I love how everyone is either reconsidering their tier lists for Meta Knight or at least talking about him. Goes to show how one player can change how everyone views a character. Now if only a Shulk or Marth main would win a major.
It's kind of like what happened with Leo and Byleth except you could possibly argue that this is a stronger case for MK since he's not being piloted by the best player in the world (no offense to the legend Abadango)
@@MisterCwisper Facts. If Leo didn't pick up Byleth, he would still be seen as low tier. If Leo didn't drop Marth and/or won a major, he'd still be seen as top tier. If Ragelo never got 9th at Smashcon with Lucas, nobody would even consider him viable. If Light never played Fox, absolutely nobody would know how good he is. I can go on, but I think I've given enough examples.
@Lapis Manalis I've mained him from the day I got Ultimate in 2020. He is definitely cracked. He's good on any competitive stage and he is good in almost every match-up depending on how you play him in that match-up. With so much diversity in his kit, I hate seeing him underutilized. He even beats many top tiers either in Neutral, offstage, or both, but nobody talks about that.
I'm glad Meta Knight is back on the map. And I just wanna say how much I love that "Nebula Belt" is playing in the background. If I'm not mistaken, that's the level that was most suited for farming the airtime needed to unlock Meta Knight in Kirby Air Ride. Genius editing.
15:14 just a tidbit from an mk main--ladders are heavily dependent on % bc upair doesnt send into tumble (so u can only sdi) at lower %s depending on char weight. since sephiroth is so light, upair tumbles much earlier which is why ken can escape so easily
As an MK player I think the char is a solid high tier, very risk reward but has super good things about him, his biggest weakness being getting important hits and his more linear neutral. But if you're able to hit the ladders or get good percent off of them, you're golden. He has top tier edgeguarding, really good disadvantage, good at getting out of the corner, super deadly combos, good frame data, good advantage. Think people only think he's bad because lack of reps and he's unorthodox to play and requires a lot of time to get ladders and bridges down
“You shouldn’t limit options just cause they aren’t working” Me: keeps spamming roll on elite smash even tough I keep getting punished Me: but Larry told me to
sephiroth is combo food for mk combos, and he's very susceptible to bridges. it's just the combo window happens at an earlier percent, so abadango was unintentionally making the combos more difficult by doing dash attack into up smash, so when he would try to ladder sephiroth after another dash attack, sephiroth would go into tumble earlier which is way easier to just DI out of the ladder combo otherwise, if he kept sephiroth closer to around 7-14% ish, he could do a bridge/ladder off of a grab near ledge and probably kill him much more consistently
Always played against meta knights in our region (OCE) from players who are believers and I tell you, getting caught in his uair chains feels more depressing than getting caught in the Mythra blender
Rly enjoying how the ultimate meta is playing out .. even w steve dominance and pyra/mythra being annoying we’re seeing specific character counters that have specialized answers for those characters (Lucas, metaknight respectively). wonder if we’ll see top pros pick up one-character counter secondaries as the game evolves
it also just like feels like steve is answerable in ways that bayo/brawl MK werent. dominant and high pressure, but answerable, especially if you’re willing to play unorthodox characters
10:36 Aba must've tried to spotdodge or roll because he is still holding his shield a frame before the hit, neither are intangible on frame 1. Holding the shield would've been a break, and letting it go would've been a parry, and that definitely isn't a shield poke.
Im not even trippin on it being metaknight. Im way more shocked at how simple he kept all of his damage and kill setups. I could be wrong, but I believe he went up against characters on the lighter side of things but MK not being in alot of people MU chart also played a part. Masterful pick
@@reshirampokemonwhite ma’am I am black. We get passionate when we speak and type ya heard. But if you wanted to get to know me-that’s all u had to say sweetheart
@@shadatoosaucy3445 i-i meant like, in smash brawl, meta knight debuted, andd the worst thing of the game was u could get punished if u were too aggresive with tripping, the characters literally could trip and it was funny but bad competitively, so it made me remember that hehe.. + oh and meta knight was a god in brawl too (SS tier)
I think now that Smash Ultimate isn't getting anymore balance updates, more underused characters are gonna start popping up. I remember when the game got leaked and EVERYONE was talking about Meta Knight and then once the game came out pretty much everyone forgot about him. So glad to see that there's still dedicated Meta Knight players out there still putting in work. Ultimate has so much to offer and i'm hoping to see more underused characters do it big.
I didn't play brawl so I'm glad I don't have PTSD from watching this and it seems quite cool actually. Esp the uptilt and down tilt horizontal kill combo rather than the upward ladder combo
Meta Knight is under-estimate because of his nerf thank of his reputation as a Broken character. I used to see his Rufio combo as cheap and stereotypical for Meta Knight that I am convinced he is more than that. Heck, he can win with without them! And Abandago proves me wrong by turning a cheap combo into a punishable move. Combined with a strong neutral, he turns MK into a beast.
Bro I went to a local recently and got smoked by a meta knight. I asked if he plays often and he says "I dabble". His name is Bonk and turns out to be a highly ranked player in the region known for his Meta Knight. I got hardcore schooled 🤣
Meta Knight's hair still needs more buffs. In fact I still can't see it at all. Our handsome knight needs long elegant locks to match his powerful and mysterious aura
Aba’s meta knight back in smash 4 was an absolute force so glad to have gotten glimpses of it here Sadly he announced on Twitter that he’s gonna find another character to use once again
the moment I landed my hands on mk on ult I instantly knew he was very good and I never understood why top players like dabuz think he's bottom 5 bruh how could he be that bad 💀💀💀💀💀
I also think Sheik is extremely slept on, but it's pretty much unavoidable to not be considered an upset unless Sheik mains starts placing way higher in the future before the point she wins a major
I can say that about a lot of other characters. Joker was good but people didn't use him because "you have to be precise" then Leo used him and now he's considered top 2. Marth is still considered bad even after his tipper consistency buffs because people hate being precise, anyway. Meta Knight we're already talking about, so lol. Pikachu is super precise so nobody cares to use him at top level other than Shinymark and ESAM.
@@Spyder-Marth Kazuya needs machine-like precision, Riddles is the only one to consistently reach that level and even he finds it tiring and shifts down to Terry when playing Kaz is too much
The ladder combo is wild and I don't think I can get tired of seeing it. My only problem is, on the chance that you outside the percents for the combo to work.... What else you gonna do?
Meta Knight is not underrated. Aba is just CRACKED. Definitely mid tier, MAYBE bottom of high tier, with random good matchups against some top tiers cuz he has good burst options. Compared to how OP some characters are in the game, there’s no way he’s underrated
Nah, a lot of people underrate him, seen him in low tiers many times. Imo if you're really good with ladders while also being a really good player he's a solid high tier character. Do think he's underrated cause most would say he's mid
I feel like Meta Knight could be a good answer to Steve. He's mobile, his multiple jumps allow him to go around some of Steve's traps, and most importantly, Tornado beats minecart
@@SonicTheCutehog yeah, people hate good characters being good lol. You don't HAVE to like the underdog, but apparently you're a Villain if you cheer for the better character.
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Imagine a timeline where proto went min-min against Leo and Leo pulled out the meta knight
The good ending
Aba was always the better Meta Knight so we eating anyways
Well Leo pulled out the Meta Knight. Can't wait to see it in full swing
I love how everyone is either reconsidering their tier lists for Meta Knight or at least talking about him. Goes to show how one player can change how everyone views a character.
Now if only a Shulk or Marth main would win a major.
frrr man
It's kind of like what happened with Leo and Byleth except you could possibly argue that this is a stronger case for MK since he's not being piloted by the best player in the world (no offense to the legend Abadango)
@@MisterCwisper Facts. If Leo didn't pick up Byleth, he would still be seen as low tier. If Leo didn't drop Marth and/or won a major, he'd still be seen as top tier. If Ragelo never got 9th at Smashcon with Lucas, nobody would even consider him viable. If Light never played Fox, absolutely nobody would know how good he is.
I can go on, but I think I've given enough examples.
@Lapis Manalis I've mained him from the day I got Ultimate in 2020. He is definitely cracked. He's good on any competitive stage and he is good in almost every match-up depending on how you play him in that match-up. With so much diversity in his kit, I hate seeing him underutilized. He even beats many top tiers either in Neutral, offstage, or both, but nobody talks about that.
Nicko recently did really well at Wavedash
I'm glad Meta Knight is back on the map. And I just wanna say how much I love that "Nebula Belt" is playing in the background. If I'm not mistaken, that's the level that was most suited for farming the airtime needed to unlock Meta Knight in Kirby Air Ride. Genius editing.
I love Kirby music
15:14 just a tidbit from an mk main--ladders are heavily dependent on % bc upair doesnt send into tumble (so u can only sdi) at lower %s depending on char weight. since sephiroth is so light, upair tumbles much earlier which is why ken can escape so easily
later in the set aba does hit a ladder against a higher % sephiroth though; thats just cus abadango is way too good and we will never be like him...😞
As an MK player I think the char is a solid high tier, very risk reward but has super good things about him, his biggest weakness being getting important hits and his more linear neutral. But if you're able to hit the ladders or get good percent off of them, you're golden. He has top tier edgeguarding, really good disadvantage, good at getting out of the corner, super deadly combos, good frame data, good advantage. Think people only think he's bad because lack of reps and he's unorthodox to play and requires a lot of time to get ladders and bridges down
That fact that he used the Dark Meta Knight skin in particular is the icing on the cake here
I love Meta Knight, love to see it performing well
If you like Meta Knight performing well you're gonna LOVE the competitive scene for the 3rd Smash game.
@@SausRelics What competitive scene? :)
@@bluyu Honestly LMAO
@@bluyu this is cold lmaoo
It?
I loved watching abadango's mk in this tournament
was a pleasure
A good meta knight is still a nightmare
“You shouldn’t limit options just cause they aren’t working”
Me: keeps spamming roll on elite smash even tough I keep getting punished
Me: but Larry told me to
Meta Knight is so fun! I always thought that he's way better than people say he is, he has so much good stuff.
The VOD in the description is for Smash Factor 9
recuerdos de vietnam por el Meta Knight de Smash Brawl xddd
sephiroth is combo food for mk combos, and he's very susceptible to bridges. it's just the combo window happens at an earlier percent, so abadango was unintentionally making the combos more difficult by doing dash attack into up smash, so when he would try to ladder sephiroth after another dash attack, sephiroth would go into tumble earlier which is way easier to just DI out of the ladder combo
otherwise, if he kept sephiroth closer to around 7-14% ish, he could do a bridge/ladder off of a grab near ledge and probably kill him much more consistently
Always played against meta knights in our region (OCE) from players who are believers and I tell you, getting caught in his uair chains feels more depressing than getting caught in the Mythra blender
Rly enjoying how the ultimate meta is playing out .. even w steve dominance and pyra/mythra being annoying we’re seeing specific character counters that have specialized answers for those characters (Lucas, metaknight respectively). wonder if we’ll see top pros pick up one-character counter secondaries as the game evolves
it also just like feels like steve is answerable in ways that bayo/brawl MK werent. dominant and high pressure, but answerable, especially if you’re willing to play unorthodox characters
25:00 Aba said on his stream that he could have made that back, but the hitlag from the pikmin on him messed with him.
I wanna see leo play MK again. His sets against zero’s diddy back in sm4sh was some of the highest levels of smash I’ve seen.
I’ve always felt this character is nasty, when I faced online metaknights it would either be easy or hell on earth
10:36 Aba must've tried to spotdodge or roll because he is still holding his shield a frame before the hit, neither are intangible on frame 1. Holding the shield would've been a break, and letting it go would've been a parry, and that definitely isn't a shield poke.
Abadango is just too good fr
Lets' go Abadango, man those ladder combos. What a throwback!
Im not even trippin on it being metaknight. Im way more shocked at how simple he kept all of his damage and kill setups. I could be wrong, but I believe he went up against characters on the lighter side of things but MK not being in alot of people MU chart also played a part. Masterful pick
You call this simple? Mk's ladder and bridge combos are very complex and dependent on many factors
@@TheNavigator4552 Yea im a fan too 🙄
TRIPPING?! 🗣️🗣️❗❗❗🔥🔥
@@reshirampokemonwhite ma’am I am black. We get passionate when we speak and type ya heard. But if you wanted to get to know me-that’s all u had to say sweetheart
@@shadatoosaucy3445 i-i meant like, in smash brawl, meta knight debuted, andd the worst thing of the game was u could get punished if u were too aggresive with tripping, the characters literally could trip and it was funny but bad competitively, so it made me remember that hehe.. + oh and meta knight was a god in brawl too (SS tier)
I think now that Smash Ultimate isn't getting anymore balance updates, more underused characters are gonna start popping up. I remember when the game got leaked and EVERYONE was talking about Meta Knight and then once the game came out pretty much everyone forgot about him. So glad to see that there's still dedicated Meta Knight players out there still putting in work. Ultimate has so much to offer and i'm hoping to see more underused characters do it big.
I didn't play brawl so I'm glad I don't have PTSD from watching this and it seems quite cool actually. Esp the uptilt and down tilt horizontal kill combo rather than the upward ladder combo
Abadango was my first top player I watched a ton of because I liked his inkling alot
Meta Knight is under-estimate because of his nerf thank of his reputation as a Broken character.
I used to see his Rufio combo as cheap and stereotypical for Meta Knight that I am convinced he is more than that. Heck, he can win with without them!
And Abandago proves me wrong by turning a cheap combo into a punishable move. Combined with a strong neutral, he turns MK into a beast.
Give it a month and Leo will probably bring back his meta knight
He might just to specifically body Proto
@@Spyder-Marth his air game with aegis would work so good with meta knight
@@iv624 Yeah. Meta Knight could completely replace his Aegis and nobody would be dissappears lol
Abadango wanted to test that Leo beating min min and lucina 🥶
Hey, first! No one throw a blue shell!
This video made me realize how amazing Abadango vs Light would be
Guys, Meta Knights B beats minecart. Just putting this info out there.
Bro I went to a local recently and got smoked by a meta knight. I asked if he plays often and he says "I dabble".
His name is Bonk and turns out to be a highly ranked player in the region known for his Meta Knight. I got hardcore schooled 🤣
Bonk is arguably the best metaknight main in the world :p
@@alexina4567 lmfao. He said "I dabble" 🤣
@@alexina4567 lmao he’s pretty good but he’s not beating any of the top players aba beat with mk. Bonk probably second best by a decent margin
@@Volfenschtein
I agree that Abba is better. Which is why I said “main” :p
Technically, MKLEO would be best metaknight
@@Volfenschtein bonk is the best at Mk combos but aba is just a better player overall. If aba had bonks combo game he'd be even more insane
Let’s not forget fair and hair got buffed in the last patch, those are big kill moves for mk
Meta Knight's hair still needs more buffs. In fact I still can't see it at all. Our handsome knight needs long elegant locks to match his powerful and mysterious aura
Aba’s meta knight back in smash 4 was an absolute force so glad to have gotten glimpses of it here
Sadly he announced on Twitter that he’s gonna find another character to use once again
YOU HAD SOMETHING GOOD ABA
@@ThatSneakman they kept on nerfing his characters
the moment I landed my hands on mk on ult I instantly knew he was very good and I never understood why top players like dabuz think he's bottom 5 bruh how could he be that bad 💀💀💀💀💀
That's crazy to think that Aba getting a set win is an upset
When we see Sheik take a major I hope people dont think its an upset lol
Sheik is BUSTED.
I also think Sheik is extremely slept on, but it's pretty much unavoidable to not be considered an upset unless Sheik mains starts placing way higher in the future before the point she wins a major
It’s always funny seeing people’s shock to how early MK ladders killed.
I think I downloaded the wrong Meta Knight's revenge
26:35
Dang, that sucks for Shuton, but at the same time I was rooting for Abadango so yeah!
i think meta knight is well rated cause while he’s not a bad character, he is a bit hard to master
Meta Knight been good, people just don't like being precise.
I can say that about a lot of other characters. Joker was good but people didn't use him because "you have to be precise" then Leo used him and now he's considered top 2. Marth is still considered bad even after his tipper consistency buffs because people hate being precise, anyway. Meta Knight we're already talking about, so lol. Pikachu is super precise so nobody cares to use him at top level other than Shinymark and ESAM.
@@Spyder-Marth Kazuya needs machine-like precision, Riddles is the only one to consistently reach that level and even he finds it tiring and shifts down to Terry when playing Kaz is too much
Now I know who I should also main to eradicate the aegis from this universe
The Man was Banned from Brawl Tournaments back in the Day for a Reason.
Pit is also a bad match up for min min but most pits play super passive for whatever reason
The ladder combo is wild and I don't think I can get tired of seeing it. My only problem is, on the chance that you outside the percents for the combo to work.... What else you gonna do?
what’s the music that starts 2:40
Meta Knight is not underrated. Aba is just CRACKED.
Definitely mid tier, MAYBE bottom of high tier, with random good matchups against some top tiers cuz he has good burst options. Compared to how OP some characters are in the game, there’s no way he’s underrated
Nah, a lot of people underrate him, seen him in low tiers many times. Imo if you're really good with ladders while also being a really good player he's a solid high tier character. Do think he's underrated cause most would say he's mid
I feel like Meta Knight could be a good answer to Steve. He's mobile, his multiple jumps allow him to go around some of Steve's traps, and most importantly, Tornado beats minecart
Also there is a glitch that Meta Knight can pass through Steve's blocks after losing a stock.
Why were you playing dedede’s theme in the beginning and not meta knight’s the from forgotten land?
I've always said this character is underrated.
I think metaknight in ultimate could be like pikachu in melee, the potential to kill early is there but nobody really plays the character
>Abadango
I have all the answers that I need
15:38 for Seph yea
Why is it that every time Larry posts I end up picking whatever character is featured in the video
How are these videos just coming out almost a month after the event happened? 🤨
Combination of me not seeing the event when it first happens due to traveling and my editors working on other videos
I'm so embarrassed that I gave Meta Knight so much slander back then.
I gotta say, Bongo Doggo is probably one of the players of all time
Sephiroth isn't hard to ladder, Ken was just slightly too high percent - went too high with the up air to get hit with the next up air
How do you autocancel Mach tornado?
Not gonna lie i cringed when i heard one wing makes sephiroths moves more safe. And i was in a public area too.
Meta Knight back on top 😤 my favorite character he looks just so cool 😎
Meta knight is +1 off stage against the whole cast
Finally. Thanks Larry!
Do you live stream on twitch
Imma be honest meta knight is top tier
Frame 1 jab is so free
Meta Knight is everything he is all you ever wanted..
He's the knight of the meta.
This game is so well balanced
15:27 absolutely disgusting 😤
Meta knight is the best character to watch
Crazy how both of brawl's toxic character's are peak hype in this game.
I'm a simple man, if I see icies or MK in top 8, I click.
Because they suck in Ultimate
@@SonicTheCutehog yeah, people hate good characters being good lol. You don't HAVE to like the underdog, but apparently you're a Villain if you cheer for the better character.
All that off dash atk.. gross
Goat Knight
Sephiroth does alright against Pikachu since Pikachu can't Thunder Jolt to approach without dealing with Scintilla.
Zero to death
Smh not Brawl all over again
Nair is free
Mfw LarryLurr upload
Seph is easy to ladder not hard btw
bonk is better, he doesnt drop the combos as much
Got you with the like and comment bro
Meta Knight has always been great. Pythra still not top 5
I think the reason mk is trash is because he can't act out of any of his specials.
i hope yall know meta knight is hot doodoo -an mk main before yall start calling him broken