@@exozoid7883 One of the biggest problems is that anything that's free to play will be overrun with kids. That's great if you're a kid, but I'm a 62 year old adult, and that's just not the experience I'm looking for.
My #1 reason I hate going into Meta Horizon Worlds is definitely the screechers and screamers! You are almost immediately met by rude kids who ruin any chance of finding something fun to do. Really enjoyed your well based rant and you were on point with everything you said.
Horizon Worlds is a joke. Super Rumble is fun, but it’s the only decent game in Horizon Worlds. Sometimes it feels completely dead inside-I can’t believe how few people are playing. I gave my nephew my old Quest 2, and he plays all the time with his friends, but never in Horizon Worlds. It’s always Gorilla Tag, Rec Room, or combat shooters. All the kids think Horizon Worlds is super lame.
They screwed up having the developers build in their own engine in game. VRchat thrived because they use the Unity engine and everything looks so much better. They have alot of kids too but you can create private/ group instances
She couldn't have done this review at a worse point, meta has just in the past month allowed community members onto its creator program, all those badly made worlds are mostly from community members who have just in the past month gotten to grips with the new desktop creator applications/coding, what you are seeing is the communities first real proper go at making worlds. Those worlds like the car one and gun game have just come out in the past week, they are quite experimental. She should redo this review later this year when the creator competition has concluded and a bunch of new community made worlds are made.
I kept meaning to try the Metaverse out of curiosity but as a grown man, it just feels like heading to a childrens playground. You could actually be on to something with Lone Echo etc. Put in a few well made free to play games like Echo Arena just to get people visiting the Metaverse regularly. The more people visit, the bigger chance they start dropping money on clothing etc. Also from what i've seen on youtube, the adult areas tend to just look like bars/night clubs with no games to actually break the ice with. But yeah, really well put together video that i dont think many will disagree with.
the best recommendation i could give anyone is to borrow your younger cousin/nephew's headset to TRY this whole meta VR experience first. ironically, i borrowed my father in-law's quest 2 and was consistently turned away by the amount of kids playing population zero (one of the only free FPS available on the headset) and how few experiences were actually for the adults who can afford these headsets. i literally wouldn't spend any amount on one now, knowing that it's the equivalent of some leapfrog games but in VR. great video!! you make excellent points which i don't hear anyone else mentioning, subbed, liked & saw this on my feed- i hope the algorithm is finally working for you!!!!!
I feel the same way. They are spending billions on this? Who is advising these people its so obvious! Thanks for venting for those of us feeling the same frustrations.
I'm a massive fan of what they've done for VR generally speaking, but their push to focus on Horizon Worlds is absolutely fucking ridiculous. When I use my headset, I wanna easily be able to access my games, and the store, because I have NO intention of ever using Horizon.
The worlds I go into are just Bobber Bay and the new add on to it, Gator Grotto. Those two are cool just for chilling out and fishing. I agree most of the other games are poorly done. They need to have much better tutorials on how to create in the game. You would think that they would have tons of professionals making worlds for them at that price ( Spending billions of dollars)
Great video! Its interesting to see the 'nintendo mii' avatars with legs now (funnily enough, nintendo made these avatars in 2006 and they had legs then too). I own a Quest 2, 3, and pro. My interaction with the 'metaverse' is about 5 seconds when I boot up the headset... I just click on Virtual Desktop! Once in on my PC I turn on SteamVR, put down the meta controllers, and pick up Valve Knuckles and put on my vibe 3.0 body trackers. Then I turn on VRChat and boom, one of the best social VR experiences you can ever have, and its all community built. No 15 billion dollars needed. Yes this hardware is expensive, but its not out of reach if you want it bad enough.
Agreed. Horizon finally has **SOME** fun things to do, but the biggest problem is; is that there are soooooo many "squeakers" that make the culture of the platform is only a little less awful than Gorilla Tag. I'm a Gen-Xer and I very much do not want to talk to random children, nor do I think their parents would want them to either. VRChat, Banter, Riff XR, and Resonite are all better Social VR Metaverse platforms.
I disagree. Horizon Worlds is very basic right now probably because VR is still in it's infancy, been that VR only really went kinda mainstream and became more accessible with the Quest 2 in 2020 due to it's lower cost to entry and not needing a beefy PC and lots of wires to run like some of the popular VR headsets around that time as well as people spending more time at home. While the Meta Quest headsets are pretty cool and i love my Meta quest 3 I think they still lack widespread appeal due to them costing as much as a home console for what I suspect most consumers would see as a novelty gimmick device to pull out when friends are over so people likely don't see much value in purchasing one right now. For those reasons I would say that's the reason you only ever really see kids in Horizons Worlds and not many adults. That coupled with the fact horizon worlds only released in most countries July of this year (2024) and a handful in 2022 it's not had much time to properly mature yet and with probably the whole VR market been still kinda niche honestly I think that's why it's so basic right now. However I do see a lot of potential in Horizons as hopefully VR takes off and more people get into the Meta Quest ecosphere. So I don't think Meta Horizons should be killed off just yet as honestly it's barely had the chance to live. However you are 100% correct about the jank, squeakers and how awkward it is just talking to a random avatar in this virtual space I have genuine anxiety talking in Horizons like I don't get irl. Maybe I'm been optimistic and I'm wrong but I kinda see a lot of this as teething issues as again VR still is relatively new and it's still kinda niche all things considered.
I think your missing the point of Horizons for Meta, they are in to VR for the long haul and putting in money that they want to come back to them in the next 10 years. What Horizons looks like today will have very little to what it looks like years from now, Meta is going to have an online world they are working on constantly and maybe 5 years from now it will be something, but it won't be anything like what we see today. Asking why they don't let it die? They are a social networking company, they biggest in the world, I don't think they will abandon Horizons yet. They do not even have to worry about what Horizons looks like right now, they are building a framework that allows them to upgrade the models underneath quickly they have done it multiple times already and it may get more amazing when they bring something like codec avatars to Horizons 5 years from now. But seriously! I like you though, and agree right now it is just a mess.
Your camera is a little jank. The setup is not bad and your audio is good but your camera could use an upgrade. Maybe even try filming with your phone and have a look at trying different editing techniques or different software
Wow the title was deceptive. I thought this was gonna be an interesting video. In my recommendeds. Nope. It wasnt. Princess? Nope. Ideas for future videos? I was gonna suggest a switch to radio but you waffle on too much. Good luck getting to a thousand subs. Seeya 👋
i have zero intention of going into meta horizon, currently playing riven and experimenting with a DJ app, as for VR worlds we don’t have the computing power to create anything meaningful, just got into VR a couple of weeks ago
You mention that Horizon Worlds isn't a good game. I would hesitate to even call it a game in the first place, because i see it more as a social platform than anything else, like VRChat. Yes, technically, they do fit the definition of games, but they don't have any core gameplay loop. Horizon Worlds is like Roblox, not really a game itself, but... I guess more of a hub than anything else.
Spot on. I appreciate that Meta is keeping VR afloat, but Horizon is a flop.
i just tried it after 2 years its good for social but not good for games
@@exozoid7883 One of the biggest problems is that anything that's free to play will be overrun with kids. That's great if you're a kid, but I'm a 62 year old adult, and that's just not the experience I'm looking for.
My #1 reason I hate going into Meta Horizon Worlds is definitely the screechers and screamers! You are almost immediately met by rude kids who ruin any chance of finding something fun to do. Really enjoyed your well based rant and you were on point with everything you said.
So glad to hear you enjoyed it, thank you so much for your comment!!
metaverse is the literal definition of the sunk cost fallacy
Horizon Worlds is a joke. Super Rumble is fun, but it’s the only decent game in Horizon Worlds. Sometimes it feels completely dead inside-I can’t believe how few people are playing. I gave my nephew my old Quest 2, and he plays all the time with his friends, but never in Horizon Worlds. It’s always Gorilla Tag, Rec Room, or combat shooters. All the kids think Horizon Worlds is super lame.
They screwed up having the developers build in their own engine in game. VRchat thrived because they use the Unity engine and everything looks so much better. They have alot of kids too but you can create private/ group instances
She couldn't have done this review at a worse point, meta has just in the past month allowed community members onto its creator program, all those badly made worlds are mostly from community members who have just in the past month gotten to grips with the new desktop creator applications/coding, what you are seeing is the communities first real proper go at making worlds. Those worlds like the car one and gun game have just come out in the past week, they are quite experimental.
She should redo this review later this year when the creator competition has concluded and a bunch of new community made worlds are made.
@@Gyandhi-mx3tw It doesnt change the fact that they make you create within their engine and not within an actual game engine like Unity.
@@Groovingforwardatx Yeah that would be nice
I kept meaning to try the Metaverse out of curiosity but as a grown man, it just feels like heading to a childrens playground. You could actually be on to something with Lone Echo etc. Put in a few well made free to play games like Echo Arena just to get people visiting the Metaverse regularly. The more people visit, the bigger chance they start dropping money on clothing etc. Also from what i've seen on youtube, the adult areas tend to just look like bars/night clubs with no games to actually break the ice with. But yeah, really well put together video that i dont think many will disagree with.
Thank you so much for taking the time to share all that, I'm glad you enjoyed the video!!
the best recommendation i could give anyone is to borrow your younger cousin/nephew's headset to TRY this whole meta VR experience first. ironically, i borrowed my father in-law's quest 2 and was consistently turned away by the amount of kids playing population zero (one of the only free FPS available on the headset) and how few experiences were actually for the adults who can afford these headsets. i literally wouldn't spend any amount on one now, knowing that it's the equivalent of some leapfrog games but in VR. great video!! you make excellent points which i don't hear anyone else mentioning, subbed, liked & saw this on my feed- i hope the algorithm is finally working for you!!!!!
They only just launched Horizon Worlds outside the US. So I don't get why anyone thinks something failed if it's barely been launched.
The massive increase in sales of vr headsets may change this
Preach it.
I feel the same way. They are spending billions on this? Who is advising these people its so obvious! Thanks for venting for those of us feeling the same frustrations.
Not spending billions on it directly, hard to say how much is actually invested but its definitely a lot
So glad to hear you enjoyed the video!!
I'm a massive fan of what they've done for VR generally speaking, but their push to focus on Horizon Worlds is absolutely fucking ridiculous. When I use my headset, I wanna easily be able to access my games, and the store, because I have NO intention of ever using Horizon.
The worlds I go into are just Bobber Bay and the new add on to it, Gator Grotto. Those two are cool just for chilling out and fishing. I agree most of the other games are poorly done. They need to have much better tutorials on how to create in the game. You would think that they would have tons of professionals making worlds for them at that price ( Spending billions of dollars)
Great video! Its interesting to see the 'nintendo mii' avatars with legs now (funnily enough, nintendo made these avatars in 2006 and they had legs then too).
I own a Quest 2, 3, and pro. My interaction with the 'metaverse' is about 5 seconds when I boot up the headset... I just click on Virtual Desktop! Once in on my PC I turn on SteamVR, put down the meta controllers, and pick up Valve Knuckles and put on my vibe 3.0 body trackers. Then I turn on VRChat and boom, one of the best social VR experiences you can ever have, and its all community built. No 15 billion dollars needed.
Yes this hardware is expensive, but its not out of reach if you want it bad enough.
”All community built ”? VRChat is VC backed with $95 million in funding.
@Niclasj79 I'm talking about worlds and avatars. Also imagine if VRC just got one of those Billions being wasted away.
Agreed.
Horizon finally has **SOME** fun things to do, but the biggest problem is; is that there are soooooo many "squeakers" that make the culture of the platform is only a little less awful than Gorilla Tag. I'm a Gen-Xer and I very much do not want to talk to random children, nor do I think their parents would want them to either.
VRChat, Banter, Riff XR, and Resonite are all better Social VR Metaverse platforms.
Super Rumble is the only thing I play on Horizon Worlds. Pretty fun but only one map. They already made horizon worlds. It's called Rec Room.
I disagree.
Horizon Worlds is very basic right now probably because VR is still in it's infancy, been that VR only really went kinda mainstream and became more accessible with the Quest 2 in 2020 due to it's lower cost to entry and not needing a beefy PC and lots of wires to run like some of the popular VR headsets around that time as well as people spending more time at home.
While the Meta Quest headsets are pretty cool and i love my Meta quest 3 I think they still lack widespread appeal due to them costing as much as a home console for what I suspect most consumers would see as a novelty gimmick device to pull out when friends are over so people likely don't see much value in purchasing one right now.
For those reasons I would say that's the reason you only ever really see kids in Horizons Worlds and not many adults.
That coupled with the fact horizon worlds only released in most countries July of this year (2024) and a handful in 2022 it's not had much time to properly mature yet and with probably the whole VR market been still kinda niche honestly I think that's why it's so basic right now.
However I do see a lot of potential in Horizons as hopefully VR takes off and more people get into the Meta Quest ecosphere.
So I don't think Meta Horizons should be killed off just yet as honestly it's barely had the chance to live.
However you are 100% correct about the jank, squeakers and how awkward it is just talking to a random avatar in this virtual space I have genuine anxiety talking in Horizons like I don't get irl.
Maybe I'm been optimistic and I'm wrong but I kinda see a lot of this as teething issues as again VR still is relatively new and it's still kinda niche all things considered.
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Meta not a failure. Horizon worlds is a failure tho and I’m happy about that
I think your missing the point of Horizons for Meta, they are in to VR for the long haul and putting in money that they want to come back to them in the next 10 years. What Horizons looks like today will have very little to what it looks like years from now, Meta is going to have an online world they are working on constantly and maybe 5 years from now it will be something, but it won't be anything like what we see today. Asking why they don't let it die? They are a social networking company, they biggest in the world, I don't think they will abandon Horizons yet. They do not even have to worry about what Horizons looks like right now, they are building a framework that allows them to upgrade the models underneath quickly they have done it multiple times already and it may get more amazing when they bring something like codec avatars to Horizons 5 years from now. But seriously! I like you though, and agree right now it is just a mess.
i love it
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Your camera is a little jank. The setup is not bad and your audio is good but your camera could use an upgrade. Maybe even try filming with your phone and have a look at trying different editing techniques or different software
Thanks for the advice, I'm still figuring out my setup!
@@SaiyanPrincessXO you can try different techniques and I will subscribe. And comment on how the video looks to me and what seems to work better
I really appreciate that!! 🙏
Wow the title was deceptive. I thought this was gonna be an interesting video. In my recommendeds. Nope. It wasnt. Princess? Nope. Ideas for future videos? I was gonna suggest a switch to radio but you waffle on too much. Good luck getting to a thousand subs. Seeya 👋
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Have a great day friend!! 😊
There is a PuNk rOcK world where you can mosh called "The Roost". You mosh with animated characters! Hardcore music playing.
I haven't test the Metaverse yet. I didn't even realise it was there xD
i have zero intention of going into meta horizon, currently playing riven and experimenting with a DJ app, as for VR worlds we don’t have the computing power to create anything meaningful, just got into VR a couple of weeks ago
You mention that Horizon Worlds isn't a good game. I would hesitate to even call it a game in the first place, because i see it more as a social platform than anything else, like VRChat. Yes, technically, they do fit the definition of games, but they don't have any core gameplay loop. Horizon Worlds is like Roblox, not really a game itself, but... I guess more of a hub than anything else.
well you're actually wrong because the stock price says otherwise
Meta horizon sucks rec room is better