I can honestly say, without any reservation, if Hajimoto says it's so, you can bank on it. Hajimoto is one of only five shooting sports personnel whose facts I completely trust.
This is the absolute best video I've ever seen explaining the sweet spot in a power curve. BRAVO! This is an excellent air rifle. I agree 100% on this being the best way into a pcp. I was amazed how accurate this rifle is. I like that Umarex didn't bundle a scope. That way the buyer can choose exactly what size and price scope he wishes to use, without paying extra for something he may put in the closet and never use. Excellent review brother. 🎯
Best most comprehensive review I have ever watched. I will be testing this weekend with my Origin based on your testing. Thank you so much for the time & & effort to put this info out.
I just purchased this package. Should arrive tomorrow. I'm extremely excited to see how consistent this thing is going to be. I have ever confidence it will exceed my needs based on this review. Thank you for being just so above and beyond with your information gathering. I'd wager to say you surpassed the manufacturer in their marketing. Honestly, they should pay you. Lol
Loved the way you broke down the data on pressure vs. velocity, etc. (Have heard this refered to but didn't really "get it" till now!) :) I also like the way you show the shooting data - AND the talking chrony! ;)
Great review of this gun; now on my must buy list. For an unregulated gun it's a winner. I am subscribing because your evaluation s are VERY thorough- good work.
I Got Mine In March Of 2021. Probably One The Best .22 PCPs I've Shot or Owned. I Put A Barska 3-12x40 AO Airgun Scope On It And It's Really Accurate and Powerful. Nice Review Also.
Very informative! Thank you. I’ve been an air gun enthusiast for 40 years. I’ve owned all kinds including a RWS model 52. I’ve been wanting to jump into PCP for awhile now, but the cost was a turn off. I bought the Origin last month and I love it! I’ve had to repair my pump three times in that time though. I wished there was a hand pump repair/rebuild video as informative. The schematics in the manual is very difficult for old eyes.
is the problem having to change orings . i lubricate orings with plumbers and electricians pure silicone grease .i get this at lowes or home depot ,much much much cheaper than buying from other places ,under 5 dollars a piece !!!! . i would look into talking to the experts .Is Viton better than nitrile? General Suitability: Viton® is best suited for diverse sealing jobs that require high temperature and chemical resistance. ... This makes Viton® far superior to Nitrile in these regards. They are also designed to resist most oils and lubricants, more importantly petroleum-based lubricants. i have noticed the blackish residue that orings produce .in time ,the more residue comes off the less material you have left on the oring right ? . Viton® is the superior choice for high temperatures. Viton® standard compounds can withstand temperatures up to 446℉, while Buna o-rings can only handle up to 257℉. ALSO IF WONDERING ,What is the difference between black O rings and green O rings? Difference between black o rings and green o rings Black o rings are primarily neoprene or Nitrile or, in some cases, a mix of the two materials. ... Green o rings are hydrogenated Nitrile, also known as highly saturated Nitrile, or more commonly known as HNBR i wonder if these VITON orings would be better suited for higher pressures and higher heat ? i will get this set up soon ,and i guess when i have to rebuild this pump i will look at all the evidence .i will contact the pros of orings and tell them whats going on with the orings . let me know your input bro !
I REALLY Like the way you presented this. The "sweet spots" in the power curve at certain pressures provide an almost regulated shooting experience. No one else has caught on to this idea.
Hello, this is not a new concept and I cannot take credit for discovering it. Shot string data for unregulated air rifles has been around for hundreds of years, it is just new to folks that are new to PCP's during a time where almost everyone wants a regulated PCP. This video proves that you do not need regulation to obtain consistency. Thanks for the view and comment my friend.
A great video distinguished gentleman. Very grateful for his help with this Origin Umarex issue. I wish it could be in Spanish. Many blessings and health to you and all your family 💯 🏖 🙏
Great review! I actually just got this Air rifle a couple weeks ago and it blew me away as well I have done nothing to it but shoot it and it has been great! smooth to shoot easy to pump up if you need to air it up that way and very accurate. I actually like it so much I plan on buying a second one just to have 2 of them. Umerex is really upping there game for sure.
Way to go Haj. My Gauntlet was one of the first out. After lots of shots and all your upgrades I was very happy with the results. Then I started having an issue with it dumping all the air. I returned it for repair expecting to pay dearly and to my surprise they sent me back a brand new one. Mine was going on two years old at the time so I was very pleased. It shot better than my Bros Marauder! Anyway, lots of kudos to Umarex and you too. But this new one, very impressive, how can I justify paying 1200-1500 for the other big names? ManOman, you have convinced me. Thanks.
Good label for this package. Knowing that this is a Nova Vista in a Umarex package is awesome. The only thing is truly wish is that they would have put this stock or wood on the Avenger but hey...for its features...and the overall cost...just wow! Still an amazing deal in both guns. This maybe possibly, the best deal on the market at the moment for someone stepping into PCPs. What an amazing time to get into high power/super accurate Airguns. Glad to see you putting out more videos again. The airgun community needs you man. We have missed you man. Over the years you have helped us/me out so much. Glad your back. God bless. Happy Thanksgiving man.
That is the best review I have seen. I heard that once you reach the plateau it doesn't matter if you keep putting tension on the hammer spring, the velocity is not going to increase, it waste air instead. Is that true? I wish you review the Benjamin Akela. You did a great review on that Umarex.
Thank you so much for the kind words. Cleaning and maintenance is content that I have always left to others. If for no other reason that there is already so much content out there for that kind of thing but if I receive enough interest, I will offer my take on the practice.
I was on the fence about buying this gun as my first pcp, but now after this solid information I'm going to go for it. I can wait to see your future videos on this gun! As always excellent video!
Thank you @scottguido3144 I appreciate the feed back. The Orgin and the Avenger are in different price catagories so its not REALLY fair but tthe Avenger wins do to it having an user adjustable regulator, having a larger air volume which results in far more shots between fills.
I have been in hot debate over my first PCP rifle. I can say without a doubt, that you decisively nailed down my choice for me !! I thoroughly enjoyed the video. The way you broke everything down, explained every step, and kept it simple made this a joy to watch. When you were grinning and laughing at some of those groups, I was too. It was like I was on the range with you. Thank you for such a fantastic experience, review, and thorough test. I hope I have as much fun with mine as you did with yours. Cheers !!!
I am happy to hear that this content provided you with some usable information to make your decision. I can tell you one thing, your experience will be equal to mine because the Origin delivers a great experience. Thanks for the comment. Please like and share
Thanks for the BEST, MOST HONEST & CONCISE Review that I’ve seen on the Umarex Origin! I recently bought the Origin as my first PCP & I‘m blown away with all that it offers! I totally agree that it has great feel to it . . . Somehow, it just fits! Just wish that your channel didn’t have the “made for kids” TH-cam filter on it . . . I would love to be able to set your channel to receive ALL the videos that you produce. Keep up the GREAT work Brother!
Thanks for the comments. FYI my channel does not have a NOT FOR KIDS general across the board rating, each video needs to be classified if it IS or IS NOT for kids. Are you saying that you want only be notified if KIDS content is published? I'm confused.
@@HajimotoProductions To the contrary! Sorry I stated it wrong. I was referring to notifications. I WANT to be notified when ALL of your videos are released but that choice is restricted by TH-cam somehow. TH-cam does not allow me to be notified about your new videos. Thanks again for all you do for our sport!
Damnit, I already own every "entry level" PCP that's come out in the last 4 or 5 years and many are so accurate that I just don't "need" another, but you really got me thinkin' about this one. I don't have one that has the pre-charged accumulator built into it though, so I guess I could justify it on the strength of that..... crap, life choices are hard!
@@HajimotoProductions it's my first PCP. I was a virgin to precharged pneumatic and now I have a hatsan invader and umarex gauntlet.25 call. I'm addicted to them. Ditching my 22 rimfire because I live in Massachusetts now and it's hard to own one.
You just helped me make my decision already have the flash from Hatsan in .25 been bouncing back and forth on wether or not this or the gauntlet 2 should be my second purchase I love the fact that it comes with the pump , however if you say this is hands down the best on the market in this price range after seeing those expressions you mentioned I'm sold , the origin then the gauntlet another fantastic video thank you .
You will not be unhappy with the Origin. It really is a great all around PCP and because it is non regulated, it is very welcoming to hand pumping. Thanks for the comment.
Wow! Haji thanks for the excellent introduction and analysis on the Origin. Your hard work and time spent breaking air rifles (including the origin) down for us is greatly appreciated. The short range shooting you provided was awesome! Rick Rehm had a little tease into the long range accuracy on Instagram at 120yds and it looked like a 2" group. The Chinese company producing the Origin and Avenger is doing great work for Umarex and Air Venturi! I hope it is beginning of many more successful products!
Thank you for recognizing the work that goes into these videos. I like to concentrate on the foundation or the core of most PCP's that I review as I feel this arms the consumer with what makes it work and is it good at it. This videos is a prime example of how fast a video to turn into 20+ minutes. I do not have enough time to shoot at every distance with every projectile so I look forward to guys like Rick Rehm, Steve Scialli and so many others that fly projectiles for extreme distances and share the results with us all.
Hey Haji, really nice detailed review and break down of this gun. I think this will be a valuable video for introducing new shooters to the world of PCP. Well done.
Excellent explanation on that graph 📊 brother... man you killed it on the range 50 yards looking good Haji !! Them H&N were hole in hole brother...good to see on the set...happy Thanksgiving to you and the fam.🇺🇸👍👍
My dude!!!! Good to see your text on my page! Thank you for the kind words as always my brother, much appreciated. Stay safe and enjoy your family food during this very different Thanksgiving season.
Thank you Haji! I took some notes based off your charts. This is the best breakdown I've seen explaining it all. Really can't thank you enough. It's only been a day, but I'm super happy with my Umarex Origin so far. If anyone is on the fence, BUY IT! It exceeded my expectations.
Hi . I need to say that straight .....This is the best review I saw for several years Sir !!! Everything you named in detail !!!!!!! I wish anyone who do a review do so !! For example , is there a power wheel show us the different power settings at any click/stage !! Is there a regulator adjustment show us and explain and do a shoot count on any power setting !!! This is the only way to review a air gun !!!!! Like you did in this one ! Thank you so much !!!!!!!! Reviews like those keep´s viewers and subscribers HAPPY ❗️Oh, one thing I did not se is what about the shroud ? Are there baffles inside or just a big long empty pipe . Because this gun is darn quiet ❗️❗️❗️ That´s it !!
I really appreciate the positive and kind comments. The thing about doing a review is there will always be something that is missed but do try desperately to include all of the most pertinent information. The real to the core information and if I miss something it is peripheral information that is not detrimental to the operation of the product. But as I said, there will always be a few viewers that would have liked another aspect covered. Thanks again.
Thank you Sir! I really appreciate the time, detail and effort in presenting this PCP! I didn't know which one to go for next and this helped to make up my mind.
Hajimoto I do have a question: Can you make a video on how to change the spring hammer? Reason is for your comment at the end of shooting in your video. We all will be thankful as always for your amazing videos. May God bless you by give you the strength and health to continue of filming such educating videos.
@Alberto Papi I think you misunderstood the meaning of "Changed the Hammer Spring" , I mean I changed the amount of adjustment on the hammer preload spring which i show in great detail. There wasn't a different spring installed in the rifle, all shots were with stock parts.
PIcked one of these up on a whim. I'm an old school break-barrel guy, and kind of look sideways at the whole PCP business. Man this thing is fun, quiet, and accurate and kicks up the dust. It's a perfect small game and plinking rifle and can now be had for as low as $260 without the pump. Heee-wack!
Great review Haj awesome information on the Origin I was looking at getting one because it comes with a hand pump and that saves me from buying a compressor right away and now I will have a way to fill my Hawk rifle
I am new to modern air rifle designs. The testing and charts that you provide are very helpful. I find it interesting how as the tank pressure drops, the duration of gas release increases, and as such, the pellet velocity is somewhat regulated
Most excellent review of the Umarex origin my friend it has to be the most in-depth look attic I've ever seen great job thank you my friend Happy Thanksgiving
Just bought an Avenger. This would be an excellent starter gun, coming with the pump. The ever pressure system seem awesome. Both seem to be really accurate from other reviews I’ve seen. I recommend the Origin to my brother so he can get into the sport inexpensively with a good shoot able gun right out of the box. Gonna just give him a scope and rings I’ve got hanging around if he ends up buying it. It was a hard choice between the two, but I’m already set up to shoot.
I know this comment was like a year ago but I'm torn between the origin and avenger. Really leaning towards regulated 22 avenger and an ebay pump. Thoughts? For context I have several nitro piston springers, c02 pistols, and 1 pump pistol and plan to mainly target shoot but if shtf may hunt with a pcp to be quiet and save real ammo.
@@aceman1126 Like I said I went with the Avenger in .25. I already had two tanks, and a foot pump. I already had a Gauntlet in .25, and the Origin only came in .22. My brother went with the Origin. He loves it. He already had a .22 break barrel, so no need to change out ammo. He’s dusting gophers at 20-30yrds with head shots with a dot scope. So it’s an accurate gun. I like it’s ergonomic feel to the stock better than my Avenger. I had to build up my cheek piece for proper eye relief on the Avenger. I think they offer both, now, with full starter kits, pump, scope and ammo included.
Haji: U had me at Gauntlet. I bought everything U offered for my G. and it is a really good shooter. Origin sounds like a cool PCP for the bucks. 12-21 the new hot PCP id the DAR. It looks like an Origin with a wood stock. Another Chineez PCP??
Thank you for this . I ended up going for 720 plus a small kick down on the spring setting. Filling up to only 3000 psi, running thru 4 mags accurately with crossman premiers 14.3 grain. Im extremely happy with the results. Still punches through sheet metal and pallets as far as power, but im literally tack driving at 40 yards..also lubed the pellets really lightly which is a secret difference. Thumbs up good job! Subbed
Hajimoto, great review on the Umarex Origin. I was waffling two days ago and bought the Fortitude for a friend at Pyramyd's black Friday sale. Hadn't seen your review and now I'm thinking of buying it anyway. Like all the info you packed into the review. You are up there with Steve Scialli. What chrono are you using, FX? Scope? Thanks for a great review.
Great analysis - the graphs are very informative! Thanks for taking the time and sharing. Question - do you think the “constant pressure system” acts a bit like a pseudo regulator? Also, as I look at the prices of fixed output regulators on AliExpress, I don’t understand why manufacturers don’t include regulation with all rifles now - as the cost is minimal. Do you believe that it is the added complexity (and O rings - failure points) required for regulation? Finally, I was educated a bit by the chrono and your results at 50 yards - it seems that even a 25 FPS variance was negligible in poi at 50 yards - so perhaps regulation is not that important at distances of 50 yards or less (which is likely the majority of air gun target shooting & hunting). One additional question while I’m on a roll... in your opinion, which caliber (.25 .22 or .177) is advantageous for target shooting over 50 yards?
DING DING DING!!! You have rung the bell three times my friend! First, yes the ever-pressure system acts sort of like a pressure stabilizer or normalizer. Next, Regulators do have a downside, you give up power for consistency. Lastly, You are absolutely right, 25 FPS or so will make little difference to the POI at 75 yards or less. Where regulated precise metered power delivery is critical is super long-distance precision shooting. I think we would have to explore how much further beyond 50 yards and if there are any energy restrictions on this target shooting. If there are no limits, anyone of these calibers has a rifle capable of threading the needle but keeping things reachable, I would say .22 or .25 because of the additional mass which is less affected by the elements. I have my personal favorite caliber which I will work twice as hard to make work just because thats my caliber 😉
Thanks for this vid Haji. I finally understand more about the mysterious " hammer and spring". Excellent graphs and explanation! Has MIT contacted you about teaching yet? haha You have sold me on this one, my first pcp.
I am glad you found the video useful. There have been many reports that the hand pump requires some very specific use and maintenance to work effectively so be sure to follow the instructions closely. Thanks for the comment!
Absolutely the best, concise and informative review ot the Umarex Origin 22 caliber air rifle ever...EVER!! All the information and shot data necessary to entice one to "pull the trigger" and get one. Thanks Hajimoto for an incredible video and graphics! Keep 'em coming! I just purchased this air rifle and can't wait to get it outside and shoot! BTW, what chrony are you using? I want one of those, too!!
Thank you for the feedback. The Chrono is an FX Pocket Radar unit. We offer them at HajimotoProductions.com should you want one. hajimotoproductions.com/index.php/product/fx-pocket-chronograph/
Haji it's Roger from the Umarex origin owners group on FB. Have you tried the Griffin slugs yet? I had some really good groupings with the .218's I am waiting on my Chrony to arrive so I can give more detailed info. So far I have only been shooting with the factory setup.
Great video, answered a lot of my questions. The guy at airgundepot told me not to shoot slugs out of mine. lol Can you shoot .218 slugs out of the Origin?
Thanks for the great video. Just got mine, my first but not last PCP, love it. I cannot get much more than 3,000 PSI in mine with the pump and I am 6’4” 270 .lbs. Slow full pumps get me to 3,000. Screwed in the hammer spring then backed out two full turns and get twenty shots from 3,000 to 2,000 .lbs. 50 pumps from 2,000 to 3,000 , going by Benjamin pumper math that is a pretty good deal. No Chrony yet but @ twenty yards(farthest I can safely shoot in my backyard) knocks down .22 Rimfire silhouettes with authority and shots .250” groups with Crosman 14.3 hollow points. My Walther LGV Master got jealous today.
Scrap that crappy hand pump and get a compressor. I'm not 6'4 but I'm not a weak ass either and I could not get my Origin to get past 3000 psi either. I bought a GXCS2 compressor from Amazon and I haven't had any issues. The compressor fills the Origin in about 3 to 4 mins depending how low you let your pressure get to. Happy shooting
@@HajimotoProductions you nailed everything in this video. This is also my 1st pcp rifle. Accurate and powerful. I’ve added a Donny Fl suppressor on mines to quiet it down. He sells the end adapter for the origin. Great review as always!
@@HajimotoProductions Boy am I lucky. A PCP buddy gave me a tin of the 21's. Trying tomorrow along with the hammer spring adjustments according to your video with other pellets
Thank you very much. You sold me my first pcp. The 50 yard shooting is what I was looking for 100%. I seen the group's at 50 yards no question there. Thank you for your time knowledge and experiences. What other add ons and tweaks can help with more accurate shooting?
Great review but it leaves me a little puzzled. I just received my Origin brand new and the hammer came set at nearly five turns out from max. I backed it off another half turn and it chronographed an avg 951 fps with cheapo Benjamin pellets. I suppose there are some manufacturing tolerances involved.
You are right, there are different enhancement and revisions that take place in these PCP's and my experience is a snapshot in time. You have the right approach though, just apply the methods I demonstrate in this video to produce your own sweet spots based on projectile weight and pressures.
I have a lot of projects currently in the fire but I honestly think the Origin is pretty close to right just the way it is. I have already developed a Strip Stak Pak for it and plan on looking to see if there is any increasing the efficiency of the valving and porting, we'll see.
I’m a little late to the party but I just bought an origin.. really excited for it to come in! Might also have to order the .25 version in the near future
ordered mine today because of this video. great info, thanks. is it alright to dry fire the first 7 or 8 shots, to get into the flatter part of the curve?
Nice review but I'm curious like it advertises that it's shooting a 22 caliber 1,075 ft per second even when you're shooting it on the chronometer you're getting like seven and eight hundred feet per second I want to buy it for hunting and that's not going to cut it but 1075 would. I wanted in 25 caliber but if it's 300 feet per second slower than its advertisers not going to be powerful enough. Can you tell me what's up with that please...
Greetings! Great video by explaining everything about it. As we all know this Chinese PCPs are well made and perform great out of the box. No wonder why this big companies are putting their names on them, Gauntlet, Avenger, Skyhawk, Stormrider, etc.. Thank you for taking your time on the making of this video. Bravo Zulu!
This is not a complaint, just different. I must have a turbo pump. I can fill my gun from where it won't shoot to completely full in only 40 pumps. Would love to record this to prove it. But the down side it I only get 24 shots per fill. I backed the hammer spring all the way out. 1/2 turn on. 750 across crony. I have it up to 850 now. Crossman 14.3 grain. Love the 40 pumps, but would like a bigger shot count.
Thank you for the comprehensive review, excellent as always. I just purchased the Origin (my first PCP) and started casting 19.3 grain pellets for it. Since the review only covers "lighter" pellets at 15 -16 grains, would you have any advice on tuning for a slightly heavier pellet? 180 degree turn?
You adjust the hammer preload to shoot whatever weight pellet/slug you want, the question will be "can it fly them at a rate of maximum accuracy?" only testing will tell. I have given you everything you need to conduct that testing. I hope you share your results. Thanks for the view, comment and kind words.
How did you clean your umarex? Just shooting cleaning pellets, pull through patch, or something else? Did a couple test shots at 10 yards and much worse than your groups, but that was right out of the box.
I recommend and offer the Patch Worm system of barrel cleaning. It is one of if not the best way to clean your PCP barrels. hajimotoproductions.com/index.php/product/patchworm-pocket-field-kit/
I really appreciate you not only taking the time to view it but also to leave me some feedback. As you know, we do this for the love of the sport and our only reward is feedback, thank you for that.
Well, that did it for me lol I was checking this out as my first pcp and after watching this video I'm going to go ahead and order it for sure! My Hatsan 30cal break barrel is just a horse to cock and the rifle itself weighs like 15lbs it feels like lol while it is cool to have it is not fun or realistic to shoot....
I'm new to PCP and bought this as my first PCP rifle. The rifle shoots nice and smooth. What sucks is using the included hand pump everytime the pressure gets low. If it's Umarexs goal to have the customer invest back into the PCP community then they did it because now I'm looking into a PCP air compressors and they are not cheap. So those looking into this rifle know that hand pumping will get old real quick.
It is my understanding that Umarex put this package together so folks had everything they needed to use the airgun. You need to have an air source no matter what PCP you buy.
Go ahead and buy a decent compressor, and a tank, because once you get hooked, you will find yourself buying different pcp rifles and hand pumping wont be fun. I fill my tanks (2) from my compressor and thats less wear and tear on my compressor and filling from my tanks takes about 10 seconds. To fill my 98 cu ft tank takes about 30-35 minutes and from the tank I get about 20-25 fills before I have to air it back up. I have 20 pcps, and it makes it so much better to shoot them, instead of hand pumping, and the tanks make me mobile. Most of my pcps fill to 250 bar.
@@anthonygillespie4523 bought a GX CS2 compressor off Amazon and that little compressor fills the Origin in about 3 mins. It's working way better than the included hand pump and I am finding myself shooting the Origin more now that I don't have to hand pump.
I can honestly say, without any reservation, if Hajimoto says it's so, you can bank on it. Hajimoto is one of only five shooting sports personnel whose facts I completely trust.
Thank you for those words of support.
And SG also!
This is the absolute best video I've ever seen explaining the sweet spot in a power curve. BRAVO!
This is an excellent air rifle. I agree 100% on this being the best way into a pcp. I was amazed how accurate this rifle is. I like that Umarex didn't bundle a scope. That way the buyer can choose exactly what size and price scope he wishes to use, without paying extra for something he may put in the closet and never use.
Excellent review brother. 🎯
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Best most comprehensive review I have ever watched. I will be testing this weekend with my Origin based on your testing. Thank you so much for the time & & effort to put this info out.
I just purchased this package. Should arrive tomorrow.
I'm extremely excited to see how consistent this thing is going to be.
I have ever confidence it will exceed my needs based on this review.
Thank you for being just so above and beyond with your information gathering. I'd wager to say you surpassed the manufacturer in their marketing.
Honestly, they should pay you. Lol
I am confident you will enjoy your origin. Enjoy my friend!
19: 28, IMpressive. And all the information given makes you a leading teacher of airguns Hajimoto. Thanks.
Why thank you for that! Stay safe!
Loved the way you broke down the data on pressure vs. velocity, etc. (Have heard this refered to but didn't really "get it" till now!) :)
I also like the way you show the shooting data - AND the talking chrony! ;)
Great review of this gun; now on my must buy list. For an unregulated gun it's a winner. I am subscribing because your evaluation s are VERY thorough- good work.
It really is a fun PCP
Well Done Hajimoto. Lots of solid info!
Thanks Webby, I appreciate all the support.
@@HajimotoProductions amazing detail in your testing! Thanks for taking the time to do that and explain so well! SOLID DEEP DIVE
I Got Mine In March Of 2021. Probably One The Best .22 PCPs I've Shot or Owned. I Put A Barska 3-12x40 AO Airgun Scope On It And It's Really Accurate and Powerful. Nice Review Also.
Very informative! Thank you. I’ve been an air gun enthusiast for 40 years. I’ve owned all kinds including a RWS model 52. I’ve been wanting to jump into PCP for awhile now, but the cost was a turn off. I bought the Origin last month and I love it! I’ve had to repair my pump three times in that time though. I wished there was a hand pump repair/rebuild video as informative. The schematics in the manual is very difficult for old eyes.
is the problem having to change orings . i lubricate orings with plumbers and electricians pure silicone grease .i get this at lowes or home depot ,much much much cheaper than buying from other places ,under 5 dollars a piece !!!! . i would look into talking to the experts .Is Viton better than nitrile?
General Suitability: Viton® is best suited for diverse sealing jobs that require high temperature and chemical resistance. ... This makes Viton® far superior to Nitrile in these regards. They are also designed to resist most oils and lubricants, more importantly petroleum-based lubricants. i have noticed the blackish residue that orings produce .in time ,the more residue comes off the less material you have left on the oring right ? . Viton® is the superior choice for high temperatures. Viton® standard compounds can withstand temperatures up to 446℉, while Buna o-rings can only handle up to 257℉. ALSO IF WONDERING ,What is the difference between black O rings and green O rings?
Difference between black o rings and green o rings
Black o rings are primarily neoprene or Nitrile or, in some cases, a mix of the two materials. ... Green o rings are hydrogenated Nitrile, also known as highly saturated Nitrile, or more commonly known as HNBR i wonder if these VITON orings would be better suited for higher pressures and higher heat ? i will get this set up soon ,and i guess when i have to rebuild this pump i will look at all the evidence .i will contact the pros of orings and tell them whats going on with the orings . let me know your input bro !
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I REALLY Like the way you presented this. The "sweet spots" in the power curve at certain pressures provide an almost regulated shooting experience. No one else has caught on to this idea.
Hello, this is not a new concept and I cannot take credit for discovering it. Shot string data for unregulated air rifles has been around for hundreds of years, it is just new to folks that are new to PCP's during a time where almost everyone wants a regulated PCP. This video proves that you do not need regulation to obtain consistency. Thanks for the view and comment my friend.
Would love to see this comprehensive review of the Umarex .25
The review would essentially be the same information other than the higher power results and lower shot count.
Thanks
A great video distinguished gentleman. Very grateful for his help with this Origin Umarex issue. I wish it could be in Spanish. Many blessings and health to you and all your family 💯 🏖 🙏
Thank you for the kind words. Stay safe.
Great review! I actually just got this Air rifle a couple weeks ago and it blew me away as well I have done nothing to it but shoot it and it has been great! smooth to shoot easy to pump up if you need to air it up that way and very accurate. I actually like it so much I plan on buying a second one just to have 2 of them. Umerex is really upping there game for sure.
Thank you for viewing and sharing your feedback on the video as well as your experiences with the Origin.
Saw the vid posted on the FB group Umarex Origin Owners. I've had mine 10 months and love it
The Origin makes it really easy to like that’s for sure.
I myself has looked at this as a gift to some folks here in Alabama thanks for the preview indeed Haji!
My pleasure!
Way to go Haj. My Gauntlet was one of the first out. After lots of shots and all your upgrades I was very happy with the results. Then I started having an issue with it dumping all the air. I returned it for repair expecting to pay dearly and to my surprise they sent me back a brand new one. Mine was going on two years old at the time so I was very pleased. It shot better than my Bros Marauder! Anyway, lots of kudos to Umarex and you too. But this new one, very impressive, how can I justify paying 1200-1500 for the other big names? ManOman, you have convinced me. Thanks.
Good label for this package. Knowing that this is a Nova Vista in a Umarex package is awesome. The only thing is truly wish is that they would have put this stock or wood on the Avenger but hey...for its features...and the overall cost...just wow! Still an amazing deal in both guns. This maybe possibly, the best deal on the market at the moment for someone stepping into PCPs. What an amazing time to get into high power/super accurate Airguns. Glad to see you putting out more videos again. The airgun community needs you man. We have missed you man. Over the years you have helped us/me out so much. Glad your back. God bless. Happy Thanksgiving man.
Wow Health, thank you sir for the kind words, I am humbled. Happy Thanksgiving my dude.
Airgun Depot has preorder for avengers with wood stock. $429. Will be arriving in May IIRC.
That is the best review I have seen. I heard that once you reach the plateau it doesn't matter if you keep putting tension on the hammer spring, the velocity is not going to increase, it waste air instead. Is that true? I wish you review the Benjamin Akela. You did a great review on that Umarex.
HAJI, I think my wife might kill me. Just ordered the Origin, your strip pak, a sumo, a chrono, and a dozen packs of pellets. You sold me.
She wont kill you if she dont know....:)
I’m brand new to pcp air guns and this the best information on TH-cam no doubt great job love this channel keep up the great work love it
Thank you for the kind words and support!
Unreal, explained so well ,, THANK YOU!
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for stopping by
better specification I have not seen. thanks for such good information. I wish you could make a video of the maintenance of the rifle .. greetings.
Thank you so much for the kind words. Cleaning and maintenance is content that I have always left to others. If for no other reason that there is already so much content out there for that kind of thing but if I receive enough interest, I will offer my take on the practice.
I was on the fence about buying this gun as my first pcp, but now after this solid information I'm going to go for it. I can wait to see your future videos on this gun! As always excellent video!
Think long and hard. Biggest pos ive ever bought
Man your reviews are the best. Question for ya, which is better the umarex origin or the air Venturi avenger?
Thank you @scottguido3144 I appreciate the feed back. The Orgin and the Avenger are in different price catagories so its not REALLY fair but tthe Avenger wins do to it having an user adjustable regulator, having a larger air volume which results in far more shots between fills.
I have been in hot debate over my first PCP rifle. I can say without a doubt, that you decisively nailed down my choice for me !! I thoroughly enjoyed the video. The way you broke everything down, explained every step, and kept it simple made this a joy to watch. When you were grinning and laughing at some of those groups, I was too. It was like I was on the range with you. Thank you for such a fantastic experience, review, and thorough test. I hope I have as much fun with mine as you did with yours. Cheers !!!
I am happy to hear that this content provided you with some usable information to make your decision. I can tell you one thing, your experience will be equal to mine because the Origin delivers a great experience. Thanks for the comment. Please like and share
Thanks for the BEST, MOST HONEST & CONCISE Review that I’ve seen on the Umarex Origin!
I recently bought the Origin as my first PCP & I‘m blown away with all that it offers!
I totally agree that it has great feel to it . . . Somehow, it just fits!
Just wish that your channel didn’t have the “made for kids” TH-cam filter on it . . . I would love to be able to set your channel to receive ALL the videos that you produce.
Keep up the GREAT work Brother!
Thanks for the comments. FYI my channel does not have a NOT FOR KIDS general across the board rating, each video needs to be classified if it IS or IS NOT for kids. Are you saying that you want only be notified if KIDS content is published? I'm confused.
@@HajimotoProductions
To the contrary! Sorry I stated it wrong. I was referring to notifications.
I WANT to be notified when ALL of your videos are released but that choice is restricted by TH-cam somehow.
TH-cam does not allow me to be notified about your new videos.
Thanks again for all you do for our sport!
Wow this is a "real review" with a lot very good information.... thanks !!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Damnit, I already own every "entry level" PCP that's come out in the last 4 or 5 years and many are so accurate that I just don't "need" another, but you really got me thinkin' about this one. I don't have one that has the pre-charged accumulator built into it though, so I guess I could justify it on the strength of that..... crap, life choices are hard!
If you have some, you really won't need this one but for the person sitting on the fence... its a no brainer
As a bass player, Q: How many basses does a player need ?
A: Just ONE more ...
@@michaelb.42112 noted and humbled.......
@@HajimotoProductions it's my first PCP. I was a virgin to precharged pneumatic and now I have a hatsan invader and umarex gauntlet.25 call. I'm addicted to them.
Ditching my 22 rimfire because I live in Massachusetts now and it's hard to own one.
Have a Air Venturi Avenger? How do you feel about it?
You just helped me make my decision already have the flash from Hatsan in .25 been bouncing back and forth on wether or not this or the gauntlet 2 should be my second purchase I love the fact that it comes with the pump , however if you say this is hands down the best on the market in this price range after seeing those expressions you mentioned I'm sold , the origin then the gauntlet another fantastic video thank you .
You will not be unhappy with the Origin. It really is a great all around PCP and because it is non regulated, it is very welcoming to hand pumping. Thanks for the comment.
Wow! Haji thanks for the excellent introduction and analysis on the Origin. Your hard work and time spent breaking air rifles (including the origin) down for us is greatly appreciated. The short range shooting you provided was awesome! Rick Rehm had a little tease into the long range accuracy on Instagram at 120yds and it looked like a 2" group. The Chinese company producing the Origin and Avenger is doing great work for Umarex and Air Venturi! I hope it is beginning of many more successful products!
Thank you for recognizing the work that goes into these videos. I like to concentrate on the foundation or the core of most PCP's that I review as I feel this arms the consumer with what makes it work and is it good at it. This videos is a prime example of how fast a video to turn into 20+ minutes. I do not have enough time to shoot at every distance with every projectile so I look forward to guys like Rick Rehm, Steve Scialli and so many others that fly projectiles for extreme distances and share the results with us all.
Hey Haji, really nice detailed review and break down of this gun. I think this will be a valuable video for introducing new shooters to the world of PCP. Well done.
You are too kind Geppetto 😁
Thank you for the constant support my friend.
@@HajimotoProductions I'll be making an 300 bar air tube out of walnut.
@@AirVelocitySport WARLOCK!!!!! HE IS A WARLOCK EVERYONE!!!!! SORCERY!!!
Excellent explanation on that graph 📊 brother... man you killed it on the range 50 yards looking good Haji !! Them H&N were hole in hole brother...good to see on the set...happy Thanksgiving to you and the fam.🇺🇸👍👍
My dude!!!! Good to see your text on my page! Thank you for the kind words as always my brother, much appreciated. Stay safe and enjoy your family food during this very different Thanksgiving season.
Thank you Haji! I took some notes based off your charts. This is the best breakdown I've seen explaining it all. Really can't thank you enough. It's only been a day, but I'm super happy with my Umarex Origin so far. If anyone is on the fence, BUY IT! It exceeded my expectations.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi . I need to say that straight .....This is the best review I saw for several years Sir !!! Everything you named in detail !!!!!!! I wish anyone who do a review do so !! For example , is there a power wheel show us the different power settings at any click/stage !! Is there a regulator adjustment show us and explain and do a shoot count on any power setting !!! This is the only way to review a air gun !!!!! Like you did in this one ! Thank you so much !!!!!!!! Reviews like those keep´s viewers and subscribers HAPPY ❗️Oh, one thing I did not se is what about the shroud ? Are there baffles inside or just a big long empty pipe . Because this gun is darn quiet ❗️❗️❗️ That´s it !!
I really appreciate the positive and kind comments. The thing about doing a review is there will always be something that is missed but do try desperately to include all of the most pertinent information. The real to the core information and if I miss something it is peripheral information that is not detrimental to the operation of the product. But as I said, there will always be a few viewers that would have liked another aspect covered. Thanks again.
@@HajimotoProductions This rev is as I say´d over the top !!!! Thanks man
Fantastically useful instructive video for us new to PCPs. New Origin owner here, so: THANK YOU!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you Sir!
I really appreciate the time, detail and effort in presenting this PCP! I didn't know which one to go for next and this helped to make up my mind.
Glad it was helpful!
Ridiculously great video Hajimoto! You laid down some seriously useful data. Can't wait for the next one.
Hajimoto I do have a question: Can you make a video on how to change the spring hammer? Reason is for your comment at the end of shooting in your video. We all will be thankful as always for your amazing videos. May God bless you by give you the strength and health to continue of filming such educating videos.
@Alberto Papi I think you misunderstood the meaning of "Changed the Hammer Spring" , I mean I changed the amount of adjustment on the hammer preload spring which i show in great detail. There wasn't a different spring installed in the rifle, all shots were with stock parts.
@@HajimotoProductions That's what I thought since at the beginning of filming that is what you said. Thank you for clarifying. May God bless you.
PIcked one of these up on a whim. I'm an old school break-barrel guy, and kind of look sideways at the whole PCP business. Man this thing is fun, quiet, and accurate and kicks up the dust. It's a perfect small game and plinking rifle and can now be had for as low as $260 without the pump. Heee-wack!
That's what is called REVIEW. Best of the best. Bravo!
Very useful video to this Origin owner. Thanks, subscribed!
Nice review Hajimoto. Thanks for showing us how it performs brother!
You bet
It deasnt. The air leaks, the pump is fked up & this is a gimic to take ur $$ any dubdads promoting this is Not a godd shun 20yrds aint shit😅l
Great review Haj awesome information on the Origin I was looking at getting one because it comes with a hand pump and that saves me from buying a compressor right away and now I will have a way to fill my Hawk rifle
I am new to modern air rifle designs. The testing and charts that you provide are very helpful. I find it interesting how as the tank pressure drops, the duration of gas release increases, and as such, the pellet velocity is somewhat regulated
Thank you for stopping by. Enjoy the sport!
Most excellent review of the Umarex origin my friend it has to be the most in-depth look attic I've ever seen great job thank you my friend Happy Thanksgiving
Thank you for taking the time to not only view but to share your kind words.
Just bought an Avenger. This would be an excellent starter gun, coming with the pump. The ever pressure system seem awesome. Both seem to be really accurate from other reviews I’ve seen. I recommend the Origin to my brother so he can get into the sport inexpensively with a good shoot able gun right out of the box. Gonna just give him a scope and rings I’ve got hanging around if he ends up buying it. It was a hard choice between the two, but I’m already set up to shoot.
I know this comment was like a year ago but I'm torn between the origin and avenger. Really leaning towards regulated 22 avenger and an ebay pump. Thoughts?
For context I have several nitro piston springers, c02 pistols, and 1 pump pistol and plan to mainly target shoot but if shtf may hunt with a pcp to be quiet and save real ammo.
@@aceman1126 Like I said I went with the Avenger in .25. I already had two tanks, and a foot pump. I already had a Gauntlet in .25, and the Origin only came in .22. My brother went with the Origin. He loves it. He already had a .22 break barrel, so no need to change out ammo. He’s dusting gophers at 20-30yrds with head shots with a dot scope. So it’s an accurate gun. I like it’s ergonomic feel to the stock better than my Avenger. I had to build up my cheek piece for proper eye relief on the Avenger. I think they offer both, now, with full starter kits, pump, scope and ammo included.
Haji: U had me at Gauntlet. I bought everything U offered for my G. and it is a really good shooter. Origin sounds like a cool PCP for the bucks. 12-21 the new hot PCP id the DAR. It looks like an Origin with a wood stock. Another Chineez PCP??
Thank you for this . I ended up going for 720 plus a small kick down on the spring setting. Filling up to only 3000 psi, running thru 4 mags accurately with crossman premiers 14.3 grain. Im extremely happy with the results. Still punches through sheet metal and pallets as far as power, but im literally tack driving at 40 yards..also lubed the pellets really lightly which is a secret difference. Thumbs up good job! Subbed
Hajimoto, great review on the Umarex Origin. I was waffling two days ago and bought the Fortitude for a friend at Pyramyd's black Friday sale. Hadn't seen your review and now I'm thinking of buying it anyway. Like all the info you packed into the review. You are up there with Steve Scialli. What chrono are you using, FX? Scope? Thanks for a great review.
very good video! Thanks! I got my Umarex origin a week ago, and you give me a lot information well need it. thanks again
Nice! Im decided.. this will be my .22 PCP following my soon to come .25 Xisico Sentry HP
I learned so much from this video Sir. I just realized how much I dont know my Gauntlet and Liberty. Much work to do
Thank you my friend.
@@HajimotoProductions 🙇🏽♂️
Excellent analyse; your impressions seems to be very honnest. We thank you so much for your implication and for your channel! thanks again for all
Much appreciated!
Great analysis - the graphs are very informative! Thanks for taking the time and sharing. Question - do you think the “constant pressure system” acts a bit like a pseudo regulator? Also, as I look at the prices of fixed output regulators on AliExpress, I don’t understand why manufacturers don’t include regulation with all rifles now - as the cost is minimal. Do you believe that it is the added complexity (and O rings - failure points) required for regulation? Finally, I was educated a bit by the chrono and your results at 50 yards - it seems that even a 25 FPS variance was negligible in poi at 50 yards - so perhaps regulation is not that important at distances of 50 yards or less (which is likely the majority of air gun target shooting & hunting). One additional question while I’m on a roll... in your opinion, which caliber (.25 .22 or .177) is advantageous for target shooting over 50 yards?
DING DING DING!!! You have rung the bell three times my friend! First, yes the ever-pressure system acts sort of like a pressure stabilizer or normalizer. Next, Regulators do have a downside, you give up power for consistency. Lastly, You are absolutely right, 25 FPS or so will make little difference to the POI at 75 yards or less. Where regulated precise metered power delivery is critical is super long-distance precision shooting. I think we would have to explore how much further beyond 50 yards and if there are any energy restrictions on this target shooting. If there are no limits, anyone of these calibers has a rifle capable of threading the needle but keeping things reachable, I would say .22 or .25 because of the additional mass which is less affected by the elements. I have my personal favorite caliber which I will work twice as hard to make work just because thats my caliber 😉
Thanks for this vid Haji. I finally understand more about the mysterious " hammer and spring". Excellent graphs and explanation! Has MIT contacted you about teaching yet? haha You have sold me on this one, my first pcp.
I am glad you found the video useful. There have been many reports that the hand pump requires some very specific use and maintenance to work effectively so be sure to follow the instructions closely. Thanks for the comment!
I put a deposit on an Origin today to hold the last one in stock at Airgun One. First PCP also. I'm really paying attention now.
Haji. You are more appreciated than you will ever know. BIG, BIG, THANKS. God bless. Thanks again.
So nice of you
Absolutely the best, concise and informative review ot the Umarex Origin 22 caliber air rifle ever...EVER!! All the information and shot data necessary to entice one to "pull the trigger" and get one. Thanks Hajimoto for an incredible video and graphics! Keep 'em coming! I just purchased this air rifle and can't wait to get it outside and shoot! BTW, what chrony are you using? I want one of those, too!!
Thank you for the feedback. The Chrono is an FX Pocket Radar unit. We offer them at HajimotoProductions.com should you want one.
hajimotoproductions.com/index.php/product/fx-pocket-chronograph/
Thank you
This is an in depth and thorough evaluation. It's a shame such great work is so rare. I'm buying one as soon as I finish this comment.
Haji it's Roger from the Umarex origin owners group on FB. Have you tried the Griffin slugs yet? I had some really good groupings with the .218's I am waiting on my Chrony to arrive so I can give more detailed info. So far I have only been shooting with the factory setup.
Any more info on slugs yet? I'm on the owners group too!
Great video, answered a lot of my questions. The guy at airgundepot told me not to shoot slugs out of mine. lol
Can you shoot .218 slugs out of the Origin?
The origin shoots light slugs fine, just stick to light, also stick to 217 if you can.
Just picked one up
Looks totally different, got AR STOCK ,GRIP ,BARRAL SHROUD
Thanks for the great video. Just got mine, my first but not last PCP, love it. I cannot get much more than 3,000 PSI in mine with the pump and I am 6’4” 270 .lbs. Slow full pumps get me to 3,000. Screwed in the hammer spring then backed out two full turns and get twenty shots from 3,000 to 2,000 .lbs. 50 pumps from 2,000 to 3,000 , going by Benjamin pumper math that is a pretty good deal. No Chrony yet but @ twenty yards(farthest I can safely shoot in my backyard) knocks down .22 Rimfire silhouettes with authority and shots .250” groups with Crosman 14.3 hollow points. My Walther LGV Master got jealous today.
Scrap that crappy hand pump and get a compressor. I'm not 6'4 but I'm not a weak ass either and I could not get my Origin to get past 3000 psi either. I bought a GXCS2 compressor from Amazon and I haven't had any issues. The compressor fills the Origin in about 3 to 4 mins depending how low you let your pressure get to. Happy shooting
I just picked one of these up, thank you for the amazing review, learned a lot about the sweet spot curves as well.
You are very welcome and I thank you for the feed back. Shoot safe!
Thanks I think I’ll be picking up some HN slugs for mines !
All of the slugs did pretty good but yeah, the H&N's in 21 grain are even better than the 23's I showed in the video.
@@HajimotoProductions you nailed everything in this video. This is also my 1st pcp rifle. Accurate and powerful. I’ve added a Donny Fl suppressor on mines to quiet it down. He sells the end adapter for the origin. Great review as always!
@@HajimotoProductions Boy am I lucky. A PCP buddy gave me a tin of the 21's. Trying tomorrow along with the hammer spring adjustments according to your video with other pellets
Such a great review! Thank you very much!
Origin it is! :) Sadly they are out of stock for now, but as soon as restock, its mine.
I appreciate the comment and I hope the inventory replenishes soon as it is a great shooter.
Just the guy I was looking for. Guess what I was just shopping for... Maybe!? THNX! I subbed!
Did you get ya one?
Great job and well put together. I'm thinking of getting the .25
How many usefull shots will it get using your tuning in the vid?
I think you may want to watch the video and really listen to the commentary I make on each graph.
Thank you very much. You sold me my first pcp. The 50 yard shooting is what I was looking for 100%. I seen the group's at 50 yards no question there. Thank you for your time knowledge and experiences. What other add ons and tweaks can help with more accurate shooting?
One of the first things would be what I tell all my shooters to do....... put 1000 rounds through that sucker and then and only then reassess 😉
Thank you Haji
Great review but it leaves me a little puzzled. I just received my Origin brand new and the hammer came set at nearly five turns out from max. I backed it off another half turn and it chronographed an avg 951 fps with cheapo Benjamin pellets. I suppose there are some manufacturing tolerances involved.
You are right, there are different enhancement and revisions that take place in these PCP's and my experience is a snapshot in time. You have the right approach though, just apply the methods I demonstrate in this video to produce your own sweet spots based on projectile weight and pressures.
Can we expect you to make some upgrades for this gun like u did the gauntlet?
I have a lot of projects currently in the fire but I honestly think the Origin is pretty close to right just the way it is. I have already developed a Strip Stak Pak for it and plan on looking to see if there is any increasing the efficiency of the valving and porting, we'll see.
I’m a little late to the party but I just bought an origin.. really excited for it to come in! Might also have to order the .25 version in the near future
You will love what the Origin brings to the table for sure.
Wow! Excellent review, and those graphs were phenomenal as well. Super job! 👍👍👍
Geo from MI
Thank you for not only taking the time to view but to comment, I really do appreciate the kind words.
Congrats!
Very objective analysis. Airguners must love this review
thanks
Thanks for watching!
Think I have to subscribe. This was an amazing review. You sold me.
Thank you for that Mark.
Would it be too much to ask for open sights or a cheap optic?
Well they have the cheap optic covered but I agree, open sights would be a cool to include option with a platform like this.
@@HajimotoProductions oh, so it does come with a cheap optic?
Nice my brother haji. I love informed information. 😃😃😃
Brother Mitch, I appreciate the unwavering support always.
Mr. Hajimoto your a very sharp as an instructor. Can I use a .22 slug o my Umarex Origin .22 pellet pcp?
As long as they are 25gr or less yes. Preferably, 17 to 22gr
Thank you!
I loved it very much. Thank you, Hagi. great work
How about the price?
349.00 and some change from what ive seen online. Gun and pump no scope included.
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Thank you sir
@@benoliver619 got mine for $314.00 at pyramid air guns great pump sucks
@@roger71901 Get a Yong Heng. I couldn't pump the gun without killing myself (65 yrs). As far a I'm concerned all hand pumps are for young guys.
I wanted to purchase this gun from Pyramid AIR , but in order to do so you have to accept a hand pump ( which I already had) to buy it.
excellent! thank you for once again providing me with pertinent data i can use.
Hey Hajimoto !!! This rifle looks SICK !!!! Thanks brother.
No my dude thank you for letting me know it offered you some value.
Wow I can't believe I just discovered this channel. Subscribed
Thanks for the support
I wish the gauntlet 2 came with the side cocking lever like this does.
REALLY APRECIATED ON ORIGIN THE QUIETING TUNE ADVICE VERSION 2 WOUL;D BE NICE
ordered mine today because of this video. great info, thanks. is it alright to dry fire the first 7 or 8 shots, to get into the flatter part of the curve?
Thank you for the view and comment. Yes you can shoot it down or simply not fill as much.
From the factory, mine hammer spring was 4 full turns away from wide open. No chrono data yet.
Nice review but I'm curious like it advertises that it's shooting a 22 caliber 1,075 ft per second even when you're shooting it on the chronometer you're getting like seven and eight hundred feet per second I want to buy it for hunting and that's not going to cut it but 1075 would. I wanted in 25 caliber but if it's 300 feet per second slower than its advertisers not going to be powerful enough. Can you tell me what's up with that please...
Greetings! Great video by explaining everything about it. As we all know this Chinese PCPs are well made and perform great out of the box. No wonder why this big companies are putting their names on them, Gauntlet, Avenger, Skyhawk, Stormrider, etc.. Thank you for taking your time on the making of this video. Bravo Zulu!
Awesome video Haj, love this and glad to see another fantastic review go up!
Thank you for the unwavering support my dude.
Oh and im also digging that rifle stand. How would one come across such accessory? Would u share the make and model?
This is not a complaint, just different. I must have a turbo pump. I can fill my gun from where it won't shoot to completely full in only 40 pumps. Would love to record this to prove it. But the down side it I only get 24 shots per fill. I backed the hammer spring all the way out. 1/2 turn on. 750 across crony. I have it up to 850 now. Crossman 14.3 grain. Love the 40 pumps, but would like a bigger shot count.
Thank you for the comprehensive review, excellent as always. I just purchased the Origin (my first PCP) and started casting 19.3 grain pellets for it. Since the review only covers "lighter" pellets at 15 -16 grains, would you have any advice on tuning for a slightly heavier pellet? 180 degree turn?
You adjust the hammer preload to shoot whatever weight pellet/slug you want, the question will be "can it fly them at a rate of maximum accuracy?" only testing will tell. I have given you everything you need to conduct that testing. I hope you share your results. Thanks for the view, comment and kind words.
How did you clean your umarex? Just shooting cleaning pellets, pull through patch, or something else? Did a couple test shots at 10 yards and much worse than your groups, but that was right out of the box.
I recommend and offer the Patch Worm system of barrel cleaning. It is one of if not the best way to clean your PCP barrels. hajimotoproductions.com/index.php/product/patchworm-pocket-field-kit/
Great damn video Haj. Watched the whole thing as it was VERY informative sir!
I really appreciate you not only taking the time to view it but also to leave me some feedback. As you know, we do this for the love of the sport and our only reward is feedback, thank you for that.
Well, that did it for me lol I was checking this out as my first pcp and after watching this video I'm going to go ahead and order it for sure! My Hatsan 30cal break barrel is just a horse to cock and the rifle itself weighs like 15lbs it feels like lol while it is cool to have it is not fun or realistic to shoot....
Another excellent job! Thanks.
I really appreciate the kind words, thank you
What it do haji nice video how much for a tune on this rifle once again nice video
I'm new to PCP and bought this as my first PCP rifle. The rifle shoots nice and smooth. What sucks is using the included hand pump everytime the pressure gets low. If it's Umarexs goal to have the customer invest back into the PCP community then they did it because now I'm looking into a PCP air compressors and they are not cheap. So those looking into this rifle know that hand pumping will get old real quick.
It is my understanding that Umarex put this package together so folks had everything they needed to use the airgun. You need to have an air source no matter what PCP you buy.
Go ahead and buy a decent compressor, and a tank, because once you get hooked, you will find yourself buying different pcp rifles and hand pumping wont be fun. I fill my tanks (2) from my compressor and thats less wear and tear on my compressor and filling from my tanks takes about 10 seconds. To fill my 98 cu ft tank takes about 30-35 minutes and from the tank I get about 20-25 fills before I have to air it back up. I have 20 pcps, and it makes it so much better to shoot them, instead of hand pumping, and the tanks make me mobile. Most of my pcps fill to 250 bar.
@@anthonygillespie4523 bought a GX CS2 compressor off Amazon and that little compressor fills the Origin in about 3 mins. It's working way better than the included hand pump and I am finding myself shooting the Origin more now that I don't have to hand pump.
@@smackdn775 One of the better ways to go, other than a air tank. They fill in about 10- 20 seconds and you will shoot more
Hajimoto, thanks for the great review. Between this and the Gauntlet, which would you advise? Thank you.