Why Fans CHEER At Maria’s Death

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  • @munklock6098
    @munklock6098 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1016

    Basically Maria is the Uncle Ben or Bruce's parents of Sonic lore

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

      oh my god… YOU COOKED- you better patent this because damn that’s spot on

    • @Dominic_mijo
      @Dominic_mijo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Yes

    • @1989BluePhantom
      @1989BluePhantom 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      That's surprisingly accurate actually💫

    • @JEvans-wy9ln
      @JEvans-wy9ln หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      i was about to ask who tf is bruce then midway realized you meant batman.

    • @phorchybug3286
      @phorchybug3286 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Uncle Ben?

  • @shingshongshamalama
    @shingshongshamalama หลายเดือนก่อน +242

    Maria exists TO DIE. The entire point of her character IS to give Shadow motivation and a conflicted sense of morality. Without her death, Shadow's entire concept as a character lacks a massive part of its foundation and is so much flimsier.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@shingshongshamalama spittin

    • @anxiousearth680
      @anxiousearth680 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah, get fridged!

    • @LordTyph
      @LordTyph หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@anxiousearth680 More like 'get Ben'd'

    • @LizHawk
      @LizHawk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I always wondered if this falls in the woman in the fridge trope

    • @LordTyph
      @LordTyph หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LizHawk The idea was around before that particular Green Lantern story. It's an Uncle Ben moment.

  • @zeehero7280
    @zeehero7280 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +617

    They aren't cheering at her death they are cheering for what it implies for who is writing the story. that they at least have some respect for existing canon and even if they change some things (living gerald) they probably wont ruin it.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      yeah exactly! the fact the series may start taking itself more seriously is a blessing after years of “nosey mc bald hair”

    • @zeehero7280
      @zeehero7280 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      @@ColCuts Baldy McNosehair. it's ok if its just something sonic calls eggman sometimes. but Eggman, while goofy, should be a real threat. who we know is fully capable of doing all kinds of bad things.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@zeehero7280 he blew up the MOON

    • @AerinstadasChronicler
      @AerinstadasChronicler 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      ​@@ColCutsI wanna see Eggy go to SatAM levels of threatening. Forces gave us a taste but the game itself was... bad.

    • @theduggening3061
      @theduggening3061 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Gerald being alive doesn't change much. But the tragedy of Maria is shadows reason for being a villian and later a hero.

  • @thesmolpopato4972
    @thesmolpopato4972 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +351

    "Maria" *explosion*

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@thesmolpopato4972 that’s exactly how it happened

    • @SpaceGT_07
      @SpaceGT_07 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      don’t make me bring up Eggman’s Twitter announcement

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@SpaceGT_07 go on

    • @Kayta-Linda
      @Kayta-Linda หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@ColCuts
      I’VE COME TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT!

  • @ArsinoeAhle
    @ArsinoeAhle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +547

    ....I miss my wife Tails...

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

      i miss her a lot….

    • @pal_the_gamer
      @pal_the_gamer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

      I'll be back

    • @funnysuperbr9462
      @funnysuperbr9462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      [Laughter]

    • @God-T
      @God-T 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      i think before they kill maria we should get to know her first maybe we get a shadow movie spin off with him thinking he can resurrect her using sonic rings to go to another world & find information on that possibility

    • @frostscythe910
      @frostscythe910 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This sounded weirder in my head

  • @AnnCatsanndra
    @AnnCatsanndra 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +239

    This! This! Hear hear! I don't necessarily need it to be *completely* on screen, a cutaway is fine, but if Maria does *not* get shot in the Sonic 3 movie or if they cheap out with leaving it to only mild implications, it feels like they think less of modern children than Sonic Team thought of children when they dropped Adventure 2, and something about that seems deeply insulting to the family I'm watching grow up from babies.
    Like, I know the movie is its own thing with its own divergent character types and story, but I'd be fine if they took Maria's fate shot-for-shot from Adventure 2.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@AnnCatsanndra exactly! i always think it’s crazy how we beg for what used to be the standard

    • @laniakeas92
      @laniakeas92 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I mean yeah, but it's more important to portray Shadow's reaction in an approprite way. We never really saw any humane response from Shadow to this scene. It's a good chance for Paramount to develop his personality further.

    • @Andythesonicfan
      @Andythesonicfan หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Without Maria’s death, the film doesn’t deserve to exist

  • @comedyclownsstudios
    @comedyclownsstudios หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    "Shadow. It's a canon event"-Eggman

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      in 3 days

  • @FormulaFanboy
    @FormulaFanboy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +181

    I'm not even a sonic fan but because the third movie trailer looked so cool I learned the lore and now I'm a 'maria getting shot' fan

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@FormulaFanboy you know what’s up

    • @cracarlos_au5757
      @cracarlos_au5757 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Welcome brother, we may look stupid at times but you will enjoy your time in the fandom, we have chilli dogs on the table at the left

    • @John-X
      @John-X หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      it looks like she's gonna die in an explosion tho, & not the traditional "face the wall" way :(

    • @FormulaFanboy
      @FormulaFanboy หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      John Doe They better not, imagine how devastated I would be as somebody who just joined the "pro-Maria-getting-shot" fandom

    • @John-X
      @John-X หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FormulaFanboy Mario?😅bro that's a different franchise 😂

  • @aaronta6573
    @aaronta6573 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    Imagine the 8 yr olds seeing everyone cheer when she dies in the movie

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@aaronta6573 irreversible damage to the brand

    • @Termina2018
      @Termina2018 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The parents who brought their kids would be so disgusted 💀

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I think the reason people celebrate when Maria dies is because it means SEGA Is acknowledging who Shadow truly is. Remember just a decade ago Shadow said that friends make you weak. So to acknowledge Maria and what she means to Shadow is a step in the right direction, even if I really hope that same logic is also applied to Team Dark one day.
    There is also that deprived part of our brain that enjoys tragedy in fiction. Nobody likes the story where everything goes perfectly fine in the same way. No one likes the story where everything goes completely completely wrong. There has to be a balance. So to see one of the most tragic moments in the series finally acknowledged after years of meaningless events in Colors, Generations, Lost World, & Forces means that they are finally taking things seriously again

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@comicfan1324 giving you a standing ovation rn

  • @ClassicDepravities
    @ClassicDepravities หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    it's his canon event. if it doesn't exist, shadow isn't going to be the character he is.

  • @theduggening3061
    @theduggening3061 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    People mostly just want to see it faithfully developed. The reason he wants to kill everybody is the loss of maria, then later realizes that is simply the opposite of anything she would want.

  • @RedX03
    @RedX03 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    It’s simple, María is the key to shadows pain and his future arc,it’s like spider man without the death of uncle ben

    • @Andythesonicfan
      @Andythesonicfan หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mcu didn’t have uncle Ben die. What are your thoughts on that? I agree with you though

    • @RedX03
      @RedX03 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Andythesonicfan ehh mcu has always been finicky with lore I mean it’s Disney we’re talking about

  • @CassiusStelar
    @CassiusStelar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    The reason people want to see maria die is because sega has fucked up shadow's characterization so much and so often since 2005 that acknowledging it makes us contract rabies

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@CassiusStelar yeah exactly

  • @akdreamer6497
    @akdreamer6497 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    Maria can be in the Unleashed style, it totally works. You barely even have to change how she looks, since she's already depicted pretty cartoonishly in Adventure 2 and Shadow the Hedgehog.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      exactly bro, just as long as the story beats carry weight ‼️

    • @zeehero7280
      @zeehero7280 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      she looked like a creepy marionette in SA2 🤣

    • @caramelcandys
      @caramelcandys 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@zeehero7280still better than the pigtailed girl in sa2 lets be real

    • @abrahamambriz892
      @abrahamambriz892 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The Sonadow Dark Beginnings anime artstyle also works.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@abrahamambriz892 BANGER art style right there

  • @jellyface401
    @jellyface401 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Wow! I tought I was the only one excited. I told my brother once they announce that maria would appear: We are watching it first week of release. There is going to be Mario and Edgy the Edgehog and Robotnik.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jellyface401 i’m there DAY ONE

  • @DoseOfRandom137
    @DoseOfRandom137 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Unrelated but I love how Eggman, Tails and Gamma gameplay for Sa1 and 2 is just
    violently throw yourself around the room and then everything just f*cking explodes

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DoseOfRandom137 peak gaming

  • @wakkaseta8351
    @wakkaseta8351 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Greetings from the future

  • @Echidnawarrior
    @Echidnawarrior หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Simple,without maria we wont have one of the best games to exist

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sa2….oh god please not shadow the hedgehog the game

  • @gamedokter
    @gamedokter หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    To quote the new Sonic Central livestream, "... and now in movie three, Shadow, Maria, GUN, and Gerald Robotnik"

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@gamedokter i’ll be posting a sonic central vid later today :D
      it was actually pretty solid?

    • @gamedokter
      @gamedokter หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ColCuts Yeah, it's clear they actually care about the fans. Or at the very least are doing a lot better of a job pretending they do than other big companies. And seriously, they listed "gun" as a character. That's incredible.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gamedokter LMAOO I WENT BACK AND REWATCHED IT THEY REALLY DO USE GUN AS A CHARACTER

  • @markusturunen7929
    @markusturunen7929 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It's not a celebration of the death of the person, but a celebration of storytelling in the form of hearth heartbreaking story twist that is a real tragedy that is meaningful.

  • @dustinbragg1921
    @dustinbragg1921 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm kinda disappointed Gerrald is still alive.
    It was some seriously dark shit way back when as a kid I saw Maria get flat out capped by a government kill squad, and then later Gerrald's last words while the firing squad prepares and then executes him.
    Maria's death was something that broke both Shadow and Gerrald, and, for all that they overreacted by condemning literally everybody for it, it establishes that the people responsible for killing her absolutely had what Shadow and Gerrald planned to do coming for them.

  • @markanderson7236
    @markanderson7236 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think this is an appropriate thumbnail for seeing that character design for the first time in a decade.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@markanderson7236 i threw this together in like 7 minutes 😭 thank you tho

  • @nerdicwarrior
    @nerdicwarrior หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I'm just going to be frank. I don't think they need to actually show Maria getting shot.
    In fact, I feel the Project Shadow fan film handled it pretty well enough. You have the build up to it where Shadow is in the escape capsule pleading with Maria while the GUN soldier has her at gunpoint ordering her to step away from the control panel before it shows the gun being fired folled by a cut to Shadow's reaction. It's a case of showing just enough to get the point across.
    I think that's how Movie 3 should handle it.

    • @sarahseibert9253
      @sarahseibert9253 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed.
      I love the way Project Shadow handled it

  • @jjtheenton
    @jjtheenton 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Your life is gonna be Paramount's.

  • @hiddenflare6169
    @hiddenflare6169 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    May be some should pretend to be a bit more sad at the movies so the kids know it’s sad… Even if we are cheering on the inside. Kids do learn from their elders after all.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@hiddenflare6169 oh god i never thought of the repercussions this will have on the youth 😭😭

  • @JaidynReiman
    @JaidynReiman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I just always feel like I want Maria to be able to come back/be saved in some way. I wouldn't be against the film doing this. She can be dead but I have no problem if they come up with some way for her to be brought back to give Shadow some hope.
    As it stands, without Amy or Rouge in the films there's not much benefit for Shadow in the films. At least Shadow in the games has Rouge who eventually became a close friend to him. I guess you could argue the original SA2 ending could potentially be him accepting his fate and going on to be with Maria in whatever afterlife exists in the Sonic universe (which isn't really established).
    However, there's no way the film is going to kill Shadow. And odds are we won't get Amy or Rouge either. So Shadow's basically just going to be all alone by the end. I know how some modern entries portray edgy Shadow who hates friends (Sonic Boom), but that's not game Shadow at all. He has a small, close knit group of friends (Rouge and Omega). So personally, I feel like if they don't bring in Rouge or Amy into the film, they should instead have Maria come back in _some way_ at the end so Shadow has someone to act as a companion.
    Regardless, Maria has to either die or at least be in a coma (with Gerald probably placing her in a pod to preserve her) in order to play out Shadow's story as intended.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I love the freezing maria in a pod idea- showing shadow that she’s not dead- but also can’t come back quite yet-
      As for Shadow in the movie… maybe i’ll make another video on this, BUT I entirely believe that Movie3 will end with shadow “dying”, and then teaser credit will show he’s alive- and i believe much like the games- we’re going to get a solo shadow movie (which would make more sense to introduce rouge at that point, rather than bloat movie3- have rouge aid shadow in his journey of finding out whether or not he’s a clone and where he is in the side of good or evil)
      Also thanks for the comment!

    • @aidenatorx99
      @aidenatorx99 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ColCutsTo be honest, if they’re gonna kill off Shadow at the end, I’d want him to be stay dead. He might be my favourite character but too many movies have fake out deaths these days so if they do it, I’d rather they stick to it. It would make his sacrifice more impactful I think. If they don’t, I’m not gonna cry about it though.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@aidenatorx99 i also agree with that! it’d be nice to have movie 3 be the end of this story and shadow get a conclusion… but i don’t think Hollywood knows how to not milk a franchise…

    • @aidenatorx99
      @aidenatorx99 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ColCuts If Paramount higher ups have a lick of sense, they’d see what happened with Disney milking the crap outta Marvel, how bad that’s turned out and think “Maybe we shouldn’t do that”
      It wouldn’t surprise me if the writers wanted to permanently kill off Shadow but are forced not to because the Big Cheeses said “nah we want more merchandise money”
      I’m a very logical person so in my mind, that makes sense but corporate suits, I highly doubt it.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@aidenatorx99 this is the unfortunate reality i’m afraid…

  • @whtevercomesfrst
    @whtevercomesfrst 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Ill have you know that baldy mcnose hair is the funniest joke in the history of jokes in mankind ever written or made ever and nothing can top it

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@whtevercomesfrst /srs

  • @lil-_-zoom
    @lil-_-zoom หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Paramount cap Maria on screen and my life is yours😂😂😂 omg that’s crazy

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lil-_-zoom i think my life is there’s 😭

  • @3Guys1Video
    @3Guys1Video หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I can’t wait to see the Sonic 3 audience reaction video and hear people cheer at the Maria scene

  • @cloudshines812
    @cloudshines812 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Maria Robotnik 🤝 Aeris Gainsbrough
    Female characters that are tragically killed but the fanbase cheers 😂

  • @YoMamaBih
    @YoMamaBih หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    7:05 was just devious 💀💀

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      standing on biness

  • @lelouche25
    @lelouche25 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got the best reaction when I said "I can't to see the Feds kill a child, sonic 3 gonna be wild."
    "Yo wdf," was one of my favorite.

  • @GiovanniKody100
    @GiovanniKody100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    C’mon, guys. What did Maria ever do to you?

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      the flames of disaster!

    • @Old_Sport_2016
      @Old_Sport_2016 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​I thought that was Mephiles

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Old_Sport_2016 haha- yeah! but it’s a bit twitter meme rn- the knuckles show has a guy just straight up say “the flames of disaster!”

    • @TorrentialStardust
      @TorrentialStardust 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      She tries too hard

    • @Rusty_Spy
      @Rusty_Spy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      She was born 😈

  • @guilherme.ramosmos
    @guilherme.ramosmos หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Feel bad for maria, she only exist for shadow's backstory and nothing more, hope they make more with her before taking her out 😔

  • @matheussanthiago9685
    @matheussanthiago9685 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    RIP Mario you were a real one 😔🙏

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matheussanthiago9685 mama mia✊😔

  • @noahbanana7526
    @noahbanana7526 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I understand its an important part of Shadow's story but all the people who are going to cheer and clap in the theater if she gets shot are so annoying.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      EXACTLY!!!

    • @Andythesonicfan
      @Andythesonicfan หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Every single time we saw Maria get shot at the sonic symphony the other day, people cheered loudly. It’s annoying

  • @honeybeebo
    @honeybeebo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i wish we had more insight into who she is as an individual character (more than just a tragic means to fleshing out who Shadow is, even if she ultimately exists to die) and the happy moments she had with Shadow. that would make her death even more heartbreaking for the audience who could empathize more with Shadow. we need to see how devastating this loss is for him by setting up how much she meant to him, more than just him reminiscing and short glimpses of her smiling or whatever. we get the gist of all that in canon so far, but i think it can be fleshed out more. of course she’s tied to Shadow, but i wish people (writers and audience) cared more about her than just that or at least the sad part of that. though it kind of is impossible to ignore that tragicness, as soon as you see her you know her fate. playing into that tragicness by contrasting it with her happiness would make the loss not just a plot device

    • @honeybeebo
      @honeybeebo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      but i also think her being a “mysterious” force of love that was ripped away with no reason (no good reason) is also cool, but they’ve shown too much of her to go the “we’ll never know her because she’s only in Shadow’s memories now” route. if we want a tragic but satisfying end for her, we first need an actual character to feel for

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@honeybeebo you’re actually so right, her character needs more…character!
      doing that would absolutely make shadows storyline carry more weight

    • @honeybeebo
      @honeybeebo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ColCuts the dude needs some actual content to mourn lol

  • @Ratscallion_exe
    @Ratscallion_exe หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In this year alone...
    **We are going to witness Maria getting OFF-edd in Manga, Film & Shadow Generations Game if SEGA feels generous**
    I would have made a Netflix Adaptation joke... but Knuckles Series/Movie already beaten Devil Trigger into himself, just to tell '06 Blaze "she wouldn't get how to **Live** with it"
    ...And then getting the hell beaten out of him by Keanu Reeves.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      W year

    • @Ratscallion_exe
      @Ratscallion_exe หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @ColCuts Feels weird talking about Sega doing good while.... Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard-King have stagnated with CoD, Nintendo are making a patent lawsuit & lackluster pokemon quality, Sony screwed up with Helldivers 2 & Concord, Square Enix is yet to release something else than mobile games & steam ports, and EA hasn't made a new Battlefield yet....
      *_[Add other notable events here]_*
      Look... all I saying
      Sega with development of Pirate Majima, Alright IDW comics, Sonic x Shadow Generations, Sonic Movie 3 + Jet Set Radio + Crazy Taxi (+ Others)...
      **...Sega is sailing into 2024 with a industry that went from **_AAA_** to AHHHHHHHHH manoeuvring around napalm on the surface of water & the ship of Concord-ia shipwrecked, with industry-wide difficulty spike to the Beaches of Normandy, to get the money!**
      **...And I'm not sure when or how things have escalated to Sega revival for releases other than Yakuza or Persona games...**
      *_*Payday 2 - On The Road, starts playing*_*

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Ratscallion_exe we’ve entered the wrong timeline- and just so ya know, i’m gonna have a video about playstation out in a day or two :D
      long live sega tho

  • @entityglitch8429
    @entityglitch8429 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Can't wait for Eggman to make his announcement in the movie

  • @breezy7836
    @breezy7836 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The Trigga man 👧🔫

  • @setsers1
    @setsers1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sometimes, i feel like this fanbase is cooked.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      COOKED

  • @IJNAoba9-25-26
    @IJNAoba9-25-26 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Considering Shadow is voiced by Keanu Reeves in the live action, I can make this comparison.
    Maria is basically John wick's dog in the Sonic universe.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IJNAoba9-25-26 this is canon now

  • @gottesurteil3201
    @gottesurteil3201 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No one is saying we need to watch her die. Heck if they can properly explain shadows motives without looking her that's fine and dandy. We love the Maria death because she represents something beautiful, frail, yet full of life. We love that she represents a time when Shadow loved something innocent and helpless, which makes us like him. When she dies we sympathize with him even if we don't share his hated of humanity.
    It's a shame that since Gerald seems to be alive we may not get my favorite line from him in the game: "all of you ungrateful humans, who took everything away from me, will feel my loss and despair." Because that line also reflects how Shadow felt.

  • @ReticularTunic7
    @ReticularTunic7 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think it’s weird how 4Kids censored Maria’s death in Sonic X when other cartoon channels show Spider Man’s Uncle Ben death along with Batmans Parents death was shown or mentioned in their cartoon incarnation. Heck, Robins parents were killed in The Batman 2004 cartoon but was tones down by just not showing them plummet to their death on screen.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      you know i actually never thought about it like that- but yeah that actually is kinda weird

  • @kowabonga3552
    @kowabonga3552 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Because FOC humans in Sonic games, except Eggman, that's why. 😂

  • @TB26
    @TB26 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This made me think of something.........is Shadow Batman?

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TB26 FANART NOWWWWWW

    • @foxtrap86flame
      @foxtrap86flame 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am all of me. I am the ultimate vengeance. I am Batman.

    • @andrewgreeb916
      @andrewgreeb916 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      His 2006 iteration was definitely Batman like

    • @mk056
      @mk056 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He is now

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mk056 holy shit you’re right

  • @lks19
    @lks19 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    But in the Sonic 3 trailer, Gerald is alive. They had only one job, and they messed up.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lks19 may we both huff copium that we atleast get some nods to SA2

    • @RingsRhythm
      @RingsRhythm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      To be honest I think Gerald being alive might work in this story, the reason on why they probably brought him back to life it’s to avoid the extremely dark tones of his death like ain’t no way they gonna show a military execution in a children’s movie 💀 the way I can imagine him die it’s probably in the end if he is an antagonist (he probably is)

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RingsRhythm yeah your spitting facts

    • @RingsRhythm
      @RingsRhythm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ColCuts Ngl I think possibly there will be some more characters that might die in the movie (1# Maria ☠️☠️☠️☠️ no questions asked, 2# Between Gerald And Tom (Maybe Both ? The death of Gerald might serve as character development for eggman and shadow but with Tom it’s probably for sonic since these movies were concentrated on his character development….this movie implies that he has grown so I mean if they wanna finalize his character I think Tom’s death will do the job.) 3# Shadow, it’s highly unlikely that he dies but if paramount wants to do more stuff from SA2 to the movie I’m sure it’s a fake out for the fourth movie unless if they got the balls to kill off shadow (HIGHLY UNLIKELY)

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RingsRhythm for sure fake out shadow death- and a shadow movie spinoff/
      i want tom to die- but i don’t know if they got that dog in them

  • @clownbunniez
    @clownbunniez หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    oh thanks man I was literally just wondering about this

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@clownbunniez no problem man

  • @s.r.8260
    @s.r.8260 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It can be implied, we don't need a scene of it

  • @projectmessiah
    @projectmessiah 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    This is just kinda random... I get the idea but a child getting shot doesn't automatically make a story better, Marias fate is a solid part of the Adventure 2 narrative because it plays into Shadows backstory and motivations, not because its serious. Im all for edgy Sonic but there are better things to be cheering for.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      agree! the cheering is crazy! for me, as long as they are even acknowledging more serious story beats like this, i’m happy. i don’t want edgy sonic- just for sonic to not be afraid to takes itself more seriously at times:D

  • @KSTheGOAT14
    @KSTheGOAT14 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I’ve come to make an announcement

    • @EmileAnimation
      @EmileAnimation 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shadow the hedgehog is a ##### ass mother ######

  • @LiveAndLearned
    @LiveAndLearned หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ngl my favriote serious sonic game is the shadow game. I love it so mutch

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LiveAndLearned holy shit me too, i dead ass have never heard anyone with the same take

  • @tencents6
    @tencents6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a thought today. Maybe the reason that Maria's death is cheered is because it's something no one would ever do in story telling. I mean think about it. Maria is 12 years old. She has an incurable disease, that's slowly killing her. She's really, really nice. She has blonde hair and blue eyes. She has no superpowers, and she was killed because she was helping Shadow escape the ARK. She was killed because she was doing a good deed. Not to mention she said she hoped she could be cured in time to see the world she loves so much. Any other writer would be too scared to kill off Maria. She'd in some way survive, and Shadow would see her again in a future game having start a family, having a house, and being able to control her NIDS enough that it doesn't take a toll on her. However, SA2 grew a pair, trusted it's audience, showed the scene and flat out says, "MARIA FLIPPING DIES!!!! SLOWLY!!!!! AND PAINFULLY!!!!!" So yeah, it's like you said. Sonic showed an adult situation not by adding nudity, bad language, or unnecessary violence, but by simply showing the audience bad things happen to all people. Even if they are sick, pretty, good, young, and defenseless. People like that can still die unfairly.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      sonic stories that take themselves seriously…kinda goated

  • @Sjono
    @Sjono หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aerith: “And I thought I had it rough.”
    Gwen Stacy: “Tell me about it.”

  • @Barakon
    @Barakon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The reason you got what you wanted was because you infiltrated the corporation behind your art piece & have the creators at your side.
    It’s still Par La Rêve, Pour La rêve, just a tad mmmmm riskier due to the involvement of corporations.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Barakon c'est la vie

  • @BonkHazard
    @BonkHazard หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always assumed they didn't want a Shadow 06 to happen. We all know how Sonic 06 went down.

  • @RaidenB
    @RaidenB 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Its Shadow's canon event

    • @vedrounsipek7369
      @vedrounsipek7369 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes! Maria is a mistake in this world

    • @foxtrap86flame
      @foxtrap86flame 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So then what's Boom Shadow's origin story?

    • @Andythesonicfan
      @Andythesonicfan หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@foxtrap86flameboom is a comedy and not meant to be taken seriously

    • @foxtrap86flame
      @foxtrap86flame หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Andythesonicfan I think you forget that Boom Shadow nearly destroyed the world by having the two Eggman’s hidden when both can’t coexist in the same universe less the world be destroyed and everything with it.

    • @Andythesonicfan
      @Andythesonicfan หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@foxtrap86flame fair point

  • @Sonicfan2000-j9q
    @Sonicfan2000-j9q หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm actually more curious how maria's death is gonna be in sonic the hedgehog 3 2024 movie cuz it was a sad moment.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sonicfan2000-j9q “he’s right behind me isn’t he?”- maria standing in front of a gun agent

  • @alanbareiro6806
    @alanbareiro6806 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The Dark Era of Sonic had devastating effects on the mental health of Zoomer Sonic fans.

    • @yrooxrksvi7142
      @yrooxrksvi7142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's rich coming from the likes of you.....And of course you use the term "Dark Age" unironically

    • @alanbareiro6806
      @alanbareiro6806 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@yrooxrksvi7142 It's not that serious... I made this comment as a joke actually. Although, would you care explaining the thing you just wrote?

  • @TheNightshadePrince
    @TheNightshadePrince หลายเดือนก่อน

    They better give her the Anastasia treatment where they bring her back as an adult and was like yeah I was in hiding. :)

    • @Andythesonicfan
      @Andythesonicfan หลายเดือนก่อน

      Her dying is an important part of shadows character. He needs to learn to live without her

    • @TheNightshadePrince
      @TheNightshadePrince หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Andythesonicfan you could have that story line and have her cryogenically frozen for 90 years, presumed dead but saved until she can be healed of her injury after medical advances.

  • @TTG-37
    @TTG-37 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sega didn’t see the realistic and mature themes as a bad thing, they just got new writers and wanted to target towards kids so they can get more fans.
    The Black Knight and Unleashed story hate is crazy

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TTG-37 not hate- those games are actually very charming! i personally just like seeing sonic in SA2 type environments

    • @TTG-37
      @TTG-37 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ColCuts oh ok

  • @TheAverageLifeForm
    @TheAverageLifeForm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Banger video but also what is the music towards the end of the video? I swear I hear it everywhere
    Edit: hold up this was posted two months ago…

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheAverageLifeForm Thank you for the support! and the music is “his world (orchestra version from sonic 06)”
      and yeah 2 months ago! but it took off outta nowhere

    • @TheAverageLifeForm
      @TheAverageLifeForm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ColCuts Thanks!

  • @aidan2138
    @aidan2138 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In shadow the hedgehog I remember that gun was the one who killed maria so i gʻod the dark ending

  • @baylordiamond8819
    @baylordiamond8819 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    7:13 that was a perfectly good line. WTF U on?

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i can’t lie i catch myself saying “im an optimist but also a realist” wayyyy to much 😭

    • @baylordiamond8819
      @baylordiamond8819 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ColCuts i meant "no copyright law" thats one of the legit good moments in colors script.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ aii that’s ones actually kinda funny i’ll give it you ya

  • @son-of-1810
    @son-of-1810 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If we see Sonic around humans again in the next main line game, they’ll more than likely have a more anime look to them like Sage did in Frontiers. Which would make sense considering that they want to appeal to Japan more.
    Also I didn’t hate it, but I never really liked Sonic in a human world with Pixar looking humans. Always felt kinda bland to me, even as a kid

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah even as a kid i didn’t like the unleashed style- but thought it was sick when sonic would be around real humans in 06 or adventure 1&2.
      i’d take a chibi style but as long as its not like unleashed

  • @aetherblackbolt1301
    @aetherblackbolt1301 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fans in their 20s and 30s cheering that their childhood is being respected fail to recognise that they are ruining future generations from experiencing the same tragedy and heartfelt storytelling. Feel free to cheer in private or online but for the love of storytelling please pretend to be sad in the theatres 😭

  • @mrsamuel5572
    @mrsamuel5572 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The thing is,why Gerald Robotnik alive??

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      trust😤

    • @xdragoonzero0
      @xdragoonzero0 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We don't know the full context of the scene, but I imagine he's alive to facilitate him being the villain. Shadow isn't himself a villain so they instead have him work with Gerald to get revenge for what happened. Gerald eventually reveals he's going to destroy everyone on earth, causing Shadow to switch sides to stop him.
      This is of course assuming he's actually alive. Eggman seems surprised to see him so he could've thought he was dead, but it could also be a hallucination or like a cyborg with a Gerald AI.
      I am hoping Gerald being included does mean they're going with an adaptation ARK plot. Not sure if they'll blow up half of the moon but that'd be cool to see.

  • @17jacoyne
    @17jacoyne หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i just wanna say that the fact that people are begging to see maria's die in the third sonic movie and are saying they and are gonna cheer when it happens is a prime example of why the sonic the hedgehog fandom is up there with star wars, Steven universe and my hero academia of being a pathetic and disgusting fandom! as if the erotic fan fictions weren't bad enough XP
    P.S. i understand maria's death is a vial part of shadows origin story but the meme's are getting repetitive and that's the joke with my comment

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@17jacoyne yeahhhhh…. definitely hard to admit being a fan at times😭

  • @jennypagan6120
    @jennypagan6120 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm actually really excited for sonadow generations I wonder if orbot and cubot are gonna be in that game.. technically if they are in the game (shadow half) it'd be the first time they even heard of professor Gerald Maria and black doom that would be really interesting

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jennypagan6120 never thought about that- i’m interested to see now

    • @jennypagan6120
      @jennypagan6120 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ColCuts right!? That would be so interesting to see their reactions to shadows backstory and what happened to Maria and Gerald! They HAVE to include this! I would LOVE to see their reactions! Especially since they weren't in frontiers

    • @jennypagan6120
      @jennypagan6120 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ColCuts also if they bring sage back somehow (they don't have to do it in this game maybe they can do it in the sequal to frontiers) they have to include a scene of sage meeting orbot and cubot that would be ADORABLE!

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jennypagan6120 the children unite!

    • @yrooxrksvi7142
      @yrooxrksvi7142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@jennypagan6120GOD NO PLEASE NO NO NO. Why TF would you want these useless unfunny pathetic excuses dragged into a serious story ?

  • @ThiccFurryBoi34
    @ThiccFurryBoi34 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I just wanna see it cause i don’t wanna see it be censored in future remakes like making it pg13 and actually push it to see how dark they can go

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      exactly, like let the series take itself seriously again!!

  • @andrewgreeb916
    @andrewgreeb916 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We get Maria's death is tragic, but our favorite edgehog, is best in the original iteration, and for that maria has to die.

  • @joegomez5463
    @joegomez5463 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I actually don't care for Maria tbh.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@joegomez5463 yeah that’s fair actually

  • @fwobebe5164
    @fwobebe5164 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👏👏👏

    • @fwobebe5164
      @fwobebe5164 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🍻🥳🎉🎊🪅🎆
      👁👄👁

  • @eggandfriends3853
    @eggandfriends3853 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello people 👋

  • @3DperspectiveJS
    @3DperspectiveJS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It’s no use!

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This’ll end it!!

  • @rongabrielperalta5902
    @rongabrielperalta5902 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh brother..i have news for you..

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rongabrielperalta5902 give it to me straight doc

  • @ريانالغامدي-ز1ف
    @ريانالغامدي-ز1ف หลายเดือนก่อน

    So... it's a meme

  • @SonicZuki
    @SonicZuki 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This proofs Sonic fans are mental getting hype over someone getting killed who is 12 years old makes the series interesting some how makes me feel sorry for this community Lowkey there other ways to make Sonic dark besides having a 12 year old getting shot

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@SonicZuki real as hell brother- i get why people are excited but i better not have people clapping in my theater when this happens😭
      highkey many other ways to include serious story beats- hope we see more of such- and thanks for the comment :)

    • @zeehero7280
      @zeehero7280 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      She gets shot because thats whats established happening. It's not hard to understand. People arent cheering because she gets shot but because it shows respect for pre existing canon.

    • @zeehero7280
      @zeehero7280 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@ColCuts Maria's death is not something to clap over, but the fact they seem to be respecting existing lore at least to a significant degree is something to be happy about.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@zeehero7280 you get it!!

    • @andrewgreeb916
      @andrewgreeb916 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's moreso a return to form they are celebrating, not child murder

  • @VenusKembuan
    @VenusKembuan หลายเดือนก่อน

    The society is fuck up to the point where they celebrate when some girl DEATH. I am not a sonic fan or even a ps gamer, but the fact that maria death celebration recommended is so piss*ng me off about the truth of this stupid society

  • @heyguysxd
    @heyguysxd หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still pretty messed up.

  • @somechupacabrawithinternet8866
    @somechupacabrawithinternet8866 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what the hell is wrong with people? ami the only one with humanity? i'm not even human

  • @IslamHany-dg6xi
    @IslamHany-dg6xi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    So you chear at the death of a kid? The fandom is wild💀

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      not the worst thing sonic fans have done tbh

    • @santiagoindisguise7289
      @santiagoindisguise7289 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She's lovely, but she gotta go.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@santiagoindisguise7289 expeditiously

  • @deatheater810
    @deatheater810 หลายเดือนก่อน

    movie 3 is going to be PG they are not going to show to much

  • @-Nine9-
    @-Nine9- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Yeah sorry but just cuz some weird Sonic fans want to see this doesn't mean it's happening.
    You aren't going to get a PG Hollywood movie with Jim Carry in it showing a child getting shot to death.
    Sonic is cartoony first, that sometimes gets edgy. It was never meant to explore mature themes seriously lol. If you want something that's edge first that sometimes cartoony ask for a DMC movie.

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@-Nine9- 50$ bet

    • @icewingthefox9423
      @icewingthefox9423 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It is literally in the damn trailer

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@icewingthefox9423 talk to em‼️‼️

    • @Handlelesswithme
      @Handlelesswithme หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Now if this was the 90s maybe

  • @themindeclectic9821
    @themindeclectic9821 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This isn't what i expected to be commenting on with this video but 3:58 as someone who has talked multiple people down from suicide there is absolutely nothing wrong with this dialogue. Suicidal people dont need their feelings validated. On the contrary, they need to know that they're making emotionally charged and irrational decisions that could permanently change, or end their lives. You can talk gentler than that, sure, but if you know the person this sort of dialogue is totally fair game.

  • @southerncoastproductions7587
    @southerncoastproductions7587 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nothing is ok about this bs.

  • @SonicRusD
    @SonicRusD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cuz woman

  • @abstractmuffin7129
    @abstractmuffin7129 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    easy, the original level sucked ass and was difficult as shit as a kid, so when maria dies, its the end of the level, and my autistic sonic brain gets FLUSHED with dopamine, so every time maria dies, i get a surge of dopamine

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@abstractmuffin7129 you’re actually real as hell for this

    • @abstractmuffin7129
      @abstractmuffin7129 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      :)

  • @Lime-enjoyer
    @Lime-enjoyer หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    6:43 forgot what the video was about until this part

    • @ColCuts
      @ColCuts  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Lime-enjoyer LMFAOO- a lot of exposition was needed, i’m still learning the ropes 😭