I grew up in Heptonstall. I knew Ted's parents, who lived just outside the village, and I remember seeing Ted & Sylvia when they visited. I find it hard to enter that graveyard now because too many people I knew are there. One of my best friends is right next to Sylvia, a former girlfriend of who I was very fond has a memorial stone, and there are many others that I remember, their faces clear in my mind when I read their names.
This is the problem with fandoms, they fail to understand, they do not know their favourite artists personally and it is a gross intrusion to act against the wishes of the family. Whatever your own personal feelings, none of us knew Sylvia and we were not privy to her relationship with her husband or her feelings toward him, so stay off the grave and respect her child.
I would suggest these people take a course devoted to her work, and course study will naturally include things like her journals and other biographical texts about Sylvia. And becoming an adult also helps you to have a different perspective on her and their relationship. The best you can say for them was, it was a complicated time and they were complicated people.
@ oh, I do agree with you about that. Absolutely no dispute there. I think her parents should’ve fought him in court for her work. I merely suggested that interested people should take a course on her and get familiar with what they can find out about her and come to understand the incredible loss for literature. I just wonder what he was trying to hide. I think he was a narcissist and he wanted to look like a long suffering husband to their children, and what was in those poems and stories were clues to the truth.
Whatever your thoughts on their relationship, it doesn't give anyone the right to vandalise a grave. The fact it's also against the wishes of their actual daughter is even worse.
Like I wouldn't ( no matter how much I hate ISLAM ) I wàs a gravedigger and even though I don't believe in ghosts I wouldn't smash the gravestones I believe in karma
@orionxtc1119 before I worked with my dad gravedigging he went into work one day after Halloween and the devil worshippers had taken a body from a common / paupers grave and cut head off and placed it in a chalk circle or whatever they do
Ted Hughes confirmed he wrote the poem Daffodils about Sylvia Plath which was published in his poetry book Birthday Letters in 1997. He also said it would be his only comment on the matter of Sylvia and her death. It’s a wonderful poem celebrating Sylvia. It shows his beautiful command of the English language and why Ted was Poet Laureate for many years.
Passion and anger are but separated by a hair....... in the end this has nothing to do with public opinion and everything to do with a private family burial. Sylvia's husband was neither the first, nor the last man to have an affair, nor was Sylvia the first poet to throw off her mortal coil by her own hand. All of that aside, nothing explains away the defacement of a private monument paid for with private funds, period.
Trouble is that he destroyed work that would have been embraced by her readers. He shouldn't have let everyone know he destroyed unpublished work. No, this is on the family, period.
Not YOUR family and therefore by default not YOUR or ANYONE else's place to destroy something that doesn't belong to you... and while we're on the topic of reality, and other things that don't belong to you... Sylvia's poems aren't yours! They were never written "for you"... Christ Jesus! With entitlement from fans such as yourself, it really is no wonder she gassed herself.
@@annabellelee4535 Did she leave her possessions or works to him? If so it was his right to keep or destroy. None of our business. We didn’t own her or her works.
@@Kanga-53 It doesn't matter, it was a crime against literature to destroy her works. When he bragged about destroying unpublished works by a renowned poet, he became hated and justifiably so. Did you know his second wife also took her own life? He deserves condemnation.
That was very interesting and has allowed me to see somewhere I will never have the opportunity to visit. Thank you for the upload. Off to do some reading about Sylvia Plath!
If you're going to read her poetry I would suggest "The Colossus". I never understood why "Ariel" was the famous one. Maybe people just prefer inscrutable puzzles to vivid and powerful pictures, I don't know.
Wow … how have I missed Heptonstall. I am living in Beverley now but grew up in Bradford. I have links to so many places around there. This is amazing. Those churches are stunning. I am due over Keighley soon to take a friend for an afternoon tea …. Guess where I am going with her now. I wont be tight and give her a packed lunch but we can visit the churches as well . Thank you for sharing … this has been such a gem to see.
I been there with my mum in the late 90s on one of our ‘walking holidays’ mums been gone 5 years now so seeing to is popped up just bought back some memories. Thank you for the video
You know, the old family walking holidays checking out grave stones 😂 I was into roller skating at that time and most of the holidays I was left at the indoor skatepark in Wakefield. Best times!! Just thought to add that :)
Ted Hughes left her and went to live with his mistress when Sylvia was probably suffering from post-natal depression. She was struggling alone in a flat without central heating - remember she was American - in England's coldest winter for 100 years, looking after two children under the age of two and having recently miscarried. She knew almost no-one in London.
I hate to be the one to point this out but Sylvia Plath had serious mental health issues long before any of the events you mention. Hughes is not a particularly sympathetic character but neither was Plath. She had made multiple attempts to end her own life, including before she met Hughes. Her son suffered the same fate (as did the woman Hughes left Plath for). Its important not to take sides in this because no-one really knows what happened. My first wife suffered from bipolar disorder (the serious type with psychotic and manic episodes) and, while I managed to get her through that safely and on to a better life, the toll was serious and the dramas and things I experienced you would find hard to believe could actually happen. The world is not a tidy place.
Was that 1962? I was chatting to an elderly lady in Liverpool about that winter and she said that no matter how much coal she put on the fire she couldn’t warm the house up and her kids had hot water bottles wrapped up in their clothes. Not central heating in those days
First time viewer, just subscribed. Hope you can show more places like this. We don't have these kinds of places in Australia as it was only settled by English back in the late 1700s. I really love old grave yards especially those that were around the churches. Ty for this story, and yeah I think people should mind their own business! Defacing a grave stone is just disgusting.
There are some very weird atmospheres round there. Jimmy So-vile had his caravan right next door; in nearby Cragg Vale; next to the Hinchcliffe arms. Even more weirdly that demon used to masquerade as a priest giving Sunday sermons in the parish church. Even Stephen King couldn't make this shit up; but it is true. Matt Parker has done a great vid about this on his Dark Side of the Moor youtube channel including a very creepy story about a missing child. Heptonstall itself is a very beautiful place; described by fellow Blackburner Alfred Wainwright as 'an intact Elizabethan Village'.
Suicide can be a genetic tendency as are other diseases. Ronald Rolheiser wrote a great book on the subject. It certainly seems to have been inherited in Hemingway’s family and both Sylvia Plath and her son committed suicide. Thank you for this video.
In the Omen, a metal spire is struck by lightning and impales Patrick Troughton. I realise the circumstances are very different, but Savile's elaborate and presumably extremely expensive gravestone was removed entirely by his family, not because of vandalism but through shame
Yes and weirdly; So-vile had his caravan right next door; in nearby Cragg Vale; next to the Hinchcliffe arms. Even more weirdly that demon used to masquerade as a priest giving Sunday sermons in the parish church. Even Stephen King couldn't make this shit up; but it is true. Matt Parker has done a great vid about this on Dark Side of the Moor youtube channel including a very creepy story about a missing child.
I don't think they are fallen, I think they are meant to be like that. I'm always surprised to see gravestones on the path around my local cathedral. Its like the person is forcing you to notice them
I took pictures of Sylvia's resting place when I visited her site many years a go...I did not know about where she was buried until a friend of mine suggested we go and pay our respects as it's only two bus rides away...so we did...
I found my old Galaxy note 3 mobile but it has no sim card or battery...my recollection of Sylvia's grave I can't remember, but it must have been ok otherwise I would have remembered...sorry I can't be more helpful buddy...
Just a random comment, Sylvia Plath's mother was Austrian, and her father, A German who immigrated to the USA, was an entomologist and wrote a book about bumblebees.
I was raised that whatever is going on in someone's relationship is none of my business unless there's an abuse type situation. It's between a man and their woman..period
Nice Triumph hoodie! I have a 78 export bonnie I've had for 40yrs. Also, a few yrs ago our local left footer church lost one of it's tower spikes. It went through a roof. They stood it on the ground like that one. Nice channel. Respects from Durham.
Sadly, I think that Sylvia Plath Hughes' suicide was one of two suicides in Mr. Hughes personal life as a lover also completed as did his son.after his father's death. May they all now rest in peace. As for the video in general, I found it very inteŕesting despite it's short length and the young chap's frequent modesty about being unsure of some details, making him unwilling to comment, was most refreshing. As for the "big red nose" comments, when you are a handsone guy like him, it is not even noticable! Blessings and peace and Happy New Year from North Yorkshire, sir!
Sad she took her own life by carbon monoxide after a 6 month separation and assia the other woman died in exactly the same manner in 1969 by her own hand tragic for both women
Agreement with, beautiful old church. We bring our norms/rights&wrongs with us wherever we go. On visiting Port Arthur Tasmania, I went on a tour of a small island where burials occurred. There are around a dozen marked graves; the rest of the island is made of the burials of hundreds /thousands ???? of the convicts (no coffins they just got a shallow planting). There was no feeling of “the bogles and ghaisties are coming to get me”, rather it was “I am deliberately being disrespectful “
Freda is right. In any case, it is believed that Sylvia took steps to end her life, in the expectation that a visitor would arrive to save her. That visitor missed their train.
What people fail to realise is that you can not change history. She was indisputably married to Ted Hughes and, unless you're in possession of a time machine, nothing can ever change that. Vandalising part of Sylvia's legal name on her gravestone is just pathetic.
There is a grave in West Wycombe (Bucks) churchyard of a woman who died after being caught in a mantrap and bleeding to death. The local aristo "Dashwood" resisted the wording on the stone but finally agreed to "Died as a Result of the Game Laws". This is not anecdotal, I've visited the grave. Jack, the Japan Alps Brit
@@Thenogomogo-zo3un While 666 is called the "number of the beast" in most manuscripts of Revelation 13:18, a fragment of the papyrus 115 gives the number as 616.
He left her for another woman. He has no rights anymore at that point. The daughter is not a reliable source for her father’s position here. That he put his name on the grave, after he left her, tells me everything I need to know.
I would never deface a gravestone but I agree Ted Hughes should have no say. He treated Assia Wevill the same way, the guy had no business forming attachments with women that he knew were already mentally vulnerable. He was even with the other woman the night Sylvia died and had the nerve to write a poem about it.
It is not your business. Plath is dead, so we cannot ask her opinion. So it is up to her daughter as to whether the name "Hughes" appears on her gravestone or not.
@@matthewcoombs3282 Ted beat Plath and caused her to miscarry. His daughter grew up with her father, not her mother so of course she wants his name on her gravestone. I do not!!! agree with her daughter. Sylvia doesn't need his hateful name when she made a name in her own right. Sylvia Plath's legal name was just that: Sylvia Plath. Fin.
Heptonstall is a weird and beautiful place. Last time I was there, there seemed to be a practice of digging several graves at once in the graveyard, and covering them with metal sheets until they were needed. (I assumed it was because the village is remote, the ground is rocky, and they needed to "import" a mechanical digger from somewhere else.)
What an interesting approach communicating such important heritage! Humble and respectful, yet definitive. I subscribed very quickly indeed. Well done, you’re doing a great job. Kudos
Generally I would not be approving of defacement, but given the circumstances (Hughes having clocked up two women who had done the same) then yes, it seems somewhat insulting to give him billing. Don't really care that "her legal name" was Hughes, her professional name was Plath. As for the family, both children were toddlers when Sylvia killed herself. The only thing I have seen in graveyards that was more insulting, was having the family annihilator buried right next to all his victims.
You put 'legal name' in inverted commas to make it sound less significant than it is - but it's very much more important than her 'professional name'. She was known as Sylvia Plath to the strangers who read her poems. She was known as Sylvia Hughes to her friends and family. It was her real name, her private name, the name of the real person, which Plath was the name of the poetic persona she adopted. The persona exists only on the page and is unaffected by the real person's death. Sylvia Plath isn't buried there. Sylvia Hughes is.
Your approval or otherwise is completely irrelevant!! Absolutely no one outside of direct descendants has any right whatsoever to make changes to a headstone. You can make whatever statement you feel disposed to on your own headstone. The minding of ones own business is definitely a lost art and the world is a much poorer place for it.
I noticed the same in Knaresborough. A lot of the gravestones were now used as paving stones. I imagine there were so many people buried there, they had to do it that way. Soft soled shoes would be in order I think. Canadian here.
I need to get over to Knaresborough at some point! I guess it may have been common practice back then. It's also the same in nearby Haworth and was one of the contributing factors to their water contamination.
Two things, when talking about suicide the verb is hanged not hung. The angst round Sylvia is also to do with another female, and her daughter, Ted was involved with. You need to do your research.😢
Why did you say it sounded sinister? Probably either a church service, or perhaps the organist and choir at practice. Thank you for the tour, looks a lovely place.
i am surprised they permitted her to be buried in a churchyard. suicides traditionally were not allowed. her family wrote what they wrote, they have not changed it, nobody else has the right to an opinion
That's an historical practice. My two great uncles were suicides, the family had no problems burying them in a church yard. *I just looked it up, the practice stopped in 1882
@@VMM34 much earlier date than i thought, im a century out of date, though not burying suicides was a still traditional thing when i was little, i overheard some hushed conversations about it. i suppose some family's stuck to the tradition longer, some moved on, i am glad your family got to morn your great uncles the way they saw fit. i don't see what happens to the shell as important, once the person has left it, but the memories shared are
@gerrimilner9448 Oh I see, that's really interesting. I wonder if the vicar of the church in your area was aged and insisted on sticking to the old rules? My great uncles were buried in the mid 1950s. They were both farmers and I've only just learned that chemicals in farming could lead to mental health issues and suicides, so perhaps that's what happened. The family spoke little of it and now they've all passed away so I can't ask them. Btw, I wonder how many crossroads we pass daily that have bodies buried beneath. It's sad to think about. Thanks for replying 👍🏼
@@VMM34 that conversation was my grandparents and some other relatives in the early 80's i was not 10 yet. i think it was mostly my Grandparents (born 1901 & 1920). i do not know what the vicar thought, though i dont think he was there
Just think. There is a good possibility that the grave of the person known to history as Jack The Ripper is somewhere in London in a cemetery like this.
Sylvia, rest in peace. Her two children died before their time too, and I hope they're resting in peace as well. I wonder if a sign were posted at the cemetery to not desecrate the markers, and maybe install a camera so that people can receive a huge fine, which would pay for repairs. Here lies a literary genius, and people can't just leave well enough alone. A camera installed surreptitiously, along with a written warning.
At the end of the day, it is a family's gravestone and anyone who wants to impose their views on that is somewhat up their own bottom. No matter what rights or wrongs, disrespecting the family who lost a loved one is just a disrespectful person in general.
Ridiculous how unconnected people love to feel outrage on behalf of others. If readers have strong feelings about Sylvia's & Ted's relations it's definitely not their place to deface what in effect is a strangers grave! These vandals should pay their respects if that's why they are there & if they can't do that peacefully then they shouldn't visit. Sylvia Plath RIP. PS/ After watching this video I was the 666th thumbs up, out of interest!
Read a Ted Hughes poem like Hawk Roosting and ask yourself how human, how empathic or compassionate (or just how decent) the man was who wrote it. The poem celebrates the majestic and predatory nature of a 'king-animal' (a predator not prey to any other creature) as something natural, necessary and entirely reasonable or sensible. Hughes was an emotional fascist and Plath must have suffered terribly at his hands.
. No matter what you think about it you have no right to criminally damage/desecrate a headstone. Most suicides are buried in the north side of a cemetery if allowed to at all
Canada's most controversial gravestone belonged to the Black Donnellys. The original stone correctly asserted the 4 family members in the grave had been murdered. The members of the mob who murdered them still lived in town and did not like the use of the term. Also because of the fame of the murders, people would come to chip off pieces of the gravestone to keep as souvenirs, or to deface it. The original stone was taken down and hidden (it's still missing) and a far more conventional stone was put in its place. People still chip off pieces of it though.
Unscientific theory: narcissists are MORE likely to lean into fandoms. If they identify enough with a character, even an author, it's vicarious validation.
I find Hughes's explanation odd. He left her. Why does he care if the last name on the grave is her maiden name? Most people know her as the poet Sylvia Plath, not Hughes. What were Sylvia's wishes? Does anyone know? Many women revert to their maiden names after a divorce.
I'm not sure of any documented last wishes of hers, but it's an interesting question as well as why she was buried in England rather than back home in Boston. Someone out there may know more.
@@northernintrovert Just the logistics of transporting the body back in those days, it was not common to be done by aircraft (except by the military, they had cargo planes). In recent decades a bit more common than it was to transport remains.
It does feel wrong to walk on a grave but the grave stones no longer mark the grave site, although bodies may have been buried in the ground underneath , stones are often recovered ,and r e-laid when graves collapse
Its like the furore about Charles and Diana. She was no picnic either but pretty high maintenance. Sylvia also had a history of mental illness. My father did too and he was not easy to live with either tho a good soul. As for destroying some of theunpublished work, Charlotte Bronte destroyed Emily’s unpublished work too.
I grew up in Heptonstall. I knew Ted's parents, who lived just outside the village, and I remember seeing Ted & Sylvia when they visited.
I find it hard to enter that graveyard now because too many people I knew are there. One of my best friends is right next to Sylvia, a former girlfriend of who I was very fond has a memorial stone, and there are many others that I remember, their faces clear in my mind when I read their names.
Yea it hits hard when you find out that a girl that you loved died. The memories become even more precious.
This is the problem with fandoms, they fail to understand, they do not know their favourite artists personally and it is a gross intrusion to act against the wishes of the family. Whatever your own personal feelings, none of us knew Sylvia and we were not privy to her relationship with her husband or her feelings toward him, so stay off the grave and respect her child.
He destroyed a renowned poet's unpublished works. He's a total Ahole.
I would suggest these people take a course devoted to her work, and course study will naturally include things like her journals and other biographical texts about Sylvia. And becoming an adult also helps you to have a different perspective on her and their relationship. The best you can say for them was, it was a complicated time and they were complicated people.
@@timefoolery I doubt this would have happened if the husband hadn't destroyed her unpublished works. That really was a cultural crime.
@ oh, I do agree with you about that. Absolutely no dispute there. I think her parents should’ve fought him in court for her work. I merely suggested that interested people should take a course on her and get familiar with what they can find out about her and come to understand the incredible loss for literature. I just wonder what he was trying to hide. I think he was a narcissist and he wanted to look like a long suffering husband to their children, and what was in those poems and stories were clues to the truth.
@@timefoolery I love her work so I have no sympathy for a ignoramus who deprived me and the world of her work.
Whatever your thoughts on their relationship, it doesn't give anyone the right to vandalise a grave. The fact it's also against the wishes of their actual daughter is even worse.
Like I wouldn't ( no matter how much I hate ISLAM ) I wàs a gravedigger and even though I don't believe in ghosts I wouldn't smash the gravestones I believe in karma
Well, her husband committed a crime against art when he destroyed her unpublished works. He's lucky someone didn't scrape off his face in real life.
Tampering with a grave is evil
@orionxtc1119 no it's disrespectful and criminal. Burning your betrayed wife's work is closer to evil.
@orionxtc1119 before I worked with my dad gravedigging he went into work one day after Halloween and the devil worshippers had taken a body from a common / paupers grave and cut head off and placed it in a chalk circle or whatever they do
Ted Hughes confirmed he wrote the poem Daffodils about Sylvia Plath which was published in his poetry book Birthday Letters in 1997. He also said it would be his only comment on the matter of Sylvia and her death. It’s a wonderful poem celebrating Sylvia. It shows his beautiful command of the English language and why Ted was Poet Laureate for many years.
Love your videos !!! You speak simply, calmy and ... humbly. Cheers from Normandy, France.
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What a stunning old church. I wouldn't mind resting there. Hope Sylvia is at peace.
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Passion and anger are but separated by a hair....... in the end this has nothing to do with public opinion and everything to do with a private family burial. Sylvia's husband was neither the first, nor the last man to have an affair, nor was Sylvia the first poet to throw off her mortal coil by her own hand. All of that aside, nothing explains away the defacement of a private monument paid for with private funds, period.
Trouble is that he destroyed work that would have been embraced by her readers. He shouldn't have let everyone know he destroyed unpublished work. No, this is on the family, period.
Not YOUR family and therefore by default not YOUR or ANYONE else's place to destroy something that doesn't belong to you... and while we're on the topic of reality, and other things that don't belong to you... Sylvia's poems aren't yours! They were never written "for you"... Christ Jesus! With entitlement from fans such as yourself, it really is no wonder she gassed herself.
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Did she leave her possessions or works to him? If so it was his right to keep or destroy. None of our business. We didn’t own her or her works.
@@Kanga-53 It doesn't matter, it was a crime against literature to destroy her works. When he bragged about destroying unpublished works by a renowned poet, he became hated and justifiably so. Did you know his second wife also took her own life? He deserves condemnation.
He married weak women. So what? And the world is full of unpublished poetry. Are you an agent?
That was very interesting and has allowed me to see somewhere I will never have the opportunity to visit. Thank you for the upload. Off to do some reading about Sylvia Plath!
If you're going to read her poetry I would suggest "The Colossus". I never understood why "Ariel" was the famous one. Maybe people just prefer inscrutable puzzles to vivid and powerful pictures, I don't know.
WOW WHAT A GORGEOUS CEMETERY LOVED YOUR STORIES PLEASE MAKE MORE OF THEM 🙏🌹
Wow … how have I missed Heptonstall. I am living in Beverley now but grew up in Bradford. I have links to so many places around there. This is amazing. Those churches are stunning. I am due over Keighley soon to take a friend for an afternoon tea …. Guess where I am going with her now. I wont be tight and give her a packed lunch but we can visit the churches as well . Thank you for sharing … this has been such a gem to see.
I been there with my mum in the late 90s on one of our ‘walking holidays’ mums been gone 5 years now so seeing to is popped up just bought back some memories. Thank you for the video
You know, the old family walking holidays checking out grave stones 😂
I was into roller skating at that time and most of the holidays I was left at the indoor skatepark in Wakefield. Best times!! Just thought to add that :)
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Ted Hughes left her and went to live with his mistress when Sylvia was probably suffering from post-natal depression. She was struggling alone in a flat without central heating - remember she was American - in England's coldest winter for 100 years, looking after two children under the age of two and having recently miscarried. She knew almost no-one in London.
How cruel 😢
I hate to be the one to point this out but Sylvia Plath had serious mental health issues long before any of the events you mention. Hughes is not a particularly sympathetic character but neither was Plath. She had made multiple attempts to end her own life, including before she met Hughes. Her son suffered the same fate (as did the woman Hughes left Plath for). Its important not to take sides in this because no-one really knows what happened.
My first wife suffered from bipolar disorder (the serious type with psychotic and manic episodes) and, while I managed to get her through that safely and on to a better life, the toll was serious and the dramas and things I experienced you would find hard to believe could actually happen. The world is not a tidy place.
Was that 1962? I was chatting to an elderly lady in Liverpool about that winter and she said that no matter how much coal she put on the fire she couldn’t warm the house up and her kids had hot water bottles wrapped up in their clothes. Not central heating in those days
@user-lv5bt3nt3r he was abusive and it shows .
First time viewer, just subscribed. Hope you can show more places like this. We don't have these kinds of places in Australia as it was only settled by English back in the late 1700s. I really love old grave yards especially those that were around the churches. Ty for this story, and yeah I think people should mind their own business! Defacing a grave stone is just disgusting.
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Your voice is very soothing. I think I’ll get out my knitting, a lovely pace while learning.
Thank you 😁 that sounds relaxing.
There are some very weird atmospheres round there. Jimmy So-vile had his caravan right next door; in nearby Cragg Vale; next to the Hinchcliffe arms. Even more weirdly that demon used to masquerade as a priest giving Sunday sermons in the parish church. Even Stephen King couldn't make this shit up; but it is true. Matt Parker has done a great vid about this on his Dark Side of the Moor youtube channel including a very creepy story about a missing child. Heptonstall itself is a very beautiful place; described by fellow Blackburner Alfred Wainwright as 'an intact Elizabethan Village'.
Correction: the presenter of the channel The Dark Side of the Moor is Matt Parks. Not Matt Parker who has a YT channel standupmaths.
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Suicide can be a genetic tendency as are other diseases. Ronald Rolheiser wrote a great book on the subject. It certainly seems to have been inherited in Hemingway’s family and both Sylvia Plath and her son committed suicide. Thank you for this video.
Good on you my man, you learn as you go along, I love that statement.
Thank you for exploring these places.
In the Omen, a metal spire is struck by lightning and impales Patrick Troughton.
I realise the circumstances are very different, but Savile's elaborate and presumably extremely expensive gravestone was removed entirely by his family, not because of vandalism but through shame
Yes and weirdly; So-vile had his caravan right next door; in nearby Cragg Vale; next to the Hinchcliffe arms. Even more weirdly that demon used to masquerade as a priest giving Sunday sermons in the parish church. Even Stephen King couldn't make this shit up; but it is true. Matt Parker has done a great vid about this on Dark Side of the Moor youtube channel including a very creepy story about a missing child.
I've always wondered why he didn't just step out of range of the flag pole to avoid being impaled, I would have
@@davideatwell6577 Sir Jimmy had a 6th sense of impalement
More a reference to the film “hot fuzz” than the “omen” I would have thought 😂
Walking reverently on fallen grave stones to read inscriptions is fine. It’s dancing on them that’s frowned upon.
I don't think they are fallen, I think they are meant to be like that. I'm always surprised to see gravestones on the path around my local cathedral. Its like the person is forcing you to notice them
Ted Hughes and Sylvia Plath lived in North Tawton, Devon for a while.
That is a beautifully kept graveyard thanks for the walk and talk
I took pictures of Sylvia's resting place when I visited her site many years a go...I did not know about where she was buried until a friend of mine suggested we go and pay our respects as it's only two bus rides away...so we did...
Happy new year and good morning to you. I was wondering in what state it was when you visited.
I found my old Galaxy note 3 mobile but it has no sim card or battery...my recollection of Sylvia's grave I can't remember, but it must have been ok otherwise I would have remembered...sorry I can't be more helpful buddy...
@@hekakain4108 Thank you kindly .
Just a random comment, Sylvia Plath's mother was Austrian, and her father, A German who immigrated to the USA, was an entomologist and wrote a book about bumblebees.
I enjoyed this video, I will watch more of them.
I was raised that whatever is going on in someone's relationship is none of my business unless there's an abuse type situation. It's between a man and their woman..period
'their woman'
Whether it's the _most_ controversial gravestone in England I'm not so sure, but it's an interesting story.
Quite a beautiful place with all the grave stone tiles, and the old church and the ruins…😮
I enjoyed this immensely…subscribed ❤
What a hauntingly beautiful place.
First time on this Channel. Impressed. Very enjoyable and nicely presented.
That's a new degree of entitlement: Changing gravestones to your liking 🙄
Fascinating video, interesting subjects. Thanks for uploading. What a place,eh?
Nice Triumph hoodie! I have a 78 export bonnie I've had for 40yrs. Also, a few yrs ago our local left footer church lost one of it's tower spikes. It went through a roof. They stood it on the ground like that one. Nice channel. Respects from Durham.
Thanks you! I'm yet to find a warmer hoodie 😄 it sounds like those spikes have fallen in a fair few villages.
Sadly, I think that Sylvia Plath Hughes' suicide was one of two suicides in Mr. Hughes personal life as a lover also completed as did his son.after his father's death.
May they all now rest in peace.
As for the video in general, I found it very inteŕesting despite it's short length and the young chap's frequent modesty about being unsure of some details, making him unwilling to comment, was most refreshing. As for the "big red nose" comments, when you are a handsone guy like him, it is not even noticable!
Blessings and peace and Happy New Year from North Yorkshire, sir!
And the weather looks cold.
Thanks for the tour. US citizens do not get to visit Britain often.
Shame there are some very beautiful places here😊
Sad she took her own life by carbon monoxide after a 6 month separation and assia the other woman died in exactly the same manner in 1969 by her own hand tragic for both women
Both women happened to die the same way? .......
Very interesting video. Thank you.
They loved and hated each other in equal measure imo
Not unlike many relationships, I would think.
The yin Yan of love.💞⚖️💯
Poor woman must have been so sad 😢
Thank you for showing Sylvia Plath's grave. I went up there looking for it but the grass was much longer and I couldn't find it.
It’s a very beautiful old ruin of a church, I’d love to see it in person. And I agree, walking on the stones feels wrong 🌸
Agreement with, beautiful old church. We bring our norms/rights&wrongs with us wherever we go. On visiting Port Arthur Tasmania, I went on a tour of a small island where burials occurred. There are around a dozen marked graves; the rest of the island is made of the burials of hundreds /thousands ???? of the convicts (no coffins they just got a shallow planting). There was no feeling of “the bogles and ghaisties are coming to get me”, rather it was “I am deliberately being disrespectful “
Freda is right. In any case, it is believed that Sylvia took steps to end her life, in the expectation that a visitor would arrive to save her. That visitor missed their train.
Excellent informative video! 👍🏻🎅👍🏻🏴
What people fail to realise is that you can not change history. She was indisputably married to Ted Hughes and, unless you're in possession of a time machine, nothing can ever change that. Vandalising part of Sylvia's legal name on her gravestone is just pathetic.
The graves you walk on aren't bothered by it at all, I assure you.
Next time, let us hear the organist practicing!
There is a grave in West Wycombe (Bucks) churchyard of a woman who died after being caught in a mantrap and bleeding to death. The local aristo "Dashwood" resisted the wording on the stone but finally agreed to "Died as a Result of the Game Laws". This is not anecdotal, I've visited the grave.
Jack, the Japan Alps Brit
She took her own life and the n Hugh's second wife took her life and that of her child.
Seems Hughs might have been a serial killer? Either that or an absolute total asshole.
So both the wives committed suicide? Seems like a case for MORSE to me !
I shouldn't worry about the 666 in the price tag. Originally the number of the beast was a different number, possibly 616. It's worth googling.
Ahh ok. This could a good subject for another video 😄
Yes, the numbers 616 add up to 13 that's why it's considered "unlucky"
@@Thenogomogo-zo3un While 666 is called the "number of the beast" in most manuscripts of Revelation 13:18, a fragment of the papyrus 115 gives the number as 616.
@@northernintrovert I've always heard that it's 3 number 6s in a triangle with the tops touching so it can be read many ways.
666 is due to Alister Crowley.
He left her for another woman. He has no rights anymore at that point. The daughter is not a reliable source for her father’s position here.
That he put his name on the grave, after he left her, tells me everything I need to know.
I would never deface a gravestone but I agree Ted Hughes should have no say. He treated Assia Wevill the same way, the guy had no business forming attachments with women that he knew were already mentally vulnerable. He was even with the other woman the night Sylvia died and had the nerve to write a poem about it.
It is not your business. Plath is dead, so we cannot ask her opinion. So it is up to her daughter as to whether the name "Hughes" appears on her gravestone or not.
@@matthewcoombs3282 Ted beat Plath and caused her to miscarry. His daughter grew up with her father, not her mother so of course she wants his name on her gravestone. I do not!!! agree with her daughter. Sylvia doesn't need his hateful name when she made a name in her own right. Sylvia Plath's legal name was just that: Sylvia Plath. Fin.
Heptonstall is a weird and beautiful place. Last time I was there, there seemed to be a practice of digging several graves at once in the graveyard, and covering them with metal sheets until they were needed. (I assumed it was because the village is remote, the ground is rocky, and they needed to "import" a mechanical digger from somewhere else.)
What a great video clip
What an interesting approach communicating such important heritage! Humble and respectful, yet definitive. I subscribed very quickly indeed. Well done, you’re doing a great job. Kudos
Well done, young fella.
Love those arches!
I was wondering if it was the reformation, but no, the weather 😂
I want to know the full story of Sylvia! Don't be afraid of telling the details! The details is what makes a good story!
Generally I would not be approving of defacement, but given the circumstances (Hughes having clocked up two women who had done the same) then yes, it seems somewhat insulting to give him billing. Don't really care that "her legal name" was Hughes, her professional name was Plath. As for the family, both children were toddlers when Sylvia killed herself.
The only thing I have seen in graveyards that was more insulting, was having the family annihilator buried right next to all his victims.
Complete agreement with you!
You put 'legal name' in inverted commas to make it sound less significant than it is - but it's very much more important than her 'professional name'. She was known as Sylvia Plath to the strangers who read her poems. She was known as Sylvia Hughes to her friends and family. It was her real name, her private name, the name of the real person, which Plath was the name of the poetic persona she adopted. The persona exists only on the page and is unaffected by the real person's death. Sylvia Plath isn't buried there. Sylvia Hughes is.
I could not disagree more. It is a private matter and not for a stranger to take it upon themselves to deface a gravestone.
Your approval or otherwise is completely irrelevant!! Absolutely no one outside of direct descendants has any right whatsoever to make changes to a headstone. You can make whatever statement you feel disposed to on your own headstone. The minding of ones own business is definitely a lost art and the world is a much poorer place for it.
The cemetery i worked in with my dad 50 years ago has a grave slab which says that the man was eaten by a shark 1890s
Did they bury the shark?
@@Bobario1 No, they had grilled flake for the wake. 😄
The shark must have left a bit of him then
@@shirleyn546 Maybe so. Or bits of him. That would be a nasty way to go, r.i.p. unknown grave occupant.
I noticed the same in Knaresborough. A lot of the gravestones were now used as paving stones. I imagine there were so many people buried there, they had to do it that way. Soft soled shoes would be in order I think. Canadian here.
I need to get over to Knaresborough at some point! I guess it may have been common practice back then. It's also the same in nearby Haworth and was one of the contributing factors to their water contamination.
Two things, when talking about suicide the verb is hanged not hung. The angst round Sylvia is also to do with another female, and her daughter, Ted was involved with. You need to do your research.😢
I also feel not great about walking over gravestones laid like that. I always apologise to the occupants!
Why did you say it sounded sinister? Probably either a church service, or perhaps the organist and choir at practice. Thank you for the tour, looks a lovely place.
Thankyou for a fascinating video.
Ive just subscribed to your channel.
i am surprised they permitted her to be buried in a churchyard. suicides traditionally were not allowed. her family wrote what they wrote, they have not changed it, nobody else has the right to an opinion
That's an historical practice. My two great uncles were suicides, the family had no problems burying them in a church yard.
*I just looked it up, the practice stopped in 1882
@@VMM34 much earlier date than i thought, im a century out of date, though not burying suicides was a still traditional thing when i was little, i overheard some hushed conversations about it. i suppose some family's stuck to the tradition longer, some moved on, i am glad your family got to morn your great uncles the way they saw fit. i don't see what happens to the shell as important, once the person has left it, but the memories shared are
@gerrimilner9448 Oh I see, that's really interesting. I wonder if the vicar of the church in your area was aged and insisted on sticking to the old rules? My great uncles were buried in the mid 1950s. They were both farmers and I've only just learned that chemicals in farming could lead to mental health issues and suicides, so perhaps that's what happened. The family spoke little of it and now they've all passed away so I can't ask them.
Btw, I wonder how many crossroads we pass daily that have bodies buried beneath. It's sad to think about.
Thanks for replying 👍🏼
@@VMM34 that conversation was my grandparents and some other relatives in the early 80's i was not 10 yet. i think it was mostly my Grandparents (born 1901 & 1920). i do not know what the vicar thought, though i dont think he was there
Thanks❤@@VMM34
Just think. There is a good possibility that the grave of the person known to history as Jack The Ripper is somewhere in London in a cemetery like this.
Aah history! It's just one thing after another. 😂
Good video thank you. Happy new year.
Sylvia, rest in peace. Her two children died before their time too, and I hope they're resting in peace as well. I wonder if a sign were posted at the cemetery to not desecrate the markers, and maybe install a camera so that people can receive a huge fine, which would pay for repairs. Here lies a literary genius, and people can't just leave well enough alone. A camera installed surreptitiously, along with a written warning.
Her daughter Frieda is still alive.
Interesting vid thanks not been ' up ' there for many a year now but a fascinating county with tons of history . Subbed & liked 🎉
How beautiful and eerie. It would make a great movie setting for a horror scene.
He felt he had the right to burn her work so people feel they have a right to erase his name.
Love your Yorkshire history shorts. Keep em coming. Have subscribed.
Thanks so much! More on the way soon 🙂
Your doing great 😊 😻
Nice place 👍 nobody here but us chickens😂😂😂
They were everywhere! 😂
@@northernintrovert The Birds!! The Birds!! 😱😵💫
That's disgusting, vandalidsing a gravestone, it's nobody's damn business what is on another persons gravestone!
Unbelievably disrespectful to go against her own daughters wishes. Just leave it alone.
So peaceful lovely secary
At the end of the day, it is a family's gravestone and anyone who wants to impose their views on that is somewhat up their own bottom. No matter what rights or wrongs, disrespecting the family who lost a loved one is just a disrespectful person in general.
Ridiculous how unconnected people love to feel outrage on behalf of others. If readers have strong feelings about Sylvia's & Ted's relations it's definitely not their place to deface what in effect is a strangers grave! These vandals should pay their respects if that's why they are there & if they can't do that peacefully then they shouldn't visit. Sylvia Plath RIP. PS/ After watching this video I was the 666th thumbs up, out of interest!
Is David Hartley Related to JR Hartley 😂😂😂 Remember the Ad?
You're Fly Fishing for information, aren't you? 😂
Their daughter is quite right - it ISN'T anybody else's business! And it's a bloody cheek to vandalise a gravestone!
Thank you, N.I, for a fine, and interesting, documentary 🙏🏻
Read a Ted Hughes poem like Hawk Roosting and ask yourself how human, how empathic or compassionate (or just how decent) the man was who wrote it. The poem celebrates the majestic and predatory nature of a 'king-animal' (a predator not prey to any other creature) as something natural, necessary and entirely reasonable or sensible. Hughes was an emotional fascist and Plath must have suffered terribly at his hands.
He beat her routinely and caused her to miscarry. She did indeed suffer.
But he was right. He understood the natural world. It would seem you don't
The remains of the old church looks awesome.
That's why coins now have that like serrated edge.
Let only those who have never sinned, cast the first stone.
Beautiful ruins ❤
. No matter what you think about it you have no right to criminally damage/desecrate a headstone. Most suicides are buried in the north side of a cemetery if allowed to at all
My great grandfather came from around Heptonstall and migrated to Australia in around 1890 as he wanted a more exciting life.
Canada's most controversial gravestone belonged to the Black Donnellys. The original stone correctly asserted the 4 family members in the grave had been murdered. The members of the mob who murdered them still lived in town and did not like the use of the term. Also because of the fame of the murders, people would come to chip off pieces of the gravestone to keep as souvenirs, or to deface it. The original stone was taken down and hidden (it's still missing) and a far more conventional stone was put in its place. People still chip off pieces of it though.
I like the way you surreptitiously referenced Father Ted ‼️
The path down the cliffs at the back is also a memorable experience 😂
Unscientific theory: narcissists are MORE likely to lean into fandoms. If they identify enough with a character, even an author, it's vicarious validation.
I find Hughes's explanation odd. He left her. Why does he care if the last name on the grave is her maiden name? Most people know her as the poet Sylvia Plath, not Hughes. What were Sylvia's wishes? Does anyone know? Many women revert to their maiden names after a divorce.
I'm not sure of any documented last wishes of hers, but it's an interesting question as well as why she was buried in England rather than back home in Boston. Someone out there may know more.
@@northernintrovert Just the logistics of transporting the body back in those days, it was not common to be done by aircraft (except by the military, they had cargo planes). In recent decades a bit more common than it was to transport remains.
😊greetings from Scotland … that was all very interesting and informative 👍
If they wanted to catch them, they'd put some hidden cameras around the headstone.
It does feel wrong to walk on a grave but the grave stones no longer mark the grave site, although bodies may have been buried in the ground underneath , stones are often recovered ,and r
e-laid when graves collapse
Its like the furore about Charles and Diana. She was no picnic either but pretty high maintenance. Sylvia also had a history of mental illness. My father did too and he was not easy to live with either tho a good soul. As for destroying some of theunpublished work, Charlotte Bronte destroyed Emily’s unpublished work too.
Wow it’s weird they arranged people like that. So many flat stones almost on top of each other.
Keep it up....😊
Beautiful church and gravesites
I love your videos mate thanks for uploading ☺️
Lovley place very interesting