@@coiler3927 Tbh blaming them would be like blaming someone for being exposed to lethal dose of radiation. Those guys were outside at the wrong time in the wrong place but they held their ground till that time
@@KalashVodka175 to be in literally the next room you meet the last sane cadians who even admit "the others were weak, everyone left are the strong willed ones"
@@thatorangeguy3646 She’s being kind of a dick. She’s in an area thats at least semi shielded from the blast radius of the artifact. All the insane ones were outside in the open.
The Confessor comforting the wounded Guardsman was a good moment. Reminds me that not everyone affiliated with the Ecclisiarchy is a maniacal taskmaster.
@@venerablebrothergoriate5844 Theres lot of nuanced portrayal of ecclesiarchy officials across books and even games. Hierarch Hieronymus Doloroso in Rogue Trader for exemple : he’s an absolute fanatic (and also horribly pessimistic about everything even by 40k standards) but he truly believes in the concept of redemption through faith. Oh and he cares for the destitute and poorest on the station. The fat cat big shots of the church who don’t believe in their own preachings definitely exist tho but they don’t make 100% of the ecclesiarchy (
@@KalashVodka175 Oh the fat cat big shots might also be the types who truly believe their riches are Emperor-given and thus are completely horribly self-righteous.
@@Psycho3678 When it comes to mind manipulation slaneshi Keepers of secrets are way worse, one thing is to be stunned with inconprehensible visions, the other is to go against your comrades and be made to enjoy and fell like torturing them, as you yourself feel unimaginable pain and despair when resisting not doing its will, even worse space marines are not immune to it and the keeper's blades cause you to sufer for what seems like many lifetimes before dying. The whole reason harlequins are obsesively taught about playing characters and wearing masques on the battlefield is so they can detach themselves from their personal wishes and wills completely, as any personal feelings are gonna be corrupted and hijacked by a keeper of secrets and used to control them, even with their psychic might and the help of their gods and tech that is one hard battle.
Those who kept fighting were true bred cadians with the same mutations, some probably fought on cadia or some were descendants of pure cadians, regardless the ones whos minds were broken dont have the iconic purple eyes
"...I thought HIM weak. It was just a moment..." "HE knows." "But it was me. I was weak. I-" "We are all weak. It is why HE carries us in the end." 3:42
Fun fact, if you look at their eyes. The Cadians who continue fighting have the Iconic purple eyes while the Cadians who enter madness are post-13th BC recruits. Those who grew up with the exposure from the eye are resistant to the madness of Chaos. Weird Leandros isn't tattling to the Inquisition in this scene for the Cadians that can resist Chaos.
It's not weird at all, Leandros should know they are naturally more resistant to Chaos, and this is a Leondro's with 200 years of experience under his belt, that's a lot of time to learn things, compared to Titus who had no real exposure to the warp before and then suddenly being resistant to it, by all means it is weird and quite suspicious, anyway the Deathwatch is pretty badass so I'm not too mad at him for sending Titus to the inquisition
Say... if two Cadians, purple-eyed Cadians, were to have kids together, the kids would be purple-eyed too, right? But what would happen if it were to be one who is purple-eyed and one who is not? Would their kids be still purple-eyed or not?
Leandros most likely got his ass whooped and his head filled with information about what Chaos actually does to people. Now he doesn't go on about "kHaOS" all the time but rather sticks to the responsibilities of being a Chaplain, gathering solid evidence of corruption rather than being an absolute rat
I actually found the commisar body outside the base. Due to some bug he was still standing but considering he was not far from thr base entrance, he most likely kept sane enough trying to reach the base but lost his sanity the moment he reach the entrance.
@@SANESX I know, I mention it because that is the same commissar she was talking about. Easy to miss when he is not bugged since not many people look at the ground to notice him dead on the floor.
They were all directly exposed to the warp in its purest form. They legit were immersed in the warp, however briefly. They went through hell; even tho they survived it, their mind will remain broken or worst
In the Fall of Cadia novel, near the end after Cadia was destroyed, one Commissar who survived the full assault of the black crusade began to talk with the guardsmen to stop evacuating because all of them were exposed to the touch of Chaos. One of them mutated in front of everyone and was gunned down. The directive was to kill everyone exposed and them herself in the end to stop the corruption. In the end she was tricked and her head was blown out. They endured the worst that Chaos could muster to destroy them, they were not gonna commit seppuku because the ranting of a Commissar.
Because Commissars are usually normal people. Sure their resolve should probably higher than some conscriptsbut direct exposure to the warp would tear any normal human mind apart
It's directly tied to their warp exposure. They are genetically hardened and mutated as a result of it, meaning they have a natural resistance to daemonic influence. That, and the people least likely to fall to chaos are those that know of and combat it. It's one of the core issues with the Imperium, the misbegotten idea that humans fall to chaos because they're aware of it, not because they aren't.
3:20 The confession by the wounded Guardsman is one of the great moments of regular humanity. The Guardsman cursing the Emperor for just a moment before he realized his own weakness, and the Confessor affirming their weakness as humans. What a great touch of scriptwriting.
I wish there were executable interactions you could trigger that have Tidus and the others trying to comfort the guardsmen after being exposed to that Obelisk.
Titus? Caring about broken guardsmen? What's this, a salamander? This is what it means to have "no good guys", grim dark, those who slip are worthless, tho who don't are bound to
Yea no, if they lose their mind mind for even a second they are tainted with chaos and heresy. Titus would put them down as a mercy if anything but knowing him it would be for the practical purpose of ensuring no other daemonspawn can appear
Sgt. Major Morrow, one of several mission handlers in Darktide told the Reject characters we're on the better side of the new Imperium and from looking at the splinter fleets of the 4th Tyrannic War, these planets are also on the better side of the Imperium. That means we could get rejects from these Guardsmen as you originally said.
This is the reason Tzeench is my favourite chaos god by FAR. They just really deliver on that lovecraftian angle, of being driven into madness by seeing things beyond mortal comprehension like no other.
i always loved the opposite with khorne because khorne embodies something so human. especially in old lore and in warhammer fantasy, khorne embodies a primal hatred in all things, something all beings feel. especially as a young male in the modern day without any good outlet to put that natural male energy into other than working out, i really have felt that spontaneous irrational rage described by khorne. khorne may be fictional, but all men know the masculine urge to die in brutal melee warfare for a cause greater than yourselves. khorne is so scary because of all the chaos gods he might be the one hardest to remove from the warp as hatred is by far the strongest emotion humans can feel. there is a reason humans are most commonly unified against what we commonly hate rather than what we commonly love. nurgle's rot may be cleansed from the warp, slaanesh's decadence fade with time, even tzeetch magics and schemes brought to a close, but with humanity spread so far across the galaxy, can you ever truly remove the embodiment of war and hatred from the warp without removing the race that most empowers khorne?
2:50 Probably the same Commissar referenced in the Command room. He lived as he BLAM'd. Good job denying Chaos the pleasure of torturing those 13 souls, including him.
@@the-letter_s "Guardsman. Stop." 'YOU SPEAK ILL OF CADIA ONE MORE TIME, AND SO HELP ME EMPEROR OF TERRA I WILL-' "Guardsman. Look around you. There is a war to fight. Will you honor Cadia's legacy by fighting His enemies, or a brother in arms?" 'I...' 'Thank you, my Lord.'
that cadian would prove to become so full of rage and bloodlust that angron in his worst moment would blush at the carnage. khorne himself granted the cadian demon princehood on the spot.
Goes to so it took such a direct surge of chaos energies to make the Cadians break down like this and even then there were a good share who hadn't. Being just normal humans trained totally for war and so radically dedicated, no one can blame them for cracking under such mind melting power.
I like this because its showing that on the ground humanity is still there, even under the extremism. Something that is easy to miss when reading or looking at this universe from afar. Seeing the Space Marines actually feel for their corrupted comrades instead of them just straight up crushing them beneath their boot if they happen to get in the way. A rare moment of empathy and humanity from the transhumanists.
Space marines are not transhuman. They are superhuman, or perhaps posthuman. They still have all the traits of humanity, but amplified to become the finest soldiers of humanity, their vulnerabilities excised and strengths enhanced. The true transhumans within 40k are the mechanicus, since they view their own flesh and personality as weaknesses, while something artificial, machinery, is blessed and a suitable replacement for their humanity.
@@tau-5794 "They still have all the traits of humanity" Like Iron Hands, Marines Malevolent, Star Phantoms, Black Templars, Carcharodons, Minotaurs, Revilers, and so on Not mentioning not-so-Chaosy traitor Astartes like Iron Warriors, Night Lords, and Red Corsairs
@@eyeballpapercut4400 Being callous and cruel is a very human trait, and the traitor legions fell because they succumbed to their base human impulses and emotions.
@@tau-5794 "amplified to become the finest" there's no fkin way Iron Hands, Marines Malevolent, Star Phantoms, and Revilers are the finest. Empathy is also part of humanity. You can't say "finest" at being human without them having high empathy and regulated cruelty. The problem with Iron Hands also isn't just "callous and cruel", even Ferrus knows this. A lot of Black Templars, Ultramarines, Marines Malevolent, Night Lords, and Iron Warriors also do not consider themselves humans, and they are correct. Go ahead and read Helsreach. Even further, the Black Legion do not consider themselves Space Marines nor baseline humans. Lastly, the biology of Astartes gives them next to 0 biological day-to-day life relatability to even the best mortals such as Yarrick and Creed.
@@eyeballpapercut4400 Empathy? Feelings? Oh, please. This isn't some university symposium where we gently probe the ethics of the Imperium. This is the grim darkness of the far future, where there is only WAR. And in war, the only feelings you can afford are anger, hatred, and the satisfaction of victory against those who’d love nothing more than to see our civilizations turned to ash. In this universe, mercy is a sign of weakness, dialogue is the prelude to betrayal, and understanding is an invitation to invasion. We’re not here trying to understand our enemies and sing kumbaya around the campfire. We’re here to ensure humanity’s light, dim as it may be in this nightmarish future, doesn’t get snuffed out by the cold, unfeeling vacuum of space filled with beings that regard us as nothing more than vermin. So, if you're so deeply enamored with that soft, fluffy thing called petty morality, why don’t you just warp on over to Star Trek? You know, that little universe where everyone spends their time sipping synthahol and discussing their feelings, where emotions effortlessly trump logic every single time. Engage! Beam yourself into a world where conflict is resolved with a heartfelt conversation and a Vulcan mind meld. Maybe you can join the Federation and bask in the glow of moral superiority while the rest of us deal with the harsh realities of, well, *actual* war.
Dan Abnett has a cool short story about guardsmen that had been in really tough wars. They were insane in a way that they started killing anyone in cities (as civilians) that they thought would be an agent of chaos. They sacrificed civvies to emperor. I would think these survivors would be at high risk doing the same thing. Need an Eisenhorn to sort them out in the end.
Thats why Leandros did what he did. These guardsmen went insane from a single interaction at a very long distance with a chaotic artifact. Titus HELD A CHAOS ARTIFACT holding the full power of the warp in his fucking hands! Any other marine would have died OR been corrupted. Titus was an exception not the norm
Leandros also broke the tenets of the Codex when he did it, while still claiming he was faithful to it. He should have alerted the Company Chaplain or Librarian and have them inspect Titus for corruption. Space Marines, especially First Founding Chapters, manage problems in house. That's the rule.
@@ForgottenHonor0 You know, I didn't think of this until now, but do you think he might've visited a Chaplain off screen, who then informed the Inquisition?
man after the end times she REALLY got lost in the warp so hard she switched canons. hell if saltpyre followed her i can imagine him becoming another commisar yarrick.
That woman remaining strong and calling herself a daughter of cadia completely reaffirms why I love them so much. No superhuman modifications, no cermite armour, no grueling initiation trials, just a human woman who is able to remain just as strong as the emperor's angels and that makes her and her other brothers and sisters who kept their heads stronger than they could ever be.
More like Khorneworld would make them kill each other, nurgle would require a commisar to stand by the sickbay door, and Slaanesh would make them set themselves on fire or cut their necks to experience new feelings.
Actually, we know what Khrone would do becuase of the Arks of Omen campaigns. So, angron and the world eaters, as they do, were absolutely cleaving their way through an imperial planet ( angron was literally flying through ships to destroy them ) and khrone, for probably the first time, was kinda like "yo, these dudes actually go hard". So, Khrone, to make everything even more killy, STOOD UP, and swiped his sword, almost splitting the planet clean in two. Almost everyone on world. Every guardsman, civilian, slave, serf was afflicted with a khornate rage and are officially corrupted by Khorne.
Tzeentch causes insanity and mutation Khorne causes mindless rage and turns man against man Nurgle causes sickness and slow decay Slaanesh causes enticement and complacency
Khorne would have them go into a bloodthirst rage, at each others throats while are butchering them left and right. Nurgle would turn them all into mindless zombies all hissing and singing his blessing song as a means of corrupting and turning anyone else infected by his plague. Slaanesh would have them all torturing and mutilating themselves and each other for pleasure beyond their own comprehension.
i imagine being exposed to such direct levels of the warp would be like having a panic attack and psychotic break at the same times while on crack, surprised that any of the guards are managing to pull them themselves through it :(
It comes across so Lovecraftian, absolutely perfect for Tzeentch Also I was wondering why they don’t kill them and the game actually addresses this! The level of minor detail and theme is awesome Edit: Just finished the rest of the vid and that voice recording is chilling, I’ve experienced psychosis in the past and though I don’t believe in trigger warnings some of what he said robbed me of my breath
"Their human minds..." Buddy, you might have lots of fancy organs and a higher than normal resistance to Chaos but you are not the Emperor. You are still very much human yourself and you can still be broken.
A good chunk of them seem to be redeemable. The ones talking about loyalty to the Imperium, the Emperor protects and how they will not yield will probably make a recovery should they survive later.
Please tell me I wasn’t the only one when I encountered these poor cadians that I equipped my bolt pistol and tried to end their misery with a holy bolt round as cadians fought like devils now their suffered (cadians are my favourite guard regiment I love them) they deserve the emperors mercy not because of cowardice but for facing impossible odds that no man or Astarte should ever see
This is crazy. Its an adaptation of what ususally happens when Tzeentch hits the planet. Their poor brains. Scrambled like morning eggs. Emperor heal their souls.
cool detail i heard in a video. all the cadians that broke are not cadians that were born on cadia. all the ones who broke do NOT have purple eyes while the ones that remained fine do have purple eyes showing their warp resistance
With how many survived with minimal time to get ready or to prep in case of this type of event. They did good. Its not darktide where your character has a reason to kill mindless people as a mercy thought line regument just pushing back a tyranid horde and then getting to fight rumors of choas is different then darktides inquisition support and supplies
okay so for all the tourists who don't know, these aren't true Cadians from Cadia, actually Cadians were born so close to the eye of terror they have natural warp resistance, this is shown by their purple eyes a sort of scar of the warp, later when you find uncorrupted Cadians you will be able to note purple eyes compared to other Cadian troops that are simply random imperial guard/citizen adopted into their ranks to fill the loses post the lose of Cadia.
@@tomorbataar5922they are made, but not by recruitment. Their creation is vague but I believe they are lab born and each cell in their body individually augmented by bio-alchemists.
@@clan741 I'm pretty sure they're made from babies or very young, taken from noble families on Terra. Though yeah the process is so detailed and complex they may as well be lab-born. Each a work of art in their own right.
@@clan741 Custodes aren't all lab born. Any that came to be after the Emperor was entombed on the Golden Throne were initially infants born from the highest ranking nobles and officers of Terra who trust their lives so much to the Emperor they were chosen to provide. They do still go through extensive gene manipulation and cybernetic enhancements to bring out their full potential, though.
@@mapleflag6518 Idk, a rat vs a hyperpowerful egomaniac with futuresight? Fact is, Big E doomed the entirety of humanity to forever be livestock for Chaos, and worse still, to be deluded into thinking they were "fighting against the dying of the light".
@louisnall3102 And besides, regardless of his "plan", Mr. Futuresight ended up dooming humanity to an eternity of being fodder for Chaos with his actions. So his intentions are worthless, his actions fucked humanity.
Commissar shot himself
Now thats a moral boost!
For Catachans
I Really Interest When Found Commissar can Broke before Normal Guard sometimes !
He failed his morale save, so he shot himself. A+ Commissar.
*”If you will not serve on the battlefield then you will serve on the firing line”*
press E to Execute
@@averagemumeienjoyer5498
For nearly all Guard regiments/corps.
"I am a daughter of Cadia and I will not yield"
Honestly, that is Sister of Battle material.
Nah, she's still far too sane to be a Sister.
@@aRandomFox00 I mean, there's a way for her to cleanse herself, so... nothing is impossible🤔？
@@The_Penguin_8964 I'm saying the Sororitas are batshit crazy and she's not psycho enough to be one of them.
The Sisters are Zealots to the core.
That's quite an insult to a proud guardswoman. She is no lunatic.
I like how the Ultramarines don't really blame the ones who were overwhelmed.
They were exposed, forced upon. This is the kind of corruption that's understandable.
@@coiler3927
Tbh blaming them would be like blaming someone for being exposed to lethal dose of radiation. Those guys were outside at the wrong time in the wrong place but they held their ground till that time
I do, weak traitors.
@@KalashVodka175 to be in literally the next room you meet the last sane cadians who even admit "the others were weak, everyone left are the strong willed ones"
@@thatorangeguy3646
She’s being kind of a dick. She’s in an area thats at least semi shielded from the blast radius of the artifact. All the insane ones were outside in the open.
The Confessor comforting the wounded Guardsman was a good moment. Reminds me that not everyone affiliated with the Ecclisiarchy is a maniacal taskmaster.
@@venerablebrothergoriate5844
Theres lot of nuanced portrayal of ecclesiarchy officials across books and even games. Hierarch Hieronymus Doloroso in Rogue Trader for exemple : he’s an absolute fanatic (and also horribly pessimistic about everything even by 40k standards) but he truly believes in the concept of redemption through faith. Oh and he cares for the destitute and poorest on the station.
The fat cat big shots of the church who don’t believe in their own preachings definitely exist tho but they don’t make 100% of the ecclesiarchy (
@@KalashVodka175 Oh the fat cat big shots might also be the types who truly believe their riches are Emperor-given and thus are completely horribly self-righteous.
He's not a real confessor, just another guardsman
space marine 2 or the imperium of man for noob
@@warellis you speak of Ecclesiarch Kenneth Copeland?
This perfectly illustrates why the Imperium is so hostile to the depravations of the Warp
A mere exposure is enough to bring some planetarian broken
Depravations. Deprivation is to be deprived (i.e. lack) of something. Depravation is a synonym for depravity.
@@Nateriotic thanks
And still, most people blame Leandros.
@@Saphintosh exactly! He was very paranoid like any other Imperial over the concerns of Chaos so I cannot blame him
Hey it took direct exposure to a warp portal and a juiced up greater deamon and even than most of them kept fighting
Not just any greater daemon but a Lord of Change which causes the most madness due to the eldritch nature of tzeentch.
@@Psycho3678 When it comes to mind manipulation slaneshi Keepers of secrets are way worse, one thing is to be stunned with inconprehensible visions, the other is to go against your comrades and be made to enjoy and fell like torturing them, as you yourself feel unimaginable pain and despair when resisting not doing its will, even worse space marines are not immune to it and the keeper's blades cause you to sufer for what seems like many lifetimes before dying.
The whole reason harlequins are obsesively taught about playing characters and wearing masques on the battlefield is so they can detach themselves from their personal wishes and wills completely, as any personal feelings are gonna be corrupted and hijacked by a keeper of secrets and used to control them, even with their psychic might and the help of their gods and tech that is one hard battle.
Those who kept fighting were true bred cadians with the same mutations, some probably fought on cadia or some were descendants of pure cadians, regardless the ones whos minds were broken dont have the iconic purple eyes
"...I thought HIM weak. It was just a moment..."
"HE knows."
"But it was me. I was weak. I-"
"We are all weak. It is why HE carries us in the end."
3:42
This scene is incredible
It was surprisingly insightful of the Emperor's condition, he sacrificies himself to let humanity live on.
Fun fact, if you look at their eyes. The Cadians who continue fighting have the Iconic purple eyes while the Cadians who enter madness are post-13th BC recruits. Those who grew up with the exposure from the eye are resistant to the madness of Chaos. Weird Leandros isn't tattling to the Inquisition in this scene for the Cadians that can resist Chaos.
It's not weird at all, Leandros should know they are naturally more resistant to Chaos, and this is a Leondro's with 200 years of experience under his belt, that's a lot of time to learn things, compared to Titus who had no real exposure to the warp before and then suddenly being resistant to it, by all means it is weird and quite suspicious, anyway the Deathwatch is pretty badass so I'm not too mad at him for sending Titus to the inquisition
Say... if two Cadians, purple-eyed Cadians, were to have kids together, the kids would be purple-eyed too, right?
But what would happen if it were to be one who is purple-eyed and one who is not? Would their kids be still purple-eyed or not?
@@Briselance someone didn't pay attention to their genetics class
Leandros most likely got his ass whooped and his head filled with information about what Chaos actually does to people. Now he doesn't go on about "kHaOS" all the time but rather sticks to the responsibilities of being a Chaplain, gathering solid evidence of corruption rather than being an absolute rat
@@blazeburner303 he ask a god question
I actually found the commisar body outside the base. Due to some bug he was still standing but considering he was not far from thr base entrance, he most likely kept sane enough trying to reach the base but lost his sanity the moment he reach the entrance.
There is a dialogue about a commissar who executed 15 of his men then himself.
@@SANESX I know, I mention it because that is the same commissar she was talking about. Easy to miss when he is not bugged since not many people look at the ground to notice him dead on the floor.
never imagined that Commissars, of all the Imperial Guard officers, would be capable of becoming mad.
at the end of the day Commissars are still normal humans there is going to be a breaking point especially with direct exposure here
They were all directly exposed to the warp in its purest form. They legit were immersed in the warp, however briefly. They went through hell; even tho they survived it, their mind will remain broken or worst
He was sane enough to realise he was corrupted by chaos and needed to be blammed alongside everyone else nearby.
In the Fall of Cadia novel, near the end after Cadia was destroyed, one Commissar who survived the full assault of the black crusade began to talk with the guardsmen to stop evacuating because all of them were exposed to the touch of Chaos. One of them mutated in front of everyone and was gunned down. The directive was to kill everyone exposed and them herself in the end to stop the corruption. In the end she was tricked and her head was blown out. They endured the worst that Chaos could muster to destroy them, they were not gonna commit seppuku because the ranting of a Commissar.
Because Commissars are usually normal people. Sure their resolve should probably higher than some conscriptsbut direct exposure to the warp would tear any normal human mind apart
An extremely interesting fact is that most less broken cadians are the purple eye ones which are the humans born and raised on cadia itself.
It's directly tied to their warp exposure. They are genetically hardened and mutated as a result of it, meaning they have a natural resistance to daemonic influence. That, and the people least likely to fall to chaos are those that know of and combat it. It's one of the core issues with the Imperium, the misbegotten idea that humans fall to chaos because they're aware of it, not because they aren't.
"...For I am Tzeentch, and you are the puppet that dances to my tune!"
"Screw you, chicken boy!"
Some Cadians.
3:20
The confession by the wounded Guardsman is one of the great moments of regular humanity. The Guardsman cursing the Emperor for just a moment before he realized his own weakness, and the Confessor affirming their weakness as humans. What a great touch of scriptwriting.
I wish there were executable interactions you could trigger that have Tidus and the others trying to comfort the guardsmen after being exposed to that Obelisk.
You mean execute? Theres no hope for heretics.
@@stripe1919ify
They are no heretics, just broken. They require the Emperor’s mercy, but not in a dishonourable way.
In one of the trailers Titus seemed to node his head to some of these situations you find across the mission but idk if it was fully implemented.
Titus? Caring about broken guardsmen? What's this, a salamander?
This is what it means to have "no good guys", grim dark, those who slip are worthless, tho who don't are bound to
Yea no, if they lose their mind mind for even a second they are tainted with chaos and heresy. Titus would put them down as a mercy if anything but knowing him it would be for the practical purpose of ensuring no other daemonspawn can appear
I would say "Well we got some new rejects for Tertium at least" but these poor sods are on the other side of the Galactic Warp Tear sooooo
Sgt. Major Morrow, one of several mission handlers in Darktide told the Reject characters we're on the better side of the new Imperium and from looking at the splinter fleets of the 4th Tyrannic War, these planets are also on the better side of the Imperium.
That means we could get rejects from these Guardsmen as you originally said.
2:03 That is so sad, he killed his friends.
SNAP OUT OF IT GUARDSMAN!!!!!!! DON'T LET IT TAKE YOU!!!!! DON'T BREAK!!!!
This is the reason Tzeench is my favourite chaos god by FAR.
They just really deliver on that lovecraftian angle, of being driven into madness by seeing things beyond mortal comprehension like no other.
i always loved the opposite with khorne because khorne embodies something so human. especially in old lore and in warhammer fantasy, khorne embodies a primal hatred in all things, something all beings feel. especially as a young male in the modern day without any good outlet to put that natural male energy into other than working out, i really have felt that spontaneous irrational rage described by khorne.
khorne may be fictional, but all men know the masculine urge to die in brutal melee warfare for a cause greater than yourselves. khorne is so scary because of all the chaos gods he might be the one hardest to remove from the warp as hatred is by far the strongest emotion humans can feel. there is a reason humans are most commonly unified against what we commonly hate rather than what we commonly love.
nurgle's rot may be cleansed from the warp, slaanesh's decadence fade with time, even tzeetch magics and schemes brought to a close, but with humanity spread so far across the galaxy, can you ever truly remove the embodiment of war and hatred from the warp without removing the race that most empowers khorne?
@@sovietunion7643You should consider boxing.
2:50 Probably the same Commissar referenced in the Command room.
He lived as he BLAM'd. Good job denying Chaos the pleasure of torturing those 13 souls, including him.
"Damn guardsmen you look pretty broken"
"Oh yes my lord"
"You finally know how your planet felt"
today, we learn that the impossible can occur, as a guardsman beats a space marine to death with his bare hands.
Youch!
@@the-letter_s "Guardsman. Stop."
'YOU SPEAK ILL OF CADIA ONE MORE TIME, AND SO HELP ME EMPEROR OF TERRA I WILL-'
"Guardsman. Look around you. There is a war to fight. Will you honor Cadia's legacy by fighting His enemies, or a brother in arms?"
'I...'
'Thank you, my Lord.'
Damn
that cadian would prove to become so full of rage and bloodlust that angron in his worst moment would blush at the carnage. khorne himself granted the cadian demon princehood on the spot.
Goes to so it took such a direct surge of chaos energies to make the Cadians break down like this and even then there were a good share who hadn't. Being just normal humans trained totally for war and so radically dedicated, no one can blame them for cracking under such mind melting power.
I like this because its showing that on the ground humanity is still there, even under the extremism. Something that is easy to miss when reading or looking at this universe from afar. Seeing the Space Marines actually feel for their corrupted comrades instead of them just straight up crushing them beneath their boot if they happen to get in the way. A rare moment of empathy and humanity from the transhumanists.
Space marines are not transhuman. They are superhuman, or perhaps posthuman. They still have all the traits of humanity, but amplified to become the finest soldiers of humanity, their vulnerabilities excised and strengths enhanced.
The true transhumans within 40k are the mechanicus, since they view their own flesh and personality as weaknesses, while something artificial, machinery, is blessed and a suitable replacement for their humanity.
@@tau-5794 "They still have all the traits of humanity"
Like Iron Hands, Marines Malevolent, Star Phantoms, Black Templars, Carcharodons, Minotaurs, Revilers, and so on
Not mentioning not-so-Chaosy traitor Astartes like Iron Warriors, Night Lords, and Red Corsairs
@@eyeballpapercut4400 Being callous and cruel is a very human trait, and the traitor legions fell because they succumbed to their base human impulses and emotions.
@@tau-5794 "amplified to become the finest" there's no fkin way Iron Hands, Marines Malevolent, Star Phantoms, and Revilers are the finest.
Empathy is also part of humanity. You can't say "finest" at being human without them having high empathy and regulated cruelty.
The problem with Iron Hands also isn't just "callous and cruel", even Ferrus knows this.
A lot of Black Templars, Ultramarines, Marines Malevolent, Night Lords, and Iron Warriors also do not consider themselves humans, and they are correct. Go ahead and read Helsreach.
Even further, the Black Legion do not consider themselves Space Marines nor baseline humans.
Lastly, the biology of Astartes gives them next to 0 biological day-to-day life relatability to even the best mortals such as Yarrick and Creed.
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Empathy? Feelings? Oh, please. This isn't some university symposium where we gently probe the ethics of the Imperium. This is the grim darkness of the far future, where there is only WAR. And in war, the only feelings you can afford are anger, hatred, and the satisfaction of victory against those who’d love nothing more than to see our civilizations turned to ash.
In this universe, mercy is a sign of weakness, dialogue is the prelude to betrayal, and understanding is an invitation to invasion. We’re not here trying to understand our enemies and sing kumbaya around the campfire. We’re here to ensure humanity’s light, dim as it may be in this nightmarish future, doesn’t get snuffed out by the cold, unfeeling vacuum of space filled with beings that regard us as nothing more than vermin.
So, if you're so deeply enamored with that soft, fluffy thing called petty morality, why don’t you just warp on over to Star Trek? You know, that little universe where everyone spends their time sipping synthahol and discussing their feelings, where emotions effortlessly trump logic every single time. Engage! Beam yourself into a world where conflict is resolved with a heartfelt conversation and a Vulcan mind meld. Maybe you can join the Federation and bask in the glow of moral superiority while the rest of us deal with the harsh realities of, well, *actual* war.
Dan Abnett has a cool short story about guardsmen that had been in really tough wars. They were insane in a way that they started killing anyone in cities (as civilians) that they thought would be an agent of chaos. They sacrificed civvies to emperor. I would think these survivors would be at high risk doing the same thing. Need an Eisenhorn to sort them out in the end.
When the NPC's start acting like NPC's, you know something is off.
Thats why Leandros did what he did. These guardsmen went insane from a single interaction at a very long distance with a chaotic artifact. Titus HELD A CHAOS ARTIFACT holding the full power of the warp in his fucking hands! Any other marine would have died OR been corrupted. Titus was an exception not the norm
Leandros also broke the tenets of the Codex when he did it, while still claiming he was faithful to it. He should have alerted the Company Chaplain or Librarian and have them inspect Titus for corruption. Space Marines, especially First Founding Chapters, manage problems in house. That's the rule.
@@ForgottenHonor0the irony he fucking became the chaplain
And then he, Calgar and two other ultramarines entered the FUCKING WARP ITSELF and fought the greater daemon THERE
Drago eat your heart out
@@franciscoguinledebarros4429 yeah but primaris are much more resistant (if not immune?) to warp corruption than first borns
@@ForgottenHonor0 You know, I didn't think of this until now, but do you think he might've visited a Chaplain off screen, who then informed the Inquisition?
The Emperor Protects.
2:50 sienna from vermintide is that you???!
Same person, in many places as voice actress. In darktide she was only on some medicae stations as servitors voice.
man after the end times she REALLY got lost in the warp so hard she switched canons.
hell if saltpyre followed her i can imagine him becoming another commisar yarrick.
@@humanafterallTF2 I always thought she was the trapper voice too
You know when Commissar started shooting Them Men for NO REASON and then SHOT HIMSELF . . .
They shoot people for no reason all the time, it only becomes questionable when they look panicked during it or if they kill themself.
Well, this time guard broke before planet did.
If you look closely at the one’s who have gone mad they don’t have purple eyes
I was surprised those two guardsman were still alive. I thought when you left the planet, they’d be dead. I like them and I hope they get more scenes.
It never occurred to me that expose too much from the warp may break even a Commissar.
That woman remaining strong and calling herself a daughter of cadia completely reaffirms why I love them so much. No superhuman modifications, no cermite armour, no grueling initiation trials, just a human woman who is able to remain just as strong as the emperor's angels and that makes her and her other brothers and sisters who kept their heads stronger than they could ever be.
soo if this is watch Tzeentch does
Khornewould probably make them fight harder
Nurgle would probably make them vomit everywhere
Slaanesh...uhh...
Slannesh would be the scene from event horizon.
More like Khorneworld would make them kill each other, nurgle would require a commisar to stand by the sickbay door, and Slaanesh would make them set themselves on fire or cut their necks to experience new feelings.
Actually, we know what Khrone would do becuase of the Arks of Omen campaigns.
So, angron and the world eaters, as they do, were absolutely cleaving their way through an imperial planet ( angron was literally flying through ships to destroy them ) and khrone, for probably the first time, was kinda like "yo, these dudes actually go hard".
So, Khrone, to make everything even more killy, STOOD UP, and swiped his sword, almost splitting the planet clean in two. Almost everyone on world. Every guardsman, civilian, slave, serf was afflicted with a khornate rage and are officially corrupted by Khorne.
Tzeentch causes insanity and mutation
Khorne causes mindless rage and turns man against man
Nurgle causes sickness and slow decay
Slaanesh causes enticement and complacency
Khorne would have them go into a bloodthirst rage, at each others throats while are butchering them left and right.
Nurgle would turn them all into mindless zombies all hissing and singing his blessing song as a means of corrupting and turning anyone else infected by his plague.
Slaanesh would have them all torturing and mutilating themselves and each other for pleasure beyond their own comprehension.
THE IMPERIUM OVERCOMES, AND WE ARE THE IMPERIUM!!!
2:44 is that the fire witch from vermintides voice actor?
sound like it
It does sound like her, and she has been in a lot of the newer Warhammer stuff too.
IT IS
Yeah, it's her. She also voices one of the Psyker personalities in Darktide.
No she doesnt, she does voice some medicae stations in DT though
i imagine being exposed to such direct levels of the warp would be like having a panic attack and psychotic break at the same times while on crack, surprised that any of the guards are managing to pull them themselves through it :(
Number one rule of being a Cadian, keep mentioning you’re Cadian.
Even For a Commissar it was too much so did his duty to the end before shooting himself.
Its nice that the Space marine guarding reminded our characters to be mindful of the human casualties
Oh, hey, the major survived, Hell yeah.
She was inside the building when the blast occurred. She was lucky compared to her men who were outside...
that down of war winter assault theme at the end.
Cain, standing next to Jurgen, "You feel anything Jurgen?"
J: "No sir, not a thing "
2:45 THATS SIENNA’S VOICE ACTRESS FROM VERMINTIDE 2
"Squad broken!"
It comes across so Lovecraftian, absolutely perfect for Tzeentch
Also I was wondering why they don’t kill them and the game actually addresses this! The level of minor detail and theme is awesome
Edit: Just finished the rest of the vid and that voice recording is chilling, I’ve experienced psychosis in the past and though I don’t believe in trigger warnings some of what he said robbed me of my breath
Boy they sure are glad the Ultraboys were there and not Grey Knights
Damn, warp is helluva drug!
The cadian huge ball to stillable to resist the demon corruption directly
Imagine the field day if the grey knights were here instead.
Notice the steel legionnaires at the beginning that weren’t completely fucked and chanting the emperor protects? I did.
How it feels to chew 5 gum, 5 gum, stimulate your senses.
By the nine he’s tweaking
Praise the Raven God
"Their human minds..."
Buddy, you might have lots of fancy organs and a higher than normal resistance to Chaos but you are not the Emperor. You are still very much human yourself and you can still be broken.
A good chunk of them seem to be redeemable. The ones talking about loyalty to the Imperium, the Emperor protects and how they will not yield will probably make a recovery should they survive later.
Please tell me I wasn’t the only one when I encountered these poor cadians that I equipped my bolt pistol and tried to end their misery with a holy bolt round as cadians fought like devils now their suffered (cadians are my favourite guard regiment I love them) they deserve the emperors mercy not because of cowardice but for facing impossible odds that no man or Astarte should ever see
I tried to give them the emperors mercy as well
I LOVE this worldbuilding tidbits. Too bad many prime 40k youtubers skipped them.
3:58 Oh great, the Commissar shot himself.
I'm getting Darktide Daemonhost flashbacks.
nine upon nine upon nine (eons before that): "nien nien nien nien nien"... wonder if the chaos god of change was an inglorious bastard
2:37 Cienna? She escaped the End Times? I hope the rest followed!
Ooooh we’re definitely gonna have to liquidate some of these guys 😬
Only thing you can do is give them the emperors peace.
normal los angeles encounter
Would be funny if they hid a guardsman doing the floss as an easter egg.
1:47 bro saw the super gyatt
Hand me the Flamer
I got an indecisive mollusk to broil
And let the boys know there will be be plenty of fried chicken
This is crazy. Its an adaptation of what ususally happens when Tzeentch hits the planet. Their poor brains. Scrambled like morning eggs. Emperor heal their souls.
These ones broke before the planet
Just a typical night when me and my friends do 🍄🍄
Kriegers will never be like this
I hear Sienna!
that dreadnought was ready to kill magnus lol
WHERE IS MAGNUS
If their eyes are not purple, then they are not native Cadians in the Cadian regiments. Cadians don't break that easy.
- Should we show them mercy ?
- We have more pressing duties
- NAH I GOT TIME ! DIE HERETIC [Rews chainsword]
cool detail i heard in a video. all the cadians that broke are not cadians that were born on cadia. all the ones who broke do NOT have purple eyes while the ones that remained fine do have purple eyes showing their warp resistance
"The planet broke before the guard did" mfs when they see some purple lights:
I need theusic of the last minute.
The last 7? or so seconds is General Sturnn's Theme from Dawn of War Winter Assault. Great 40k RTS if your into that genre.
@@GreyCaliber Sorry, I actually meant the one with the guy Whisper about nine years of feathers
@@Tacoguy1000 I don't know, but it was recorded while I was on the ship listening to the data log.
@@GreyCaliber Dang, it feel like they omitted that one as none of the soundtracks are anything close to it. Thanks anyway.
With how many survived with minimal time to get ready or to prep in case of this type of event. They did good. Its not darktide where your character has a reason to kill mindless people as a mercy thought line regument just pushing back a tyranid horde and then getting to fight rumors of choas is different then darktides inquisition support and supplies
poor cadians
Is there a Cadian that wasn’t broken? I mean the old guard should be more resistant to Chaos.
okay so for all the tourists who don't know, these aren't true Cadians from Cadia, actually Cadians were born so close to the eye of terror they have natural warp resistance, this is shown by their purple eyes a sort of scar of the warp, later when you find uncorrupted Cadians you will be able to note purple eyes compared to other Cadian troops that are simply random imperial guard/citizen adopted into their ranks to fill the loses post the lose of Cadia.
Why is it possible for astartes and sorority’s to kill demons but not normal lasguns?
1:06 jews of ecstasy
Aren't confessors supposed to wear cassocks?
my first though was that it was actually a random guardsman standing in to try and comfort someone to wounded to know the difference.
@@owenthomas5103 Yeah that makes sense
@@owenthomas5103 He's also blindfolded now that I see it haha
Maybe the Grey Knights are onto something
The guard broke before the planet could! XD
The video doesn't show the next room over, where Cadians *are* still fighting.
Tell that to a Cadian and they'll make it look like an accident.
These writers get it 100%. Give them the Amazon show.
"I am a daughter of Cadia and I will not yield." You want to know where they find a candidate for a female Custodes? There. Right there.
custodes can still be made? i thought only Big E could make them as thats why there are so few of them.
Nah they are still made, but by a trickle if space marines are the waves.
@@tomorbataar5922they are made, but not by recruitment. Their creation is vague but I believe they are lab born and each cell in their body individually augmented by bio-alchemists.
@@clan741 I'm pretty sure they're made from babies or very young, taken from noble families on Terra. Though yeah the process is so detailed and complex they may as well be lab-born. Each a work of art in their own right.
@@clan741 Custodes aren't all lab born. Any that came to be after the Emperor was entombed on the Golden Throne were initially infants born from the highest ranking nobles and officers of Terra who trust their lives so much to the Emperor they were chosen to provide. They do still go through extensive gene manipulation and cybernetic enhancements to bring out their full potential, though.
Ha! Cadia fell, and now it's failure survivors are as broken as there planet. Such poetic symmetry pleases us....
inquisition, this one right here
*BLAM*
"Hello is this the inquisition?.... Yes, i'd like to file a report."
OI! At least dem gitz foight roigt.
And just like that you’re getting turned into a penitence engine.
And this is what the Emperor's actions doomed humanity to...
No it was what Erebus caused.
@@mapleflag6518 Idk, a rat vs a hyperpowerful egomaniac with futuresight? Fact is, Big E doomed the entirety of humanity to forever be livestock for Chaos, and worse still, to be deluded into thinking they were "fighting against the dying of the light".
@louisnall3102 Did he...? I'd like to ask all the humans he killed during the Great Crusade the same question lmao
@louisnall3102 And besides, regardless of his "plan", Mr. Futuresight ended up dooming humanity to an eternity of being fodder for Chaos with his actions. So his intentions are worthless, his actions fucked humanity.
@louisnall3102 Would it have been doomed? Verifiably?
They did the Cadians dirty here.
I mean...they only lost 1 platoon and half strength 5 others. That's fucking amazing for a warp pulse.
God i hate how they made them fifty-fifty men and women so stupid
40k gone woke 😢
Not here. Females always have been present in the guard.
If you can hold a lasgun, you can be a Guardsman. It's always been that way.
Woman in game = woke now?
There’s always been female guards
Nope everyone is equal cannon fodder in 40k