My god, the amount of work you're putting into your reviews.... MADNESS!!! Thank you so much! I believe what we'd all like to see is a comparison with the Komodo and your thoughts on whether the gap might get closed over time. If to some degree it isn't already for some shooters.
Amazing review. You really went the extra mile rigging it up with lots of extra possibilities like with the DJI stuff just to test it out. Magnificent work. Excellence in camera reviews.
your intro frame is such a flex at your skills. damn it looks nice! always a pleasure to listen to your reviews while i work on 3d modeling (wishing i was out filming haha)
I'm new to all things camera and recording because I'm only a video editor but I'd love to learn how to use this piece of equipment. This video seriously opened my eyes, thank you so much
EDIT: A comparison to the latest and greatest C80 and C400 would be great. Thank you so much for this review. All of these other youtubers out there tell us how they liked the camera but barely compare any synthetic info. But in a review this is (against of the opinion of many of yall out there) incredibly important because thats the only way I can judge wether or not a camera can fulfill MY specific usecase. It may work great for yours, but maybe it doesnt for mine. Especially thanks for that rolling shutter comparison, I realised that the 3:2 Open gate and 6:5 anamorphic mode may be nice for anamorphic recording even up to 2x squeezes you'd get from Atlas Orion Lenses but panning with a 200mm 2x squeeze will give you extremely messed up results. But that'd probably apply even to an FX3 since 200mm 2x squeeze is a rolling shutter worst case scenario. But such slow rolling shutter definitely limits the PYXIS' anamorphic any other super fast pace capabilities despite its 3:2 open gate recording. Its probably better suited for less super fast pace camera movements. Its not a bad camera - its incredible. I'd definitely look at it as a B-Cam for now.
Great review, probably the best and more balanced I've watched so far, thanks! A list of things I think they really have to addressed however are: 48p but NOT 50p in 6K16:9 (guess the same for 17:9), only one codec available, sensor performances and readout not terrible but certainly could be improved, just ONE mini XLR (hope at least would be able to record simultaneously multiple tracks from the single xlr and the 3.5 jack), not rotating screen layout, it can't (as far as I know) record on both Cfe cards at the same time, NO tally lights (leds are expensive those days) and commands only on the operator side, moreover with a rec button that got locked as well if you lock the other keys. Definitely also need extra handle with rs functions and the bm external monitor (wish they could introduce also a slightly bigger 7 inches version with reduced bezels) to change the menu while operating the camera (even this you may not be able to use the bm viewfinder at that point. Glad your mentioned that despite the competitive price of this camera, it can't just be used as it is out of the box (somehow similarly as with Red cameras), those added cost to me putts pyxis more in line with other offerings from Canon or Sony.
Great review I just subscribed, this will be my first camera, first cinema camera and I can already tell it’ll be my dream setup because it’s so malleable
Thanks for the review. Internal NDs and A-grade autofocus would make this camera a no-brainer. The menus and accessories are so well thought out compared to the mirrorless competition.
Great review, thanks for taking the time to go over everything, ESPECIALLY that the USB-C port will work for run/stop with some handles and cables. Really wanted to know that one. update: I can confirm that the Tilta cable mentioned does not work with two different Smallrig RS handles with USB-C connections i just tested. Ordered the power advanced Tilta now.
if you like un-usable rolling shutter and having to justify why dont have a Sony/Canon/Arri/Red to the clients or agencies so you can NOT get the job... sure great camera. Good luck getting past the BMD stigma and even the Sony Burano is like DAMN that RS is BAD. This is a personal cinema camera at best, dont drink BMD koolaid.... IT WONT GET YOU JOBS at least in the USA
@@NoSuRReNDeR001 Because it is so, so difficult to put 90%-95% safety margin guideline, enter camera metadata and select “gyro” in DaVinci to essentially eliminate the rolling shutter. If Greg Fraser loves BMD I don’t think I need pucker up to some agency or client to convince them of anything. As long as the tool (camera) has what is needed for the job, and my reel showcases what they want, that’s all that matters. This camera is fantastic.
@@NoSuRReNDeR001 Because it's so, so, so difficult to use 90-95% safe margins, enter the lens metadata (which can also be done in post), and then under "gyro" in DaVinci Resolve set it to "0" and wait 2 seconds for the rolling shutter to be essentially eliminated.
Such a thorough review! 🙏 It'd be great to see you compared the Pyxis image quality and options to Canon's C80, given that it'd be a somewhat close price point and size.
Would love to see a comparison between the Pyxis, and Z Cam F6 series. Especially with the later firmware updates to the Z Cam, resolving some of their earlier issues.
For accessories, the BMD top handle is $200 USD, for just the handle!! There are third-party top plates and handles you could get that are combined at a lower price. There's also a sizeable jump in price from the no-frills pyxis monitor kit, to the mid-tier kit. IMO you are better off just getting a magic arm or third-party rotating mount and cheap USB-C cable.
I hope Blackmagic/CVP offer the monitor mounting options separately at some point. I can see getting the monitor on it's own if you already have some mounting options and then later wanting to change to the BM system (for whatever reason) but it not being available without the monitor.
Sold my 6K Pro simply because I didn't like the form factor. Far too big. Far too clunky. And because of that, I was always reaching for my Panasonic instead. But the Pyxis looks like an excellent alternative. And those skin tones and the overall colour science coming out of the Pyxis simply exquisite! I guess that means I'm getting back into the Blackmagic ecosystem again. Brilliant!
I would like to see the Pyxis and C80 compared. I think they end up equivalent in price when you consider the need for a monitor, grip/handle, and a rear ND solution. With the pyxis (or any box camera) its similar to the red ecosystem in that the cost of the camera doesn't reflect the cost to make it functional.
Why does no one (including CVP) point out the fact it doesn't have de-squeeze preview options? I know it's not available for the 6k ff but if it's not available with their monitor you can purchase, you really can't use anamorphics. And with a 3:2 sized sensor, that is a crime! Did I miss that part in the video? it's pretty long so I'm hoping I did :)
4:10 is that mega BITs per second or is that mega BYTEs per second? usually it's uppercase B for bytes and lowercase b for bits. Those numbers look like they should be bytes but I thought its worth checking.
I feel like a future revision with slightly higher dynamic range (not that the current one is bad, but we have clearly seen that Blackmagic can do even better with their own sensors) and internal NDs would be my end-game dream camera. Sacrificing internal NDs is a hard pill to swallow for me coming from the near-perfect BMPCC6K Pro.
if it aint broken don't fix it, my 6k and 4k bmc cameras work great and i don't look like a wannabe while getting equal to if not better results. TBC you showed yourself almost entirely in run n gun scenarios where the original form factor smokes this box, i'll save thousands, thanx for the review👍
I wonder why you changed settings to ARRI LogC4? I tried the same testand it looks exactly identical if I keep it Film gen 5 and color space transform it to rec709
@cvp I had a genuine question, since I am planning to buy the Pyxis and a Digitalfoto Procine Steadicam rig together, I have been trying to figure out a solution to convert 12G SDI output from the Pyxis into a Steadicam rig which can only take a 3G SDI input, I definitely am not keen on blowing out any equipment so if there’s a solution then I would love to see that. I think part of a solution might be related to the viewfinder Type C port, but then I’ll have to put up 2 converters such as from type C to HDMI and then HDMI to 3G SDI converter I guess. I hope there’s an easier solution that I don’t know about yet. Thanks a ton in advance and thank you for a in-depth review as well. I had been eagerly waiting waiting for it.
Ok guys, lets be honest. I have been waiting for Pyxis for more than half a year, and I'm not alone. Many things have happened in the industry in the meantime and unfortunately, I`m already waiting for Fuji XM5, not Pyxis. Lest talk about prices and availability, ok? When (again) it Pyxis going to hit the marker? For how much? I'm an owner of EOS400D, BMPCC4K, EM10m3, OM1m1 and many m43 lenses. Many products have entered the market in the meantime - is BMD willing to correct their course? What are they going to do and when? I love the USB web camera functionality introduced recently in BMD camera firmware (my ATEM PRO ISO has been unplugged indefinitely). But what happens after that? Cheers!
Can you explain please more on Super 35 mode for this that a new system for me I am from Sony and want RAW so considering buying this camera and potential saving on super 35 lenses like Lawoa S35 Ranger
It is a pretty nice camera. But it annoys me that it can only shoot in BRAW. ProRes or maybe another ALL-I Codec would be nice to have, because you don´t need RAW for every project. And hopefully we will get a Pro Version of the Pyxis with Internal ND.
The battery limitations sucks but also makes sense. Sony can accurately read their battery life, and produce accurate runtimes. Looks like Blackmagic can’t talk to the Sony batteries and just reads voltage.
The issue with the pyxis is that it doesnt offer a compelling reason to upgrade to it even over my original pocket 6k. to many iterations that dont create substantial value increases.
the review everyone was waiting on.
EXAAAACTLYYY
Big facts
100%
Brilliant detailed overview as always. Incredible that a retail site does all this work.
Amazing breakdowns for sure. I can't imagine how much time these require to make.
Dope
Still crazy blackmagic doesn't offer preview de-squeeze options with a 3:2 sized sensor. Not even CVP is addressing this.
Ursa cine 12k and 17k
We need it
I love that you are actually objective and treat cameras like the tools they are, always fair and balanced, no 'fan boys' of any one brand.
Great review as always guys! They really nailed the form factor and build quality on this one :).
The “spamming button” autofocus is hilarious 😂
Please review the Ursa Cine 12K!!
My god, the amount of work you're putting into your reviews.... MADNESS!!! Thank you so much!
I believe what we'd all like to see is a comparison with the Komodo and your thoughts on whether the gap might get closed over time. If to some degree it isn't already for some shooters.
Such a BEAUTIFUL image!! 🙌🏾
The best review of the PYXIS with a bunch of information I never heard before.
Amazing review. You really went the extra mile rigging it up with lots of extra possibilities like with the DJI stuff just to test it out. Magnificent work. Excellence in camera reviews.
your intro frame is such a flex at your skills. damn it looks nice! always a pleasure to listen to your reviews while i work on 3d modeling (wishing i was out filming haha)
Incredible, so well put together and presented.
The rolling shutter shutters everyone that reviewed forget to mention that but the colors are so good black magic is doing great things for us
Rolling shutter can be fixed in Resolve. Blackmagic created a plugin in Resolve specifically for this issue.
THIS is the review i was waiting on.
The review that I've been eagerly waiting for 😅
I'd love to see this compared to the Lumix BS1H. As the two box camera options for L-Mount, I think they'd make for an interesting comparison.
I'm new to all things camera and recording because I'm only a video editor but I'd love to learn how to use this piece of equipment. This video seriously opened my eyes, thank you so much
informative review thanks CVP
THE BEST Blackmagic PYXIS 6K REVIEW
Wow. both the camera and the review. Subbed! Thank you.
Great presentation, Jake!
Love rhe image from the camera.
Yaayyyyy! Been a long wait for thsi
Great video, as always! Would love a comparison to Canon C80/400
EDIT: A comparison to the latest and greatest C80 and C400 would be great.
Thank you so much for this review. All of these other youtubers out there tell us how they liked the camera but barely compare any synthetic info. But in a review this is (against of the opinion of many of yall out there) incredibly important because thats the only way I can judge wether or not a camera can fulfill MY specific usecase. It may work great for yours, but maybe it doesnt for mine. Especially thanks for that rolling shutter comparison, I realised that the 3:2 Open gate and 6:5 anamorphic mode may be nice for anamorphic recording even up to 2x squeezes you'd get from Atlas Orion Lenses but panning with a 200mm 2x squeeze will give you extremely messed up results. But that'd probably apply even to an FX3 since 200mm 2x squeeze is a rolling shutter worst case scenario. But such slow rolling shutter definitely limits the PYXIS' anamorphic any other super fast pace capabilities despite its 3:2 open gate recording. Its probably better suited for less super fast pace camera movements. Its not a bad camera - its incredible. I'd definitely look at it as a B-Cam for now.
Great review, probably the best and more balanced I've watched so far, thanks!
A list of things I think they really have to addressed however are: 48p but NOT 50p in 6K16:9 (guess the same for 17:9), only one codec available, sensor performances and readout not terrible but certainly could be improved, just ONE mini XLR (hope at least would be able to record simultaneously multiple tracks from the single xlr and the 3.5 jack), not rotating screen layout, it can't (as far as I know) record on both Cfe cards at the same time, NO tally lights (leds are expensive those days) and commands only on the operator side, moreover with a rec button that got locked as well if you lock the other keys.
Definitely also need extra handle with rs functions and the bm external monitor (wish they could introduce also a slightly bigger 7 inches version with reduced bezels) to change the menu while operating the camera (even this you may not be able to use the bm viewfinder at that point.
Glad your mentioned that despite the competitive price of this camera, it can't just be used as it is out of the box (somehow similarly as with Red cameras), those added cost to me putts pyxis more in line with other offerings from Canon or Sony.
You summed it up perfectly. IF they release a Pyxis Pro model next year with those features plus internal ND's I'd pay 4.5K euro
By far the most informative review on the Pyxis, as always. Cheers!
Can't wait to see the Ursa Cine 12K review!
It's next on our list! Jake
Same ;)
@@CVPTVcan't wait to see it 🙌🏾😩
That image looks sooooo nice!
Finally a serious review CVP is the best
Great review I just subscribed, this will be my first camera, first cinema camera and I can already tell it’ll be my dream setup because it’s so malleable
Thanks for the review. Internal NDs and A-grade autofocus would make this camera a no-brainer. The menus and accessories are so well thought out compared to the mirrorless competition.
Great review, thanks for taking the time to go over everything, ESPECIALLY that the USB-C port will work for run/stop with some handles and cables. Really wanted to know that one.
update: I can confirm that the Tilta cable mentioned does not work with two different Smallrig RS handles with USB-C connections i just tested. Ordered the power advanced Tilta now.
Such a good camera. And the BMCC 6K FF is an insane value! Didn’t think I would enjoy the form factor but the screen on the back is amazing.
if you like un-usable rolling shutter and having to justify why dont have a Sony/Canon/Arri/Red to the clients or agencies so you can NOT get the job... sure great camera. Good luck getting past the BMD stigma and even the Sony Burano is like DAMN that RS is BAD. This is a personal cinema camera at best, dont drink BMD koolaid.... IT WONT GET YOU JOBS at least in the USA
@@NoSuRReNDeR001 Because it is so, so difficult to put 90%-95% safety margin guideline, enter camera metadata and select “gyro” in DaVinci to essentially eliminate the rolling shutter.
If Greg Fraser loves BMD I don’t think I need pucker up to some agency or client to convince them of anything. As long as the tool (camera) has what is needed for the job, and my reel showcases what they want, that’s all that matters. This camera is fantastic.
@@NoSuRReNDeR001 bla bla bla
@@NoSuRReNDeR001 Because it's so, so, so difficult to use 90-95% safe margins, enter the lens metadata (which can also be done in post), and then under "gyro" in DaVinci Resolve set it to "0" and wait 2 seconds for the rolling shutter to be essentially eliminated.
@@NoSuRReNDeR001 and the BMD stigma? bro, even Greg Fraser supports BMD
Can't wait for the 12k review
If this had internal NDs, I’d be sold.
Great camera and great review. Please BM add simultaneously dual card recording option.
Excellent as always.
Great review.
Can't wait for the URSA Cine 12K ans 17K to show up for review!
During rolling shutter, i think it is useful to mention that it can be improved with Gyro data stabilization
Can we know more about the streaming capability
Thanks
Would love to see the XLCS Cage in your how to upgrade video, its quite different from most other designs on the market.
I agree. it's the cage I'm looking at now.
Such a thorough review! 🙏 It'd be great to see you compared the Pyxis image quality and options to Canon's C80, given that it'd be a somewhat close price point and size.
loving the beard Jake
Pyxis 6k and Lumix S5iiX share the same sensor.
S5iiX + Braw recorder is both cheaper than Pyxis and has more features (AF, IS etc.)
Would you agree?
Would love to see a comparison between the Pyxis, and Z Cam F6 series. Especially with the later firmware updates to the Z Cam, resolving some of their earlier issues.
Incredible, in depth review! I’d love to see a comparison between the Komodo & canon c80 with the PYXIS :)
Nice one! Are you planing to review new Arri Enso and Zeiss nano primes?
What set of lenses did you use for the footage after 24:03? Would help a lot, thanks!
For accessories, the BMD top handle is $200 USD, for just the handle!! There are third-party top plates and handles you could get that are combined at a lower price. There's also a sizeable jump in price from the no-frills pyxis monitor kit, to the mid-tier kit. IMO you are better off just getting a magic arm or third-party rotating mount and cheap USB-C cable.
Thank you very much for the review. It would be interesting to know how the image compares to other brands, like Sony and Canon, in terms of colour.
Would love to see the gyro stabilization turned on for the readout artifacts. I’ve heard it basically corrects all noticeable lag.
Check out our Cinema Camera 6K video which goes into this in detail. th-cam.com/video/JtTDIxXwvoI/w-d-xo.html Jake
I hope Blackmagic/CVP offer the monitor mounting options separately at some point. I can see getting the monitor on it's own if you already have some mounting options and then later wanting to change to the BM system (for whatever reason) but it not being available without the monitor.
Sold my 6K Pro simply because I didn't like the form factor.
Far too big. Far too clunky. And because of that, I was always reaching for my Panasonic instead.
But the Pyxis looks like an excellent alternative. And those skin tones and the overall colour science coming out of the Pyxis simply exquisite!
I guess that means I'm getting back into the Blackmagic ecosystem again. Brilliant!
I would like to see the Pyxis and C80 compared. I think they end up equivalent in price when you consider the need for a monitor, grip/handle, and a rear ND solution. With the pyxis (or any box camera) its similar to the red ecosystem in that the cost of the camera doesn't reflect the cost to make it functional.
Why does no one (including CVP) point out the fact it doesn't have de-squeeze preview options? I know it's not available for the 6k ff but if it's not available with their monitor you can purchase, you really can't use anamorphics. And with a 3:2 sized sensor, that is a crime!
Did I miss that part in the video? it's pretty long so I'm hoping I did :)
Hi tnx for super content❤.I think review Pyxis vs Canon r5c vs Red Komodo ideal 🔥
4:10 is that mega BITs per second or is that mega BYTEs per second? usually it's uppercase B for bytes and lowercase b for bits. Those numbers look like they should be bytes but I thought its worth checking.
00:09 is the handrig from dji？
Would love to see a comparison between Red Komodo / Komodo-X and PYXIS! Would your team ever swap to using primarily the PYXIS in-house?
awesome as always!!
would you please share the link for that Ruxely usb-c extension cable ? I can't find it
Thanks for watching, here you go - www.amazon.co.uk/Extension-Extender-L-Shaped-Thunderbolt-Extended/dp/B09G29YLP8
Am I crazy or is the Canon Cinema OS more robust than Blackmagic's? Though BM's is easier to navigate and read.
Footage looks great from it.
I feel like a future revision with slightly higher dynamic range (not that the current one is bad, but we have clearly seen that Blackmagic can do even better with their own sensors) and internal NDs would be my end-game dream camera. Sacrificing internal NDs is a hard pill to swallow for me coming from the near-perfect BMPCC6K Pro.
Согласен, 14 стопов у pyxis это отстой
HI Jake. I have a question. Is the fixed pattern noise still present at low light? Thanks Jake.
I want Rode to acquire Blackmagic and then put their revolution preamp with 32bit float into the camera.
Great thank you
I wonder if they'd do a half price MFT version?
if it aint broken don't fix it, my 6k and 4k bmc cameras work great and i don't look like a wannabe while getting equal to if not better results. TBC you showed yourself almost entirely in run n gun scenarios where the original form factor smokes this box, i'll save thousands, thanx for the review👍
This or the Z-Cam E2-F6?
compare image to the komodo X please!!
Not sure why but I cannot find any 120p in either Full HD or 4K?
I wonder why you changed settings to ARRI LogC4?
I tried the same testand it looks exactly identical if I keep it Film gen 5 and color space transform it to rec709
@cvp I had a genuine question, since I am planning to buy the Pyxis and a Digitalfoto Procine Steadicam rig together, I have been trying to figure out a solution to convert 12G SDI output from the Pyxis into a Steadicam rig which can only take a 3G SDI input, I definitely am not keen on blowing out any equipment so if there’s a solution then I would love to see that. I think part of a solution might be related to the viewfinder Type C port, but then I’ll have to put up 2 converters such as from type C to HDMI and then HDMI to 3G SDI converter I guess. I hope there’s an easier solution that I don’t know about yet. Thanks a ton in advance and thank you for a in-depth review as well. I had been eagerly waiting waiting for it.
Please make the in-depth review of the Canon R5 II
Hi, will you be reviewing the r5ii?
20:25 Does this tilta handle work on the Blackmagic Micro G2 for Run/stop (w/ USB splitter)?
what is the vmount accessory on the BMC6k ? 34:31
Pyxis vs FX3 vs C80 Please!
Compare it to the Komodo and the new C400
They saved up on display hinge so that they can upsell you for a $500 monitor. Though it works this way with almost every box camera.
great move for Blackmagic, Lumix give us the box format with the S1H mark ii
Wont happen lumix h cameras are hybrid cameras not box cameras.
@@andersistbesser They put out the BS1H that was box style.
What vnd filter did you use in 17:25? :)
What if we used the Blackmagic Video Assist as the monitor instead of the camera monitor ...and use it to control all the details etc....?
Did you try using Bluetooth on the Focus Pro for start/stop rather than usb-c?
We mention that in the video. Jake
How do I import a LUT into the camera?
Ok guys, lets be honest. I have been waiting for Pyxis for more than half a year, and I'm not alone. Many things have happened in the industry in the meantime and unfortunately, I`m already waiting for Fuji XM5, not Pyxis. Lest talk about prices and availability, ok? When (again) it Pyxis going to hit the marker? For how much? I'm an owner of EOS400D, BMPCC4K, EM10m3, OM1m1 and many m43 lenses. Many products have entered the market in the meantime - is BMD willing to correct their course? What are they going to do and when? I love the USB web camera functionality introduced recently in BMD camera firmware (my ATEM PRO ISO has been unplugged indefinitely). But what happens after that? Cheers!
Can you explain please more on Super 35 mode for this that a new system for me I am from Sony and want RAW so considering buying this camera and potential saving on super 35 lenses like Lawoa S35 Ranger
Why would one get the EVF over the monitor?
comparing it to the Komodo, it isnt wildly different, i feel like as a first box camera they did quite well
Please compare Zcam F6 mk2
Id love to see the Pyxis compared to the Zcam f6, komodo, komodo x and maybe the panasonic bgs1h
Ouch for the rolling shutter :(..
It is a pretty nice camera. But it annoys me that it can only shoot in BRAW. ProRes or maybe another ALL-I Codec would be nice to have, because you don´t need RAW for every project.
And hopefully we will get a Pro Version of the Pyxis with Internal ND.
I would like to see a comparison between the 12bit braw, 12bit Canon raw on the R5c
The battery limitations sucks but also makes sense. Sony can accurately read their battery life, and produce accurate runtimes. Looks like Blackmagic can’t talk to the Sony batteries and just reads voltage.
The issue with the pyxis is that it doesnt offer a compelling reason to upgrade to it even over my original pocket 6k. to many iterations that dont create substantial value increases.
The rolling shutter is absurd in 2024 lol