I have the same stove and never had one issue with it. No loose bolts or tight damper but I did hear one other person say the damper got tight.I love my stove.
That's good to hear. Pomoly has advised me to loosen off the damper screw to allow more room for thermal expansion. I'm really hoping it helps! Thanks for watching.
Thanks for uploading this video, I hope you have solved the issues with your stove. A few months ago I bought the Dweller 2 stove, and I don't know if Pomoly has changed the materials used or what, but I haven't had the issued you presented. I bent the lever for the lower damper, because I noticed it was closer to the top than the bottom, and I had never had it stuck. Also, the door handle doesn't get stuck, to the point I can operate it bare hand. Additionally, I noticed my stove changed color evenly, like some light copper tone. I really like the stove, but I do understand that your experience was not the same, as I said before, I really hope you have solved the issues you had. All the best from Chile.
Unfortunately, the problems were never solved for me. I do really like the design and I am happy that others are having better luck than myself. I will be trying out a winnerwell woodlander this season, hopefully I have better luck! Thanks for watching and commenting! I always like to hear other people's thoughts and experiences with gear. Cheers!
@@tentingWT Hello, yeah the winnerwell woodlander is a very good stove, I was considering buying that one, but then I came across the Dweller 2, and bought the Dweller based on its design. It's a shame the issues weren't fixed, as I mentioned, I noticed the draft lever near the ash pan was closer to the top than to the bottom, and I used a bit of pressure with my hand, in order to leave it centered. That seems to have helped, and I can move it freely. I hope the Winnerwell performs without problems, as you said, you don't want to be out on a remote area during winter and having your stove dying on you. I hope everything's going well.
Update: I have sent a customer service request to Pomoly. I have listed my issues with the unit and provided a link to this video. Interestingly enough, this is the 2022 model. The 2023 model has some changes to the design. We will see what Pomoly has to say.
Good review been looking at this stove or the winner well woodlander large. Want to throw a good size tent up on my property while working on land. Be for cooking and camping out keeping dogs and I warm
If you can get your hands on one , japanese maker solotour makes a stainless stove that is almost identical ( large front loading window ) except that it disassembles flat and is about 1/4 the price , just sayin
Any experience with the gstove? I have a small and larger tents which can use stoves....I am more inclined to the gstove for the smaller tent and Caminus M for bigger tent. They both seem to be solid. All edges are fully welded, not spot welding and no bolts or rivets. I seriously doubt these stainless steel stoves can last a long time under these high temp especially the ones use rivets and screws.... They are ridiculously expensive. They are happy to use materials that degrade in few years and make us buy again.
I haven't used anything from gstove as of yet, but I have owned a few winnerwells that are also fantastic quality. Maybe next season I will pick one up! Fully welded is the only way to go for sure.
@@tentingWT I was contemplating for winnerwell, but kind of concern about the opening on the stove top which may leak smoke or CO into the tent... I don't put cookware directly on open flame as it will blacken the bottom....
Admittedly, if you don't have a clean burn going then the winnerwells do tend to let a bit of smoke through the plate. (I mean a super dirty burn) I've been using it for two years and I can count on one hand how many times this has happened. Not perfect, but not terrible either. The removable plate is handy to make toast on. That's all I've got lol
Hi, thx for not sucjin up to the manu to get free stuff! lol, have you seen anywhere polmolys recommended side , front back etc clearances to combustibles? does it have double walls? thanks
Hello! No it is not double walled. Although the top of the stove is made of thicker material to allow you to place a pot on. The outside of the stove will get absolutely raging hot. Hot enough to ignite a small branch if you held it against the stove. As for clearances, that's a fantastic question I had never considered. I always go with the common sense method lol. I can't find that information anywhere for you, but a very valid question indeed. Myself, I always try to allow at least 24" of clearance all the way around any woodstove I use and more in the front with the Pomoly because the glass throws so much heat. If you were thinking of a stove for a small cabin, building code is anywhere from 34" to 48". I will perhaps email pomoly and find out. It's possible they have that information somewhere and both of us just overlooked it lol. Thanks for watching!
@@tentingWT Résidential woodstoves have BTU ratings, they are rated and approved by UL. These stoves for camping and or van life...are relatively new as are the applications they are used in. So I guess it's kind of the far west...no regulations, no ratings, etc etc...till somebody dies or something and a company gets sued...then all kinds of disclaimers pop up everywhere... :-)))
Pomoly should have taken the expansion and other issues during use into account while designing and testing. Feels like a backyard build with a prime time price tag. Disappointing.
I totally agree. Although I will still use it this season before I review it, I don't have high hopes. I watched other videos before purchasing and nobody had mentioned these issues. If they had I may have just purchased a larger winnerwell nomad view since the small version has been such a great stove. Thank you for watching and commenting. Cheers!
I was going to do one more video this winter as a follow up, but I'll spoil it for you! Unfortunately, the dampener and handle constantly need adjusting. It's just a problem with the expansion of the stove, there is no permanent fix. On a positive note, I have not had to adjust any other bolt on the unit (it was just a fluke that it fell apart during shipping. It must have been a Friday stove lol) Pomoly was prompt with their replies and they have fantastic customer service but other than advice and suggestions, there was nothing they could do for me. I have a love hate with this stove. It burns really well and is absolutely gorgeous to look at, but I am tired of having to adjust it during and after every night out. It is up to the user to decide if it's worth it to them. For me, I will sell it and try a newer model this season to see if there are any design improvements. Thanks for messaging!
@@tentingWT That's a shame. Thanks for documenting it. It sounds like all the first gen dwellers don't have problems? I wonder what they changed for 2.0 and 3.0 Amazon US has them for USD $199. Mine comes in a week. Fingers crossed I guess?
@@daveybphotography from all the feedback I've had from other users, I think you'll be okay. I've just gotten myself a quirky stove. There is a lot to like about the stove itself. Let me know how it works out for you!
I was hoping to exchange it. Pomoly wants me to go out and test it again with some tweaks. If that doesn't work, then I'm sure I could convince them to exchange.
I can deal with the bulkiness, as i usually haul everything with a pulk sled. But everything else is a huge red flag. I will try Pomolys solutions (tighten the handle, loosen the damper) before I completely write it off. But it's not going to work, and 600 is way too much.
The Dweller isn’t designed to be a collapsible stove, they have others for that purpose. This is for car camping or putting inside a truck camper or pulling on a sled. Not discounting the issues you’re having, just solely speaking of the design.
@brianbailey2422 Totally correct. Like I said, I use a sled. My other stove is also not collapsible. I'm not really sure if I'd ever truly trust a collapsible stove lol
Pomoly's current stance is that someone from production has tightened the damper screw to tight. They want me to tighten the handle and loosen the damper before I test it again. I will humor them but as you say, it's probably just bad engineering.
I have the same stove and never had one issue with it. No loose bolts or tight damper but I did hear one other person say the damper got tight.I love my stove.
That's good to hear. Pomoly has advised me to loosen off the damper screw to allow more room for thermal expansion. I'm really hoping it helps!
Thanks for watching.
Best review I have found very much in detail thanks for all the angle and actions
Thank you so much my friend, I appreciate it 🙏
Thanks for uploading this video, I hope you have solved the issues with your stove. A few months ago I bought the Dweller 2 stove, and I don't know if Pomoly has changed the materials used or what, but I haven't had the issued you presented. I bent the lever for the lower damper, because I noticed it was closer to the top than the bottom, and I had never had it stuck. Also, the door handle doesn't get stuck, to the point I can operate it bare hand.
Additionally, I noticed my stove changed color evenly, like some light copper tone.
I really like the stove, but I do understand that your experience was not the same, as I said before, I really hope you have solved the issues you had.
All the best from Chile.
Unfortunately, the problems were never solved for me. I do really like the design and I am happy that others are having better luck than myself. I will be trying out a winnerwell woodlander this season, hopefully I have better luck!
Thanks for watching and commenting! I always like to hear other people's thoughts and experiences with gear.
Cheers!
@@tentingWT Hello, yeah the winnerwell woodlander is a very good stove, I was considering buying that one, but then I came across the Dweller 2, and bought the Dweller based on its design. It's a shame the issues weren't fixed, as I mentioned, I noticed the draft lever near the ash pan was closer to the top than to the bottom, and I used a bit of pressure with my hand, in order to leave it centered. That seems to have helped, and I can move it freely.
I hope the Winnerwell performs without problems, as you said, you don't want to be out on a remote area during winter and having your stove dying on you.
I hope everything's going well.
Update:
I have sent a customer service request to Pomoly. I have listed my issues with the unit and provided a link to this video. Interestingly enough, this is the 2022 model. The 2023 model has some changes to the design. We will see what Pomoly has to say.
Good review been looking at this stove or the winner well woodlander large. Want to throw a good size tent up on my property while working on land. Be for cooking and camping out keeping dogs and I warm
I really can't fault the winnerwell nomad in any area. It's a fantastic stove. I would imagine their other line-ups are just as well built.
If you can get your hands on one , japanese maker solotour makes a stainless stove that is almost identical ( large front loading window ) except that it disassembles flat and is about 1/4 the price , just sayin
I'll keep my eyes open for sure. I'll be in the market for a few new stoves for next season.
Any experience with the gstove? I have a small and larger tents which can use stoves....I am more inclined to the gstove for the smaller tent and Caminus M for bigger tent. They both seem to be solid. All edges are fully welded, not spot welding and no bolts or rivets. I seriously doubt these stainless steel stoves can last a long time under these high temp especially the ones use rivets and screws....
They are ridiculously expensive. They are happy to use materials that degrade in few years and make us buy again.
I haven't used anything from gstove as of yet, but I have owned a few winnerwells that are also fantastic quality. Maybe next season I will pick one up!
Fully welded is the only way to go for sure.
@@tentingWT I was contemplating for winnerwell, but kind of concern about the opening on the stove top which may leak smoke or CO into the tent... I don't put cookware directly on open flame as it will blacken the bottom....
Admittedly, if you don't have a clean burn going then the winnerwells do tend to let a bit of smoke through the plate. (I mean a super dirty burn)
I've been using it for two years and I can count on one hand how many times this has happened.
Not perfect, but not terrible either. The removable plate is handy to make toast on. That's all I've got lol
Good information thanks
No problems. Thanks for watching!
Hi, thx for not sucjin up to the manu to get free stuff! lol, have you seen anywhere polmolys recommended side , front back etc clearances to combustibles? does it have double walls? thanks
Hello!
No it is not double walled. Although the top of the stove is made of thicker material to allow you to place a pot on. The outside of the stove will get absolutely raging hot. Hot enough to ignite a small branch if you held it against the stove.
As for clearances, that's a fantastic question I had never considered. I always go with the common sense method lol. I can't find that information anywhere for you, but a very valid question indeed.
Myself, I always try to allow at least 24" of clearance all the way around any woodstove I use and more in the front with the Pomoly because the glass throws so much heat. If you were thinking of a stove for a small cabin, building code is anywhere from 34" to 48".
I will perhaps email pomoly and find out. It's possible they have that information somewhere and both of us just overlooked it lol.
Thanks for watching!
@@tentingWT
Résidential woodstoves have BTU ratings, they are rated and approved by UL. These stoves for camping and or van life...are relatively new as are the applications they are used in. So I guess it's kind of the far west...no regulations, no ratings, etc etc...till somebody dies or something and a company gets sued...then all kinds of disclaimers pop up everywhere... :-)))
Dome x6 pro leaking, now stoves falling apart, What's next from pomoly?
Well that's terrible news. I was looking at the x6 for this season. Perhaps I'll look at something else lol
@@tentingWTmy x4 pro has not leaked and have tested the snot out of it. Very nice tent
Pomoly should have taken the expansion and other issues during use into account while designing and testing. Feels like a backyard build with a prime time price tag. Disappointing.
I totally agree. Although I will still use it this season before I review it, I don't have high hopes. I watched other videos before purchasing and nobody had mentioned these issues. If they had I may have just purchased a larger winnerwell nomad view since the small version has been such a great stove.
Thank you for watching and commenting. Cheers!
What is dweller version t1?
The stove in this video is the Dweller. It's made from stainless steel.
The Dweller Ti is made from titanium instead. Making it much lighter.
@@tentingWT Thask a lot your reply. Your means it was same size right?
@user-ft3rf8ur6q
Yup. They are both the same size.
There are other models, like the Dweller 2.0 and the Dweller max. Same design but larger size.
8 months later, any update?
I was going to do one more video this winter as a follow up, but I'll spoil it for you!
Unfortunately, the dampener and handle constantly need adjusting. It's just a problem with the expansion of the stove, there is no permanent fix. On a positive note, I have not had to adjust any other bolt on the unit (it was just a fluke that it fell apart during shipping. It must have been a Friday stove lol)
Pomoly was prompt with their replies and they have fantastic customer service but other than advice and suggestions, there was nothing they could do for me.
I have a love hate with this stove. It burns really well and is absolutely gorgeous to look at, but I am tired of having to adjust it during and after every night out.
It is up to the user to decide if it's worth it to them. For me, I will sell it and try a newer model this season to see if there are any design improvements.
Thanks for messaging!
@@tentingWT That's a shame. Thanks for documenting it. It sounds like all the first gen dwellers don't have problems?
I wonder what they changed for 2.0 and 3.0
Amazon US has them for USD $199. Mine comes in a week. Fingers crossed I guess?
@@daveybphotography from all the feedback I've had from other users, I think you'll be okay. I've just gotten myself a quirky stove. There is a lot to like about the stove itself.
Let me know how it works out for you!
@@daveybphotographyordered one to. Wanted stackable pipes so for price seemed worth it
I'd love to get your feedback when you have a chance to test it out. I'll be getting a winnerwell woodlander for this upcoming season. Can't wait!
can you return it to get a refund or exchange for one that is not defective?
I was hoping to exchange it. Pomoly wants me to go out and test it again with some tweaks. If that doesn't work, then I'm sure I could convince them to exchange.
And its not totally collapsible either. Which makes it bulky and hard to move around. No. Not at that price.
I can deal with the bulkiness, as i usually haul everything with a pulk sled. But everything else is a huge red flag. I will try Pomolys solutions (tighten the handle, loosen the damper) before I completely write it off. But it's not going to work, and 600 is way too much.
The Dweller isn’t designed to be a collapsible stove, they have others for that purpose. This is for car camping or putting inside a truck camper or pulling on a sled. Not discounting the issues you’re having, just solely speaking of the design.
@brianbailey2422
Totally correct. Like I said, I use a sled. My other stove is also not collapsible. I'm not really sure if I'd ever truly trust a collapsible stove lol
Looks like a $600 dollar fuck deal to me.
You would know...
Sloppy engineering. Not ready for prime time. All of these issues should have been dealt with when working out the prototypes.
Pomoly's current stance is that someone from production has tightened the damper screw to tight. They want me to tighten the handle and loosen the damper before I test it again.
I will humor them but as you say, it's probably just bad engineering.