And while we're at it, make it adjust action and truss rod as well. And create an exchange platform where you can download your favorite artists' setups. ;)
I think that everyone should learn to tune their guitar manually but on stage this would be great so that you could use one guitar if you needed alternate tunings
Seems kinda strange that in this day and age they couldn't have put a little LCD screen on it so you don't have to memorize color banks and what tuning is where.
I think he means more like instead of remembering colours you could scroll down to tuning names like "drop D" or "Eb" or "DADGAD" and so on. A screen would have made it much better and in this day and age not only is it surprising that it doesnt have a screen but its also surprising that theres not some app for a bloody apple product so that you can tune your guitar via wifi while you take a dump.
an lcd screen would be a nightmare because it would cut the battery life, increase the cost and weight and be less visual from a glance when you're performing. Going by 6 horizontal letters and colours, it's much easier use.
@@Hello_there_obi Lcd would not be on constantly. They have a better version called powertune that does this. It lasts a year on average for most. It connects to phone as well so you can use the app to quickly select tunings as well so it's easier to see several tunings all at once on your library instead of scroll through or create presets and remember the order you put them at
Actually you can buy one of these for your guitar, it is retrofit. The company Tronical makes these with the tuners already attached to it, whether your guitar has a six-inline style, like a strat, or 3 on each side, like a Les Paul, you can buy these to fit the guitar you already have.
I see this as a fine educational aid. Tunings you might not be inclined to take time to tune are available to you now in a quick fashion. Consider a good set of tuners can run $70, it's not that expensive in comparison.
So cool. One of the reasons I don't experiment with other tunings is because it's such a pain in the ass. This would really move my guitar journey along. I will get this on an SG.
Xenovz It may have a lot to do with the fact that you are likely a millennial, and as such you have been indoctrinated by pre teen and teen TV programming, etc. to think that your elders are just goofy fuckwits who know nothing by comparison to your own generation and are merely to be tolerated for as long as they remain around, while you defer to pop culture, the scientific community and government for any answers that you cannot pull out of your own ass.
Good, detailed review. I was in the market for a les paul, and this very clearly demonstrated how much quicker, easier and quieter this technology has beco e since 2008, as well as being less invasive to the instrument. Thanks!
I am the best guitarist in the world but I am also the worst tuner in the world. So I love the auto tuner. It's just new technology like Marshall amps and pedals once were new technology. There is a Jimi Hendrix TV show here on TH-cam in which his guitar is out of tune most of the time, he was having a bad day or his monitors weren't ok and I'm sure he would have been happy with the auto-tuner that day. Do I have the courage to compare myself to Jimi Hendrix? Yes, because as I already said, I'm the best guitarist in the world. And my secret is: always remain modest. That will get you anywhere.
Rieni Otten Didn't mean anything by it. It was just that first you said that you're the best guitarist in the world, then you talked about a Jimi Hendrix show, then you compared yourself to him and in the end say that we should be modest. Just got me kinda confused.
Kai Burns Which is exactly why I don't understand anything. It's like those alcohol commercials that advertise drinking all the time and then tell you to drink responsibly.
They do retail these for retrofitting now, in case anyone is interested. TronicalTune, the company that makes them for Gibson sells them on their website for a good range of guitar models.
I'm with you 100% on this one Craig, it is going to do to guitar playing what auto-tune has done to vocalists. I see so many kids these days that have no idea how to tune by ear (admittedly when i'm really tired I'm one of them). Also, for a fraction of the cost of a new gibson with min-etuners you can buy a couple of good quality epi's that you can dedicate to your own choice of tuning.
I just wondered... when I make a bad custom tuning, lets say make the high e string go up further to maybe a higher B, so the string would snap normally, will it stop before it bursts or will It do my will? I mean this thing cannot, know what gauge you are having on the guitar. Some could handly more string tension than others. Just out of curiosity.
I have been very interested in the min-Etune and how it actually operated/performed. I like the idea of being able to easily and quickly retune, and with 6 user programmable tunings on top of all the preprogrammed. I spent my early years as a student tuning a guitar with just a 440 fork because my instructor demanded it. And of course now a chromatic. I know how to tune but am more interested in playing than retuning. I will happily concede the mundane task of retuning to a robot.
A friend of mine returned an SG that had one of these. It worked most of the time, but sometimes it would mistake the VIIth fret A string harmonic for a high E string, and it would completely unwind the high E. Cool idea, but it's simply not reliable enough to use professionally. If you need a guitar in E standard, and another in open G, and yet another in DADGAD, the most reliable solution is still just to bring 3 different guitars. It's just one more thing that can potentially go wrong. I can see these being a liability that lowers the resale value of the guitar they're attached to. In fact, my friend got his SG on a blow-out clearance deal, so it's already happening... Makes me wonder how hard it would be to retrofit standard tuners to a guitar that originally came with Min-Etuners.
He must have left it permanently switched on . Surely a dumb move with any battery-powered device . Just briefly check between songs , then turn it off .
The thing that is missing is a wireless foot controller for it. Say you want to change tunings during a live set. you just hit a button with your foot, a small screen or led informs you that youre all set. You could even do it amids a song
Howabouthetruth: Wow...such anger!! Obviously you are unable to grasp the concept of why people, even those who know how to tune a guitar, would want one of these. If you're just playing to your cat in your parent's basement...yeah, you don't need one. But, for those of us who gig and needed 4 different tunings in one set, this saves a lot of time.
I see your point, but as some one who dose gig and use a number of different tunings I have guitars setup for these (also spent years working as a back line/ guitar tech). No I am not rich but just collected a fair number of the years. Fact is if you are using a hard tail then dropping to a drop D or DADGBD is quick enough. If you use open G (I do on and off) then I have a Telecaster setup for it. Radical tunings from a guitar techs point of view should be setup for a specific guitar to avoid performance issues... But hey every one has their own way of doing things and this is just my opinion. Peace and keep rocking.
Ken H I have to disagree with you; by the time you have fiddled with the device to find the relative tuning you could have retuned the guitar twice. Its just lazy musicianship
stonehartfloydfan can see your point but some are just starting and don't have mutiple guitars, so this is a rather good item for those who cant aford it yet or someone who has very lil time to themselve s to actually waste some of it on tunning rather than playing.
Great demo guys! Although I have to say, at first glance, the ability to have all these open tunings seems like a good thing, but DISCOVERING an open tuning is an important moment for so many reasons. Besides, anyone who has any real experience with open tunings on electric guitars understands that just because the open strings ring out in tune, it doesn't mean it will play in tune. You have to tune open tunings for the intonation of that particular guitar.
ahh can you imagine how amazing this technology would be on violins and pianos!!! Would be extremely difficult to make I'm sure, but life would be so much easier.
2021, I guess everyone has these on their Guitars now? I can see the point in some situations, but tbh, if using open G, I tend to keep a Guitar in that tuning, and drop D is no big deal to change, clever though!
I agree. If they start fitting these in every guitar, people won't use their ears any longer at all. Nowadays so many people rely on tabs and need tuner to tune their guitar. There's nothing bad with either tabs or guitar tuners but if you can't play or tune by ear, that's a problem. When used properly, I think it's a good thing. And by using properly I mean if you are playing a gig, you don't need to worry about being out of tune. But selling these to beginners is pretty "dangerous".
Note now, that you CAN retrofit this onto guitars, any guitars. I have a set on my 1986 Fender Contemporary Stratocaster (version C1), and on my 2000 Taylor 414 (version H). They're great.
Playing an instrument is about playing music and not about playing random fingerings, and I think the problem with guitar is that it's too "visual" instrument - people rely on scale shapes and tabs rather than sounds. You need to be able to listen to how your playing sounds like. And tuning by ear is one of the first thing people should learn when they start playing the guitar.
Yeah, I understand, but IMO guitar is about playing music and if you play music, you also need to think "in music" (ie hear if what you play sounds right or wrong). If you can't tell if what you play sounds good, you really can't improve. Music is about sound and I think people want to play the guitar because they like its sound. But yeah, I don't know if everybody thinks like I do. But music is about sound and with guitar you play music. So guitar is about sound. :)
you can actually buy the system at guitar center for pretty much any guitar brand so you can actually retrofit it. just make sure that it is for your specific model before buying.
But I know people who would like to play by ear but they just can't because somebody has always tuned their guitar for them and they have only learned everything with tabs. As I said, these tuners are handy if you want to change your tuning fast and you don't need to worry about being out of tune when you are performing on stage. But many times beginners want to choose the easy way to do things that many times can harm their progress later. Using your ears is important because music is sound.
It's all about practicality. I've had to use 5 different tunings on a show. I used 3 guitars to make it happen, and even then had to waste time changing tunings. If I had one of these, I would not need to change guitars or lose time. Definitely want one.
Very good to see a real demo of this. One mistake, though, you CAN buy this as a standalone. They have templates on their website for Gibson and Fender headstocks. It seems that when America fails at something, they call Germany to fix it! (NASA in the 1960s?).
Would switching between tunings drastically not muck up the tension of the neck? Also, if you go from standard E to drop C, the surely you'd want different gague strings to support the different tunings? I think the point about it being good for people who aren't good at tuning isn't great because if they get this, they won't learn and ill be stuck when they actually have to do it on a traditional guitar. Apart from that I think it's an awesome concept and works really well.
I'd much rather rely on locking tuners, a great tuner, and a quick hand than this. Those three things have served me well in the past and still do to this day. That being said, this thing saved my ass on stage twice! I had to tune to e flat and open G and had to almost immediately each time. So I'll definitely give it that. I'd recommend this for those kinds of situations. Also, I have a buddy who was on stage (playing in standard) and his high E AND B string broke back to back...crazy shit. He grabbed a Les Paul that belonged to the other guitar player in his band, And got to E standard from D standard in the blink of an eye. So if tuning on the fly (manually) is a scary thought for you, TOTALLY go for this. Like Captain and Chappers said and proved, it works. Don't let this be an opportunity for you to become lazy though, Always tune your guitar or guitars by yourself as much as possible, And train your ear. You'll thank yourself in the long run.
Howdy Mark, I also ordered one from Tronical. They have a posting on the order screen that says there will be a three week delay between payment and shipping. I was ready to open a dispute too but fired off an angry email to Tronical. They told me my tuner would ship last Friday. Their site indicates my order is still 'Awaiting Fullfilment' meaning they don't have inventory to ship yet. I'd be pissed off but I really want the tuner.
Looks very handy to me, playing in a cover rock band using at least 3 different tunings throughout the sets. Saves time it seems and even nice to control your regular tuning after a couple songs. Nothing to do with knowing how to tune your guitar but more ease of time and reduce the tuning during playing a whole night. (especially between an open G and a drop D tuning. where I currently am using different guitars for)
Put one on a 2012 les paul studio....love it. Couldn't get it quite in perfect tune, compared against the expensive studio strobe tuner, but then I actually bothered to read the manual. Slightly adjusted the sensitivity, and since then the tunings are spot on. The beauty is having the ability to quickly change tunings live without standing on stage and fumbling around. Not usually a big fan of these "innovations" but this one is a keeper. I predict you will be seeing these on many other high end guitars (then cheaper models as prices go down on the units) such as Fender, PRS, etc.
And you sir just answered my complaint... thanks! I was going to say what a load, but a retro fit kit would help get people involved with the hardware. Personally, I think it's neat and gigging with a tuner like that would be nice. Still, I would prefer a regular headstock for a LP Studio etc. LP's not that cheap... How many tunings before the motor brushes wear out & when a kid puts acoustic strings on the tuners because he didn't know? What would happen then...
It's actually available by itself,not sold by Gibson but Tronical, the brand that builds it for Gibson ! I found them on Thomann but TH-cam won't let me put the URL link here...
Sadly, it can't be sold as a stand alone product. The guitar has to have wire running down through the inside of the neck and connect to the internal wiring of the guitar itself. So while it would be VERY cool to be able to buy, slap onto a guitar, and start using it straight away, it can't do that for a while.
It's a shame they can't be retro-fit to your existing LP's. I certainly would buy them for mine and Gibson would sell a ton of these. I mean it would mean the difference between bringing 4 or 5 guitars to the gig in different tunings versus 1 main and 1 backup.
this is insanely innovative and reliable. people who hate on it are just little cry babies. I can tune guitar just fine, but I play many different things, in many different tunings, and tuning can be ANNOYING. I can't wait to get one.
This is nice but there's more to tuning the guitar than what is shown here. How quickly it it will fuck up intonation of the guitar when it has some weird tuning?
i bought a futura this week, and since i'm in a band that gigs alot, i cover a lot of songs, and i've always left the stones material out, cos i couldn't get the room to bring another guitar in g tuning, so this allows me to open the sets up to anything not cos i'm lazy when it comes to tuning, cos it creates flow as the night goes on, and face it, a good rock show depends on how well you build your sets..
Works great until you try to change strings. Sometimes the gears strip during wind up. My SG is still in the shop getting repaired. Can't wait to get it back though.
Probably. At the end of the video when he said you HAVE to buy a new Gibson that comes with it, that's actually false. If you visit the tronical components website you can buy the tuning system for pretty much any model Gibson or Fender.
If i remember right, Gibson had made 'robot' guitar around 2006 or 2007 i guess... same principle.... Just that the Tuner was on the tone/volume controls.
Ok I was against this at first, but the fact you can set your own tuning is fucking kick ass and a major plus for playing live shows and not have to alternate tuning for 2 minutes with a crowd waiting on you.
The sounds like for under £1000 is cool but would it be possible to do a few sounds like high end stuff? Like if money wasn't a object and you wanted to get the perfect set up to play Hendrix, Satriani, Gilmour, zakk wylde, Dimebag, Tommy Morello etc
I think this would be really useful for tuning in between songs. Mute the guitar, turn it on, strum, done. Cool idea. Wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.
Imagine that you're a guitar player who has to play a gig and you have songs with diverse tuining: standard, drop D, DADGAD, etc. And you only have one guitar and you don't want to lose time tuning your guitar in the middle of the stage. Just because you don't have the problem it doesn't mean that it's not exist. I like to play songs with a lot of different tunings and this would be very useful to me.
I have this same guitar with the min-e-tune and I love it. But beware, if you want to use it live on stage and you need to switch between tunings, you have to be wary of who you are playing with. If your bassist, or the other guitarist can't stop noodling between songs, you are not going to get it to tune properly. The noise that they create will cause your guitar to vibrate just enough to throw it off and it will start to cry.
I'm confused...I thought standard tuning is 4ths. E to A is a 4th, A to D is a 4th, etc. Unless the B is tuned to C, maybe? And then the E would be F. Yeah, I guess that would be a way to show a user tuning.
I may be wrong but isn't E to A 3 whole steps E...F,G,A 3 steps up not four so it'd be in 3rds standard tuning but I may be wrong still a little new at this
E to A is 2 1/2 steps. E to F# is one whole step, F# to G# another, and then G# to A is a 1/2 step. A 3rd is a 1 11/2 steps, ie. E to G# (E to F# to G). A 4th is the 4th note of the scale, or 2 1/2 steps. A major scale follows a pattern of 11 1/2 111 1/2. And a whole step is 2 half-steps (or 2 frets on a guitar). So a guitar is tuned to 4ths, until you get to the B string, which is a 3rd, and then B to E is a 4th again. My question is whether they meant the whole thing is tuned to 4ths, which would be EADGCF. I hope this helps.
What is it with some people? All the negative comments whilst completely missing the point! I play in a band with a set that requires me to use 4 to 5 different tunings for every gig and that entails having the minimum of 3 (usually 4 ) guitars to hand each time we play. Granted I can probably go from standard tuning to open G or double dropped D and back again in the same kind of time this unit takes but certainly not open E or tuned down a full tone. To avoid too many guitar changes we tend to put all our open E songs together and likewise all our open G songs and so on and that gets boring. Equipped with this system it takes all the hassle and worry away and lets me get on with it. Whats the problem with that?
Noticed some comments like if you're just playing at home to your cat etc, you don't need this, that's exactly why I like this. Im still learning but even when I do learn to play I'll just be playing to myself, or next doors dog, I can't be arsed wasting time tuning in so doing it quick with this would be great.
NOW if only I could ATTACH one of those things to the MICROPHONE- WHILE I AM SINGING.!!!!
They have something for it. It's called autotune :p
or you learn to do it with your voice
Randy Lott Hahah, how does it make you go down in pitch?
+Dylan Lopez +Randy Lott Crocodile clip on left ball crocodile clip on your right nipple wired up to the tuning mechanism pitch perfect
+041c0unt3rPart I KNEW IT !!!!...
they need to invent a device that goes on the bridge that will allow it to intonate itself.
Yes!!
my god would my problems be solved!
What would take hours, in seconds!
it takes about 1 or 2 minutes per string
And while we're at it, make it adjust action and truss rod as well. And create an exchange platform where you can download your favorite artists' setups. ;)
I think that everyone should learn to tune their guitar manually but on stage this would be great so that you could use one guitar if you needed alternate tunings
FrStProductions obviously if someone doesnt have the ability to tune a guitar, its likely that they also dont have the skill to play live
^not disagreeing with u, just adding on
It's cheaper than having a dozen Gibsons at different tunings...
Especially when you may need a setup for lower tunings
*gibbons
Seems kinda strange that in this day and age they couldn't have put a little LCD screen on it so you don't have to memorize color banks and what tuning is where.
Yeah...it's so much easier to remember alternate tunings...
I think he means more like instead of remembering colours you could scroll down to tuning names like "drop D" or "Eb" or "DADGAD" and so on.
A screen would have made it much better and in this day and age not only is it surprising that it doesnt have a screen but its also surprising that theres not some app for a bloody apple product so that you can tune your guitar via wifi while you take a dump.
an lcd screen would be a nightmare because it would cut the battery life, increase the cost and weight and be less visual from a glance when you're performing. Going by 6 horizontal letters and colours, it's much easier use.
@@Hello_there_obi
Lcd would not be on constantly. They have a better version called powertune that does this. It lasts a year on average for most. It connects to phone as well so you can use the app to quickly select tunings as well so it's easier to see several tunings all at once on your library instead of scroll through or create presets and remember the order you put them at
Tuning? What the heck is that, think I'll ask my roadie.
But I still want to replace the tunners
Actually you can buy one of these for your guitar, it is retrofit. The company Tronical makes these with the tuners already attached to it, whether your guitar has a six-inline style, like a strat, or 3 on each side, like a Les Paul, you can buy these to fit the guitar you already have.
I see this as a fine educational aid. Tunings you might not be inclined to take time to tune are available to you now in a quick fashion. Consider a good set of tuners can run $70, it's not that expensive in comparison.
hadnt considered that. Good point!
Would it hurt to plug into an amp to hear it better?
So cool. One of the reasons I don't experiment with other tunings is because it's such a pain in the ass. This would really move my guitar journey along. I will get this on an SG.
I like it .... don't know why others are saying it is bad
Xenovz It may have a lot to do with the fact that you are likely a millennial, and as such you have been indoctrinated by pre teen and teen TV programming, etc. to think that your elders are just goofy fuckwits who know nothing by comparison to your own generation and are merely to be tolerated for as long as they remain around, while you defer to pop culture, the scientific community and government for any answers that you cannot pull out of your own ass.
Tsadi9Mem9Khet9 projecting much?
Big words from a big man, right there.
Wil Grundon
Yes, a bigger man than you could ever imagine, in fact.
ahh, now I get it.... You're a crazy person. God luck with that, dude.
Wow. The contrast to current AndertonsTV videos is staggering. It's like going back to the first season of peep show.
Now I need one for my 12 string.
Yo you are on to something
I tried one today. It was amazing to see the system in action. It worked well and seemed like an incredible invention.
Good, detailed review. I was in the market for a les paul, and this very clearly demonstrated how much quicker, easier and quieter this technology has beco e since 2008, as well as being less invasive to the instrument. Thanks!
I am the best guitarist in the world but I am also the worst tuner in the world. So I love the auto tuner. It's just new technology like Marshall amps and pedals once were new technology. There is a Jimi Hendrix TV show here on TH-cam in which his guitar is out of tune most of the time, he was having a bad day or his monitors weren't ok and I'm sure he would have been happy with the auto-tuner that day. Do I have the courage to compare myself to Jimi Hendrix? Yes, because as I already said, I'm the best guitarist in the world. And my secret is: always remain modest. That will get you anywhere.
I just liked my own response and I'm gonna like this one too.
To be quite honest I don't understand shit in your comment.
Rieni Otten Didn't mean anything by it. It was just that first you said that you're the best guitarist in the world, then you talked about a Jimi Hendrix show, then you compared yourself to him and in the end say that we should be modest. Just got me kinda confused.
Someguy528
I guess you're German or American. They have always been infamous for their lack of sense of humor. Brits usually do get it.
Kai Burns Which is exactly why I don't understand anything. It's like those alcohol commercials that advertise drinking all the time and then tell you to drink responsibly.
They do retail these for retrofitting now, in case anyone is interested. TronicalTune, the company that makes them for Gibson sells them on their website for a good range of guitar models.
I'm with you 100% on this one Craig, it is going to do to guitar playing what auto-tune has done to vocalists. I see so many kids these days that have no idea how to tune by ear (admittedly when i'm really tired I'm one of them). Also, for a fraction of the cost of a new gibson with min-etuners you can buy a couple of good quality epi's that you can dedicate to your own choice of tuning.
Does it tune to FAGDAD?
you can create your own "presets" ;)
Jimmy87268 I afraid I will snap my string while autotunning it
Floydandsome I AFRAID TOO !
its like F%ck that XD
I just wondered... when I make a bad custom tuning, lets say make the high e string go up further to maybe a higher B, so the string would snap normally, will it stop before it bursts or will It do my will? I mean this thing cannot, know what gauge you are having on the guitar. Some could handly more string tension than others. Just out of curiosity.
I had no idea this existed. What a time saver. One strum and you're done! On stage or about to record a take, very useful.
Cheers for the demo :)
I have been very interested in the min-Etune and how it actually operated/performed. I like the idea of being able to easily and quickly retune, and with 6 user programmable tunings on top of all the preprogrammed. I spent my early years as a student tuning a guitar with just a 440 fork because my instructor demanded it. And of course now a chromatic. I know how to tune but am more interested in playing than retuning. I will happily concede the mundane task of retuning to a robot.
A friend of mine returned an SG that had one of these. It worked most of the time, but sometimes it would mistake the VIIth fret A string harmonic for a high E string, and it would completely unwind the high E. Cool idea, but it's simply not reliable enough to use professionally. If you need a guitar in E standard, and another in open G, and yet another in DADGAD, the most reliable solution is still just to bring 3 different guitars. It's just one more thing that can potentially go wrong. I can see these being a liability that lowers the resale value of the guitar they're attached to. In fact, my friend got his SG on a blow-out clearance deal, so it's already happening... Makes me wonder how hard it would be to retrofit standard tuners to a guitar that originally came with Min-Etuners.
He must have left it permanently switched on . Surely a dumb move with any battery-powered device . Just briefly check between songs , then turn it off .
The thing that is missing is a wireless foot controller for it. Say you want to change tunings during a live set. you just hit a button with your foot, a small screen or led informs you that youre all set. You could even do it amids a song
Saw this in the Andertons foyer area a while back. Also saw Bea standing next to the TV.
I want it to tune everything in E Sharp.
And if it calls E Sharp anything else, that is unacceptable.
As someone who constantly changes tunings, this is very practical.
Howabouthetruth:
Wow...such anger!! Obviously you are unable to grasp the concept of why people, even those who know how to tune a guitar, would want one of these.
If you're just playing to your cat in your parent's basement...yeah, you don't need one. But, for those of us who gig and needed 4 different tunings in one set, this saves a lot of time.
I see your point, but as some one who dose gig and use a number of different tunings I have guitars setup for these (also spent years working as a back line/ guitar tech). No I am not rich but just collected a fair number of the years. Fact is if you are using a hard tail then dropping to a drop D or DADGBD is quick enough. If you use open G (I do on and off) then I have a Telecaster setup for it. Radical tunings from a guitar techs point of view should be setup for a specific guitar to avoid performance issues... But hey every one has their own way of doing things and this is just my opinion. Peace and keep rocking.
Ken H I have to disagree with you; by the time you have fiddled with the device to find the relative tuning you could have retuned the guitar twice. Its just lazy musicianship
Dann Barr Please post a video of you doing that.
stonehartfloydfan can see your point but some are just starting and don't have mutiple guitars, so this is a rather good item for those who cant aford it yet or someone who has very lil time to themselve s to actually waste some of it on tunning rather than playing.
ManiacalLaughter21
fair enough point.
I love how people have a problem with these. People will bitch about anything!
Great demo guys! Although I have to say, at first glance, the ability to have all these open tunings seems like a good thing, but DISCOVERING an open tuning is an important moment for so many reasons. Besides, anyone who has any real experience with open tunings on electric guitars understands that just because the open strings ring out in tune, it doesn't mean it will play in tune. You have to tune open tunings for the intonation of that particular guitar.
ahh can you imagine how amazing this technology would be on violins and pianos!!! Would be extremely difficult to make I'm sure, but life would be so much easier.
and so many pianotuners would be homeless...
2021, I guess everyone has these on their Guitars now? I can see the point in some situations, but tbh, if using open G, I tend to keep a Guitar in that tuning, and drop D is no big deal to change, clever though!
I agree. If they start fitting these in every guitar, people won't use their ears any longer at all. Nowadays so many people rely on tabs and need tuner to tune their guitar. There's nothing bad with either tabs or guitar tuners but if you can't play or tune by ear, that's a problem.
When used properly, I think it's a good thing. And by using properly I mean if you are playing a gig, you don't need to worry about being out of tune. But selling these to beginners is pretty "dangerous".
yup!
Note now, that you CAN retrofit this onto guitars, any guitars. I have a set on my 1986 Fender Contemporary Stratocaster (version C1), and on my 2000 Taylor 414 (version H). They're great.
Playing an instrument is about playing music and not about playing random fingerings, and I think the problem with guitar is that it's too "visual" instrument - people rely on scale shapes and tabs rather than sounds. You need to be able to listen to how your playing sounds like. And tuning by ear is one of the first thing people should learn when they start playing the guitar.
You CAN retro fit as Gibson have used the Tronical Technologies "TronicalTune". You can also get a version for a Fender headstock. Not cheap though.
Yeah, I understand, but IMO guitar is about playing music and if you play music, you also need to think "in music" (ie hear if what you play sounds right or wrong). If you can't tell if what you play sounds good, you really can't improve. Music is about sound and I think people want to play the guitar because they like its sound. But yeah, I don't know if everybody thinks like I do. But music is about sound and with guitar you play music. So guitar is about sound. :)
just installed this in my epiphone lp, works great. i highly recommend it, its called the tronical tune btw.
you can actually buy the system at guitar center for pretty much any guitar brand so you can actually retrofit it. just make sure that it is for your specific model before buying.
Imagine if it could tune all the strings instantly with one strum! The would be uber cool.
But I know people who would like to play by ear but they just can't because somebody has always tuned their guitar for them and they have only learned everything with tabs. As I said, these tuners are handy if you want to change your tuning fast and you don't need to worry about being out of tune when you are performing on stage. But many times beginners want to choose the easy way to do things that many times can harm their progress later. Using your ears is important because music is sound.
It's all about practicality.
I've had to use 5 different tunings on a show. I used 3 guitars to make it happen, and even then had to waste time changing tunings.
If I had one of these, I would not need to change guitars or lose time.
Definitely want one.
Very good to see a real demo of this.
One mistake, though, you CAN buy this as a standalone. They have templates on their website for Gibson and Fender headstocks.
It seems that when America fails at something, they call Germany to fix it! (NASA in the 1960s?).
Would switching between tunings drastically not muck up the tension of the neck? Also, if you go from standard E to drop C, the surely you'd want different gague strings to support the different tunings? I think the point about it being good for people who aren't good at tuning isn't great because if they get this, they won't learn and ill be stuck when they actually have to do it on a traditional guitar.
Apart from that I think it's an awesome concept and works really well.
I'd much rather rely on locking tuners, a great tuner, and a quick hand than this. Those three things have served me well in the past and still do to this day. That being said, this thing saved my ass on stage twice! I had to tune to e flat and open G and had to almost immediately each time. So I'll definitely give it that. I'd recommend this for those kinds of situations. Also, I have a buddy who was on stage (playing in standard) and his high E AND B string broke back to back...crazy shit. He grabbed a Les Paul that belonged to the other guitar player in his band, And got to E standard from D standard in the blink of an eye. So if tuning on the fly (manually) is a scary thought for you, TOTALLY go for this. Like Captain and Chappers said and proved, it works. Don't let this be an opportunity for you to become lazy though, Always tune your guitar or guitars by yourself as much as possible, And train your ear. You'll thank yourself in the long run.
This is going to be the shit in a studio situation.
Does it facilitate changing a string during a set?
you can retrofit a guitar with the "Min-Etune" purchase one from Tronical and install it. I've done it.
+Jared Poole and the new Plus version is much faster....
Howdy Mark, I also ordered one from Tronical. They have a posting on the order screen that says there will be a three week delay between payment and shipping. I was ready to open a dispute too but fired off an angry email to Tronical. They told me my tuner would ship last Friday. Their site indicates my order is still 'Awaiting Fullfilment' meaning they don't have inventory to ship yet.
I'd be pissed off but I really want the tuner.
Looks very handy to me, playing in a cover rock band using at least 3 different tunings throughout the sets. Saves time it seems and even nice to control your regular tuning after a couple songs. Nothing to do with knowing how to tune your guitar but more ease of time and reduce the tuning during playing a whole night. (especially between an open G and a drop D tuning. where I currently am using different guitars for)
Put one on a 2012 les paul studio....love it. Couldn't get it quite in perfect tune, compared against the expensive studio strobe tuner, but then I actually bothered to read the manual. Slightly adjusted the sensitivity, and since then the tunings are spot on. The beauty is having the ability to quickly change tunings live without standing on stage and fumbling around. Not usually a big fan of these "innovations" but this one is a keeper. I predict you will be seeing these on many other high end guitars (then cheaper models as prices go down on the units) such as Fender, PRS, etc.
I have 2 ibanez guitars with automatic tuners put on them. they work great. it's optional now on whatever guitar you want to put them on.
BTW, quality is first class. At first I found myself babying it. I soon realized this is a very robust mechanism.
Quick, Easy, and Very Useful.
Very good explanation. Thanks!
yes, google "tronical"
thats the company that actually supplies these units to gibson, you can buy them directly from their site
min-e tunes can be bought aftermarket from the actual manufacturer "tronical" avaliable for les paul and strat style guitars.
So with all these options and models they're available on, does it come on any left handed guitars?
I think the only proper use for something like this would be a musician who only has one guitar to use at a performance and needs multiple tunings.
And you sir just answered my complaint... thanks!
I was going to say what a load, but a retro fit kit would help get people involved with the hardware.
Personally, I think it's neat and gigging with a tuner like that would be nice. Still, I would prefer a regular headstock for a LP Studio etc. LP's not that cheap...
How many tunings before the motor brushes wear out & when a kid puts acoustic strings on the tuners because he didn't know? What would happen then...
cool stuff as long as it's durable and stays true it's great tool
That’s amazing!
It's actually available by itself,not sold by Gibson but Tronical, the brand that builds it for Gibson ! I found them on Thomann but TH-cam won't let me put the URL link here...
Great feature !
They should make a six in line version and sell it as a stand alone product. I might wanna put this bad boy on my alexi laiho signature.
Tronical do offer six in line, lefty too
Tronical offers Six in line.
Pee Jay in fact the min e tune is from tronical if you look closely
surely your Alexi has a floyd ? this wouldnt work with that since you need to lock the nut
Sadly, it can't be sold as a stand alone product. The guitar has to have wire running down through the inside of the neck and connect to the internal wiring of the guitar itself. So while it would be VERY cool to be able to buy, slap onto a guitar, and start using it straight away, it can't do that for a while.
It's a shame they can't be retro-fit to your existing LP's. I certainly would buy them for mine and Gibson would sell a ton of these. I mean it would mean the difference between bringing 4 or 5 guitars to the gig in different tunings versus 1 main and 1 backup.
Thanks for the informative video! Glad someone did a real life test of this!
this is insanely innovative and reliable. people who hate on it are just little cry babies. I can tune guitar just fine, but I play many different things, in many different tunings, and tuning can be ANNOYING. I can't wait to get one.
This is nice but there's more to tuning the guitar than what is shown here. How quickly it it will fuck up intonation of the guitar when it has some weird tuning?
They are also on the gibson midtown 2015 and 2016 model
How could it NOT add any weight to the headstock?
i bought a futura this week, and since i'm in a band that gigs alot, i cover a lot of songs, and i've always left the stones material out, cos i couldn't get the room to bring another guitar in g tuning, so this allows me to open the sets up to anything not cos i'm lazy when it comes to tuning, cos it creates flow as the night goes on, and face it, a good rock show depends on how well you build your sets..
Works great until you try to change strings. Sometimes the gears strip during wind up. My SG is still in the shop getting repaired. Can't wait to get it back though.
I know I don't need this, but it just seems so fucking epic....
Different open tunings usually function better with differing gauge strings.
Probably. At the end of the video when he said you HAVE to buy a new Gibson that comes with it, that's actually false. If you visit the tronical components website you can buy the tuning system for pretty much any model Gibson or Fender.
I can see this being used on backup guitars, just need one that can quickly be tuned to what you need
If i remember right, Gibson had made 'robot' guitar around 2006 or 2007 i guess... same principle.... Just that the Tuner was on the tone/volume controls.
Ok I was against this at first, but the fact you can set your own tuning is fucking kick ass and a major plus for playing live shows and not have to alternate tuning for 2 minutes with a crowd waiting on you.
Id love to put one of these on my Orville...
The sounds like for under £1000 is cool but would it be possible to do a few sounds like high end stuff? Like if money wasn't a object and you wanted to get the perfect set up to play Hendrix, Satriani, Gilmour, zakk wylde, Dimebag, Tommy Morello etc
I think this would be really useful for tuning in between songs. Mute the guitar, turn it on, strum, done. Cool idea. Wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.
What is the song at 00:00 ? Dayummm
So cool.Do they made one who fits to a ibanez?6 tuner in a line?
Chappers' intro in an Anderton's video?
Imagine that you're a guitar player who has to play a gig and you have songs with diverse tuining: standard, drop D, DADGAD, etc. And you only have one guitar and you don't want to lose time tuning your guitar in the middle of the stage. Just because you don't have the problem it doesn't mean that it's not exist. I like to play songs with a lot of different tunings and this would be very useful to me.
WITCHCRAFT! ITS WITCHCRAFT. TUNER DONT MOVE BY THEMSELVES!
I really like that guitar!
I have this same guitar with the min-e-tune and I love it. But beware, if you want to use it live on stage and you need to switch between tunings, you have to be wary of who you are playing with. If your bassist, or the other guitarist can't stop noodling between songs, you are not going to get it to tune properly.
The noise that they create will cause your guitar to vibrate just enough to throw it off and it will start to cry.
You guys forgot to list the hd 6x, the coolest guitar by far
I am looking thru old Anderton vids and got a great laugh out of this. The boys are a bit perky in this one.
Love it! But what about drop c and c#???
SOOOO helpful especially hen the drummers are like 'No I will not stop hitting the crash!!!'
I'm confused...I thought standard tuning is 4ths. E to A is a 4th, A to D is a 4th, etc. Unless the B is tuned to C, maybe? And then the E would be F. Yeah, I guess that would be a way to show a user tuning.
I may be wrong but isn't E to A 3 whole steps E...F,G,A 3 steps up not four so it'd be in 3rds standard tuning but I may be wrong still a little new at this
E to A is 2 1/2 steps. E to F# is one whole step, F# to G# another, and then G# to A is a 1/2 step. A 3rd is a 1 11/2 steps, ie. E to G# (E to F# to G). A 4th is the 4th note of the scale, or 2 1/2 steps. A major scale follows a pattern of 11 1/2 111 1/2. And a whole step is 2 half-steps (or 2 frets on a guitar). So a guitar is tuned to 4ths, until you get to the B string, which is a 3rd, and then B to E is a 4th again. My question is whether they meant the whole thing is tuned to 4ths, which would be EADGCF. I hope this helps.
What is it with some people? All the negative comments whilst completely missing the point! I play in a band with a set that requires me to use 4 to 5 different tunings for every gig and that entails having the minimum of 3 (usually 4 ) guitars to hand each time we play. Granted I can probably go from standard tuning to open G or double dropped D and back again in the same kind of time this unit takes but certainly not open E or tuned down a full tone. To avoid too many guitar changes we tend to put all our open E songs together and likewise all our open G songs and so on and that gets boring. Equipped with this system it takes all the hassle and worry away and lets me get on with it. Whats the problem with that?
rob and lee are like the worlds BEST duo
Noticed some comments like if you're just playing at home to your cat etc, you don't need this, that's exactly why I like this. Im still learning but even when I do learn to play I'll just be playing to myself, or next doors dog, I can't be arsed wasting time tuning in so doing it quick with this would be great.
Not for me but if you want it get it. When it tuned to standard it didn't properly flatten the G to sweeten the Emajor to my ear.
dam nice. i want some of these.
What kind of SG is that behind Rob? The one on the right with dot inlays.
2:24 I think you'll find it's an Eb major cord Rob, lol!
Will this fit an Epiphone les paul? I'm seeing kits on ebay.... yet at 6:48 ...?