man I love your vids and the effort you put into them. Maybe one item missing from your comparisons is self cancelling indicators, a must in busy traffic. thx.
Thanks for the feedback, I will make sure that I include that in future videos. I appreciate the kind words, please share the videos with others who may find them interesting
The best vlogs for ideas of what is available on the market and comparison. These vlogs must take a long time to put together and he deserves a lot more subscribers and likes. In reality, he would probably get a lot more views if he fully tested individual bikes. As he says, the Hondas are expensive in comparison to the competitors but you get that back in reliability, quality and even resale value during time of ownership. The Honda CB500F makes total sense with an accountant's head on and by far the best all rounder in Thailand and hence it totally dominates the sector in Thailand. The Honda CB650R with the Neo Cafe Racer looks and those 4 cylinders and exhaust pipe is in my opinion the one to buy believing you do not need to ever upgrade.
Thanks for your support. Completely echo your comments about Hondas, the service cost is also relatively cheaper than Euro bikes. Full testing videos are coming soon.
Yoo new subie here. This is the 2nd video I have watched from your channel. Very informative indeed! I think some parts in this video are a bit too fast I had to pause to take a closer look. I have been eyeing my first expressway-legal motorbike and this comparison helped a lot! Thanks, mate. 👌
Hey! Thanks, this was made when I was starting out and I watched it again and cringed in some places. My newer videos are better paced and easier to watch (or so I think lol). Thank you for your support, dropping one more soon.
I would add the CF Moto CL-X 700 to this list now too. Forget the fact its a Chinese brand, It has a suped-up Kawasaki z650 engine and was designed by the same team as KTM. I've ridden all of these bikes and for me it's the best of the 4 in both looks and features. It has way more bells and whistles and way less plastic than the three here, all while managing to both cost and weigh about the same. It's also the only one with fully adjustable suspension and cruise control which are features normally reserved for high-end sports bikes.
I'm usually a hater of Chinese products, but I agree with CFMoto. They took the right path by working with KTM. I just hope that the new CFMoto twins don't have the notorious gasket leak that the 790/890 have.
Great video and audio quality. I liked the format of your other video better (650cc comparisons) because this one with all the memes and funny clips seem to just mimic Yammi noob. Whereas your other video had both charisma and rapid fire facts and figures laid out nicely. Why do you say the CB650R is not a beginner bike?
Thank you so much for this feedback! This is very helpful. And about the cb650 not being a beginner bike, i’m more in favor of starting off on smaller bikes so the power, weight and acceleration are more manageable and the rider can spend more of their mental bandwidth on technique. Although, I understand that in western countries, especially in US, 650s are also looked at as smaller as they’re being compared with 1000cc or bigger bikes. Just my 2 cents. I’m keen to hear your perspective on that.
@@SteveSweetness34 Awesome! I almost bought the Trident had it not been for the supply chain issues the US (i think most of the world) is going through right now. Maybe it’s for the better. At this point, might just build one for myself 😀
The Suzuki 645cc V-Twin engine IMHO has the most 'character' (and best exhaust note) of the 3 and is about as bullet proof as you can get. This engine can do some SERIOUS kms with only basic maintenance. Either way you wouldn't go wrong with either the MT-07 or SV650. Both are great bikes.
I would recommend a Z400 if you were to goto the 300-400cc family. In the middleweight class, for a beginner, my top 3 would be CB500F, SV650 and the Trident 660 depending on interest and availability. you could also watch the lightweight naked bikes comparison video that i posted yesterday.
Reliability! The Duke 390 is fun to ride and has a lot of bells and whistles but I've had several Duke390 owners complain about heating and electronics issues on them. Kawasaki Z400 is a much less stressed engine and overall platform is more sturdy. Having owned a Kawasaki ZX6R for 3 yrs now, I can confirm that Kawi's are almost as reliable as most other Japanese bikes. Hope this helps.
@@RiderXp thanks mate. I know you are trying to fit as much information as you can but a bit slower makes it easier to absorb all the valuable info. Keep up the good work mate
Well, in western countries the average driving speeds are a little higher for 300cc to keep up with regular traffic. A for global environment, eventually electric will take over everything and that would be one of the major solutions.
Ever wondered how many CCs should you first motorcycle have? Watch: th-cam.com/video/S4hOzGn1neY/w-d-xo.html
man I love your vids and the effort you put into them. Maybe one item missing from your comparisons is self cancelling indicators, a must in busy traffic. thx.
Thanks for the feedback, I will make sure that I include that in future videos. I appreciate the kind words, please share the videos with others who may find them interesting
The best vlogs for ideas of what is available on the market and comparison.
These vlogs must take a long time to put together and he deserves a lot more subscribers and likes.
In reality, he would probably get a lot more views if he fully tested individual bikes.
As he says, the Hondas are expensive in comparison to the competitors but you get that back in reliability, quality and even resale value during time of ownership.
The Honda CB500F makes total sense with an accountant's head on and by far the best all rounder in Thailand and hence it totally dominates the sector in Thailand.
The Honda CB650R with the Neo Cafe Racer looks and those 4 cylinders and exhaust pipe is in my opinion the one to buy believing you do not need to ever upgrade.
Thanks for your support. Completely echo your comments about Hondas, the service cost is also relatively cheaper than Euro bikes. Full testing videos are coming soon.
Great video. Always amazed with your mixing talent. Awesome and informative. Hope to see more from you.
Thank you!
Wow this video was very comprehensive, the quality is also great. Good job and thanks for the video :)
Thanks for the appreciation! More videos coming...
Honda 4 cyl 650 CB should have been considered. Also Yamaha MT 07 L model with lower CC and dont forget the unique Suzuki 750.
Yoo new subie here. This is the 2nd video I have watched from your channel. Very informative indeed! I think some parts in this video are a bit too fast I had to pause to take a closer look. I have been eyeing my first expressway-legal motorbike and this comparison helped a lot! Thanks, mate. 👌
Hey! Thanks, this was made when I was starting out and I watched it again and cringed in some places. My newer videos are better paced and easier to watch (or so I think lol). Thank you for your support, dropping one more soon.
I had it for 2 years now and it is the best bike I ever had
Awesome! Enjoy and be safe out there. Cheers!
Thank you for all the information you provided =)
My pleasure! Glad you found it useful.
Don't forget the retro-inspired naked bike from Yamaha with the same engine as MT-07, The XSR-700
Omg it’s been so long
Welcome back
Loved the intro already
Thanks! Will try and be more consistent now.
USA gets all the 2022 Honda's!
I would add the CF Moto CL-X 700 to this list now too. Forget the fact its a Chinese brand, It has a suped-up Kawasaki z650 engine and was designed by the same team as KTM. I've ridden all of these bikes and for me it's the best of the 4 in both looks and features. It has way more bells and whistles and way less plastic than the three here, all while managing to both cost and weigh about the same. It's also the only one with fully adjustable suspension and cruise control which are features normally reserved for high-end sports bikes.
I'm usually a hater of Chinese products, but I agree with CFMoto. They took the right path by working with KTM. I just hope that the new CFMoto twins don't have the notorious gasket leak that the 790/890 have.
Awesome video 👌
Thank you!
hugs from Brazil!
Thanks bud! likewise!
I had it for 2 years now
Great video and audio quality. I liked the format of your other video better (650cc comparisons) because this one with all the memes and funny clips seem to just mimic Yammi noob. Whereas your other video had both charisma and rapid fire facts and figures laid out nicely.
Why do you say the CB650R is not a beginner bike?
Thank you so much for this feedback! This is very helpful.
And about the cb650 not being a beginner bike, i’m more in favor of starting off on smaller bikes so the power, weight and acceleration are more manageable and the rider can spend more of their mental bandwidth on technique. Although, I understand that in western countries, especially in US, 650s are also looked at as smaller as they’re being compared with 1000cc or bigger bikes. Just my 2 cents. I’m keen to hear your perspective on that.
@@RiderXp totally agree. Got A bmwg310r and told myself once I’m comfortable and master this bike…then I’ll move up. On to the triumph trident 660😁
@@SteveSweetness34 Awesome! I almost bought the Trident had it not been for the supply chain issues the US (i think most of the world) is going through right now. Maybe it’s for the better. At this point, might just build one for myself 😀
@@RiderXp not many around ..but there are few for sale here in Southern California
Great 👍 all around content 🙏 thx for sharing
Thanks a bunch for the encouragement! Cheers!
So fully paked of information and comparison. I like that video. 👍🏼👍🏼
I’m glad you did. Thanks!
Awesome 🤩
Thanks!
I got a cb500f and I love it
Surely the CB650R should be in the same category as the mt07 not the CB500F ??
That’s true. Ideally, the cb650 in its own class because it’s the only mid segment naked with an inline 4 engine!
@@RiderXp cheers 😊
@@RiderXp And be in it's own class because of the price .
A ktm duke 690 is around £4500 in uk
I am undecided between z650, sv650 or MT-07. Which one??? I like all three.
MT is the most fun to ride, IMO
SV650 is great surprise!
The Suzuki 645cc V-Twin engine IMHO has the most 'character' (and best exhaust note) of the 3 and is about as bullet proof as you can get. This engine can do some SERIOUS kms with only basic maintenance. Either way you wouldn't go wrong with either the MT-07 or SV650. Both are great bikes.
Doesn't the Enfield Interceptor (made in India) count as a mid-sized, naked bike? They're very popular in the UK.
Yes it is. I ended up grouping it with mid segment retro bikes in another comparison video that felt more appropriate.
Missing seat Hight data
What would be a good beginner bike in this class or should I go smaller 400cc family? Out of this what is your top 3 for beginners?
I would recommend a Z400 if you were to goto the 300-400cc family. In the middleweight class, for a beginner, my top 3 would be CB500F, SV650 and the Trident 660 depending on interest and availability. you could also watch the lightweight naked bikes comparison video that i posted yesterday.
@@RiderXp thanks for the help. I am going to look at some today. What would make you choose the z400 over the ktm duke 390?
Reliability! The Duke 390 is fun to ride and has a lot of bells and whistles but I've had several Duke390 owners complain about heating and electronics issues on them. Kawasaki Z400 is a much less stressed engine and overall platform is more sturdy. Having owned a Kawasaki ZX6R for 3 yrs now, I can confirm that Kawi's are almost as reliable as most other Japanese bikes. Hope this helps.
the Suzuki 650 was the best comparison now they dont build it
I would imagine be as close one could get given currently sold models.
Top video mate exce8you were talking too fast .
I wish you slowed down a bit but otherwise it's a good video.
I’m glad you liked it. Thanks for the feedback about talking too fast, I’m working in it. Cheers!
@@RiderXp thanks mate.
I know you are trying to fit as much information as you can but a bit slower makes it easier to absorb all the valuable info.
Keep up the good work mate
Thank you for the support and encouragement. I appreciate it!
Just put the video on 0.75x speed
Big thanks for kilometer and kilograms tabel
You're welcome! :)
Wait.. shouldn’t the honda CB650R be more appropriately compared here?
It has been, in the second half of the video. I’ve also compared it in another video in much greater detail th-cam.com/video/pCkxYoJXXcc/w-d-xo.html
@@RiderXp awesome! I’ll check it out! Thanks for the reply
The world is so big but it is so wrong. Imperial won two woooorld waaaars!!!
My experience: when you get a Japanese bike, you're done!
Same! :)
How wonderful ❤❤!! #NAME? P R O M O S M!
Why 2 wheelers need a car engine or above 300cc spoiling Global environment
Well, in western countries the average driving speeds are a little higher for 300cc to keep up with regular traffic. A for global environment, eventually electric will take over everything and that would be one of the major solutions.
CFMOTO 650 NK missing, its really not a bad bike folks.
I rode the 650 adventura (MT) recently with that motor, i’m pretty sure the NK must be fun too. Will try and get a test ride soon.
@@RiderXp awesome! Keep up the good work!