Here’s Why the Spurs Traded Dejounte Murray
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Dejounte Murray was traded to the Hawks for the rights to 4 first round picks. Spurs fans were upset at giving up a 25 year old All-Star but this explains why San Antonio actually won the trade.
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We need a part 2 of this trade, the impact has been tremendous
Up-vote! 👍
I agree
There will be a part 2 when Spurs win another ring in the next 2 years
Anyone here after the Spurs got Wemby? Dayum, this trade turns out to be goated
This video has aged like a fine wine.
As a Spurs fan. This is the most accurate breakdown of the DeJounte trade. He ain’t that guy and it’s sad some of us Spurs fan really see him as a superstar. He’s a really good player though definitely an All-Star. Good luck Atlanta!
Not over Ingram though got robbed
Player will be a superstar or not is a very difficult thing. Some like magic, Jordan, bird and lebron turn into beasts in one season but it takes time for all people.
Yet every year he got better! Mentioning someone’s past doesn’t mean shyt! So not sure what that has to do with anything! Also him being picked close to last in the first doesn’t mean anything either! It’s players in the second round doing better than 1st round selections. Cough… “Jimmy Buttler.”
How many guards you run into that play D at a top teir! Along with dropping 21 a game and getting 8 boards and 9 assist! Not to mention 2 steals a game! Murray also improved his midrange and isn’t like he can’t shoot the 3! Marcus Smart is just now becoming a better 3pt shooter! Along with Lonzo! This was dumb bruh!
@@diegochavez6203 edwards as well
@@richierich8905 he was never gonna fit on the spurs timeline who are rebuliding and the dude is 25. He provides value for a contending team and the hawks getting him was a W move without giving up Collins or hunter for it but Gallanari ( who signed with celtics ) and some picks.
Great move by the spurs. Really hope they get wembayama next year. They seem like the perfect fit to build around a guy like that. Also when pop steps down eventually, having Tim Duncan as his coach would just make too much sense. Time for some lottery shenanigans Adam Silver
There is no way in hell Tim Duncan wants to coach. He only helped pop because he felt like he owed pop something but I would be down to let him coach as a spurs fan tho.
@@hrishirao4152 Ahh true. Thats too bad. Didnt realize he wasnt an assistant coach anymore. Regardless, perfect fit for Wembayama.
Quinn Snyder might be the next coach.
We'll see at the end of the season i dont think pop will tank this season he'll definitely be grinding on the young guns no matter what the record the'll get..
@@ethana635 might improve that 6 ppg
we need a part 2 of
this vlog.
I wouldn't doubt DJ coming back to the Spurs.... That would be double Fleeced
It’s May 26, 2023…….. and Spurs r***ed the hawks
God, this video age well, and age poorly! 💀 Atlanta sucks. Spurs got 1st pick! Let’s gooooo!!!
I’m a San Antonio native and a spurs fan lifer. It’s apart of our culture to be loyal to our players, ..when they traded off D.White, I knew more was to come, and I’m sure more after this will also follow..at first I was heated this trade went down, but I’m all for it now. GO SPURS GO !
Any of those future picks could turn into the next star.
i feel the same way
I am glad they traded Murray. I never liked him. He is stuck on “potential.” Any team who has Murray as their main man, are in trouble. He is not someone who will lead a team to a championship. He is not even a number two man. At best he is the third man, third option. Good riddance. Go Spurs.
Derek White sucked and I couldn’t even believe they gave him an extension to begin with.
What happened to the spurs...non factor now days who cares
It has also been reported that Murray TOLD Spurs that he WAS NOT going to sign any extension which would be only a set % raise from current contract. So he was openly going to wait for Free Agency to demand a Max Contract. So it was the right move for a team that could not afford to pay him that much, with a roster that is low playoff team AT BEST in 2 years with him.
Sounds like Dejounte precipitated the trade then.
Where did u read or hear that?
I haven't heard this rumor yet, but thought of it. Spurs preempt from drama of resigning him and traded him. Especially now knowing his agent is rich Paul, it's highly possible.
source
All lies !!!
Great video! Aged perfectly lol
As a spurs fan, im sad
Feel better bud. The Spurs are getting victor wenbenyama
@@alimizi7108 no, best case scenario, they have a 14% of getting him. Draft lottery is exactly that, a lottery.
You'll be fine. Spurs set back is will be worth it. Their culture is different.
Yeah man I hate how it’s all about money now
@@alimizi7108 aged like fine wine
This is the best video I have seen explaining this trade and why it makes since for the Spurs.
Your videos are always amazing! I think dejounte and Trae will work really well together! 🔥❤️🔥
Props to you for mentioning Chip Engelland. He is super underrated. He was almost got sniped by the Lakers btw.
As a Pacers fan, another small market team, I respect how the Spurs run their organization. Pacers should follow their lead on tanking for a high draft pick. They already traded Brogdon. They still need to move Hield and Turner. Pacers have 12 players under 25. Go full youth movement. They have 3 picks next year and cap space.
Fucking cockroaches tanking for lottery picks.
Thank you for clarifying this bro.. nobody else did.. love your channel 👍🏻
Slightly off the topic, but the league should really revisit the supermax. It should be performance based, from regular max to a bonus oriented supermax. Stars can already ask for a trade anyways. So making it a "reward" for performance may force both the stars and the team to have a better performance and entertainment value. And not counting the "super" part of the max contract towards the cap enables team to create a more competitive team.
totally agree. supermax is supposed to help small market teams. it's actually having an opposite effect.
i mean these owners making billions of off those players talent …media wants us to hate the money the players make
The problem is the percentage of the supermax is too much. 25% a quarter of a team's cap space is given to a single player. I have no problem giving that to the likes of Giannis, Embiid, Curry and Jokic, but to give that amount of money to a fringe all-star to a second tier star is just putting your team in purgatory. They should put tiers on these max contracts
I believe the supermax is performance based in that it requires all-star selections and/or All NBA selections. The supermax does then function as bonus oriented version of the max deal.
I'm not an expert on the CBA though and do agree that the league should revisit the idea.
@@beankobe8205 Ben Simmons situation is going to be interesting in that cba owners meetings
I wouldn't say he's never developed as a shooter. He's not as good as we wanted him to be shooting-wise but he's still improved over the years.
Full trade now is galo all those hawks picks and wembanyama
Ngl I think this trade kinda works. I mean Trae Young would finally have help in offense and Murray is the perfect 2 guard for him. The entire offense is not only gonna run through him atleast unlike the last season where we know it ended up badly. Since the Play-in up until to the playoffs against the Heat he has the most possession and shots which resulted to the Heat heavily lock him up. But now paired with an also Point Guard who's good in scoring inside the field and reliable on offense Trae would finally had help in him and lessen the burdens on his shoulder carrying Atlanta on offense. Additionally they really need an athletic guard that is good at defending and someone that's gonna run through the basket and score, the opposite of Trae Young's playstyle since Trae is not that athletic and bad on defense and since Dejounte is not that good at shooting Trae is gonna fill up that void. Trae scoring outside hitting threes meanwhile Dejounte is gonna score inside the paint is like marriage it's finest. This creates a fine dynamic between the two kinda like Dame and McCollum. It's a really big plus for Trae and the Hawks since their Forwards are Lazy af especially John Collins, Not defending and closing up properly and relying heavily on Trae to run their team and just watch him run the offense frozen to their place, Murray I think would fill that void that their forwards are lacking. Imagine Murray at 2 and Trae running the offense would be lit af and I think they're gonna get along well. Really excited to see what will happened to them next season and how well or bad they play hopefully it goes just the way I imagined them to be
Not reading that Declaration of Independence sorry
@@itzhassanplayz909 Only took 30 seconds to read lazy
@@itzhassanplayz909 why bother reply lol
Short window of opportunity and big gamble of future assets. It is Dejounte Murray. Lets keep it real. He is not even a top 20 to 25 player, and you sold your future for him. And his contract will be coming up and he will be demanding a big bag of cash. What then?
@@itzhassanplayz909 Probably didn't study how to read. Maybe go back to 1st grade
Thank you for this great content.
Your always on point . On dang near everything
I think they're just trying to build up picks. Gotta start the rebuild somehow and now that Dejounte Murray has made a name for himself it's smart to trade him for picks to help with that process while his value is high.
The Hawks got swindled by the Spurs que feo
Great video sir 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
3:40 Oh yes. James Haren. What a player that Haren is.
Probably bec he has no D
Cause he plays no D. Get it? Haha. Get it?
Hilarious how this worked out for the Spurs in retrospect
Who is here after spurs got the number one pick
Me #GoSpursGo
I really enjoyed this video!
Great analysis.
Welp... we got Wemby!!!!
you were spot on my man!
Thank you for somebody that knows what they’re talkin bout🤙🏽🤙🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Excellent video
Quick fact, since the new lottery odds in 2018 no team with the worst record has gotten the 1st overall pick. If your a Spurs fan you better hope that trend doesn’t continue.
He's making a huge gamble sound like a sure thing lol. Atlanta had to completely fall on their face repeatedly for this to maybe work out in the Spurs favor
It worked out in 2023 they got wemby
As a lifelong Atlanta Hawks fan I'm glad that we have him now, so let's appreciate him while we have him. Hopefully the team can make a decent run next year if not all the way. I really don't believe that they will make an effort to keep him, no matter how outstanding his season may be. Smiling as we cry.
Yea, this is a win now gamble for the Hawks, and they sold future assets for this. Not so sure I would risk so much on Dejounte Murray. Good luck.
@@JohnnytNatural “if not”
Wouldn't make sense to not sign him to a long term deal after trading away those picks
Chip Engelland was one of my favorite players when he played for the Philippines and NCC.
Great breakdown right here. Much of the rest of the internet is still guessing.
The *ONLY* reason imo they traded him is because they feel he’s not the player they’ll build the franchise around.
They’re searching for THAT guy. Ala Tim Duncan.
Once they find him, they’ll be fine but in order to have a chance at drafting “him”, they have to tank.
The problem with DM (on that team) is he’s good enough to make you a 50/50 win team (and won’t tank) so with him, they’d be stuck in purgatory. 🤷♂️
the Spurs wouldnt want to tank until this offseason thats why they are still competitive to make the Playoffs that roster is not enough to make the Playoffs in the West even with Play-In i guess Pop decided that its time to tank for a Top 3 pick in the next years Draft
thoughtful and educational video. Man you did your research
San Antonio isn’t exactly small market. San Antonio is the 9th most populated city in the US & Austin which is right next door, is the 10th most populated city in the US. Combined population is similar to Boston. Spurs have a big market really.
Population of a city does not equal Market size. It also includes the Metropolitan area. That's why Boston is a relatively small City that just over 600,000 people. But within 10 mile radius of Boston there are millions of people.
@@andrewbigman2374 not more than San Antonio/Austin metropolitan area. Austin alone is considered a future NBA City. Spurs fanbase boasts at 7 million which ranks 10th in the NBA. If you add Austin to San Antonio it pushes them up in market size significantly.
@@andrewbigman2374 also it’s projection is higher than most because Austin is top 3 US city in growth.
You also have to look at other metrics beyond population size when considering pro sports market significance. Corporate presence and overall wealth of the populous. San Antonio has neither in abundance.
@@roncarter5128 then why is Austin considered a future NBA destination candidate? The money is there more than most, in fact Austin is the 8th richest metro in the US. Austin is in the San Antonio market when it comes to the NBA. Again, you have to add the surrounding areas of the metropolitan. Without Austin this doesn’t work. NFL NHL & MLB have all put this area in the top 5-10 for expansion.
7:38 He said Knicks got rid of their entire team for Jalen Brunson? huh? they picked more future draft picks in the draft from OKC and traded away Noel (who barely played) and Burks their defacto PG last season while keeping all their young pieces.
Yeah. That was a head scratcher for me. The Knicks got rid of players they needed to get rid of including Kemba and Nerlens. The team is pretty intact. I’ll miss Burks but his position is more than covered with young players with huge upsides.
@@bitistrauchn7561 i didnt even mention Kemba because KNicks realized he wasnt effectful at all maybe thats who this guy was talkin about. Yeah I like Burks. He was good but shouldnt be our lead PG lol.
Yeah, I really didn’t understand how he could say we got rid of the whole team for Jalen, when we so effectively moved contracts and got picks while keeping our team pretty much intact..
I was disappointed when he said that dude has no idea what he’s talking about there. Just goes to show power of the media narrative.
This video is hilarious in retrospect. Spurs did actually get Wemby, Hawks actually kept Dejounte for a very reasonable contract, and the Knicks were actually good because they picked up Brunson lol
Chip England turned a lanky defender into a mid range threat in DJ …show some damn respect lol FR tho
After almost a year I can say that they were right
Thanks, this made me slightly more excited about what my team did. As long as Pop and RC Buford are there, top picks will turn into gold
RC Buford is no longer the GM, so he's not working in tandem with Popovich on player personnel decision. It's a young cat named Brian Wright. But they still have Chip England and the Spurs Way is still somewhat intact. We'll see...
@@wonDER1973 Chip is not there anymore.
I AM VERY HAPPY AS A ATLANTA FAN i dont rlly care we lost a lot of picks they have 50/50 chances to be bad and or good and we def rlly needed backcourt defense
I don't know why so much emphasis is but on unproven draft picks either especially when they're not 1thru 4, the NBA is full of players who never get their potential tap if they end up in the wrong place, Hawks win because the got their man NOW its as simple as that...Go Hawks.
@@edwardcopeland5069 ngl i aint a hawks fan im a trae young fan i just rlly want him to get a good team mate like dejounte murray idk how to spell his name XD
I'm a Spurs fan through and through, since 1993. I also was raised in Atlanta, so I pull for the Hawks too. This is a perfect trade for BOTH teams imho. Dejounte wasn't going to lead the Spurs anywhere worthwhile for their standards, so for them to get all those future assets and cap relief is a brilliant, forward-thinking move for San Antonio. No, Murray was never worth a supermax deal and apparently, according to reports about him and his deplorable agent Rich Paul's thinking, didn't want to re-sign in SA anyhow. As for the Hawks side of things, pairing Young with Murray and their young core (now sans Huerter) is a smooth short-term move to push for a Ch'ip ASAP.
Tanking? The Spurs better be careful going down THAT road. Right now they are still fresh from leaving a dynasty of championships. Yes, it's been over 8 years since their last chip but keep in mind, they have been perceived league wide as still having a "winning mentality" or as the fan base call it the "Spurs way". It is NOT EASY to create that culture.
This move from the Spurs will create YEARS of perennial losing which WILL affect the fan base, free agents and the players. You'll become NBA purgatory. Any "winning" culture will become history. Unless, you're a big market (New York, Chicago), you can withstand it but small market? Be careful.
Spurs got Duncan when they tank and west is gonna be stacked next season and I doubt there making the playoffs, only solution is the spurs rebuliding or tanking. many of their core guys left the team possibly Pop retiring. Can`t live off the past.
And now we have gone full circle and DJ is back on the Spurs radar.
Video aged pretty well. Until the Deandre talk lol
You NAILED this video! The Spurs are an organization that had one (rising) star surrounded by a lot of young diamonds in the rough. It would make no sense for them to pay him a max contract, let alone a super max. For the Hawks, this is about as good of an acquisition as they were going to get this year. Murray helps make up for Trae's GLARING defensive weakness and is a play maker. They are locked into Trae until 2027 and if this experiment shows potential this year, they can lock in their backcourt for a while. Potentially paying Murray later makes more sense than getting locked in to paying Gobert (who is as much of an offensive liability as Trae is a defensive one) now.
Love the Chip Engelland and foreign player Spurs references. 💯🎯
I think its time for a Spurs off-season video Casey👀
keep up the content
I'm more confident that the Spurs will hit on these few picks than OKC might with their significantly larger plethora of picks.
Iono famnall of okcs picks have been pretty fire so far
what picks do the spurs have
What does…… I mean why the heck bring up OKC at all. Does it make you feel better or some sh!t. you gonna sleep better tonight sheesh, it’s all a a gamble at the end of the day. It’s seems to me that most of the lower picks usually pay off more.
You mentioned Victor Wembanyama but also Scoot Henderson will be a part of the upcoming draft class. If Spurs can land either one of them it the absurd cap space they will have, Spurs will be contenders sooner than people think.
Scoot is great no doubt, but imagine Victor taught by Tim & Dave...
Next year has some good ones coming
It's starting to look like the Spurs started to see some issue with DJM that they didn't like. I think DJM thought he was the face of the franchise. His response to drafting Primo was the start. They traded him before there was any public situation like what's going on with DJM now. In my opinion, you only have to be bitten by a snake once to go in the opposite direction when you come across another.
i am watching this after the spurs won the lottery. these all made sense
I think the Atlanta Hawks will be a force sooner than later. Dejounte will help, they already have good players, and I'm sensing AJ & Tyrese will be a part of something special in Atlanta. One's got character, pedigree & self-styled offense that works and the other has serious shutdown capabilities. Are these 2 as good a pair of draft picks as Ivey & Duren for the Pistons? We'll find out. But I wouldn't be too surprised if they hoist the Larry O'Brien before Detroit does.
Im not mad about the trade happening as much as im mad about what we traded him for. Picks are a wild swing and they don't have an impact on the team for years,we should have asked for a young guy with similar value like Maxey or Simmons (from the Blazers not the guy that sits out games). Or at least Hunter from the hawks
I dunno. This vid is compelling. 3 1sts, maybe a 4th, plus you save tons of cash? The savings alone could be used on a Free Agent at the appointed time (years down the line). As for the Hawks, they must think they're trending upward from an already .500+ team
Imagine if the Spurs re-sign Murray after this year too
Murray signed a 4 year deal with the Hawks.
rumors have started
Dejoute going to Atlanta might have been the reason wemby got drafted to the spurs
WHATTTTT THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED?!!? Atlanta to ECF now:
DJ’s gna be breaking Trae Youngs ankles in practice like he did at 2:40 🤣
💯💯💯 all u said
Trae Young + Dejounte Murray is gonna be awesome to watch
I think they traded him for taking next year and the picks they want.
and if nothin else maybe use thoose extra picks to force themself to the nr1 spot if they get unlucky and want that dude so badly but idk either way allot stuff can happen over the next year to be clear on the draft so early on
Will there be a vid about the KD trade request?
One correction about what the host said, the trade was for 3 number one picks, not 4 number one picks. One is a pickswap, but that is 100% pointless because never in the next few years will Atlanta have a worse record than the Spurs.
thank u man im crying before u said all this
Don't be sad dude. Any one of those picks could turn into a Giannis type talent.
I was immediately pissed off when I heard we traded dejounte coming from a spurs fan. But when you really look at the details you're right that it was the right move, but at the same time even if they tank there's no guarantee we get the French kid
Sometimes you gotta roll the dice. There's no other way.
Just saw him playing top golf tonight in San Antonio
The last time the Spurs go in a rebuilding mode, they got Tim Duncan and the rest is history
Maybe history repeats itself
That’s why i saw pop and victor’s agent in Belgrado for the final 4 last may
Casey! not that you need it, but 184K subs + 1
Coach Pop saw his attitude and humility before everyone saw what he did to Banchero. Talent wise he has that, but Spurs thinking long term rather than deal with future headaches.
Spurs is a smart organization. They’ll rebuild and start contending soon.
@ 3:40 when you listed all the super max players you left the D out of James Harden’s name, and I’m convinced this wasn’t an accident 😂
Murray was a Star but not a Super Star. Spurs will carry on Surprising us til they get together a group of youngsters who are at a similar age and develop together into a great bunch. They still need an Elite level player or two. Elite coach sometimes isn't enough. Murray was not worth the Top level contract.Future is Bright Future is Spurs.
This Vid Has Aged Line a Fine Wine....:)
It feels like the Spurs are going full rebuild , and yeah while it will hurt them with their record , I think it works out for them because of the picks , cause it makes sense for them , they wanna go young and for sure the Spurs won the trade
They needed a rebuild a long time ago
@@iliketurtles7782 They were waiting for the unicorn. And this one ticks all the boxes.
Havent listened to a single word of this video and have an answer for you. Wembanyama
He literally predicts spurs getting him lol
Fantastic trade 🤘 love my spurs
Honestly the Suns couldve got him
Thet couldve traded Chris Paul to SA for Dejounte Murray
Murray wouldve been perfect next to Booker he's avarging triple double almost and plays good defence
Chris Pauls making $30 million they wanted draft capital which phoenix doesn’t have much of
Why would the spurs take Chris Paul ?
We have a backcourt lets go forward and be GREAT. Go Hawks
3:30 lol at James Haren
Next CBA gonna be tough for the players, with all things happened. Just like this one where players can demand a contract not worthy of their actual value. Also with all the trade requests going on after having signed multiple year max contracts. They might get paycuts if they try to get traded out of their own volition
Really surprised by this take - have you changed your mind about the draft? You used to say that "9/10 times the team that gets the all star wins the trade" and "draft is heavily luck based". Spurs haven't changed their odds for that 2023 1st pick, besides them being able to tank better. I think they were able to sell as high as possible, which is great for them, but I was expecting the take that the Hawks will be amazing, these picks will mean nothing and the spurs just lost their all star young pg best contract in the league for 2 more years for picks in the 20s, and pick swap that will not matter.
Dejounte moves the needle for ATL definitely but at best I see them being 4th or 5th seed in the east. I dont see them beating Miami, Bucks, Sixers, and maybe even the Bulls. The verdict has yet to be decided on the Hawks being "amazing"
@@EA97_ i agree, but I think kc's past doesn't. kc has made a lot of videos about how these type of trades are benfeitial to the team getting the all star, and almost never benfitial to the team trading him
Mate you should know by know that he obviously doesn‘t like the hawks
@@alessandro4357 lol yea - it felt a bit biased - he thinks the spurs wouldnt make bad moves and really hated the hawks for no reason last year. Even though his takes are inconsistent and biased he is entertaining and does some research before his videos
Dejounte and his agent said they wouldn't sign an extension and he is not worth a supermax either. The 3 FRPs can be used to trade for other players not necessarily be used to draft..
I never knew Tosh.0 had a basketball channel
I see a lot of length on okcs roster. If this works out it's gonna be a problem especially on offense
Yo when is the warriors off seasin guide?
Nice video ....but primo is the answer johnson plus vassell...dejountay more of a gaurd vs pg.......so made sense to move
Tim duncan spin move was poetry
Good trade by both teams but the Hawks taking a risk for the future because if they don't make the playoffs the picks goes to the Spurs in a tough eastern conference
The Hawks will make the playoffs blindfolded. The Hawks are gonna be very good for a very long time. Those picks are going to be trash.
@@kaii231 u sure about that because I got a bunch of teams ahead of them
Celtics, Heat, 76ers, Bucks, Bulls, Cavs, Raptors and the Nets if KD and Kyrie on the team
This actually worked.
So how about John Collins? Do you have a landing spot for him?
Spurs are t just good with draft picks but are also good at developing players