What if Operation Ivy Stayed Together?: A Punk Rock Theory

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    What if Operation Ivy Stayed Together?: A Punk Rock Theory
    Operation Ivy was an American punk rock band from Berkeley, California, formed in May 1987. The band was stylistically important, as one of the first bands to mix the elements of hardcore punk and ska into a new amalgam called ska punk.
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  • @danframpt0n
    @danframpt0n  ปีที่แล้ว +7

    hey hi hello. thanks for watching. now that's sweetheart behavior.

    • @MudShark6969
      @MudShark6969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your time line is way off.
      Not sure how you came up with this assessment of Op Ivy but, your dates are completely incorrect.

    • @MudShark6969
      @MudShark6969 ปีที่แล้ว

      Other than that, I do enjoy watching your videos.

    • @slashismyhommie8182
      @slashismyhommie8182 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meh, I don't care for the spiderverse alternate timeline spitballing.
      I want more modern hardcore band analysis like you did several months ago. We are also in an actual hardcore revival period, a lot of movers and shakers going on.
      I won't list them, cause I presume you, Dan Frampt0n would be knowledgeable enough to do so.
      Still like the video and smacked the like button. But please ditch this alternate universe timeline format, it's lame.

  • @johnnybiggs1419
    @johnnybiggs1419 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Operation Ivy was so good that can never be duplicated and perfect that they stopped when they did. I have met three out of the four members of Operation Ivy and Tim is a sweetheart Matt is a little reclusive and not as approachable, but still nice by Jessie. Michaels is an absolute saint and true to his values and has corresponded with me for over 15 years almost like a sponsor, I was having a hard time in my life and he listen to my story and gave me words of encouragement. He didn’t have to do anything but he did add that is the coolest thing that has happened. I bought some art from him to give to my wife for her birthday this year and it didn’t get here on time and he shipped me an extra poetry book and two signed prints to make up for the delay, which was totally rad. I have a piece of Operation Ivy on my wall and the extra print I am gifting to raffle to help the homeless community in the Portland, Oregon area. And that is the type of person that Jesse is and inspires me to want to do something great and help out my area. I wish Operation Ivy would tour. I wish I could see them. I wish that they would make music but I understand why they don’t. It’s hard to duplicate the greatest album ever made in my opinion.

  • @leahflower9924
    @leahflower9924 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was fun trying to sing along and spell caution

  • @MrProofMan
    @MrProofMan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They probably would’ve signed to Epitaph and had a trajectory like Rancid.

    • @danframpt0n
      @danframpt0n  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're Probably right, but that's a boring video lol

  • @elihyland4781
    @elihyland4781 ปีที่แล้ว

    tell me Bieber doesnt look exactly like Jesse. some get this biopic rolling. i need it

  • @lipittysplit8722
    @lipittysplit8722 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Operation ivy is awesome and Jesse Michaels is one of my favorite singers ever. I really like the fact he only comes around every 10 years with something new. It makes you miss him more so everything he puts out is really enjoyable.

  • @RoryLynott
    @RoryLynott 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best thing that Op Ivy ever did was to split.

  • @SLG52
    @SLG52 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They were HUGE in the bay area and broke up BEFORE the album release.

  • @MFlash05
    @MFlash05 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Been watching your videos for a few weeks. This is my fav so far! Do more alternate universe stuff! What if blink never ditched Scott and signed to Epitaph instead of MCA?

  • @pinksnot818
    @pinksnot818 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bizarro op Ivy

  • @rosecox8115
    @rosecox8115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A TH-cam video about my favorite band? How cool. Nice to find someone who knows what real punk rock is.

  • @deadbeats4894
    @deadbeats4894 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not to mention NOFX probably wouldn't exist. Mike mentioned in Hepatitis Bathtub he wanted to quit nofx to be a roadie for Op Ivy.

  • @justinlarsen2281
    @justinlarsen2281 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm so glad they didn't! I'm a huge fan of 1 and done groups. Let's be honest most groups have 1 good album in them if they're lucky

    • @alallen6670
      @alallen6670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you're right. If the Muses only sing through you once or twice, that's just the way it is, move on and live with it.

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Man, I’m torn between wanting them to continue but also find that the reason why they are so special.

    • @leahflower9924
      @leahflower9924 ปีที่แล้ว

      Green days cover of knowledge was so weak they took all the edge out of it

  • @menta1case182
    @menta1case182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man , what could have been! I would love to visit this alternate universe but I wouldn't wanna live there.

  • @NVTdrums
    @NVTdrums ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, what the hell? That was such a fun ride!

  • @alifae2021
    @alifae2021 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙂

  • @toddpacker4683
    @toddpacker4683 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet. No other youtuber talks about these bands

  • @royjameson2097
    @royjameson2097 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dunno I feel like if Op Ivy made it huge there would become peace on Earth

  • @skaustin_
    @skaustin_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brodie never left Australia!!? Nuuuuuuu. Well I guess Tim woulda never got his hands on her so that'da been better. Op ivy's album lives in infamy in my head forever. One of my top three favorite albums of all times hands down. Good video Dan. Keep them coming fam! 🤘🏼🤘🏼❤️❤️ Hey btw where the fuk is munchie dude???

    • @danframpt0n
      @danframpt0n  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, he's retired and coincidentally vacationing in Australia

    • @skaustin_
      @skaustin_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danframpt0n that rat bastard! Well glad he's living his best life lol

  • @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
    @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 ปีที่แล้ว

    This matches the irl timeline for Kyuss/QOTSA perfectly lel

  • @davidwalker8353
    @davidwalker8353 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Dan your content has been heaps better the last couple of months. Before I'd watch a few an like them, now I watch the new frampt0n vid as soon as it's out. Good job man

  • @AlexHellcat
    @AlexHellcat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    interesting view on this alternate universe, dan. would have billie joe and tim still write rancid's "radio" together in that timline?

    • @danframpt0n
      @danframpt0n  ปีที่แล้ว

      lol good question. But no, absolutely not

    • @AlexHellcat
      @AlexHellcat ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danframpt0n haha. yeah but I think billie joe still would be opivy's biggest fan. another thing in this theory would be cool if barker gets kicked out of the band and becomes a trashman again (what he deserves). and scott raynor rejoins blink. you can use that in a future episode of "a punk rock theory: blink 182"

    • @danframpt0n
      @danframpt0n  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not a bad idea at all

  • @shanesmith2853
    @shanesmith2853 ปีที่แล้ว

    This would be great if it weren't' for all the Travis Barker. Sure, he's an amazing drummer ,but, fuck that guy. Also, just wanted to say that The Heart Attacks were the best band ever signed to Hellcat. Too bad they didn't stick around longer.🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞

  • @HawaiiSamurai567
    @HawaiiSamurai567 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video dude ! Hi from France !

  • @briantomcollins
    @briantomcollins ปีที่แล้ว

    What a legendary band for only releasing 1 album. The US's version of the Sex Pistols, but better. I thoroughly enjoyed this scenerio. Friggin good stuff...

    • @leahflower9924
      @leahflower9924 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were trying to be like the clash not the pistols

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fnck, I wish I wasn’t 2 years old when they were on tour.

  • @TheBlakeEverhart
    @TheBlakeEverhart ปีที่แล้ว

    As fun and fantastical as this is, damn, it realy coulda gone down that way 😯

  • @dollyfarton666
    @dollyfarton666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i’d take RANCID over opiv. but yes no duh them breaking up would be the dopest

  • @alallen6670
    @alallen6670 ปีที่แล้ว

    This boils down to two questions:
    A.) would Tim Armstrong have done a better job than Billy Armstrong in selling out to a media company that destroyed their hometown scene and bankrupted Lookout! Records?
    B.)would Tim Armstrong look better than Billy Armstrong does in his swimming pool filled with diamonds and gold?

  • @JAWS_164
    @JAWS_164 ปีที่แล้ว

    Op Ivy is Awesome they would’ve Made it if they didn’t break up I would see them

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Op Ivy will always be my favorite ❤️

  • @douglasmote7453
    @douglasmote7453 ปีที่แล้ว

    If they would have stayed together they would have gotten bigger and their would have been way more crappy ska pop punk bands . My opinion.

  • @wdwmainline
    @wdwmainline ปีที่แล้ว

    Yikes. So after all the popularity, Tim ruins music by signing artists of some of the worst music on earth? I'm so glad we have the timeline we have now, Also, would Blink even have been a thing if Green Day fizzled out at Gilman? Doubtful. Absolutely fun theory though. I can't wait to see what you come up with next.

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hahah, man, I didn’t realize how far back Travis Barkers clout chasing started,

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They got 💯 of my approval

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What! 38 Grammies?? 👵🏼 x38! That’s wild I didn’t know that

  • @DanPantzig
    @DanPantzig ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OpIvy fan fiction...huh...

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ugh lil pump smh 🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @guyincognito143
    @guyincognito143 ปีที่แล้ว

    They would still suck.