I really want this to start a trend of using 2x120mm coolers on GPUs. It doesn't have to be for an expensive noctua collaboration. It sounds like even average-quality 120mm fans would offer a large improvement over the current GPU cooler situation. Enthusiasts have been modding their cards to do this same thing for years now, it's time for graphics card manufacturers to get the hint and start offering this out of the box.
Would love that too, but i think mainly the issue would be ask and demand. Or the practicality of it. As DerBauwer mentioned in his last video, its a quad slot GPU so you wouldnt be able to use a e.g. wifi card/bluetooth, or USB card etc in your PCIE slots. To make it a marketable item i suppose they should reasearch a actuall % of people that actually use PCIE accesories and look if its worth the effort. But then again... possibly a PCIE riser and vertical mount in a wide case might just do the job too.
Totally although I would want horizontal fins rather than vertical so the hot air is pushed out the case rather than into the motherboard and side panel. Vertical fins may be better for the GPU itself but it's just straight up selfish to dump it's heat into the case like that.
@@FutaNoKami Graphics card companies already offer a wide range of cooler configurations, some of which are even more niche, like AIO liquid cooled cards and hybrid coolers. There's no reason 120x25mm fans couldn't be a standard option as well. They'll still sell thinner cards for SFF and expansion card compatibility too.
You know, this should be the standard for most cards these days. I know they will have the crazy looking cards with RGB. The fact that you can swap the fans out is serviceability in the future. WTG Noctua and ASUS.
Yeah, the days where people are trying to cram 2 graphics cards in their case are long gone. There's just not much reason to keep using the skinny heatsinks and small screamer fans. (other than cost savings to the manufacturer) Especially with the ridiculous heat load of modern graphics cards.
@@BriBCG eh, that kinda just rules out mATX builds. With a 3 slot card you still get 1 extra slot at least. However, they could just use half height fans for lower heat cards.
@@startedtech Also completely rules out even a single GPU in ITX builds. My current case can sorta fit a triple but not most of the 3000 line, quad? Forget about it.
Maybe this is the future of GPUs , swapable 120mm fans , easy cleaning, maximum customized, mix and match. The possibilities are endless. Edit: Completely forgot about the GPU lifespan increase.
nah, it increases a lifespan of a GPU so it won't die in 3-5 years and customer won't be really forced to buy a new one (apart from new games demanding a better hardware). so won't happen. but you always can tie any fan to any gpu cooler with zip-ties, the only downside - warranty obligations could be ignored by manufacturer in that case.
From a right-to-repair standpoint this is great, as well as allow for user customization without major modification. Because the OEM fans, being only produced for OEM, are really difficult to source when they break, and usually means you have to ship it back for factory warranty. If that has ran out, you're shit out of luck.
i wish this became a standard for the future, i wouldnt mind extra chonk on cards if it meant that individual fans could be user-replaceable aswell as really modular/customizeable
@@MrPruske I was thinking about not deshrouding it. I'm not really comfortable with opening up my GPU. Would that create turbulent? I am fine with my PC looking a little bit "cursed" as long as the temps kept low and the GPU fans work less.
@@ThunderingRoar Just price it the same as GPU Water Block and it will probably find customers who really want quieter, but don't want to go full watercooling. We really just need the heatsink to be easier to disassemble and we are halfway there already.
It took Noctua 20 something years to design a 200mm fan that lived upto their standards for material composition, flex, sound etc. Consider this pairing with a 3070 as a rush job with that redesigned heatsink. If they'd have had 4-5 years to come up with the perfect heatsink to match the A12x25 fans, I'd expect it'd do somewhat better than it already does. Just throwing 120mm fans on a heatsink doesn't necessarily mean it'll actually perform better than what's already there if the heatsink isn't optimized for the differences between the fans capabilities.
Money, board partner lose money if they allow their gpu to be able to use standard size fans, why do you think they sell basically the same chip but with different price? It's because of the fan and sometimes heatsink they use,
also it increases a lifespan of a GPU so it won't die in 3-5 years and customer won't be really forced to buy a new one (apart from new games demanding a better hardware). so won't happen.
There is a ton of things to PCs that I really don't understand. For this issue, it has a lot of things going against it. The slot used for the GPU is typically the first one, and going with a cooler that need 6 slot width to function, like this Asus-Noctua thing, the rest of the slots become unusable. There is no tradition in the industry to shake things up, to keep flexibility while supporting new hardware. Also, using these fans, there is a height limitation in a lot of cases, that prevent this design from being usable. It sort of reminds me about the turtle speed adoption of the dropping of the 5.25" bays.
because there is no real gain in cooling performance whats so ever. you are better off with tripple fan cards. i ghetto modded my 2080ti and even used 140mm noctua industrials with full 3000rpm on it. Its the same temperature as stock if not a little worse.
Just offering a simple plastic fan shroud for 120mm fans that can be purchased as separate product for 5-10$ would be enough... It looks better than using zip-ties and not everyone wants to 3d print it by themselves...
@@veduci22Realistically a shroud + heatsink would be 40 to 80 bucks (this isn't 3D printing quality were talking about lol) or maybe a bit more and prooooooobably won't be covered under warranty. Economies of scale would be needed to drop price which is a problem cause there's so many GPU variations and the heatsinks would have to change per type of card and version.
Probs diminished returns, ive never seen much improvment, be it on heatsinks or rads, going past a certain point. I run 9 3000rpm noctua industrals in my current main rig and the temps (be it coolant temps or temps on motherboard from stuff like vrm's, ssd etc that have heasinks) do stuff all above about 1500-2000rpm despite the massive increase in air (and db) movement. Ive played with deltas in the past but they were just crazy loud.
@@dunxy When you have chance to assemble / play with servers, believe me those Delta fans noise level means nothing. My suggestion is just for fun and for "tweaking" purpose, not for long term use. Any one who dealt with those kind of fans will know what I mean. No one wants hear loss problem because of those fans. Not no mention the need of a fan grill in front on the blades.
I'm surprised no other company have been doing this, finally you can replace fans when they get noisy or break down without replacing the whole cooler/card.
3:41 actually, there IS one difference in comparison with retail fans. These have custom length 4-pin cable, as stock retail fans would have either too short cable (the 2nd fan farther from hub) or too long cable (1st fan, which sits at the hub). You can also notice fan cables being black instead of typical PWM color scheme.
pretty much every fan out there just has a black sleeve on theiur fans cables nowadays, atleast noctua. I run 22 noctuas in my 1000D and they all have a sleeve made out of rubber, and thats how they came like in the boxes.
I imagine Noctua's industrial IPPC fans would keep the card even cooler at full bore because of their higher max RPM, while still being just as quiet under normal use.
Side note: Haven’t seen one of your videos for a little while now, and I wanted to say you’re looking good man. Cheers to more gains for the both of us 💪🏼
Why dont you also try pushing a slight OC, and see how loud it would get when you push the fans up to 1400-1500rpm and if it still manages to be quieter AND cooler than stock cooler?
Very similar heatsink size to the Raijintek Morpheus after-market VGA cooler (which I'm buying tomorrow when latest pay-check clears). I'd really love it if VGA card manufacturers would release cooler-less cards so we could fit our own coolers without the e-waste, preferably with standard core/mem locations. E2A: The reason I'd put RGB fans on would be to have temperature controlled colouring (which is something I'd like to do, if I had had money to burn to do entire system)
Most likely not, while the fan shroud between a standard 3070 tuf and 3080 tuf is the same the cooler and board layout are different. So this Noctua cooler wont fit on a 3080 tuf sadly.
Sure he could. He would only need to measure the heatsink, take an image of it, and I will design one for him. If he has access to a Prusa MK3 printer, we can get this going in a few days. Oh, my designs look awesome with RGB, so maybe he shouldn't ...
Noctua is one of the good guys. I am seriously thinking about heavily using their products in my next build upgrade. Can't wait for the rest of their releases this year.
this gpu is gunna sell like hot cakes that are fresh baked simply because the fans can be swapped out with whatever the hell you want, wish this could be done with more cards.
If an AIB partner were to offer a model with standard 2x 120mm x25mm fan mountings, it would be disruptive. The biggest differentiators between AIBs (that allow them to upcharge massively between SKUs) are the cooler, power delivery, and BIOS. Standardizing the cooler would commoditize that biggest differentiator, potentially hurting profits. All the AIBs are completely selling through their stock, and they have a supply bottleneck with NVIDIA, so I don’t see much of an economic motivation for incumbents to disrupt here. Good for ASUS for doing this! A BYO fan line would be pro-consumer.
I started to watch the German version of this video and realised that my poor year 12 German was no match for your commentary. Good to be here with the English version 👌
I kinda do this to all my GPU's remove the shroud and fans leaving the heatsink in place then mount 2 120mm fans on a PCI bracket in the slot under the card = superior cooling performance
Thank you for doing the fan swap.. I suggested this right off the bat.. including to ASUS directly.. and their response was "the chromax fans are different and that Noctua does not of the NF fans in any different colors" I think the black gray aesthetic looks so much better then the "Noctua brown"
This is good way to approach the "right to repair" too. Standardized ware parts that can be sourced as you please means ASUS doesn't have to do you anything special :)
right to repair means that if a part is broken or something is damaged in a product you bought, you can take the product to any repair shop to be repaired or if you want to do it by yourself without being forced to do it the manufacturer way the old fans are on sale on internet, you can replace them by unplugging or unscrewing the old unit and installing the new one itx cases will not be able to fit this solution, the gpu is 4 slots, at best, a itx will fit 3 slots gpus if you are lucky so this will work for atx users only, external gpu cases might or might not fir one the fans on any gpu can be removed and replaced with this type of fan, you can even use zipties to put a traditional fan if you have the space, the plastic part can be unscrewed on many gpu models if not all, i even did it on a gt 1030! where your right to repair is being destroyed is on iphones, latest model will not allow you to change a single part, all has to be done by apple directly
Another review of the Asus Noctua 3070 mentioned that the temps all over the card were excellent. Like the backplate was just above room temp. (I think it was Jayz2Cents.) ... When compared to the temps of the back of some cards which you can barely touch because they get hot. Outstanding cooling.
My first thought when you said "retail fans" with an adapter was "Hey that sounds like the best way to change fans of a GPU" and basically whenever someone talks about his old GPu he will mention degration of the fans. happaned to me as well. so just this shroud is probably worth it for every single somewhat enthusiast, just because this card will be running for 10 years without a problem by simply upgrading the fans halfway through the lifespan.
@@jeremytine the thickness means there can be limits in which systems you can install them, but overall if it produces better thermals and acoustics plus if you don't need the other expansion slots occupied I think it's worth it imho
@@elishapiccio2648 worth it to a very niche few maybe, but it is too restrictive to sell well and will fail commercially. An AIO design will offer as good or better cooling and much better case compatibility. 5 pci slots is just too much.
Just wait till Major Hardware finally makes a series on different GPU fan designs by fans (Fan Showdown)! It's gonna be wild! I also agree with the majority of comments that this kind of design should become the norm, since fans are one of the first thing to fail and having easy access to a replacement instead of having to hunt for an exact match (if at all possible to replace) would be amazing. Not to mention being able to pick and choose whether you want to go performance, or silence or RGB or any mix of the above.
Hypno-owl has mesmerized me. 😵💫 It's silly, but I really hope that this Noctua card idea to use regular PC fans on an extra-large heatsink catches on for aftermarket coolers. Not every PC enthusiast wants a water block or a LN2 pot.
Honestly, if the shroud was designed around low profile 120s, and a slightly smaller cooler, my *guess* is you could achieve a more "normal" form factor that's still quiet and cool
I can really see some manufacturers, or at least ASUS continue this trend since the reduced noise levels is pretty good along with thermals too. Even if you price the "Air-Block", as similar to waterblock, the advantages of reduced noise levels without going full water-cooling, will probably draw some enthusiast in, especially in SFF space where any reduction in DBA will be helpful. Also, with GPU consuming more and more power, this solution will probably be needed to keep bulk down, before thickening or lengthening the heatsink.
this kind of design also reduces e-waste by making it easier to swap fans if one happens to break. Of course replacing a fan on a gpu is possible for any model but the barrier to entry is important, and it's also a lot easier to buy a normal 120mm fan than an oem gpu fan that isn't generally sold to the public
The Noctua fans I have used as case exhaust and PSU cooling, transduce no additional sound/noise that I can detect, when those isolators are not installed.
i would gladly buy one of these if/when i could just go to newegg or microcenter and buy this for whichever model i wanted. like if this was a 3080 Ti, i think it would be a great choice. Glad Asus is working with Noctua and EK to make new product offerings.
Sooner or later, there should be a standard for all GPU so we can use 3rd party mounting and fans which is way more superior than the stock fan and heat sink of the GPU.
nah, it increases a lifespan of a GPU so it won't die in 3-5 years and customer won't be really forced to buy a new one (apart from new games demanding a better hardware). so won't happen.
@@rawdez_ if you are happy with a Dodgy Backyard Mechanic Style Cooler they yeah, but not everyone is happy with that & like me prefer having A PC with a Quality Build Look
Just go water and be done with it. if you hold onto hardware long it will always last, if you upgrade every gen your previous gen card with coverall will still sell for a good price, premium over anything with air cooler because smart buyer will know card has had much easier time thermally. Rads,plumbing and pump/s last ages. Ive found fan lifespan longer on rads as well, i always run them pull so rad acts like a good filter. Im slack and pullfdown for flush and remove fans clean etc every 2-4 years and ive still got fans that run perfect after 7+ years. Dont think ive ever had a case/heatsink fan survive that long, ever! Even on cases with good intake filters that i used to clean regularly, always bought high end fans.
That bracket that fit standard 120mm fans is cool. If use Arctic P12 fans because it's barely as good as the Noctua's but for a lot less money and I can buy more of them. They have a D-RGB version of the P12 now, though it's hard find in stock at the moment.
For those whom don't have room for such a high slot card, it wouldn't be that hard to use a shroud designed for use with 15mm fans like the A12x15 instead of the A12x25, especially on mid-range cards like the 5700xt or 3060. Just being able to easily replace/swap gpu fans is awesome, should have been done years ago.
I personally do not like the styling of that card (I do like the brown) but I love the standard fans and fan headers. This would be a nice to have on any cooler. Even using 90mm to get triple fans on a card, It would be nice to plug and play with any 90mm fan.
I like the way that it's more modular; so if a fan fails it's easy to replace, or if the GPU dies or becomes obsolete I'd still be able to easily repurpose the fans. I do think they could probably shave some extra width off the card if they changed the way the fans are mounted. If the fan shroud over the top was omitted and instead the fans were held on by being either mounted to a simple metal plate between the fans and cooler, or a set of bent wire spring clips as many CPU coolers use to mount their fans.
You should do an all Noctua theme build with the Noctua 3070, a D-15, and only beige and brown case fans. I think it would look really cool and be very quiet.
I have an HP NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 card, I was told it was a reference card with a different fan shroud (has the 12 pin connector on top). This would be a great mod to do to it. I only wish I had a 3D printer. I would be making my own shroud and doing something similar to this design.
With my previous asus 1070 card, all fans died. They died so fast I did not trust them anymore so I just zip-tied some 12cm fans to it. Performance, cooling and noise levels improved by a LOT. Never understood why they didn't come with bigger fans.
More cards should be built with off the shelf 80mm, 92mm or 120mm fans. I would like to see a noctua ITX 3060/3060 ti model with a 92mm fan. Like an MSI Aero ITX, but with a noctua fan.
a guy/channel named Major Hardware 3d printed a cooler for a 3060 and it looked identical to the noctua one you could make this cooler for any card very easily
If I didn't already have a 3060TI I'd probably be looking for this babbu. One can hope that ASUS keeps this partnership up and releases at least one Noctua model for their mid-range cards, or just starts using these kinds of fan shrouds in conjunction with the NF-A12x15 low profile fans. Also of note, Noctua did announce a Chromax Black version of the A12x25 a couple weeks ago. So that'll be an option in the future, literally same exact fan design, just in black.
A better cooler which runs silent at normal spec, will also allow for better performance range when OCd. so apart from comparing noise level, gaming performance can also be compared with normal cards
While I primarily use custom loops in my builds, having swappable fans on the GPU fan shrouds would be outstanding!! This needs to be something that catches on and start happening asap!! Probably wishful thinking, but.. yeah!
This is a great card with fantastic cooling performance and servicibility too. If I ever get this card (or something like it) I would definitely want to try using the Phanteks T30-120 fans or the Arctic BioniX P12 fans on this card. I hope to get either one of these for my graphics card at home and see how I can improve my temperatures on the current graphics card before moving onto something similar.
i wish noctua release GPU fan shroud/Heatsink for different GPU makers that will plug and play, that will be great for noctua and specially for older/newer gpu that wants silent or more efficient cooler and makes more performance.
I have made an RTX 3070 Noctua Edition (but very hacky) with a 3070 Dual by deshroudding it. It was just before the launch of this card and I cannot believe how much cooler and quieter my card became, even if the heatsink isn't as good as this one. The real thing is likely even better. I'd have bought it if it was available back then.
Looks like a win for consumers and right to repair.... Lets just see which GPU card manufacturers are on the side of light and those that are with the dark side eh?. 😉
right to repair? the companies sell the fans that you can replace, no one stops you to replace the fans for 120mm normal fans and plug them to a fan header right to repair means that you can repair things, you can do whatever you want with your gpu, is not like a iphone without spare parts and a firmware that does not allow replacement parts or will disable features
I really want this to start a trend of using 2x120mm coolers on GPUs. It doesn't have to be for an expensive noctua collaboration. It sounds like even average-quality 120mm fans would offer a large improvement over the current GPU cooler situation. Enthusiasts have been modding their cards to do this same thing for years now, it's time for graphics card manufacturers to get the hint and start offering this out of the box.
Would love that too, but i think mainly the issue would be ask and demand. Or the practicality of it. As DerBauwer mentioned in his last video, its a quad slot GPU so you wouldnt be able to use a e.g. wifi card/bluetooth, or USB card etc in your PCIE slots. To make it a marketable item i suppose they should reasearch a actuall % of people that actually use PCIE accesories and look if its worth the effort. But then again... possibly a PCIE riser and vertical mount in a wide case might just do the job too.
Totally although I would want horizontal fins rather than vertical so the hot air is pushed out the case rather than into the motherboard and side panel. Vertical fins may be better for the GPU itself but it's just straight up selfish to dump it's heat into the case like that.
My gpu's have been running of the shelf fans for years!
On the rad's theyre plumbed into! F air cooling, id never go back :)
the idea is not new, the raijintek morpheus II has 120mm fan supp
@@FutaNoKami Graphics card companies already offer a wide range of cooler configurations, some of which are even more niche, like AIO liquid cooled cards and hybrid coolers. There's no reason 120x25mm fans couldn't be a standard option as well. They'll still sell thinner cards for SFF and expansion card compatibility too.
You know, this should be the standard for most cards these days. I know they will have the crazy looking cards with RGB. The fact that you can swap the fans out is serviceability in the future. WTG Noctua and ASUS.
Would make a 3090 be 4 to 4.5 slots, sure Asus can have a more limited version over the other models.
Yeah, the days where people are trying to cram 2 graphics cards in their case are long gone. There's just not much reason to keep using the skinny heatsinks and small screamer fans. (other than cost savings to the manufacturer) Especially with the ridiculous heat load of modern graphics cards.
@@BriBCG eh, that kinda just rules out mATX builds. With a 3 slot card you still get 1 extra slot at least. However, they could just use half height fans for lower heat cards.
@@startedtech Also completely rules out even a single GPU in ITX builds. My current case can sorta fit a triple but not most of the 3000 line, quad? Forget about it.
I feel like this was overlooked in a lot of reviews even though it’s an amazing feature
Maybe this is the future of GPUs , swapable 120mm fans , easy cleaning, maximum customized, mix and match. The possibilities are endless.
Edit: Completely forgot about the GPU lifespan increase.
nah, it increases a lifespan of a GPU so it won't die in 3-5 years and customer won't be really forced to buy a new one (apart from new games demanding a better hardware).
so won't happen. but you always can tie any fan to any gpu cooler with zip-ties, the only downside - warranty obligations could be ignored by manufacturer in that case.
fan overclocking😆
From a right-to-repair standpoint this is great, as well as allow for user customization without major modification. Because the OEM fans, being only produced for OEM, are really difficult to source when they break, and usually means you have to ship it back for factory warranty. If that has ran out, you're shit out of luck.
there r shit ton of graphics cards with removeable fans. many sapphire models.
There are plenty of fans for specific GPU models on sale on Ebay right now.
This fan shroud thing is really a godsend if it were widespread.
Shoving case fans to GPU really did good things to their temps.
You could do this to any GPU you wanted to if you used zip ties and deshroud it XD
i wish this became a standard for the future, i wouldnt mind extra chonk on cards if it meant that individual fans could be user-replaceable aswell as really modular/customizeable
@@MrPruske I was thinking about not deshrouding it. I'm not really comfortable with opening up my GPU. Would that create turbulent? I am fine with my PC looking a little bit "cursed" as long as the temps kept low and the GPU fans work less.
@@MrPruske OOooorrrr you can 3D print a custom one, a fancier zip tie XD
A complete line of gpu coolers from Noctua would be awesome
Just like arctic's accelero lineup. I have ACX3, gpu stays at 60*c
probably very expensive aswell
Yes , imagine you can swap your current TUF cooler with one from Noctua with all the accessories (paste, pads, etc) in a kit. Would be awesome.
@@ThunderingRoar Just price it the same as GPU Water Block and it will probably find customers who really want quieter, but don't want to go full watercooling. We really just need the heatsink to be easier to disassemble and we are halfway there already.
It took Noctua 20 something years to design a 200mm fan that lived upto their standards for material composition, flex, sound etc. Consider this pairing with a 3070 as a rush job with that redesigned heatsink. If they'd have had 4-5 years to come up with the perfect heatsink to match the A12x25 fans, I'd expect it'd do somewhat better than it already does. Just throwing 120mm fans on a heatsink doesn't necessarily mean it'll actually perform better than what's already there if the heatsink isn't optimized for the differences between the fans capabilities.
I really don't understand why it's not more of a common thing to use standard sized fans for GPU cooling
Money, board partner lose money if they allow their gpu to be able to use standard size fans, why do you think they sell basically the same chip but with different price? It's because of the fan and sometimes heatsink they use,
also it increases a lifespan of a GPU so it won't die in 3-5 years and customer won't be really forced to buy a new one (apart from new games demanding a better hardware).
so won't happen.
There is a ton of things to PCs that I really don't understand. For this issue, it has a lot of things going against it. The slot used for the GPU is typically the first one, and going with a cooler that need 6 slot width to function, like this Asus-Noctua thing, the rest of the slots become unusable. There is no tradition in the industry to shake things up, to keep flexibility while supporting new hardware. Also, using these fans, there is a height limitation in a lot of cases, that prevent this design from being usable. It sort of reminds me about the turtle speed adoption of the dropping of the 5.25" bays.
because there is no real gain in cooling performance whats so ever. you are better off with tripple fan cards.
i ghetto modded my 2080ti and even used 140mm noctua industrials with full 3000rpm on it. Its the same temperature as stock if not a little worse.
@@rachmatzulfiqar well, time to intoduce them with right to repair I guess :)
Please ASUS (or any other AIB manufacturer) make a complete line of gpu with support of 120mm fans 🙏🏻
Just offering a simple plastic fan shroud for 120mm fans that can be purchased as separate product for 5-10$ would be enough... It looks better than using zip-ties and not everyone wants to 3d print it by themselves...
@@veduci22 yes but the fan headers need to be placed in a maner that you don't need to remove the rad
@@veduci22Realistically a shroud + heatsink would be 40 to 80 bucks (this isn't 3D printing quality were talking about lol) or maybe a bit more and prooooooobably won't be covered under warranty. Economies of scale would be needed to drop price which is a problem cause there's so many GPU variations and the heatsinks would have to change per type of card and version.
I really appreciate the ability to swap the fans on the Noctua variant. I wish more GPU makers would adopt this approach
I was waiting for a Delta 120mm High CFM Fan Swap for an "Extreme" air cooled OC.
Nidec Servo Gentle Typhoon 5400rpm
They are just 150,1 CFM. I would go with Delta AFB1212GHE-C, If 38mm fan can be fitted there. They are 240,96 CFM and 27,483mmH2O static pressure.
Probs diminished returns, ive never seen much improvment, be it on heatsinks or rads, going past a certain point. I run 9 3000rpm noctua industrals in my current main rig and the temps (be it coolant temps or temps on motherboard from stuff like vrm's, ssd etc that have heasinks) do stuff all above about 1500-2000rpm despite the massive increase in air (and db) movement. Ive played with deltas in the past but they were just crazy loud.
@@dunxy When you have chance to assemble / play with servers, believe me those Delta fans noise level means nothing.
My suggestion is just for fun and for "tweaking" purpose, not for long term use. Any one who dealt with those kind of fans will know what I mean. No one wants hear loss problem because of those fans. Not no mention the need of a fan grill in front on the blades.
the pc will just take off
I'm surprised no other company have been doing this, finally you can replace fans when they get noisy or break down without replacing the whole cooler/card.
actually GPU replacement fans is not difficult to find, yes it is not as common as 120mm fan tho
Consumers fixing their cards is bad business.
Being able to install the fans of your choice onto your GPU is kind of a cool feature imo that alone is a great selling point
This looks like the way forward. Or at least a serious effort to see more of this style of almost-universal fan shroud.
3:41 actually, there IS one difference in comparison with retail fans. These have custom length 4-pin cable, as stock retail fans would have either too short cable (the 2nd fan farther from hub) or too long cable (1st fan, which sits at the hub). You can also notice fan cables being black instead of typical PWM color scheme.
pretty much every fan out there just has a black sleeve on theiur fans cables nowadays, atleast noctua. I run 22 noctuas in my 1000D and they all have a sleeve made out of rubber, and thats how they came like in the boxes.
@@TheFrisken95 PLEASE post a picture or something of 22 fans in your case
@@Summanis he has a 1000d im surprised he isn't using the full 30 fans
and using ippc's thats 1000$ of fans
Noctua be like:
Wait. That's illegal.
I imagine Noctua's industrial IPPC fans would keep the card even cooler at full bore because of their higher max RPM, while still being just as quiet under normal use.
this card is by far my favorite card , reminds me of the days when GPUs used to have awesome design language
I was so wanting you to throw some Corsair fans on it , then bam there they are .
That’s so awesome 👍👍
*replaces $30 fans with 2 sets of $30 fans*
Removal of the brown is a air-cooled crime - this is the most offensive video 😁
Side note: Haven’t seen one of your videos for a little while now, and I wanted to say you’re looking good man. Cheers to more gains for the both of us 💪🏼
Why dont you also try pushing a slight OC, and see how loud it would get when you push the fans up to 1400-1500rpm and if it still manages to be quieter AND cooler than stock cooler?
Very similar heatsink size to the Raijintek Morpheus after-market VGA cooler (which I'm buying tomorrow when latest pay-check clears).
I'd really love it if VGA card manufacturers would release cooler-less cards so we could fit our own coolers without the e-waste, preferably with standard core/mem locations.
E2A: The reason I'd put RGB fans on would be to have temperature controlled colouring (which is something I'd like to do, if I had had money to burn to do entire system)
So if the board is the same with the TUF, can you make a 3070Ti/3080 Noctua?
Most likely not,
while the fan shroud between a standard 3070 tuf and 3080 tuf is the same the cooler and board layout are different. So this Noctua cooler wont fit on a 3080 tuf sadly.
Sure he could. He would only need to measure the heatsink, take an image of it, and I will design one for him. If he has access to a Prusa MK3 printer, we can get this going in a few days. Oh, my designs look awesome with RGB, so maybe he shouldn't ...
you can visit major hardware channel, he already has a solution working for your question
I think the move is the Redux Noctua fans. I love those fans, low noise and look awesome especially with white rubber corners.
I like the shroud with the black fans. The shroud looks like oiled bronze.
Nice, dual 120mm fans work well on GPUs. Can't believe nobody thought of doing it before, as far as I know.
Noctua is one of the good guys. I am seriously thinking about heavily using their products in my next build upgrade. Can't wait for the rest of their releases this year.
this gpu is gunna sell like hot cakes that are fresh baked simply because the fans can be swapped out with whatever the hell you want, wish this could be done with more cards.
If an AIB partner were to offer a model with standard 2x 120mm x25mm fan mountings, it would be disruptive. The biggest differentiators between AIBs (that allow them to upcharge massively between SKUs) are the cooler, power delivery, and BIOS. Standardizing the cooler would commoditize that biggest differentiator, potentially hurting profits. All the AIBs are completely selling through their stock, and they have a supply bottleneck with NVIDIA, so I don’t see much of an economic motivation for incumbents to disrupt here. Good for ASUS for doing this! A BYO fan line would be pro-consumer.
I think the fact that you can easily replace the fans is the best thing about this card.
Can't say I'm as big of a fan of the color, but it definitely gives me ideas of picking it up, swapping the fans after giving the shroud a paint job.
I started to watch the German version of this video and realised that my poor year 12 German was no match for your commentary. Good to be here with the English version 👌
ASUS: Noctua, we need your expertise! How do we make cooler better?
NOCTUA: Just make it bigger, lol!
And they did.
I think it is excellent that Noctua and ASUS are teaming up like this. I would love to see what Noctua Redux fans look like in that shroud.
Would love to see this colab extending to other models.
I really like the idea of this cooler. And it performs to boot.
I kinda do this to all my GPU's remove the shroud and fans leaving the heatsink in place then mount 2 120mm fans on a PCI bracket in the slot under the card = superior cooling performance
Thank you for doing the fan swap.. I suggested this right off the bat.. including to ASUS directly.. and their response was "the chromax fans are different and that Noctua does not of the NF fans in any different colors" I think the black gray aesthetic looks so much better then the "Noctua brown"
This is good way to approach the "right to repair" too. Standardized ware parts that can be sourced as you please means ASUS doesn't have to do you anything special :)
right to repair means that if a part is broken or something is damaged in a product you bought, you can take the product to any repair shop to be repaired or if you want to do it by yourself without being forced to do it the manufacturer way
the old fans are on sale on internet, you can replace them by unplugging or unscrewing the old unit and installing the new one
itx cases will not be able to fit this solution, the gpu is 4 slots, at best, a itx will fit 3 slots gpus if you are lucky so this will work for atx users only, external gpu cases might or might not fir one
the fans on any gpu can be removed and replaced with this type of fan, you can even use zipties to put a traditional fan if you have the space, the plastic part can be unscrewed on many gpu models if not all, i even did it on a gt 1030!
where your right to repair is being destroyed is on iphones, latest model will not allow you to change a single part, all has to be done by apple directly
The best thing about this is if a fan dies its really easy to replace!
Another review of the Asus Noctua 3070 mentioned that the temps all over the card were excellent. Like the backplate was just above room temp. (I think it was Jayz2Cents.) ... When compared to the temps of the back of some cards which you can barely touch because they get hot. Outstanding cooling.
My first thought when you said "retail fans" with an adapter was "Hey that sounds like the best way to change fans of a GPU" and basically whenever someone talks about his old GPu he will mention degration of the fans. happaned to me as well. so just this shroud is probably worth it for every single somewhat enthusiast, just because this card will be running for 10 years without a problem by simply upgrading the fans halfway through the lifespan.
Massive Heatsink with Great Fans
This is just a different level of GPU air-cooling, hope this starts a new trend among AIB's cause the results are just spectacular 🎉
Except for the extreme thickness 4.3 slot thickness. For get itx and some mtx builds
@@jeremytine the thickness means there can be limits in which systems you can install them, but overall if it produces better thermals and acoustics plus if you don't need the other expansion slots occupied I think it's worth it imho
@@elishapiccio2648 worth it to a very niche few maybe, but it is too restrictive to sell well and will fail commercially. An AIO design will offer as good or better cooling and much better case compatibility. 5 pci slots is just too much.
@@jeremytine Point taken, it's just really awesome to see really great acoustic performance and thermals just right
@@elishapiccio2648 no argument, and even better than that, off the shelf part repairability.
I really like that it takes standard 120 fans and it looks good. I hope to see more company's do something similar.
The problem most manufacturers make their margin on the cooler, not the gpu so that’s why they don’t sell raw heatsinks i think
Shoutout to people who have been zip tying 120mm fans to their graphics cards for the past 10+ years.
Just wait till Major Hardware finally makes a series on different GPU fan designs by fans (Fan Showdown)! It's gonna be wild!
I also agree with the majority of comments that this kind of design should become the norm, since fans are one of the first thing to fail and having easy access to a replacement instead of having to hunt for an exact match (if at all possible to replace) would be amazing. Not to mention being able to pick and choose whether you want to go performance, or silence or RGB or any mix of the above.
Hypno-owl has mesmerized me. 😵💫
It's silly, but I really hope that this Noctua card idea to use regular PC fans on an extra-large heatsink catches on for aftermarket coolers. Not every PC enthusiast wants a water block or a LN2 pot.
Please place those fans on stock 3070 Dual, removing shroud. Very interested in how those additional 10mm of heat sink impact results.
i second this. DO IT.
an option to buy a barebone gpu with a fat heatsing to add your own 2 fans too would be cool. Also might be cheaper to manufacture aswell
Honestly, if the shroud was designed around low profile 120s, and a slightly smaller cooler, my *guess* is you could achieve a more "normal" form factor that's still quiet and cool
It looks sick with RGB. FORGIVE ME NOCTUA :D
I can really see some manufacturers, or at least ASUS continue this trend since the reduced noise levels is pretty good along with thermals too. Even if you price the "Air-Block", as similar to waterblock, the advantages of reduced noise levels without going full water-cooling, will probably draw some enthusiast in, especially in SFF space where any reduction in DBA will be helpful.
Also, with GPU consuming more and more power, this solution will probably be needed to keep bulk down, before thickening or lengthening the heatsink.
this kind of design also reduces e-waste by making it easier to swap fans if one happens to break. Of course replacing a fan on a gpu is possible for any model but the barrier to entry is important, and it's also a lot easier to buy a normal 120mm fan than an oem gpu fan that isn't generally sold to the public
The Noctua fans I have used as case exhaust and PSU cooling, transduce no additional sound/noise that I can detect, when those isolators are not installed.
i would gladly buy one of these if/when i could just go to newegg or microcenter and buy this for whichever model i wanted. like if this was a 3080 Ti, i think it would be a great choice. Glad Asus is working with Noctua and EK to make new product offerings.
I don't usually replace stock fans but when I do, I always choose Noctua. Well done.
I used some Arctic 92mm fans on a HD8750 a few years back... ran soo cool and quiet
Sooner or later, there should be a standard for all GPU so we can use 3rd party mounting and fans which is way more superior than the stock fan and heat sink of the GPU.
Major Hardware Designed & 3D Printed his own shroud to mount 2x 120mm PWM Fans
@@shaneeslick 4-6 zip-ties is enough actually. no need to print shiz.
nah, it increases a lifespan of a GPU so it won't die in 3-5 years and customer won't be really forced to buy a new one (apart from new games demanding a better hardware).
so won't happen.
@@rawdez_ if you are happy with a Dodgy Backyard Mechanic Style Cooler they yeah,
but not everyone is happy with that & like me prefer having A PC with a Quality Build Look
Just go water and be done with it.
if you hold onto hardware long it will always last, if you upgrade every gen your previous gen card with coverall will still sell for a good price, premium over anything with air cooler because smart buyer will know card has had much easier time thermally. Rads,plumbing and pump/s last ages. Ive found fan lifespan longer on rads as well, i always run them pull so rad acts like a good filter. Im slack and pullfdown for flush and remove fans clean etc every 2-4 years and ive still got fans that run perfect after 7+ years. Dont think ive ever had a case/heatsink fan survive that long, ever! Even on cases with good intake filters that i used to clean regularly, always bought high end fans.
That bracket that fit standard 120mm fans is cool. If use Arctic P12 fans because it's barely as good as the Noctua's but for a lot less money and I can buy more of them.
They have a D-RGB version of the P12 now, though it's hard find in stock at the moment.
For those whom don't have room for such a high slot card, it wouldn't be that hard to use a shroud designed for use with 15mm fans like the A12x15 instead of the A12x25, especially on mid-range cards like the 5700xt or 3060. Just being able to easily replace/swap gpu fans is awesome, should have been done years ago.
the Plastic fan shroud also looks to be 3D printable... savvy users can make their own black covers with other Chromax fans.
One of the sickest mods I have ever seen!
I personally do not like the styling of that card (I do like the brown) but I love the standard fans and fan headers. This would be a nice to have on any cooler. Even using 90mm to get triple fans on a card, It would be nice to plug and play with any 90mm fan.
I like the way that it's more modular; so if a fan fails it's easy to replace, or if the GPU dies or becomes obsolete I'd still be able to easily repurpose the fans.
I do think they could probably shave some extra width off the card if they changed the way the fans are mounted. If the fan shroud over the top was omitted and instead the fans were held on by being either mounted to a simple metal plate between the fans and cooler, or a set of bent wire spring clips as many CPU coolers use to mount their fans.
You should do an all Noctua theme build with the Noctua 3070, a D-15, and only beige and brown case fans. I think it would look really cool and be very quiet.
I love everything about this video.
I wish ALL GPUs had standard 120mm fans in them.
I have an HP NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 card, I was told it was a reference card with a different fan shroud (has the 12 pin connector on top). This would be a great mod to do to it. I only wish I had a 3D printer. I would be making my own shroud and doing something similar to this design.
HA! this is extremely good unit, swappable any fan! super good maintainable unit.
With my previous asus 1070 card, all fans died. They died so fast I did not trust them anymore so I just zip-tied some 12cm fans to it. Performance, cooling and noise levels improved by a LOT. Never understood why they didn't come with bigger fans.
Nice comparison and content and you're right Asus should do this to other models as well.. btw, you should get a test bench :) keep it up..
feel even smarter after he explains it, this man needs to make more videos
Asus Noctua fan GPU…. Brown - love it 🥰, Black - love it 🥰 RGB - love it 🥰 …. This Asus Noctua collaboration GPU is a modders dream 🥰🥰🥰👍👍🥳🥳
Thats a badass cooler man, Asus preparing early for the dual GPU space heaters to come
More cards should be built with off the shelf 80mm, 92mm or 120mm fans. I would like to see a noctua ITX 3060/3060 ti model with a 92mm fan. Like an MSI Aero ITX, but with a noctua fan.
a guy/channel named Major Hardware 3d printed a cooler for a 3060 and it looked identical to the noctua one you could make this cooler for any card very easily
a guy called major hardware, lol
If I didn't already have a 3060TI I'd probably be looking for this babbu. One can hope that ASUS keeps this partnership up and releases at least one Noctua model for their mid-range cards, or just starts using these kinds of fan shrouds in conjunction with the NF-A12x15 low profile fans.
Also of note, Noctua did announce a Chromax Black version of the A12x25 a couple weeks ago. So that'll be an option in the future, literally same exact fan design, just in black.
I am surprised you didn't go full Ham and try the Industrial PPC Noctua fans on to see the jet engine cooling it could provide
A better cooler which runs silent at normal spec, will also allow for better performance range when OCd. so apart from comparing noise level, gaming performance can also be compared with normal cards
this hub in the frame of the noctua cooler gonna change a lot of thing
While I primarily use custom loops in my builds, having swappable fans on the GPU fan shrouds would be outstanding!! This needs to be something that catches on and start happening asap!!
Probably wishful thinking, but.. yeah!
Would love to have customization for 120mm fans, etc.. different sizes to replace the graphics fans, can be modular design
It's a good thing. Hope fully in the future we can swap 120mm fans of choice. Nice work. I don't like the brown fans though. Never did.
Modularity is crossing the silver lining in GPU's, and who do we thank for it? That beige company.
Yeah I had no idea the Noctua one used standard fans. That is amazing. This feels like a special device.
This is a great card with fantastic cooling performance and servicibility too. If I ever get this card (or something like it) I would definitely want to try using the Phanteks T30-120 fans or the Arctic BioniX P12 fans on this card. I hope to get either one of these for my graphics card at home and see how I can improve my temperatures on the current graphics card before moving onto something similar.
Corsair has just found a new idea to widen their product catalogue.
I think all GPU manufacturers should make it a standard :)
We would be able to swap the fans ourselves.
i wish noctua release GPU fan shroud/Heatsink for different GPU makers that will plug and play, that will be great for noctua and specially for older/newer gpu that wants silent or more efficient cooler and makes more performance.
I'm a fan of silence, but for the sake of full testing, it would be nice to also do test in the performance mode too.
Majorhardware had a awesome video where he made his own 3d printed shroud!! awesome video btw
Definitely there should be a 3090 with Noctua in works. But most likely, will be even more expensive than a Suprim X.
I will love to see some aftermarket GPU cooler's from noctua like back days from Gelid and adapted for 120mm fans.
I have made an RTX 3070 Noctua Edition (but very hacky) with a 3070 Dual by deshroudding it. It was just before the launch of this card and I cannot believe how much cooler and quieter my card became, even if the heatsink isn't as good as this one. The real thing is likely even better. I'd have bought it if it was available back then.
Looks like a win for consumers and right to repair....
Lets just see which GPU card manufacturers are on the side of light and those that are with the dark side eh?. 😉
right to repair? the companies sell the fans that you can replace, no one stops you to replace the fans for 120mm normal fans and plug them to a fan header
right to repair means that you can repair things, you can do whatever you want with your gpu, is not like a iphone without spare parts and a firmware that does not allow replacement parts or will disable features
I bet if this was replaced with BeQuiet’s 120mm fans, that can still looks better. But also increases more airflow while removing coil wine noises too
I also suspected the main reason for the low temps is that chunky cooler. Not so much the specific noctua fans.
Thanks for this video!
That title is fucking hilarious
:D