Your builder has the patiance of a saint. I couldnt have ten guys joking around while im working on something that needs so much attention. Really nice build, i love the low rider st. Question, are nadal and sandy brothers?
@@TorqueCustomCycles my friend, congratulations for the clockwork precision. I love the way you used a screwdriver when tightening the pinion sprockets. I wish I was not thousands of miles away so that you could work on my ultra. Thanks so much for the extensive explanations over the work.
This is got to be the best bike video i have ever watched,,That bike mechanic should be paid the moon the way he does his work.Everything he did was 110% from pumping up the lifters to using lots of break in lube..The start up with a new cam can destroy that cam in minutes if it doesn’t get oil or have start up lube on it..👍👍 for the Mechanic.!!
EXCELLENT combination!! Torque Custom Cycles did an EXCELLENT job putting it all together as well....fantastic Sandy!! Enjoy Brudda....get ready to be using a LOT more gas cuz you are gonna be hitting it wide open everywhere.... :D. Special thanks to Mike for allowing all these guys to hang around while he did all this work....takes a TON OF PATIENCE to work in that kind of environment!!!
@@TorqueCustomCycles If I lived up that way, you would be getting my business for sure man!! I absolutely LOVE that you suggest all the extra work in the heads, as thats where all the failures happen! Wish I would have done it when I did my cam for sure. (I did the woods because the 30/30 was in short supply when I did mine).
Man, it's always a great time hanging out with the boys at the local shop!! I grew up doing this with my Dad at our local paint and body shop and a trim shop, just awesome!! I have the 30/30 in my 17 Ultra and I love it! My man in this video is a great mechanic! If I lived there I would definitely be at his shop!
I know people bug out about the plastic cuffs, but apparently there's never been a documented failure of them in harley M8. They use them on performance car engines too like the Chevy LS engines like Corvette. I think you only need to remove them and put the S&S ones on if you're doing high lift cams like a .590 or .610. Now days I just recommend people to use magnetic lifterholders(30$ from FuelMoto) and don't bother with the cuffs or removing the tappet blocks for anything other than changing the color of the blocks. Instead you can pull out the camplate and oil pump and the lifters fall out of the tappet holes, so you can replace them with new ones easily from underneath, and then hold them up with magnetic lifter holders, and put the rest of the engine back together. FuelMoto recommends that if you're going to remove them, disassemble the cam chest, then heat the engine block under the bolt for 5 minutes with a heat gun. Or get an induction heating coil and get the bolts very hot that way. I broke a cuff bolt on my Fat Boy, and it ruined my summer because I had to pay a shop to extract it.
I am contemplating this now. I have the new cuffs, but not sure I want or need to install them. (Wood 22xe cam) As a machinist for 40+ years, I find it hard to believe excessive loctite in aluminum would cause a bolt that size to snap. Seems like a poor quality fastener to me. I have broken other bolts on the bike torquing to spec with a good calibrated wrench.
Sandy what a hooligan bike you have! Wow! Your neighbors are gonna be really happy. The sound: superb The looks without the bags: much better Ride safe and enjoy your 'new bike'
Dang Shift!!! You turned your bike from stock to BadAss in one episode. Watched the whole thing and was great. Congratulations! Seems crazy to say but can’t wait for my Road Glide to go out of warranty. Haha
Fantastic!!!!!!!!! Great content !!! Mad Max watch out!! LOL I hope you do more video on the tuning and Dyno great job Mike and crew awesome power Sandy!! Nice to see all the boys supporting the effort!!
I vent through a Trask trans cover and also installed 1/4" threaded vent nipples on my S&S Stealth back plate to vent each head to the atmoshere. Works great, no residue getting sucked via vacuum into the intake trac. Way prefer the Trask to the vented dip stick.
@@amberbali8881 keeping that snot out of the combustion chamber will make our engines happy... everything I have watched and read, indicates that the Trask transmission vented cover is superior because it is at the highest point of the M8 case. less oil sloshing around in that area when riding the bike. the vented dipstick is lower than the transmission cover on M8s and suffers from the sloshing oil, which in turn, allows more oil than desired to vent past the internal umbrella valves. although the dipstick method works, the chances of oil migrating to the filter is much greater than the transmission setup. all in all, the idea is to allow the engine to breath and keep snot from fouling the piston tops : - )
Sounds Great Sandy, Glad to see you finally going to 2 into 1,.... As for the Love-Jugs.... Sounds like you starting up the jet to get onto the taxi-way before take off, lol, 😁
Excellent vid! Mike is a hell of a mechanic, i really like his attention to details. I just bought a ‘23 low rider s and i may take the trip south to have mike do this same job on my 117!
If I could give two thumbs up or more, I would. I thoroughly enjoyed the detail. Mechanic Mike works with precision, accuracy and care. He clearly knows motors. I can't wait to see some ride reviews. A good question, how much total time did this installment take? Second edit...Geeeeesh, it sounds amazing.
I'm getting ready to install this same cam so this was very informative especially the part about the rocker arm studs. I'll have to contact the best tool shop in the universe (new jersey discount tools, ten minutes from Torque) about getting that socket.
Sandy that was one of the most informative videos on a stage 2 I have ever watched.. great camera work.. love watching you guys interact with each other lol.. very knowledgeable shop for you guys to have close to home.. can’t wait for the Dyno run!! What’s the numbers lol
Inspirational to say the least! Making me wanna look for a second job..... You missed the shot with the fire belching out of the pipe but I'm sure we'll see it soon enough!
The luv jugs probably only make a difference on twin cam motors. M8 are oil cooled and in my experience do not get near as overheated ( i ride long distance several times a year)
My 2009 Superglide with a stage 1 96, runs a 240 head temp measured with an infrared temp gun next to the spark plug. No fans. My 2021 Road Glide 107 stage 1 averaged a 325 head temp without fans, and now averages 267, for a 58 degree temp drop with Love Jugs. My 2022 Low Rider ST 117 was 300 degrees hard temp stock, and now averages 249, for a 51 degree temp drop with the Love Jugs. So yes you are right. The newer bigger motors are running much hotter, and even with fans, they are still hotter that the old 96 Twin Cams with a tuner. I’m thinking that If I did a Power Vision tune on the 2021 and 2022, it would drop the temps even more.
Sandy, Pretty sure S&S recommends no more then .0005 runout with that camplate and oil pump. Just a FYI. I am sure there is some room for play and hope that shop knows that. Just wanted to give you a heads up.
Congrats Sandy, sounds amazing this was an absolutely great video. Give props to mike for letting you video the process. How long was the actual job? Thanks for sharing . waited until tonight so I could watch it straight though.
The Jim's fans come with a thermostat. Love Jugs do not. Consider installing the Fueling sump plug, which is shorter and helps prevent potential sumping. The stock sump plug is too long and blocks oil flow.
@@HOLYSHIFT hey sandy, I'd love to get an ST, and I've seen everyone on you tube with one... But You, hands down, have in my view, The Best Overall mods of Harley Lowrider ST out there. I'd do almost exactly the same treatment to a Fast Johnie as yours with the suspension upgraded and the wrap around tail light Advanblack kit on the trunk. Be safe on your Iron Butt ride.
Love these install \ build videos, especially watching a professional do their thing 👍 I hate to say it, but GG might just sound a bit meaner than MM 🤔
Great video. The only thing I noticed. You said you were bulleting proofing the engine. You should have changed out the intake manifold to Screamin Eagle or S & S. Just my opinion.
So, I just watched an older video where you said you didn't want to void the warranty and you put the Tab slip ons on the bike. What changed? I would love to hear your sawicki in person one day.
I didn’t want to void my warranty first year . Wanted to let bike run stock for a break in period and after a year that I see all is good and no defects in manufacturing- I upgraded to stage 2.
Funny enough I researched my build I want to do. So far you have chosen all the same components. One thing I 'm curious about. Did ypu go wity the catted sawicki or the decatted?
LOVE your content Sandy!!🤘🤘🤘 Did you ever consider the Star F35A cam? In that case, why did you go for the 30/30 instead? Really leaning towards the F35A.... Thanks!!
Your builder has the patiance of a saint. I couldnt have ten guys joking around while im working on something that needs so much attention. Really nice build, i love the low rider st. Question, are nadal and sandy brothers?
Thank you
@@TorqueCustomCycles my friend, congratulations for the clockwork precision. I love the way you used a screwdriver when tightening the pinion sprockets. I wish I was not thousands of miles away so that you could work on my ultra. Thanks so much for the extensive explanations over the work.
This is got to be the best bike video i have ever watched,,That bike mechanic should be paid the moon the way he does his work.Everything he did was 110% from pumping up the lifters to using lots of break in lube..The start up with a new cam can destroy that cam in minutes if it doesn’t get oil or have start up lube on it..👍👍 for the Mechanic.!!
EXCELLENT combination!! Torque Custom Cycles did an EXCELLENT job putting it all together as well....fantastic Sandy!! Enjoy Brudda....get ready to be using a LOT more gas cuz you are gonna be hitting it wide open everywhere.... :D. Special thanks to Mike for allowing all these guys to hang around while he did all this work....takes a TON OF PATIENCE to work in that kind of environment!!!
Thank you. I love having people around. These people are the reason I can afford to live the lifestyle I do. 😂😂😂
@@TorqueCustomCycles If I lived up that way, you would be getting my business for sure man!! I absolutely LOVE that you suggest all the extra work in the heads, as thats where all the failures happen! Wish I would have done it when I did my cam for sure. (I did the woods because the 30/30 was in short supply when I did mine).
I told you Mike D, was the real deal, great mechanic and cool dude.
Yes brother I agree !
Man, it's always a great time hanging out with the boys at the local shop!! I grew up doing this with my Dad at our local paint and body shop and a trim shop, just awesome!! I have the 30/30 in my 17 Ultra and I love it! My man in this video is a great mechanic! If I lived there I would definitely be at his shop!
Sandy your bike sounds amazing. Thanks for sharing the install. Lots of fun ahead.
Builder did a great job!
Thanks for the video.
I appreciate the play by play on the install. The sound change with the new cam is incredible. Very cool video! Thanks.
Sounds amazing and I can tell you were grinning ear to ear as you rode it! 😊
You are 💯 right !
I know people bug out about the plastic cuffs, but apparently there's never been a documented failure of them in harley M8. They use them on performance car engines too like the Chevy LS engines like Corvette. I think you only need to remove them and put the S&S ones on if you're doing high lift cams like a .590 or .610.
Now days I just recommend people to use magnetic lifterholders(30$ from FuelMoto) and don't bother with the cuffs or removing the tappet blocks for anything other than changing the color of the blocks.
Instead you can pull out the camplate and oil pump and the lifters fall out of the tappet holes, so you can replace them with new ones easily from underneath, and then hold them up with magnetic lifter holders, and put the rest of the engine back together.
FuelMoto recommends that if you're going to remove them, disassemble the cam chest, then heat the engine block under the bolt for 5 minutes with a heat gun. Or get an induction heating coil and get the bolts very hot that way.
I broke a cuff bolt on my Fat Boy, and it ruined my summer because I had to pay a shop to extract it.
I am contemplating this now. I have the new cuffs, but not sure I want or need to install them. (Wood 22xe cam)
As a machinist for 40+ years, I find it hard to believe excessive loctite in aluminum would cause a bolt that size to snap. Seems like a poor quality fastener to me.
I have broken other bolts on the bike torquing to spec with a good calibrated wrench.
A lot of fun! Great video!
Congrats Sandy. I am salivating to do a cam install myself. I want the satisfaction of saying I did it.
I can’t wait to see the dyno numbers
Sandy what a hooligan bike you have! Wow! Your neighbors are gonna be really happy.
The sound: superb
The looks without the bags: much better
Ride safe and enjoy your 'new bike'
You are a frickin Dyna Bro now! Meshugene!!!!!
Best video I've seen yet! Awesome bunch of guys, having fun joking around and doing some excellent work on your bike..
Thanks
Wow! What a build, enjoyed every minute of it, sounds awesome...
That Lobe is nasty Sandy!! 🙌🏼
Great Cam!!
Very nice Sandy Great sound video great educational thank you
Congrat Sandy this video is better of the Hollywood movie for sure ,Mike is super professional bike sounds amazing 👏
Nice addition to your bike Holy Shift, be safe on that monster!
HOLY SHIFT SANDY! That bike sounds amazing. Have fun buddy.
Sounds amazing! Looking good Sandy!!!
Holy 30 30 Cam Batman. That’s a beast. Happy for you buddy. Hope to see ur new Gray Ghost soon
Awesome vid sandy thanks for putting it all in one vid,tons of information for the m8
Wow!! The bike sounds awesome!!! Can't wait to see the Dyno runs for hp and torque!! Enjoy!! The exhaust is outstanding as well!! Ride safe, Sandy!!
Amazing and excellent build, enjoyed every second 👏👏👏👍
Awesome, thank you!
Dang Shift!!! You turned your bike from stock to BadAss in one episode. Watched the whole thing and was great. Congratulations! Seems crazy to say but can’t wait for my Road Glide to go out of warranty. Haha
Sounds mint! That was awesome to watch....thank you 😎🇦🇺
Awesome video👍👍👍👍👍
Fantastic!!!!!!!!! Great content !!! Mad Max watch out!! LOL I hope you do more video on the tuning and Dyno great job Mike and crew awesome power Sandy!! Nice to see all the boys supporting the effort!!
🔥Very nice🔥 Congratulations Sandy👍🏾
This is exactly what I decided on fir my lowrider st… 3030 cam and sawicki exhaust.. .. also Kraus 10”risers and raptor pull back..
Awsome video and great work. I hope those people who live across the street from the shop love the sound of HD's!
Look great, sounds great! Like that 2into1! You woke up the beast 👍. Getting my S&S 475 in the Road King this weekend. Can't wait!
The Fueling vented dipstick is good... however, it is better to vent through the transmission cover using a Trask setup.
I vent through a Trask trans cover and also installed 1/4" threaded vent nipples on my S&S Stealth back plate to vent each head to the atmoshere. Works great, no residue getting sucked via vacuum into the intake trac. Way prefer the Trask to the vented dip stick.
@@amberbali8881 keeping that snot out of the combustion chamber will make our engines happy... everything I have watched and read, indicates that the Trask transmission vented cover is superior because it is at the highest point of the M8 case. less oil sloshing around in that area when riding the bike. the vented dipstick is lower than the transmission cover on M8s and suffers from the sloshing oil, which in turn, allows more oil than desired to vent past the internal umbrella valves. although the dipstick method works, the chances of oil migrating to the filter is much greater than the transmission setup. all in all, the idea is to allow the engine to breath and keep snot from fouling the piston tops : - )
@@richardrussell500 Correct.
Glenn’s the man
Looks great I can’t wait to see the numbers on the Dyno But you don’t need to change the valve springs unless you’re going over 500 lift cam
Bike sounds amazing!! Me thinking… I should get that exhaust for my bike!!! Great video
I love it!
Sounds Great Sandy, Glad to see you finally going to 2 into 1,.... As for the Love-Jugs.... Sounds like you starting up the jet to get onto the taxi-way before take off, lol, 😁
🤣
Bike sounds great really pulls what a feeling I’m sure to ride now.
Excellent build video. Mechanic is a real pro
Sounds great good job on the bike
Love it! Awesome video! The bike sounds awesome! Love to see how happy you got on the initial start!
Damn Sandy, that’s an awesome upgrade my man. Can’t wait to see the final dyno numbers when finished.
Subbed, I enjoy detailed install uploads like that. Now it's time to put mad max in his place.
Sandy your bike has become Godzilla hold it tight. Stay safe ..from London England 👍
Mike’s concentration is next level.
Congrats Sandy! It sounds wicked. Good luck with it! John's bike is awesome but Grey Ghost just might start haunting it.
Sounds real good too 😊
Congrats! Its a beast 💪
I told John u was going to love this set up
Sounds killer
Wow! The bike sounds great! Love the upgrades you've made so far!
Awesome video
Lol, good job!! Like these videos! Enjoy it, thanks Mike! ⚡️
Sandy, i'm upgrading my Lowrider ST stg 2 to stage 4 big bore 131 kit this weekend. i will try to update later
Wow !!!!! Big bore !
Beautiful beast!
RIDE SWIFT, RIDE SAFE…
👌💪🏍️💨🔥🔥🔥
Excellent vid! Mike is a hell of a mechanic, i really like his attention to details. I just bought a ‘23 low rider s and i may take the trip south to have mike do this same job on my 117!
Looks and sounds great!!
If I could give two thumbs up or more, I would. I thoroughly enjoyed the detail. Mechanic Mike works with precision, accuracy and care. He clearly knows motors. I can't wait to see some ride reviews.
A good question, how much total time did this installment take?
Second edit...Geeeeesh, it sounds amazing.
If it's not broken don't fix it my stock 114 is pretty fast
Sounds awesome.
Awesome sounds great 👍
I'm getting ready to install this same cam so this was very informative especially the part about the rocker arm studs. I'll have to contact the best tool shop in the universe (new jersey discount tools, ten minutes from Torque) about getting that socket.
Sandy that was one of the most informative videos on a stage 2 I have ever watched.. great camera work.. love watching you guys interact with each other lol.. very knowledgeable shop for you guys to have close to home.. can’t wait for the Dyno run!! What’s the numbers lol
Nice, Sandy. Much mazel - you'll need it to stay out of trouble. Looks like you might need a wheelie bar!!!😜
Thanks Fred. I need to control myself alright...
Bad ass my friend!!!!!!
Inspirational to say the least! Making me wanna look for a second job..... You missed the shot with the fire belching out of the pipe but I'm sure we'll see it soon enough!
Great video... that was fun :-)
Great video and nice seeing you make your bike YOURS! I see Mad Max spending more $$😂😂😂
John is in trouble, sounds good bro
Sounds great
Replacing the valve springs without removing the heads--pretty smart---do you have a P/N or name of that tool and where to purchase it? thanks
The luv jugs probably only make a difference on twin cam motors. M8 are oil cooled and in my experience do not get near as overheated ( i ride long distance several times a year)
My 2009 Superglide with a stage 1 96, runs a 240 head temp measured with an infrared temp gun next to the spark plug. No fans.
My 2021 Road Glide 107 stage 1 averaged a 325 head temp without fans, and now averages 267, for a 58 degree temp drop with Love Jugs.
My 2022 Low Rider ST 117 was 300 degrees hard temp stock, and now averages 249, for a 51 degree temp drop with the Love Jugs.
So yes you are right. The newer bigger motors are running much hotter, and even with fans, they are still hotter that the old 96 Twin Cams with a tuner.
I’m thinking that If I did a Power Vision tune on the 2021 and 2022, it would drop the temps even more.
Sandy,
Pretty sure S&S recommends no more then .0005 runout with that camplate and oil pump. Just a FYI. I am sure there is some room for play and hope that shop knows that. Just wanted to give you a heads up.
I think you have an extra zero in your number.
Ur the smartest one out the crew lol
John’s going to adding displacement.
Congrats Sandy, sounds amazing this was an absolutely great video. Give props to mike for letting you video the process. How long was the actual job? Thanks for sharing . waited until tonight so I could watch it straight though.
Thanks James. It took us 8 hours but we had quite a few distractions ... There were 15 people there at one point. It was a great time !
Sounds frickin good and probably does sound better than Mad Max
But I do have a 1994 FXSTC with a Thunderheader and nothing I mean nothing sounds better than that pipe with an Evo
Sandy bike sounds great John video of it didn’t do it justice , a lot of power on a lighter bike
The Jim's fans come with a thermostat. Love Jugs do not. Consider installing the Fueling sump plug, which is shorter and helps prevent potential sumping. The stock sump plug is too long and blocks oil flow.
great video!!! my goodness, that thing sounds amazing! but did I hear right….6 thousands crank runout? that’s a lot in reality.
Talk about covering all bases. Looks like a mechanically perfect build. Have you upgraded the suspension as well?
No I didn’t! Believe it or not - I’m very happy with the stock suspension and find no reason to change it !
@@HOLYSHIFT hey sandy, I'd love to get an ST, and I've seen everyone on you tube with one... But You, hands down, have in my view, The Best Overall mods of Harley Lowrider ST out there. I'd do almost exactly the same treatment to a Fast Johnie as yours with the suspension upgraded and the wrap around tail light Advanblack kit on the trunk. Be safe on your Iron Butt ride.
Maybe I missed it, but why wouldn't you get a bigger Throttle Body with those upgrades? Great content Sandy! Columbus Ohio
Love these install \ build videos, especially watching a professional do their thing 👍
I hate to say it, but GG might just sound a bit meaner than MM 🤔
Haha - soon we will ride side by side and compare!
Very nice upgrade and an Awesome sound……though not sure your neighbors will feel the same way
Great video. The only thing I noticed. You said you were bulleting proofing the engine. You should have changed out the intake manifold to Screamin Eagle or S & S. Just my opinion.
So, I just watched an older video where you said you didn't want to void the warranty and you put the Tab slip ons on the bike. What changed? I would love to hear your sawicki in person one day.
I didn’t want to void my warranty first year . Wanted to let bike run stock for a break in period and after a year that I see all is good and no defects in manufacturing- I upgraded to stage 2.
Sandy when are we going to see you riding a sport bike man ? Does anybody have a Busa to test drive?.
Great video Sandy !! Love the pipes and cam set up. sounds great!! Are you going to be at Sturgis this year? thanks
I really hope so - but I can’t commit yet
did you leave the plastic intake manifold in? that should have been the first thing to go!! S+S makes a nice aluminum intake manifold
Bike sounds amazing.. shod you upgrade the comp ramp?
Did you notice more vibration at all revs after the install? Did the dyno fix it?
Funny enough I researched my build I want to do. So far you have chosen all the same components. One thing I 'm curious about. Did ypu go wity the catted sawicki or the decatted?
Awesome video. What brand of springs? Feuling?
I don’t remember exactly- but we do mention it in the video
im looking the same setup but with stock pipe and tab slip on(like the look) are how much to do it again ? thanks
Nice detailed video. Do you keep the old parts?
Some of them I keep
LOVE your content Sandy!!🤘🤘🤘 Did you ever consider the Star F35A cam? In that case, why did you go for the 30/30 instead? Really leaning towards the F35A.... Thanks!!
I got good recommendations about the 30/30 and the ss 475 - and decided to go 30/30 …didn’t hear about the F35
do you have the Part number for the S&S springs you installed?
does sawicki still make the long exhaust for the low rider st? I only see midlength for the low rider st
Only medium from what I know