the "wrong" thing :)
ex : HM2 tone
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I have a 5150 that’s been sitting in my basement for the last 20 years. This video makes me want to fire it up, It’s just so damn loud. Lol.
Do it. Loud is good 😎.
You know you dont want that guitar send it my way lol
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I havent syarted the video yet, but Euge....PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell people not to use an overdrive over a dead-clean amp. That is the WORST sound ever and it's always the blues and country guys doing that. You can hear the clean sound through the gain the pedal adds and it's an awful sound.
I do this and I have don't know what you're talking about. I'm using Revv pedals for my gain unto a clean Fender style preamp with a lot of headroom and it sounds great.
@@MrJingles021 no offense but you might need your ears checked if you don’t know what I’m talking about. But also, I’m talking about an overdrive, not a distortion-they’re two completely different types of pedals
I’ve done it many times with great results. Sometimes what might sound shitty alone can be just what was needed in the mix. So no, I’m not going to tell that but just use ears. It’s all about personal preferences and it’s impossible to argue with those.
@user-jq4fz6co8b maybe you're using bad overdrives? The Revv G2 is an overdrive and it sounds great. I've used all varieties of overdrives through a Fender style amp and they sound great. Have you seen any videos with Andy Timmons playing? He uses overdrives into a clean amp and it sounds great. Same with Andy Wood, and there's even a video with Paul Gilbert showing his pedalboard through a clean amp....it works fine.
I agree