12900K - Impressive Overclocking Potential.... but there is one Manufacturer Faking OC Results
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I love how when the embargo is up and everyone else are releasing normal reviews, you skip straight to extreme overclocking. Perfectly sums up why you're my favourite.
everything else is moot
Tbh, can't wait for Steve and Jay to also start doing this let's make it a 3 way competition 👀.
@@RedRingOfDead add hw unboxed steve into the mix for double the steve
@@cin2110 i like the way you think 👀. Double the Steve. That means UNLIMITED ⚡POWAHHHHHH⚡
@@cin2110 the only quad way we need
Even when Roman is very mad he comes across as calm, cool, collected.
The scariest kind of angry
Well that's because he's german.
The Dissapointed angry, the worst.
The low temps keep his brain running on high freqs
@J M Not advocating for us to beat our kids? Now you're talking crazy!
this is why I love this channel. No BS, you give us as it is. Cheers!
The shot of you melting the ice at the end was fantastic.
17:55 HiCookie was roasted hard
hicookie & gigglebyte btfo
12:50 there is just something majestic about your board showing becoming a pristine RGB winter wonderland ☃️❄️🟥🟩🟦
They probably used there awesome Exploding PSU's to send 230V to the CPU to get a 8Ghz+ cpu-z capture for a brief moment! XD
Underrated comment
Worth following on this. I have scant knowledge of it but it sounds like
something to get a score.
*50 Ghz
HAHAHAHA
Gigabyte have got some bad apples in positions of authority, it seems. The last year has been a string of them pulling shady, underhand tricks.
Good investigative work Roman we as consumers appreciate your honesty more then you know.
Ty der8auer, love the end!
Well done Gigabyte ...I also achieved 11.7GHz overclocked with my i5 10600k using an air cooler but unfortunately it was all a dream 🤣🤣
I was about to say with a kraken 360 AIO and i7-11700k I’m seeing 4.9ghz pretty steadily wtf am I doing wrong.
Then saw it was all a dream lol.
i oc my 10100f to 27.6ghz then i woke up
Best part of the video was the last part ! love the tone and how you called Gigabyte and HiCookie out!
gigabyte doing shady shid... what a surprise 😒
Yup, they've put themselves on my do not buy list that way... Just sell products truthfully, don't lie.
Gigabyte is a horrible company honestly. Lying about their stuff and the worst customer service ever.
@@mrawesomelemons their customer service in general is the worst.
at least they are not as bad as Asrock or Biostar
Man, seems like Gigabyte can’t do anything with integrity.
Gigabyte: sponsor a LN2 overclock battle between derBauer and Hi-Cookie. Only way to resolve the situation.
International corporations and the great greed fest there is no bottom to this barrel the word ethics is not in their dictionary.
@@vibonacci its not solving anything, when companies do bad, those bad things get remembered for a long time. Companies that cheat their way around should not get an easy "we're sorry sponsorship"
They're pretty good at making things explode, that seems to be the one thing they're really committed to. Maybe they think that counts as integrity.
It's amazing how fast Gigabyte and MSI have lost me as a lifelong customer.
Damn, I wouldn't want to be the person who disappoints Roman, both in personal and industrial senses. Great video, terrifying notes at the end, thank you
Imagine earning a lifetime ban from xoc validation because your marketing team pressured you into a bruh move.
That's basically what HiCookie is risking with that stunt.
Can't do the time, don't do the crime.
ah, shady tactics by gigabyte again. classic.
Not even just Gigabyte the company, but HiCookie himself posting bullshit low-load "validation" results. CPU-Z's dev, d0cTB, called him out, too. Literally a reporting error confirmed by CPU-Z, Intel that Gigabyte hacked around by tweaking the microcode *post* OC to change the reported clock vs actual clock.
Like the PSU disaster wasn't enough smh
@@user-ck2xz1ws7m 🤣Actually came here to say "but at least the motherboard used to obtain the faux results didn't explode"...
Gigabyte: Bad publicity? Nah, it's all good
There are always cheaters in OC competitions. Can't stand it. I won one a long time ago. Right at the very end of the competition, some guy popped in uploading his results that beat everyone by quite a bit lol. All I could do was call him out. He was cheating by falsifying his stock clock performance results, making them lower than they should have been so that his overclocked performance gains would be a higher percentage than they should have been.
The judges believed me and I won first place in both maximum stable overclock gain (percentage gained by frequency) and maximum performance gained from overclock because they voided his result.
You can actually still see the thread with the competition online on the website that hosted it. Don't really want to share it because that whole thing tainted it for me. I'm still there calling him out and offering the only proof I could from where I sat. Everyone agreed, though, and backed me up. Still... it just makes me cringe. I still halfway wish I let it go or handled it some other way. I always feel like I overreacted. A bittersweet memory.
Part of what still irks me today about it is that no one freaking realized that he was cheating. Why did I have to be the one to call it out? Me.. the guy that was in first place and getting knocked to second place because of the guy cheating. THAT'S what makes it all feel weird to me. He had to seriously screw his stock clock performance results up because my overclock was really high. It was air cooled stuff but I had something like a 93% overclock. So that made his stock performance results have to be tampered with by such a big margin that it was super obvious. No one else with the same set up scored that low stock and then got equivalent gains when overclocked.
Anyways.. I'm done. Who cares?
Doing such a thing is disrespectful to everyone! Gigabyte didn't need to do that they have good stuff, they just make people disbelieve their publicity.
We are in a age where corporations and wealthy folks gives no fucks about what we the common people think.
They've trashed the basic Gigabyte reputation, it looks like it's time to flush away the years spent building up the Aorus name as well!
those ending shots were very satisfying
You're truly a gem in the over saturated market of TH-cam reviewers. You, Gamers Nexus & Jayztwocents are my top 3. Great job as always! You've gotten me super interested into overclocking
Consider adding Hardware Unboxed for some additional deep dives and Paul's Hardware for some inspired satiric commentary 👍
@@carlhudson1613 Jaystwocents. 😆
@@generalgrevous1984 I agree, I watch some of Jay's stuff but to me he always comes off as a bruh...
@@427cidpower He's a straight up shill. Jay's vid 'I said Monitors suck now... then this showed up...' reviewing the Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 was overtly positive and didn't mention any of the issues plaguing that monitor as pointed out by Hardware Unboxed just a week prior. Hardware Unboxed is legit....Jay is a clown looking to line his pocket.
They cater to different audiences, Jay is very casual, whereas GN and hardware unboxed is more enthusiast. Roman I would say is more for the casual overclocker, dumbing down the content, then there's buildzoid who only caters for the hardcore, simply doesn't care if you can't follow along, but you'll learn loads if you do
Wow I can't believe them, I saw this while catching up on XOC stuff. again thanks for doing the awesome work y'all do
Every other tech youtuber: 12900k Benchmarks. Derbauer: 12900k NITRO OVERCLOCK!!!!!!
Never forget Gigabyte are still selling faulty PSUs that have inproperly configured overcurrent protection that has during normal operation (and when tested on proper PSU testing equipement) trips, resets then blows up if it trips again thanks to swapping out for cheaper comoponents and when they were confronted about this by Gamers Nexus (after they'd spent a long time testing) were ignored then Gigabyte released a disingenuous statement pretty much saying 'Steve and GN are noobs and put the PSUs under strain they weren't rated for'.
Gigabyte's recent track record says they are an untrustworthy company that lie about things far more important than max clockspeeds, at least this lie couldn't start a fire or fry the rest of your PC!
i currently have a Gigabyte MOBO from 2015 (Ultra Gaming X99), still going strong but I think I'll switch brands based on your post. Would you recommend ASUS or MSI ?
@@harpoon_bakery162 at this point anything except gigabyte is better :D I am using ASUS B550-E Gaming. It is pretty good.
btw, keep in mind that not everything gigabyte makes is bad. It is just that they made too many shady/shitty things last couple of years. IMO not buying a gigabyte mobo is nothing more than not to give any money to a shady company.
Thx for cutting to chase , appreciated ur work
Thx for the info man.
I am not very into overclocking (cus I suck at it), but its always important to keep companies in check.
Good on you for calling out the BS.
Completely agree with YOU ! GREAT MATERIAL
We trust you, and believe you !!
I remember when OC'ing your Q6600 to 3.0Ghz+ was considered incredible.
Damn I'm getting old.
I had a QX 6700 at 4ghz. I was in uncommon company then. I remember BSEL modding Q6600's with tape on Dell's etc to get them to 3ghz. The good ol' days.
That's not long ago? Back in the days we thought our 40mhz running at anything more than 45mhz was incredible :P
And I used to ha and Amd K6-2 450mhz running stable at 900mhz as my everyday rig....
Hmmm. Maybe I was just late, and got better silicon... but my E0 stepped Q6600 I got to 3.0 without any voltage bump. Just changed multiplier.
haha yeah, I saw DDR5 8500 and thought "Wow that's pretty sick, closest I've got is PC2 8500"
When Roman's not just disappointed but straight up angry, you've really fucked up bad.
Wundershön :))) pretty and interesting 👍🏼
Except for Gigabyte, who are just TRASH.
Can’t protect their own network.
customer service 0/10
Exploding PSU
Break NDA...
Any lower???
Terrible motherboards and gpus that operate hotter at lower than base clock speeds compared to FE
@@louiesatterwhite3885 nah their motherboards are fine
@@ThunderingRoar aorus board are fine. Normal gigabyte is very cheaply build and unstable.
@@samson_the_great well you get what you pay for, unlike asrock where even their midrange boards suck
It is the launch day, and Roman is already doing extreme OC. I'm not disappointed! 😁
I love how when he says bugged it sounds like...... lol
Excellent video & glad you touched on the fake validations!
Okay so another company added to my personal "do not give money too" list, now it's MSI, Thermaltake and now Gigabyte, thank you for investigating
ha, that's my exact some company list as well :)
Roman shows no fear. Good on you.
Roman: Need LN2 😎
Supplier: Haha new CPU release?
Roman: O Yeah! 🤠
Can't wait to see what zen 4 late next year does, performance on ln2 looks nice on alder lake
Outstanding work!
I think melting down the ice at the end of the video looked really cool after that legendary bashing session.
Good Christmas marketing screens for Corsair memory. Ho ho ho.
nice for doing this ...lot of respect to you bruh
your the best mate and and luv from AUS to you and the team keep these corporations honest ............. luv it mate great work team \M/
In my 24 years experience with PC's I have only brought and used one Gigabyte product a Gigsbyte mobo used around about 2005 for an AMD Athlon 64 build and never again. I have used Asus mobo's ever since and have never had a problem so far, yes I suppose I am a bit of an Asus fanboy or is there such a thing as a fangranddad?
Just like back in the hdd days always had problems with Seagate hdd not reading etc then I switched to WD and never had a problem, different story now a days with ssd reliability.
Good stuff Roman for keeping things real👍
OK, so i have a Gigabyte that i've been using since like 2016 (ultra gaming x99) but this ticks me off and i just bought a 12700K intel CPU that i need a motherboard for, what mobo should i get? I have a mid-tower chassis so full size ATX style mobo needed. ASUS or MSI ? And if ASUS, what model 690 should i get ? I am going to go with DDR5 memory. Any suggestions are appreciated. I'm done with GB.
thank you for keeping it real
I got into ln2 oc for the first time with the 2080 Ti KP when it launched, Almost all I care about with new hardware lol, love that you show normal retail samples as thats all I get :D
Thanks for video, brah!
Love the Power consumption display board
Idk why gigabyte feels like it needs to be scammy. It has seen great income in the last couple years and the bad press on all this stuff isn't going to benefit them.
When they are so blatantly cashing in on their name recognition, in a way that is going to permanently tar that name, you kinda have to wonder if they know something we don't. If they are aware of likely future events that will render their brand name irrelevant, it makes a bit more sense why they'd pillage their own reputation for a slight edge now.
@@mal2ksc you alluding to a possible ccp takeover ?
@@diaman_d Actually I was thinking something much less impactful. I was thinking they didn't put in enough chip orders when they were cheap, and now they're getting squeezed out of the market, meaning they're just going to run out of parts and not survive the disruption.
If CCP invasion was the fear, they'd be better off scooping up the money they already have and running, rather than trying to extract a little more. So no, that honestly was not what I meant.
@@mal2ksc ok, i get your point. thx for enlighting.
finally a cooling setup that can get it under 80*C
This is what i like about Roman, he stands for proper science.
Anyone touching that will get burned!
love the video i cant believe they trying pull that shit again with such insane claims when i saw the posts for 8ghz i screamed bullshit, and i came right to your channel to see what you had to say about the new cpu's. thank you for all your hard work.
you can get spray on conformal coatings that will help with moisture
The LN2 shots are amazing, I want to get into this space.
I have a 12900k, but waiting for the Unify-X. I want a KPE but I heard its not going to be coming out soon.,
Im running Pentium G7400 on the Unify X. Made a epic Pentium gaming pc with RTX 3050
Even when get pissed Roman is always calm and cool, perhaps because of the daily dose of LN he drinks.
G'day Roman & Stephan,
Some Super Cool Results 🥶
So Gigabyte Marketing Blatantly Lying about the Performance of a Product 🤔 Why do I Not find this 'Explosive' revelation 'Shocking'
Gigabyte is doing a good job lately... pffff
Very good you give that statement to your followers!
OMG look at the size of that VRM setup!..
How was that motherboard still working with so much ice on it!! 😵
throwing down! Even though I'm late to the der8auer party (very late) this was a very enjoyable episode, especially in retrospect, knowing what we do now about the i9-12900 series. If anyone has links to any follow up of the issue at the very end with Gigabyte's fake OC results, please supply them (while I google)
Amazing loved the video thank you.
Never seen Roman so angry.
Only needed to read the title to know that it was Gigabyte...
Super video Roman, cant say thad Gigabyte suprise me with thad stunt ....
That looks like my freezer after I've left it open a couple of times and didn't defrost.
All reviewers day 1: Here is a look at what this CPU can do in all these games and test!
Roman deru8auer day 1: Lets See what we can do with LN2!
that's why we here anyway
the bauer means the builder in english. your english is top notch, sounds better then me ( a dutch guy ) XD nice! good video
indeed, German Engineering :)
What happen if that thing melts? would be water all over the motherboard? I wish you could showed that.
HiCookie should receive a lifetime ban regardless if he tries to submit those results or not. The simple fact that he KNOWS they're fake and yet is helping gigabyte push that marketing is plenty to warrant the ban, as it shows a complete lack of integrity.
Gigabyte's pants are just as on fire as their PSUs
One would think GigaByte would have realized by now that they are on very, very thin ice... Thinner than the last moments of the defrosting at the end of the video.
WoW. You are beast ! Cool video 👍🏻
@der8auer Why do you have links in your vids that is not possible to buy? I wanted to get the debugLED but product is not available anymore. Can you please fix this?
How are you drying motherboard, ram, etc.
This channel need more viewers and subs
Do you run a dehumidifier in your testing environment to reduce the amount of potential condensation?
idk why the dual stick ram is closed to each other for some reason.
despite of that, good results! the setup is pretty much overkill but
i guess you really need a liquid nitrogen to reach at least 7ghz for now huh xD
The video went from cool to hot real fast XD
I had no idea you had a new channel just for EN Content, nice but i figured since i almost only saw German contant on the main channel
"How many power phases should we use on this board?"
"Yes."
It does pull 250w stock soo… good on ASUS I say
Love your stuff bro
didn't andre yang and hicookie get in hot water many years ago for some something similar with some 3dmark benches?
Nice OC
Now I know what rgb ram is good for - it’s for looking awesome when frozen. 😁
That's messed up, I use to like Gigabyte products but they just lost my business for knowingly doing crap like this.
I'm hearing Roman say "backed" in communicating the concept of "false". What are my ears supposed to be hearing? Or, is "backed" actually a term I'm unfamiliar with in this context?
yeah i enjoyed it, especially the end
Holy VRMs Batman!
Anyone else want to see him swearing in German at the end? 🤣
EYE solute you der8auer
Hello Roman
There's a slight issue with the video: the subtitles automatically generated in German even though you're speaking in english (happens sometimes with youtube).
Could you look into that ?
Cheers !
Did you post the ycruncher screenshot? Awesome avx512 test!
Damn that fricking Gigabyte they always got there heads up there ass....pissing folks off.
Roman, how difficult would it be to create a small enclosed space around the mobo whereby the only thing getting near any of the upper and lower sides of the mobo and all the conductive traces etc. would be DRY nitrogen, either in liquid or gaseous form, I imagine the issue with condensation is only an issue because of condensed water vapor ? or am I wrong in assuming that ? do some components behave differently under the influence of nitrogen ? I suppose it's possible with inductors, ?
Gigabyte just making sure we all have a PC brand to hate on, noble intentions
best OC ever
with that speed still can run banch and game.. awesome
Is it me or does Hetzner's UI look exactly, and I mean exactly like AMD's Adrenalin saftware UI?
Great content as usual Roman, I must say I wish I was as calm and cool as you when mad as hell 👍
Dear de8auer ... in regards of Gigabyte: "There is not such thing as a bad publicity"
"That cooler needs a heater."
GRETA : "How dare you !"
Dope music.