It's not really hate, just an audience not understanding who the camera is for. On a box style camera you really don't need built-in NDs. You have more creative control with external ND options. Blackmagic already said adding internal NDs would have changed the body design, added weight, added cost, changed the body balance, and would have pushed the time to market date out much farther.
Not sure I agree. If the canon C70 can have internal ND with a short flange distance of R-Mount, then technically anyone can do it. If you think internal ND is make or break for a camera is a personal preference, but my assumption is in 18 months we’ll be getting the ‘pro’ version with internal ND
@@benhay2317 Probably. Dan May already hinted at future Pyxis models. I'm going to be using NiSi Athena Primes with drop-in ND blades, so I won't care if they add internal NDs in the future. The important part for me... is getting into the Pyxis ecosystem now. My preorder is in; just hope I actually get one in June!
According to specs it seems a fine value for money box camera, perfect for low budget projects. I would love to try it and as for nd its not a problem there filters for that. I love box style cameras also the black magic pocket 6k design was so annoying to rig it in a gimbal.
Was thinking between this and a 10 year old Red Dragon. Decided to go with the red. There is just something about old sensors that resonate within me. I think the older black magics (BmpccOG & 4k) are amazing and still the best bang for your buck. They will have a permanent place in my heart. But the newer ones produce an image that lacks character (in my opinion).
The most overlooked port on the Pyxis is the front USB-C which provides a Display Port feed and power. At the moment the only set-ready accessory designed for the port is the pro EVF from BM. But there are already tons of cheap USB-C monitors (laptop companion screens) on the market which should run off this port, and given a little bit of time, third party makers will have inexpensive camera monitor options available before you know it. Monitors which will not require an external battery or power feed or SDI cabling. To me it’s a brilliant upgrade-except for the fact that BM didn’t offer a suitable monitor at launch. I can’t wait to test this out. It’s possible you could run a 15” monitor off the port no problem. Well obviously rigging and size practicality would be a problem but monitors of the right proportions with more sturdy housings will come along fairly quickly I suspect.
There are apparently Canon BP batteries used by the RED Komodo and Canon C100, etc. and Sony BP-U used by cameras like the Sony FX6. I believe the Pyxis takes the Sony BP-U type. From what I can tell they are not cross compatible at all.
Yes, definitely! Obviously if you are someone who needs autofocus this one won’t be for you, but if you are mainly filming with manual focus I think it’s amazing!
I personally would be hesitant to recommend this camera for any outdoor events filming which runs into the evening-unless you have a lot of control over the available lighting. On the S35 bodies I thought ISO3200 was usable, but it’s a mess on the full frame sensor. However it’s not all bad news, during the day the native ISO400 means less ND on the camera, and the sensor handles highlights quite well. A daytime wedding? Not a problem. A well lit indoor event? Sure. But if you’re working under a tent after sunset with low mood lighting, you probably want an FX3 or FX6 and that ISO12800 option.
@@waveland thank you! Tbh is the only thing that’s worries me, but I have set my mind to test it (through the 6K FF) by myself. It’s definitely a limitation, but I believe you can make it work as I have worked with sensors not designed for low light.
it's an Ok, camera. Not worth 3k, especially considering you may need 2k to 3k in accessories for it. but, if you already own a lens and monitor for it, 1.5 - 2k would be a good price just for the box body...
@@rumenalexandrov The sensor isn’t a high-end cinema beast. However, from the testing I’ve seen posted recently, in 17:9 the readout is the same as the $25,000 Burano and at base ISO the DR is very close to the Sony. However, the BM FF sensor is not well suited to low light, so if you shoot documentaries with limited light control then spend the extra money for an FX6.
I have the ff 6k. It needs light. So if you’re noting using lighting or shooting outside during the day you might as well look somewhere else but the image is super clean when the sensor has enough light.
It's not really hate, just an audience not understanding who the camera is for. On a box style camera you really don't need built-in NDs. You have more creative control with external ND options. Blackmagic already said adding internal NDs would have changed the body design, added weight, added cost, changed the body balance, and would have pushed the time to market date out much farther.
Absolutely agree with you!
Not sure I agree. If the canon C70 can have internal ND with a short flange distance of R-Mount, then technically anyone can do it. If you think internal ND is make or break for a camera is a personal preference, but my assumption is in 18 months we’ll be getting the ‘pro’ version with internal ND
@@benhay2317 Probably. Dan May already hinted at future Pyxis models. I'm going to be using NiSi Athena Primes with drop-in ND blades, so I won't care if they add internal NDs in the future. The important part for me... is getting into the Pyxis ecosystem now. My preorder is in; just hope I actually get one in June!
According to specs it seems a fine value for money box camera, perfect for low budget projects. I would love to try it and as for nd its not a problem there filters for that. I love box style cameras also the black magic pocket 6k design was so annoying to rig it in a gimbal.
Was thinking between this and a 10 year old Red Dragon. Decided to go with the red. There is just something about old sensors that resonate within me. I think the older black magics (BmpccOG & 4k) are amazing and still the best bang for your buck. They will have a permanent place in my heart. But the newer ones produce an image that lacks character (in my opinion).
The most overlooked port on the Pyxis is the front USB-C which provides a Display Port feed and power. At the moment the only set-ready accessory designed for the port is the pro EVF from BM. But there are already tons of cheap USB-C monitors (laptop companion screens) on the market which should run off this port, and given a little bit of time, third party makers will have inexpensive camera monitor options available before you know it. Monitors which will not require an external battery or power feed or SDI cabling. To me it’s a brilliant upgrade-except for the fact that BM didn’t offer a suitable monitor at launch. I can’t wait to test this out. It’s possible you could run a 15” monitor off the port no problem. Well obviously rigging and size practicality would be a problem but monitors of the right proportions with more sturdy housings will come along fairly quickly I suspect.
There are apparently Canon BP batteries used by the RED Komodo and Canon C100, etc. and Sony BP-U used by cameras like the Sony FX6. I believe the Pyxis takes the Sony BP-U type. From what I can tell they are not cross compatible at all.
Very interesting camera! But do you think that it will fit in to wedding videography?
Yes, definitely! Obviously if you are someone who needs autofocus this one won’t be for you, but if you are mainly filming with manual focus I think it’s amazing!
I personally would be hesitant to recommend this camera for any outdoor events filming which runs into the evening-unless you have a lot of control over the available lighting. On the S35 bodies I thought ISO3200 was usable, but it’s a mess on the full frame sensor. However it’s not all bad news, during the day the native ISO400 means less ND on the camera, and the sensor handles highlights quite well. A daytime wedding? Not a problem. A well lit indoor event? Sure. But if you’re working under a tent after sunset with low mood lighting, you probably want an FX3 or FX6 and that ISO12800 option.
@@waveland thank you! Tbh is the only thing that’s worries me, but I have set my mind to test it (through the 6K FF) by myself. It’s definitely a limitation, but I believe you can make it work as I have worked with sensors not designed for low light.
Shoving a 6 year old sensor with a 19ms latency into a new box-like body does not a new camera make.
Where you from Rumen?
Hi there, from Bulgaria living in France ☺️
it's an Ok, camera. Not worth 3k, especially considering you may need 2k to 3k in accessories for it.
but, if you already own a lens and monitor for it,
1.5 - 2k would be a good price just for the box body...
Show me please which camera is better and with a better value!
The camera is great…but the sensor sucks
I admit not the greatest sensor they produced, however from test footage i've seen and worked on I dont mind it at all!
@@rumenalexandrov The sensor isn’t a high-end cinema beast. However, from the testing I’ve seen posted recently, in 17:9 the readout is the same as the $25,000 Burano and at base ISO the DR is very close to the Sony. However, the BM FF sensor is not well suited to low light, so if you shoot documentaries with limited light control then spend the extra money for an FX6.
I have the ff 6k. It needs light. So if you’re noting using lighting or shooting outside during the day you might as well look somewhere else but the image is super clean when the sensor has enough light.