Hot Hatch Head2Head #13: MK8 Fiesta ST vs MK4 Focus ST
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- IT'S BACK! Welcome to season 2 of Hot Hatch Head2Head...Today, we see the MK8 Fiesta ST (Performance Edition) go up against the MK4 Focus ST.
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IT’S BACK!
What's that, the naff graphics crew 😂😂😂😂
Bring back that last round....theres no category for price/value for money or handling/fun to drive.
I dont mean to be off topic but does any of you know of a method to log back into an instagram account..?
I somehow lost my account password. I would love any assistance you can give me.
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You need to include a handling test, that’s where some hatchbacks, particularly the Fiesta ST, truly shine, and not to not compare that is a shame
Don't forget you add 0.5secs to the 0-60 for every passenger you have.
Wait a second... 4:36 The Focus ST MK4 has 420 NM, not 310...
Yesssss, not even watched it yet. I’ve missed this series
Add my vote to the Focus ST,and the Focus ST is the real winner as the MPG was over 1600 miles not just 200 on the Fiesta.Oh and i am biased because my Ford has the Ruby Red paint and panoramic roof,got great taste the Focus owner.
Ive seen this ruby red in person last week and its gorgeous, and not the usual performance blue which everyone chooses
Good to see this series back mate 👍🏻
Having had three Focus ST’s I’d pick the Focus. That spec looks good
Definitely not 310nm 😂😂
That’s my fault got NM and FTLbs mixed 🤣
Yes, 420nm or 310ft lb torque
The focus dual glass roof is amazing. I have a 2018 focus st but I'm in the states. RIP focus st lovers.
I wish they sold the Fiesta 3 door here in the USA
They don’t even sell the Fiesta at all in America
Can the guy with the focus tell me where he got his number plate screws from please? Can't find any anywhere!
Both amazing cars for ep1. Can't wait for more to come out
This is a fairly impressive segment - much more engaging presentation than some of your previous pieces! Well done! Nice music beds also. Have you had some training? Great pictures and improved audio, if I may add without being an insult!
Good vid luke closer than I thought cheers steve 👍 😀
WOO HOO. IM SO EXCITED FOR THIS 😁
Bad tests all round, poor launch too you cant do that much wheelspin and call it a 0-60 run
This video is exactly what I was looking for !!! Hesitating between Fiesta St and Focus St 😍
Which one you got
cant wait to see the rest of the season episodes
Nice to see this return luke 👍
Focus is 420 nm, 310 lbft
Owner of the fiesta makes the seats look spacious. If you've ever been in one my god their tight 😄
@diamus100 can't speak for the latest focus. But the new fiesta st has some serious venus fly traps as seats
my ST200 had the same problem, but you have to mold the seaths to your body. also I am fit, but not skinny like that bloke.
He needs a sandwich!
I prefer the look of the focus. But with the 0-60 times so close why pay an extra 10 grand for the focus. The fiesta is the winner for me.
Quite a poor head to head. If you are going to do a 0-60 then you need to do multiple runs in each to get a decent launch in each. I think both are quoted about the same 6.5 second time so that should have been a draw.
The Fiesta ST is heralded as one of the best hot hatches you can buy (Quaife LSD with the performance pack, superb handling), whereas the Focus suffers from torque steer and is generally not as good. The Fiesta is simply the better hot hatch and is up there with the Civic Type R and GR Yaris in the top 3 hot hatches you can currently buy.
You’re gonna have to find someone with a standard m140 now to make it fair 🤣
I love both, can’t say I’m a fan of the ruby red, someone parked their performance blue Mk4 ST next to my ST PE yesterday and that did make me regret not getting another focus as was stunning in the sun!
Mk8 ST doesnt really look too good in any color, cuz of the less agressive back end. Thats why i bought one in black, many of my friends regret picking performance blue, and think black looks best tbh
Ruby red discontinued,
The fiesta would destroy the focus on handling, take them for a race around some windy roads. Thats the only test that counts for me, and the reason why i’ve switch back to a fiesta
It’s sad ford won’t bring these sweet cars to the USA.
You will get 400Z instead..
Don’t get me wrong cool car but I own a 17 fist I love this car! I’d like the newer one.. I’m a family man lol
Thanks. A video of focus ST vs ST line.
Also , a video of focus ST vs Type R. Which is more fun?
You have way more fun in the fiesta, it's just that it's too boy racery for older drivers.
Not all older drivers either want or are able to drive high performance prestige cars. at 45yrs I have had the most fun ever, driving about for a few weeks in a fiesta st.
Can’t lie do like the focus ST but that colour is so ugly...
The video does it no justice whatsoever,have a look at Ruby Red in the sunshine its glorious.
Yeah I agree, it’s minging
Mirrors it’s Owner I’m afraid .
Ruby red is awful, tbh, got mine in performance blue.
Iain Rae ooooo performance blue I bet that’s sick
I have ordered a mk8.5 fiesta in mean green should be here in the next 3 weeks :)
The time it takes to accelerate from 0 to 60 mph (0 to 97 km/h or 0 to 27 m/s) is a commonly used performance measure for automotive acceleration in the United States and the United Kingdom. In the rest of the world, 0 to 100 km/h (0 to 62.1 mph) is used.
Love this
They shouldve turn the launch control off! It shouldn't wheel spin then😂
When geeks get cars on finance 😂😂🤦♂️
Underrated comment 🤣
They need to all spend a bit of time in the gym well skinny. Good vid though
Thought most people get into debt for cars though 🤷🏻♂️
@@Morgan1367 most stupid people
Garns 88 or just people with better jobs than others?
Please in your next video please do an comparison with the old and new M140i
And I would also love to see the new A45 Amg on the channel
Launch control is a bit of a gimmick in FWD cars
Maybe Fiesta have small engine but this is truly a hot hatch car. I ordered St 2 version with performance pack for march 2021. I also prefer Fiesta because it is two times cheapier comapred to Focus ST at least here in Poland where I leave. Here price in PLN is like in
Great Britain in pounds so imagine pay 180 000 pounds for focus ST... :) We have some shitty salaries :D
Great job Luke I would of gone for the fiesta it was pretty close in most rounds so well done little hot hatch
Nice video
"Cries in South African"
Him wi fiesta sounds like daffy duck 😂 man needs to eat a burger or 2 🍖
You really should include some rolling times as part of the challenge, they are more realistic in everyday driving. 30-70 and 20-50 would be some good times to record.
The Fiesta sounds like a tuned Trabant, sorry....
Looking at the focus I think I'd rather have that ...both good cars but shape wise focus wins personally ...good vid ..
@8.05 blaming his lsd for a slow 0- 60 time ....absolutely clueless. Lsd improves traction it doesnt make it worse. The car didnt bog down it was wheel spinning !
1:05 you said you've never seen the Focus except on the road. You're lucky. I live in the United States where they stopped production of this beautiful vehicle. I Drove a 2008 Focus SES, and I miss that car.
of course 3 pot is gonna be better on fuel... why they made the new ST a 3 pot in the first place.
Great sound, good character and nice performance. Fuel consumption is an added bonus.
@diamus100 exactly.
@@rbptheprettiest i totally agree, id love to get one in that colour too.
Can you do a comparison of the Fiesta ST against the BRZ/ GR86?
Both affordable by proper fun cars, with very different approaches!
I’m interested to see your thought because I’d love to buy the new Fiesta ST, but am currently weighting up against the GR86!
I've got an fiesta ST and get no way near 40mpg, 33 more like. That guy must drive it like granny 😂
It said 233miles... If that was mainly dual carriageway or motorway then easily doable driven at less than 80. He could have driven half the country to meet this guy for the test. I could always get 40mpg+ out of my mk3 focus mp275 on a run when going on family holidays, all loaded up. Obviously this would include a few overtakes but generally sensible driving.
yes hot hatch head2head is back
Nice cars and video - but if you’re going to trust the fuel computer for the MPG, at least reset it at the start of the tests!
Both nice cars, hard choice 👌👍
The fiesta looks like the fiat punto sporting I like it still 👍
You're amazed at under 30mpg on the focus and say you can't get near that in an m140i. My m140i has an average mpg of 35.3 over the last 10k miles, easily done with much spirited driving along the way
It would be good if the guy with the Focus actually knew what he was talking about. 420 nm on the Focus not 310. Basics man.
310Nm of torque? What?
It's 420Nm, even the mk3 had 360Nm.
Been waiting for this😂
Ben sort them red brake callipers out doesn’t do it justice with the orange spray them black or orange
Well then 💪🏻
I love the colour on your Ford 😁
The Orange looks ace 👍
U should of put the mk7 in with these three as well
These two are proper geek's...🤣😂😭
Race mode, dry road, 4000 rpm, ride out clutch, flat foot shift, no passenger, will get into the sixes with the fist. I know, I own one.
Plus, the fist will get better lateral g's than most cars on the market.
When ya hair matches the paint 👌🏽
Why was there no head to head drag race
Isnt the mk4 410 nm?
420nm 310 pounds feet
Yeh that’s my bad for FTLbs and NM mixed up 🤣
Owners represend weight of the cars pretty well👌😆
You are right. Fiesta is light and that is the key. Focus is over 1500 kg.. crazy for FWD car, hence Astra VXR was not popular for that reason also.
My Focus Titanium X Nav doing 50-60mpg on the regular 😏
your mpg test was dubious at best
If you buy those Ford Performance wheels to normal ST mk8, you will lose warranty to suspension parts here in Finland. Because of those are not stock wheels from factory 😂
Your 0-60 times are off because your pressing a Button on your phone .
He used a draggy. Its dead accurate😂😂
James Hedges
More like dead laggy.
Ford should offer the Fez ST in ruby red.
In the right hands there weapons
(Warning: OFF TOPIC PARTS TO MY COMMENT) I'm a lover of Fords in general I wouldn't mind seeing Ford V Vauxhall - which in my mind (bear in mind I'm 48 years old) could cause as many arguments as there were and still are between Sinclair Spectrum owners and Commodore 64 owners (of course the Spectrum 128k machines kind of won that battle EASILY when you consider the quality of software titles from 1986 onwards ).
Well... got to say guys! More worth while tests would be how much the cars deflect spaghetti, best to drive with one foot and which looks best while hiding. The Focus ST is the same price as a Focus RS was for what is half the car if that. Gear stick is too high and is beaten on most areas by its competitors. The Fiesta handles better, is cheaper and just as quick in the real world if you drive it properly. The performance edition offers no more acceleration that's just wishful thinking. Plus... and any car that has a pano roof kills the 0-62 and the handling
0-60times down to drivers, imo, I've had mine at a baw hair above 6secs,
The Fiesta is a better drive on the twisites
Wish we got the new gen in America:(
And this video is the reason why you use an odd number of challanges in video's like this ;)
You had both cars and you didn’t drag race them? Literally skipped the entire video to see how well the fez would do and nothing lol
uff interesting 0-60 time haha. It is no automatic so dont floor it after it launched :D
I love the Fiesta ST
40.8mpg?
Jeez. I should of just bought an fiesta ST.
My fiesta st-line 140 is doing about 37mpg 🤦🏻♂️
I typically get somewhere between 25-27mpg avg in my ST. Focus
It went in for some warranty repair and I was given a Puma 155 hybrid ST line.
The dash was saying 37mpg but I was chucking in same amount of fuel so I calculated it to be around 22mpg .
Which is diabolical for a 1.litre
Nice Ford i got one fiesta St but i want more fun give the I30N more njoyabele for me 👍😄
@Chris yes okay thankyou!
@Chris they were sold for UK market only. This has been verified and confirmed by ford UK and 600 in number pal. Whether anybody has exported them to Europe after they purchased is viable. But pls don't tell me to check my facts when they are 100% correct Chris. UK only production run..
“Performance Edition' Fiesta ST. Limited to just 600 units, and on sale from June, the model is exclusively three-door - and exclusive to the UK.” - Ford.
@Chris kid?!? Really? Stupid!? I don't think there is any requirement for you to resort to name calling. The information is all over Ford's website. All over the performance edition brochures. And clearly states UK run only. So by your comments other than insulting me you in essence stating ford is being false in their advertising for the performance edition.. enjoy the rest of your evening and if name calling could be refrained from that would be appreciated
@@robf9147 thanks Rob for highlighting and reinforcing what I was trying to explain to Chris before he resorted to name calling
40mpg in a Fiesta ST, does this man even touch the pedals?
Don't know what that really means but my one does 7.2 litres to 100km
The fiesta is afcoarse gonna win the fuel consumption cause it's a Three cilinder ,very light on fuel
I prefer my mps.lots of torq steer and a raw fun car.
That top left fuel figure is rubbish - barely ever correct! And also, how many of the focus 1600 miles was running the DS Stage 1?
Those 0-60 were really shit! Road surface must be the reason?
This is Numpty play. Ffs
Get them on a track with two good drivers
Fiesta ST is great on gravel.
That fiesta at owner is such a drip😂
I like the exterior of both of them, just the interior let’s them down. Not even an option of a digital cockpit, just some very boring bland dials
The startup on that fiesta sounds horrible! If my car sounded like that i would bring it back to the shop!
Focus ST has 420NM of torque not 310
Jammie is compensating for something not as Macho as his Focus ST 😂
Should've done a brake test
Weirdest comparison test ever. Sure the Focus is quicker and it ought to be being the larger more powerful car but if you see every other person reviewing these cars they all say the Fiesta is the more playful fun car to drive and is more exciting than the Focus. You really should get your hands on a Polo GTI or an Abarth 595 and test it against cars in the same class. Would be more interesting for sure but hey that’s my opinion of course :)
It’s not a detuned version of the RS it’s a new engine completely. Also it’s got more than 310nm of torque 🤷🏻♂️
40.8 over 200 is not a comparison
So you dropped a test so you could have a draw..