Century Arms BFT47 Core Tabletop Review and Field Strip
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- 0:00 Century Arms BFT47 Tabletop Review and Field Strip
0:28 Why a bulged front trunnion?
3:40 A look at the BFT47
6:07 Field Strip
10:56 In the Range Video
12:32 Do you Need a BFT?
13:14 Thank YOU Patrons!
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Receiver is 1.5mm
7days ago?
Is this a glitch in the matrix?
Hey, Graham. Uhhh, That Russian 5.45....
You know....i've got an extra kidney I've been thinking about parting ways with.
No, I upload videos weeks, sometimes months in advance. Our Patrons get to see them when they're uploaded, everyone else gets to wait.
Follow up video?
This rifle is a different breed, just ran about 500 rounds through mine that I just bought and it came out of the box accurate as hell. Idk if I got lucky but I had no issues, no malfunctions, the trigger pull is light, I just love it. Amazing AK!!
Contrary to what the internet keeps repeating, Century's AK's of today are not the same that they were 5-7 years ago.
Nice solid review. A lot of hate for century AKs for obvious reasons but if they improved, it’s nice to get an honest take.
I've been lucky I guess had tons of century arms aks though the years never had a bad one
I like what I'm hearing so far on this rifle.
The horn durability test got me haha. It seems as though they’ve addressed most of the critiques of the VSKA being the side rail and cleaning rod. After the field strip, my only gripe is the lightened bolt carrier. I found that on my VSKA it caused excessive bolt velocity and it started peening on the rear trunnion because it was impacting so hard. I wish they’d use a full weight carrier. That being said, my VSKA made it just fine through 5,000 rounds.
I'll wait until AKOU does a 5000 round torture test.
But can he do it without modifying the gun? It's always a disappointment to see long-term tests only to find out parts have been swapped, suppressor used etc. All of that alters the performance of a firearm.
@@GBGuns I agree...that's about the only thing I don't like about his reviews.
Rob ski tested the vska without any type of modifications
If so that's testament to the gun. Quite often I see he installs a KNS piston, a can, installs retainer plates, etc.
@@GBGuns he typically runs an OSS can and runs the factory piston. I've never seen him do any mods during his 5000 round test that would increase the longevity of the rifle, and in fact quite the opposite.
I love what century has done with these btf's. Zav & wasar's might want 2 step up there game. I own all 3. The bft will run with ether one. Not yesterday's century for damn sure
You're killing me, evens the range video!?! Just bought one and I'm jonesing to see you shoot it!!! Great table top review!
Sorry, I filmed one once already but lost the footage, haven't made the 3-hr round trip back out to the woods to try again yet.
Well done 👏
Approaching 100k subscribers, Great job.
Thanks, it's been a slow climb without using the usual gimmicks, but I think we've got a higher-quality audience as a result.
I had that same face punching M90NP. Took one round to adjust my cheek weld... 🙄
I hadn't even heard about this BFT. Thanks for the video GB!
It's brand new! Yeah the stock angle on those Zastavas can be rough, don't know why. It has to be intentional for some benefit
Quality and century arms are not words I would use in the same sentence. Unless proceeded by lack of.
What was your experience?
Graham Baates probably just regurgitated trash talking he’s been reading since the ras47 days and assumes everything century has is garbage no questions asked and zero personal experience with them.I have a vska, zpapm70, zpap92, and a Sam7. The vska actually has held up extremely well with very little wear and tear besides the normal wear and tear. No headspacing issues or anything. People just keep up the bullsh*t trash talk about century without even owning or shooting the rifle. Easier to repeat the same lies that have been floating around for years. While the vska is not a zastava or a Sam7, the vska performs very well. Plus it passed rob skis torture tests and had very little wear and tear on the parts.same on my vska. I would assume the boy will perform the same. Ppl need to stop repeating the crap if they have zero clue of what they’re talking about
I'm looking forward to shooting one of the BFTs . The VSKA I own is built a like Panzer and runs great . It's nice to see American companies are building better quality AKs .
Sounds like Taurus's old reputation.
That's all behind them .
Fabulous in depth video. I just got 1 of these.I now have Ak fever.
Welcome to the club! AKs are fun!
Companies can change in quality. Back in The day Mossberg was considered the bottom end of American shotguns but they make some great stuff now.
Yep. I remember growing up Remington was a household name for quality firearms, now the new owners won’t honor Remington Arms warranties because QC didn’t exist and we all got robbed thinking we were buying another famously awesome piece of engineering. Nope, chambers with burrs seems to be the standard for what I read.
Request for accuracy video... there still aren't many on YT on this rifle.
Great material and thanks.
Great video. Yes, Please do an accuracy test. We don't see enough actual accuracy tests with AK platform rifles. Many AK's are capable of good accuracy. I have had (and still have a few) several that can group well under 3'' at 100 yards and some that can do 1 1/2'' with ammo they prefer
A lot of people seem to ig ore that Soviet/Russian doctrine limited infant try engagements to within 300m. 3moa is plenty accurate to hit a torso at 300m
@@GBGuns All of the AK variants I've had except 1 have been capable of 3'' at 100 yards with the ammo they preferred. A well-built, well maintained AK variant with its preferred ammo should be capable of 3'' at 100 yards. My sole exception was a milled receiver Norinco Mak that literally would not stay on a 5-gallon bucket at 50 yards. I bought it new and believe the 2 faults with this one was a poorly installed gas piston. The piston flopped around pretty good where it attached to the end of the carrier. It also had a fairly rough and oversized bore
Y’all may have a hard time believing this but I got 3 shots in one slightly elongated hole at 100 Meters with a Century BFT47 and Tula, shooting from a bench off sandbags but for them sights I quit for the day before my shooting went downhill tainting the day.
I believe the front trunnion is 4140 steel, not the s7 tool steel found in the VSKA AK-47
So they combined design elements from Yugo and Slovak pattern AKM.
CAI gets a lot of flak for their quality control and to be honest they deserve it, but they have sold good quality rifles too.
The VZ58 that was sold by them as VZ2008 was indeed excellent. I hope this rifle turns out to be reliable.
Early m70ab2 also!
Difference in importing vs assembling vs building
Thanks for the review I just bought one but it's not made it to the house yet. Lots of people saying bad things about it but looks to me like it going to be a good rifle. Just not a chrome lined barrel. I don't think that going to matter much my hunting rifles are not chrome lined either.
If you don't shoot a lot of corrosive ammo there's really not much reason to have a chrome-lined barrel or take the inherent wear and potential accuracy issue that comes with chrome lining.
We'll get this out to the range soon. I already filmed a range video once but lost the data some how...now to do it all over again....
Same
Thanks as always for the great content brother! I truly believe century is putting their best efforts here. And from what I've heard it's paying off. How do you think it will hold up over time?
I've seen no reason to doubt them. Aside from seeing the new manufacturing myself, going through Thunder Ranch's course with my own Century rifle and seeing others with various round counts perform without issue is pretty convincing!
I would like the BFT 74 and BFT556 when they come out
I want nothing but success for American manufactured AK's. I hope this thing does well over time.
Likewise.
Absolutely U.S.A.
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Yeeeeeeeeeahr
My next firearm purchase is going to be my first AK. I've had plenty of rifles but I've never owned an AK. I'd like to have a rifle in 7.62 x 39 and it just doesn't make sense to me to spend 500 on an SKS when I can get an AK for not much more.
Just to let you know. This rifle will bey first AK that I ever bought. I just bought it last night. But have to wait till next week to get my hands on it.
This guy must be new to Ak’s
Well if you are welcome to the AK world! My own experience comes from a couple years of plinking followed by a few years of running them in 3-gun, the training with AKs at Front Sight, CENTER-T, and Thunder Ranch. I've authored a few AK articles for a handful of magazines. What's your experience so far?
Since you're new, take a look at our AK playlist, we've got over 80 videos in there spanning several years and models.
The vska was initially though of as very good until the rounds test showed that left bolt lug was taking no pressure at all due to bad machining timing. The vska is basically a single lock lug bolt, with the left lug as a decoration
Sounds like someone got a bad one. Did warranty take care of it?
Was curious about what you said regarding zastava? what has the company done in particular?
Looks great!
For a rifle-shaped hand grenade!
Seen a guy ringing plates at 500 yards with this gun.
would really like your opinion on the gen 3 psa ak's.
Can someone explain the zastava shazyness
I like your videos because you tell it like it is.
So if you can which one would you purchase the PSA V5 or one of the C arms .. vska or this BFT
I've not tried a PSA V5 so I can't speak to it, the VSKA is a rock-solid performer, the BFT takes the VSKA and turns the longevity and accuracy potential up a notch with a thicker receiver and bulged trunnion, but will also weigh more and be tougher to fit aftermarket furniture to.
I think century arms hit a home run with this AK of course the AK community is going to bash it because it is a century arms AK 47 it's basically just like a zastava zPAP but it doesn't have the Chrome line barrel and it's $400 cheaper
I have no idea why anyone would want a chrome-lined barrel unless they were planning on shooting corrosive ammo.
AKOU was hitting headshots at 500 yards wit this gun.
Could you do a video on the sig sauer p226 legion please
Just wish these barrels were treated. Nitride or chrome, don't care but they should have something for corrosion resistance.
Do you shoot a lot of corrosive ammo?
Is there a way to change the furniture on this specific rifle? Ex: folding stock, and wooden hand guard ? Just bought this rifle and looking for a solid company to buy those from that will fit well on this.
Check out APS Firearms they have a lot of Ak furniture even sell it in sets other then that not much options except gun broker
Not a huge AK fan but I think this model is pretty decent little rifle. Any cheap scope mounts you found that you like for them? So many cheap and inexpensive ones out there someone’s personal experience could help cut the options down is why I threw that out there.
The problem with the cheap ones is they can be soft metal. Works great until it gets bumped or removed for cleaning.
Because the US government isn't shady... Understatement of a lifetime
What does the US government have to do with a private company?
VSKAs are cheap aks and they get alot of hate, but I haven't seen any of these fail like they used to for a while now. I'll probably never buy one but it seems like they are past their shady past of grenade rifles.
@Kiril Belikov Got a link? and how many other times has this happened? I mean, crap happens with a lot of other makes/models and over time, a company learns from their mistakes and refines their QA process of process of making guns. I can understand if this happened maybe 5 or more times. One time (and an obscure one at that), though?
I read somewhere that all Pontiac Fieros were fire traps in the 80s, too. The real truth is that the initial model year (1984) had engine fire issues. Those issues were quickly resolved and the model ran through 1988-1989 with none catching fire, yet it's forever written that all of them were fire traps. I owned a MY 1986 and put maybe 50K miles on it...it never caught fire and I never knew anyone that owned one that did. This is an example of how stories get accepted as fact when there's little fact involved. It's also an example of someone owning a frowned-upon product that didn't have the issues folks insisted existed. There are folks that have tested the VSKA that had none of the issues that most of the AK community insists are dangerous. Forum lore is just that. If they were that dangerous, you'd definitely be seeing more than one case of it happening, as gun shops have never stopped selling these guns.
@Kiril Belikov I tagged the wrong guy...sorry about that. I could've sworn there was another guy commenting here but I don't see his comments anymore.
Hey Graham, I was wondering what, if ever, the BFT stands for. Thanks
According to their website: Bulged/forged front trunnion
I have a bft-47 . It is very accurate ! Check it out way out! Two ,three hundred yard accurate!
Hi I got a question I’ve been looking for a AK but I want one between 900-600 that are reliable and that has a classic look to it and every video I watch is from yrs ago or don’t say the price since prices did change
After shipping, price of firearm and taxes. I spent a little over $900.
Is this a good ak47? I want one ak but there are so many ak that I don’t know which one to choose
It's well-built for sure, only time will tell how it holds up. AKs used to be the rifle folks got to abuse. This one is built for abuse with the bulged trunnion.
As I will always say with Century Arms AKs. I'll be comfy after I check the head spacing.
Accuracy test please
Ive been f'ed by century enough. I year warranty from date of MANUFACTURE NOT PURCHASE is only a year meaning they want to distance themselves from their product as quickly as possible. I has a WASR2 it was crap had bolt over base issiues. I had a M74 that had a screwed up chamber that required a barrel replacement. So they suddenly decided to make one correctly? Did they pay you or give you something for the praise?
The VSKAs are solid. Plenty of evidence out there on that, this is another offering. I visited the factory a couple of years ago for Ballistic Magazine and saw the most consistent way of producing AKs I've seen yet (I've been to other factories). They learned from their mistakes.
Not really suddenly. Graham said below that he'd tested his VSKA at Thunder Ranch and it had no issues. He's not the only guy on YT that has tested the gun and not run into issues. And you're right about WASRs. The only difference between WASRs and CAI US-made AKs is that WASRs get a get-out-of-jail- free card, probably since they're imports.
I think you're picking what you want to believe and ignoring what you don't.
Zastava has lifetime warranty on zpaps.
Shit tier unlined barrel. They throw around the 4150 cmv moniker hoping people with think its chrome lined or nitrided.
Chrome lining is really only of value for machine guns or corrosive ammo.
@Kiril Belikov that's what I said. It's an unlined barrel, which when paired with bi-metal bullets is not a good combination. Hence it's shit-tier
If you can afford to wear out a barrel you can afford to replace the barrel.
@Graham Baates barrel swaps on AKs are such a simple task.......
I had a century VZ2008 with an unlined barrel that keyholed after 8k rds.
@@chrisfly777300ER It’s unlined but it’s not untreated. They nitride the barrels which makes them nearly as resistant to wear and corrosion as chrome lining. At least for civilian purposes.
The trigger/hammer spring on actual AK’s are two springs combined and twisted together. This is a stronger method then century’s single spring.
@Kiril Belikov I would trust the proper method of hammer/trigger spring manufacturing then century’s cheap garbage.
@Kiril Belikov what for like gamer fire control groups lol? I’d rather stick to what the Soviets used. And yes, I have seen a RAS 47 break it’s trigger/hammer spring.
@@thomkatt "I would trust the proper method of hammer/trigger spring manufacturing then century’s cheap garbage." This can EASILY be swapped out. As well, as Kiril stated, how many trigger springs on these guns are you familiar with failing? Gotta prove it's an issue before claiming it's an issue, IMO.
That trigger spring is a mfr to put back in the gun it will f u up the braided ones are so much easier to take in and out .
@Kiril Belikov he clicked on this video to look for a way to hate
This rifle bulges my trunnion.
Lmfaoooo
It’s bulged forged not front
But it's also the front trunion That is bulged and forged.
What has Zastava done that’s shady?
That was going to be my question
What does the word CORE mean in the description?
That's how it was named at the time, they may have changed naming conventions
@@GBGuns Thanks for replying - So it's just a name? - I'm looking into two rifles, one labeled BFT47 Core and the other is labeled as BFT47 KONA - Is the wood the only difference then? - Thanks again
Likely the wood is the difference.
Half a millimeter never improved my reputation 😀
Lol 😆 I had to. As a proud owner of a C39V2
That half mm makes the receiver 50% stronger than the thin 1mm!
I’m curious, what type of shady stuff did zastava do ?
I just bought a Zastava zpap m70. It is a fantastic ak. They are not doing anything shady. When Century Arms used to import the Zastava brand AK-47's and did their conversions on them they were doing a horrible job and ruined Zestavas reputation. So now the partnership between Century Arms and Zestava is over with and Zestava imports their guns and does the conversions themselves.
The serbian govt is questionable!
I thought the trunnion was forged 4140 steel
Why did my bft not come with an optics mount or cleaning rod?
Maybe you ordered a different trim level?
@@GBGuns ok I didn’t know there was different trims but thanks for the reply.
@@davids970 I don't know if there are either (gotta check the website). Wereviewed this at launch when there was only one.
@@GBGuns I 🫡
I may be wrong but I think the BFT47 Core is more basic and no cleaning rod or optic mount.
3:40
This must be what Joe envisions when he thinks up magazine bans. It just "disappears into thin air"
It’s funny you mention not doing business with shady country’s,when holding a gun made by a shady company from VT
What's shady about Century?
@@GBGuns I personally know someone who had one of their RPK’s go out of headspace after only a couple thousand rounds, and they refused to warranty it, or those 556 barreled tantal’s out there keyholing right out of the box, and I could just keep going
@Kiril Belikov century has a pattern of putting out bad guns,there’s a very well know video of a guy shooting a brand new century 74 and having it explode in his hands,the list could go on,and yes everyone puts out a bad gun here or there,but century makes a habit of it
@Kiril Belikov oh but they did called a M74, and they didn’t even listed on their website either
@Kiril Belikov really why does classic firearms have a listing for century arms Ak74 parts kit builds and show them as not having a bulged trunnion then
I thought it was "bulged forged trunnion" Not "bulged front trunnion" for BFT with emphasis being on key parts being forged instead of cast because of all the hate on cast parts being junk weak and breakable🤔
Both names are correct. Century has been using forged since the VSKA but everyone was too busy being haters to read about it.
@@GBGuns I mean in defense of the haters casting is absolutely garbage in this type of application, especially with small parts under extreme heat and pressure😱, and that's a very heavy wound to heal =P.
@@ejb992 is everything forged on the BFT?
3:20 "(you) don't have to fear that your actually supporting a government that might be a little bit shady". Come on bruh, The USA government is not squeaky clean either.
No it's nit,as I very well know. I spent more than a decade in the intelligence community.
@@GBGuns Wow, you can't make this shit up! That explains it. You're literally a fed.
@@GBGuns America has the most corrupt, and evil govt on earth.
I feel like they went out of the way to make them ugly.
Also, i want it to work, but i doubt it will be worth a damn.
Why's that? The VSKAs are rock stars already
@@GBGuns I thought they were notoriously awful? Trunions breaking, barrels falling out.
The C39s had issues, and early early VSKAs had a few issues, then they completely changed the way they make the guns, now they're solid. I wrote an article about it in Ballistic Magazine a couple of years ago, then took a VSKA to Thunder Ranch where it had to eat brass-cased frangible for three days. Also flawless performance. That story was in Tactical Life Magazine.
@@GBGuns Interesting, what about the Ras47? I may be confusing their various AK models.
C39
VSKA
RAS47
Is there one which stands out?
I think the Ras was the model that had all kinds of problems
The front trunnion is. Bulged because it's made from pot metal
You struggle with a short attention span, don't you?
🙄
These rifles should not be more money then an ar,,,, not worth the money
They require a lot more work to build than simple assembly of an AR.
I very much appreciate your effort and contents. However, I don’t think we can argue that there’s no country or government currently out there that’s been doing more sketchy stuff than our own government. Ukraine is just one example (i.e. bio labs, arming nazis, supporting unconstitutional coupes, toppling the constitutionally elected foreign government and etc.) while using our own tax dollars. For that very reason I personally prefer to buy foreign than domestic brands. Can’t just openly support the corruption, my tax dollars are already doing that inadvertently. Sorry there, I’m gonna have to disagree with your views. Thanks for the video though. 👍
No disagreement at all, but there's a big difference between buying an AK from a foreign, state-run factory like Zastava and a US private company like Century Arms.
@@GBGuns thanks for your reply and shown professionalism. It’s also worth noting outside of the United States majority firearm producers are either partially or fully owned by their governments. Unlike U.S. majority other countries do not allow average citizens to own private firearms, thus their manufacturers mainly produce their products for their military and law enforcement agencies. Therefore, it makes sense for governments having a full or partial control over their arms manufacturing processes since government is their primary consumer. Turkey carried genocide over Armenia or Israel even to this date occupies and carries mass killings over Palestinians but that doesn’t mean I will stop from buying Canik or IWI products although they (both companies) support and equip their national militaries. Zastava makes quality products. Since Russian products are banned now (“thanks” to our anti-American government’s laws and regulations) and Bulgarian, Polish AKs are hard to come by in my opinion Serbian AKs are much better quality combloc products in the market by a landslide that your money can buy currently. No current main production American AK can come even close to fit and finish and overall quality of Zastava AKs especially at their sub $1K price tags. As a public reviewer I think it’s best to keep personal/individual political, religious views/beliefs out of the content in order to provide unbiased opinions. Thanks for your reply once again. And I hope I didn’t offend anyone. Take care!
@@SOBIsHobbies as one who owns American, Russian, Romanian, and Serbian AKs I'd say you have really lucked out (or been unlucky) the Serbian AKs I own have a worse fit and finish than Romanian guns. The nicest I've seen have been Polish or American.
@@GBGuns Well, maybe I’m unlucky for not being able to get some Russian AKs when they’re still available. But it can also be said about you (being unlucky) for getting a lemon Zastava AK. Both of my Zastava products (M70 and M91) have been great. If you think/consider Romanian AK’s to have a better quality over Serbian AK’s then there’s nothing much to argue here, unfortunately. 😁 I won’t argue that Russian, Bulgarian, Polish AK’s are arguably superior compared to Serbian AK’s. However, Romanian AK’s have always been considered as entry level/lower tier AK’s even during Soviet era. I know it because I was born and raised in former USSR country and both of my grandfathers also my father served as conscripts in USSR Army and Navy. Thus, it’s safe to say I do know a thing or two about combloc military equipment and their history. In terms of American AK’s, so far I’ve been impressed by KUSA AK products but since they’re still relatively new it remains to be seen how they’ll perform overtime. But at under $1K price mark I’ll be hard pressed for not wanting Zastava AK over other entries at that price range.
He seems wet behind the ears
I ran AKs in 3-Gun, took the CENTER-T AK course, ran an AK at Front Sight's carbine course, and the Thunder Ranch AK Urban Rifle course, so I guess you could say I'm still learning.
U can't compare vepr and zastava to a piece of shit century arms hand grenade lol
What was your experience?
@GBGuns they don't have any experience, so that's why they regurgitate nonsense they've heard online.
both of them are over priced, not worth the money!
Извини Грэм, но Сентури это дерьмо. И свою репутацию они сами себе заработали. Лутше уже Райли Дифенс 😉
Удачи Грэм 👊
Ya ne soglasen. Century ranshe imeli problemi, priznali, i razrabotali. Segondya vsye horosho iz nikh. VSKA horosho, uznaem esli BFT tozhe.
@@GBGuns время покажет 😉
Tochno. I prosto ustal lyudi kotorie prosto skazhut protiv Century no ne imeyut svoyu opit. Ya vsegda hochu otvetit: Ya posetil zavod, a ti? ya sovershil kurs Thunder Ranch, ispozoval VSKA, a ti? Bolshintvo tekh protiv prosto ne znayut, no smotrel gluposti na TH-cam i chitayut eto zakon.
@@GBGuns понимаешь Грэм, я видел и стрелял из оружие Ижевской Фабрики зделаной для охоты, карабины Сайга и тд. И видел Сентури ... качество отличается как день и ночь. Сравнивать даже не с чем. Это моё мнение. Металлургия Сентури не самая лутшая, да они пытаются что то там изправить но в общем всё остаётся как было.
Shady dealings? Yeah ok boomer whatever you say.
Since you've grown up with the internet I'm surprised you lack the ability to use it for research.
@@GBGuns Notice all the hate for the rifle and the company but when you ask "what are your experiences" they don't reply back. If there is a comment, they're normally nonspecific such as "they make crap or "I hate Century Arms" These topics bring out all the armchair quarterbacks
@@frankbrowning328 I've noticed this too. They never respond to Graham. Every story I hear is a "my friend's uncle has a friend who's cousin had a...." It's never a first or second hand example. I'm not saying century has never put out anything bad and many people remember the RAS47s not being so good. That's fair criticism but the VSKA truly isn't a bad rifle. Some of the first batch may have had some teething issues but it's pretty well documented by now that they hold up quite well. I have one along with several import AKs and some palmettos. All of them have been fine. Some of the palmettos get crap too. They are also (for the most part) absolutely fine. Palmettos biggest problem is inconsistent QC. They rush things to fulfill high demand and let a few duds slip, but overall I've been impressed with their AKs.
@@frankbrowning328 thats right, where is the proof!
junk
What was your experience?
no experience to support his comment!