Meta Knight is a surprisingly powerful anti-meta character, if you think about it. His offstage edgeguarding is second to none, and that’s really strong against many of the high/top tiers with poor or straightforward recoveries. With consistent bridge combos, a good Meta Knight could easily make waves in not only the tournaments, but the tier lists, too.
@Angelic o Nice Btw I'm pretty sure that there is an official Smash 4 tier list where he's barely Top 10 S: Bayo, Cloud, Diddy A: Sheik, Rosa, ZSS, Sonic, Fox, Mario, Mewtwo And then Marth and Ryu on 11 and 12.
@Angelic I think that was in the period where Smash 4 was still the relevant game. Now, as far as I know, this is what people (generally) officially agree(d) on
I feel like a LOT of characters are tournament viable but it takes a really dedicated and skilled player to prove it. Some of the top tiers still haven't found major wins or at least got top 8 placements in majors/supermajors.
@@Nekotaku_TV Being ignorant is the right answer. A lot of people think Meta Knight sucks in competitive play. Then again, they think a lot of characters suck just because most top players don't use them.
I just want to call attention to the fact that they gave meta knight a move that can trip. They gave the king of brawl a tripping move. Intentional or not, that is hilarious.
I legit got bodied by a Meta Knight on Elite Smash the night before this video was posted lol. He had over 11.9 million GSP and was styling on me the whole game. I was certain Meta Knight is tournament viable with the crazy combos and edge-guarding game he has, and Abadango proved it. Meta Knight may actually be high tier. I'm so glad he's popping off, now. But if this guy is popping off, what about Sora? Oh gosh...
Honestly the issue now is that MK requires actual effort. It's the same with the Miis they're all underrated because people don't wanna learn. They don't wanna do matchups and customisation based matchups so they write them off. MK low key at least mid tier
The problem with MK is that if your combos starting at 0-10% doesn't kill, you only did 40% and now you have to play neutral until the oponent is at 120% to kill him That's why a lot of characters are more viable
I think the biggest thing with a lot of the high tiers is the lack of edge guarding keeping them from coming back. Meta knights edgeguarding potential is insane
yes, the edgeguarding and combos are crazy. but what I've always found to be the thing that gives metaknight the boost he needs is how insane he can play neutral. The movement, fast hitboxes, multiple jumps, dimensional cape, all mean he controls the pace of the game - which is perfect against the current meta shifting into steve, min-min, etc. I picked up mk 3 months ago for those reasons, and now it's paying off
No one's talking about how badass Meta Knight's Japanese voice is in this game. His neutral attack sounds like he's from a fucking anime (other than the existing Kirby anime)
In case anyone doesn't know, the Japanese voice actor for Meta Knight in smash brawl, 4, and ultimate is the same voice actor for the Japanese version of Meta Knight in the anime. (Dedede does not get this treatment.)
Glad one of my favorites is covering this, I love meta knight man this is scary. Definitely has some pretty bad Match ups out there but in general is a crazy threat with this level of consistency and there’s still more MK can offer
Does my eyes deceive me, is this Brawl? Tbh, I'm glad to finally see a viable meta knight. I don't play smash, but even with his nerfs, he never seemed low tier.
For someone with close to 3k hours of playtime with MK, but who hasn't had the chance to attend tourneys, this was incredibly validating to see. It's almost absurd how many negative comments I've received when sharing MK combo clips... "Not a true combo", "Bad DI" etc. Between Bonk! and Abadango, there's now plenty of evidence that MK can contend with the best in Ultimate, he just requires very hard work, and nerves of steel to maintain that level of precision in high level play. I have to salute Sakurai.. He made the skill floor on the character MUCH higher, but still ensured that with enough dedication and courage, Meta Knight Da Bess.
@@He-Tries lmao. I wasn't showing off, just expressing how much love and dedication I've committed to the character. ..But since you've turned this into some kind of "life worth" d***k measuring contest.. I've put way more time than 3k into playing and performing music, recorded and live. I've got a full time job + massage therapy license for backup. The miniature in my profile pic was hand painted by myself. I've traveled to 12 countries, and have a network of friends and family across the globe. I was solo caregiver for my mom during her 4 year battle with cancer. Tl;Dr: I've accomplished and seen more than you could ever dream of. Get Rekt scrub.
Most top tiers have good recoveries (even if simple) and good ledge trapping or landing punish. Meta might be lacking else where but his off stage game and options to land are so much miles better than I'm pretty sure literally the entire cast actually. Since the top tiers are have strong recoveries it makes it means they demand even better off stage guarding to actually be punished which meta knight actually elivers
NO WAY!?!?! UP AIR TO UP AIR INTO UP AIR!?!? AND THEN MIX EM UP WITH THE UP AIR!?!?!?!? AND HE FINISHED IT WITH AN UP B??????????!!!!!!!!!! THIS GUY IS BEYOND BIG BRAIN!!!!!
I think this shows the pure potential for MK to be great. The consistency of his edge guarding and zero to death combos is incredible. Good to see meta-knight is getting respected
I feel like with how strong meta knight was in brawl as opposed to Sm4sh onwards, people unconsciously assumed this character has nothing left to offer in his weakened state which is obviously a flawed method of reasoning as we can see with Sm4sh Cloud who despite taking heavy nerfs continues to be tournament viable in ultimate
My brother and main sparring partner mains meta knight, I been saying he’s a sleeper high tier :p ever since his upthrow became a kill throw again he’s damn good. He has some matchup checks and his ladders don’t work on the whole cast but even without them his biggest weakness is that he has low damage output sheik style. Very good at winning neutral and very threatening if he gets you off stage but eventually he can kill throw you or kill you with stray bair/nair/dsmash
Meta Knight is a surprisingly powerful anti-meta character, if you think about it. His offstage edgeguarding is second to none, and that’s really strong against many of the high/top tiers with poor or straightforward recoveries. With consistent bridge combos, a good Meta Knight could easily make waves in not only the tournaments, but the tier lists, too.
Maybe he should change his name to anti-meta knight
@@ballzz2thewall Brawl: Meta Knight
Smash 4: Not Meta Knight
Ultimate: Anti-Meta Knight
It’s why his name is META knight
More like unsurpisingly good. He always had the tools, just that he’s not played as much as the top meta characters
Anti-meta, I feel like I'm listening in on 2013 yugioh again.
Abadango wasn’t actually in tournament, he was in training mode
Abadango been goin crazy with “low tiers” ever since smash 4, you just KNOW he’s gonna pop off at every tourney he’s at
Ah I noticed the quotes.
@AngelicMewtwo was widely considered Top 10 in the whole Cast lol
@Angelic o Nice
Btw I'm pretty sure that there is an official Smash 4 tier list where he's barely Top 10
S: Bayo, Cloud, Diddy
A: Sheik, Rosa, ZSS, Sonic, Fox, Mario, Mewtwo
And then Marth and Ryu on 11 and 12.
@Angelic I think that was in the period where Smash 4 was still the relevant game.
Now, as far as I know, this is what people (generally) officially agree(d) on
@Angelic trueeee
There'll NEVER be an official Smash Ultimate Tier List LOL
Smash 4 was even barely possible
I always knew Meta Knight was tournament viable, we just needed someone to show us :)
I feel like a LOT of characters are tournament viable but it takes a really dedicated and skilled player to prove it. Some of the top tiers still haven't found major wins or at least got top 8 placements in majors/supermajors.
@Twisted Coaster Fan indeed. i main ics and picked up sepiroth just for the same reason.
Edit: same reason abadango swapped to palu.
@Zooker That's also very true
Makes no sense to me to assume he wasn't... we knew he was great. =/ Seems to me people are either pretending or being ignorant.
@@Nekotaku_TV Being ignorant is the right answer. A lot of people think Meta Knight sucks in competitive play. Then again, they think a lot of characters suck just because most top players don't use them.
I just want to call attention to the fact that they gave meta knight a move that can trip. They gave the king of brawl a tripping move. Intentional or not, that is hilarious.
Is it finally time to bring back the Meta Knight da bess you ever had Song?!
It never left.
Wut
Please
META KNIGHT IS EVERYTHING
HE’S ALL YOU EVER WANTED
Dude! That legendary Meta Knight was absolutely incredible run in the tournament!
I legit got bodied by a Meta Knight on Elite Smash the night before this video was posted lol. He had over 11.9 million GSP and was styling on me the whole game. I was certain Meta Knight is tournament viable with the crazy combos and edge-guarding game he has, and Abadango proved it. Meta Knight may actually be high tier. I'm so glad he's popping off, now.
But if this guy is popping off, what about Sora? Oh gosh...
What was their tag?
Honestly the issue now is that MK requires actual effort. It's the same with the Miis they're all underrated because people don't wanna learn. They don't wanna do matchups and customisation based matchups so they write them off. MK low key at least mid tier
@@illford Facts
The problem with MK is that if your combos starting at 0-10% doesn't kill, you only did 40% and now you have to play neutral until the oponent is at 120% to kill him
That's why a lot of characters are more viable
@@biledox5576 F-Smash doesn't kill?
Hbox getting up to flicker the light switch absolutely made my day hahaha
IT WAS SO UNEXPEDCTED LMFAO
It was pointless asf
@@jack-vi6rg but golden nonetheless...
one of the most insane runs i’ve ever seen
I think the biggest thing with a lot of the high tiers is the lack of edge guarding keeping them from coming back. Meta knights edgeguarding potential is insane
yes, the edgeguarding and combos are crazy. but what I've always found to be the thing that gives metaknight the boost he needs is how insane he can play neutral. The movement, fast hitboxes, multiple jumps, dimensional cape, all mean he controls the pace of the game - which is perfect against the current meta shifting into steve, min-min, etc. I picked up mk 3 months ago for those reasons, and now it's paying off
No one's talking about how badass Meta Knight's Japanese voice is in this game. His neutral attack sounds like he's from a fucking anime (other than the existing Kirby anime)
In case anyone doesn't know, the Japanese voice actor for Meta Knight in smash brawl, 4, and ultimate is the same voice actor for the Japanese version of Meta Knight in the anime.
(Dedede does not get this treatment.)
@@mill2712 dedede has the greatest voice actor in the history of the series he doesnt need no japanese anime treatment
@@julianiskool1255
Do you know what I was talking about? I'm unsure you know what I meant.
stupid af we don’t have voice options
That's one of the reasons why I switch to Japanese voices!-
(I switch to the Japanese language)
The way he was dodging the purple pikmin on last stock game 5 😮💨
That movement was absolutely insane.
Sephiroth: "Now, I shall give Smash despair."
MK: "no u"
Hbox getting excited is a wonderful thing to watch!
Glad one of my favorites is covering this, I love meta knight man this is scary. Definitely has some pretty bad Match ups out there but in general is a crazy threat with this level of consistency and there’s still more MK can offer
Absolutely insane
Now we only need A Dedede to complete the Canon Kirby Character Players (the other one is JeJaJeJa)
flicking the lights on and off is a new pop off option i didnt expect
Does my eyes deceive me, is this Brawl? Tbh, I'm glad to finally see a viable meta knight. I don't play smash, but even with his nerfs, he never seemed low tier.
6:15 this made me jump out my seat HOLY
Every time he landed an upair my brain went, "Oh, so he's dead now. ok."
Meanwhile in the states were facing the stevepacolypse
For all mk secondaries and mains, this was a day of glory. May the mks rise to the top.
For someone with close to 3k hours of playtime with MK, but who hasn't had the chance to attend tourneys, this was incredibly validating to see.
It's almost absurd how many negative comments I've received when sharing MK combo clips... "Not a true combo", "Bad DI" etc.
Between Bonk! and Abadango, there's now plenty of evidence that MK can contend with the best in Ultimate, he just requires very hard work, and nerves of steel to maintain that level of precision in high level play.
I have to salute Sakurai.. He made the skill floor on the character MUCH higher, but still ensured that with enough dedication and courage, Meta Knight Da Bess.
Hell ya man! Now only if you put 3k hours into something that can give back to humanity like learning a real skill!
@@He-Tries lmao. I wasn't showing off, just expressing how much love and dedication I've committed to the character.
..But since you've turned this into some kind of "life worth" d***k measuring contest..
I've put way more time than 3k into playing and performing music, recorded and live.
I've got a full time job + massage therapy license for backup.
The miniature in my profile pic was hand painted by myself.
I've traveled to 12 countries, and have a network of friends and family across the globe.
I was solo caregiver for my mom during her 4 year battle with cancer.
Tl;Dr: I've accomplished and seen more than you could ever dream of.
Get Rekt scrub.
@@He-Tries Why don't you do the same instead of making fun of people over the web.
Memories of Leo doing this with MK back in Sm4sh, wished he still used him in tournaments.
Hungrybox content on Abadango's Meta Knight. A good treat!
It's so good to see Abadango back up at the highest level. Vikkikitty is somewhere losing her mind right now.
This is giving me strong Brawl tournaments flashbacks
Noooo, so close, two of my favorite characters and one of my favorite players
Honestly as a big Kirby fan, I would love to see meta knight be used more
finally glad to see my secondary get some competitive recognition. Abadango is insane!
Meta knight as a secondary? What's your primary
@@apple-de8tx I main Mega Man. Meta Knight and Snake are secondaries.
Abadango is NUTS holy shit. Welcome back King!
Most top tiers have good recoveries (even if simple) and good ledge trapping or landing punish. Meta might be lacking else where but his off stage game and options to land are so much miles better than I'm pretty sure literally the entire cast actually. Since the top tiers are have strong recoveries it makes it means they demand even better off stage guarding to actually be punished which meta knight actually elivers
As one of the few meta knight mains, I approve of this!
Yeah I've played Meta Knight since the start of ssb4, about time they recognized his power in Ultimate
@@redfoxeli7488 so you could say they.. know his power?
NO WAY!?!?! UP AIR TO UP AIR INTO UP AIR!?!? AND THEN MIX EM UP WITH THE UP AIR!?!?!?!? AND HE FINISHED IT WITH AN UP B??????????!!!!!!!!!! THIS GUY IS BEYOND BIG BRAIN!!!!!
Lol
You do it consistently first.
@@bond3161 I know, I tried it, and it's ridiculously hard, but it's still funny to see hbox pop off to the same combo he saw last stock
@@aurora_x86 yeah it's not new
Aba is so sick on MK, glad to see that back
so glad my boy meta knight is getting some great rep
Oh, yea, I figured out that Dash Attack works into Up Smash as well lol. F-air onto ground also goes into Dash attack.
That Meta Knight up-air chain is giving me flashbacks to Brawl...
Bro is same day delivering them to the blast zone
Hey Juan you did super awesome against Ginger at smash con bro 😫❤️ love to see you melee
always knew Meta Knight was good asf. I could never figure out how to use him well but the potential was always there
Bro your screaming reactions are unmatchable 🤣
Broke the meta
meta knight in the thumbnail
BRAWL FLASHBACKS
So good to see this man's return. ❤️
It’s a bad time for everyone when meta knight becomes META
who wants to BRAWL
As a meta knight main in ult its nice seeing people recognize this characters utter swag
The "More you know" got my like LOL
There is a reason he’s called ‘Meta’ Knight
Meta Knight’s still got it after 14 years
As a Meta Knight main since 2012, this is nice to watch
I always felt like MK was underrated in ultimate. Glad to see someone rock as him.
This man making people throw out their tierlists
I think this shows the pure potential for MK to be great. The consistency of his edge guarding and zero to death combos is incredible. Good to see meta-knight is getting respected
homie making me want to pick up MK 😳
That Pikmin player, to remain coolheaded in that situation is amazing.
I swear every mid and low tier can be great in the right hands
Aba woke up and chose to whip the Brawl top tier technique.
Meta Knight seems like an absolute nightmare to fight, especially if you're offstage.
1:29 thats a sick screenshot
When the world needed him most, the prodigal son returned.
It's nice seeing meta Knight finally get some use!
Alternative title: Meta Knigth returns for his throne
I feel like with how strong meta knight was in brawl as opposed to Sm4sh onwards, people unconsciously assumed this character has nothing left to offer in his weakened state which is obviously a flawed method of reasoning as we can see with Sm4sh Cloud who despite taking heavy nerfs continues to be tournament viable in ultimate
Holy crap.
Congrats to Abadongo and Mi-ya tbh
I called this 4 years ago, I saw a combo clip with meta knight and said to my friend meta knight is back and I’ve been saying that for years nkw
“MKLeo is about to pull out the meta Knight” lol it’s almost like it’s in his name
I always knew this meta knight was underrated. This guy scary and he’s so aggressive with his chase !
I have NEVER seen Meta Knight's Nair before. Also HOLD UP BRAWL META KNIGHT IS BACK!?!?!?
Very satisfying to see a good meta knight being played.
dude meta night hasnt changed
The number of times I said, "What on Earth did I just see?!?!" during this video is unreal!
consistent meta knight kill of dash attack at 25% for pretty much any character be like:
Hbox: Japan just broke the smash meta
Mkleo enters chat: Evo Japan champ 2023
Meta Knight's nair is unfairly good
Its brawl all over again
Ay Hbox rocking the Buc-ees hat lessgo
Abadango somehow remains stuck with Brawl's Meta Knight and is always capable of pulling some crazy stuff.
This makes me feel a bit better to try and main meta knight. He is so fun to play!
the king has returned
my boy meta knight getting some representation
My brother and main sparring partner mains meta knight, I been saying he’s a sleeper high tier :p ever since his upthrow became a kill throw again he’s damn good. He has some matchup checks and his ladders don’t work on the whole cast but even without them his biggest weakness is that he has low damage output sheik style. Very good at winning neutral and very threatening if he gets you off stage but eventually he can kill throw you or kill you with stray bair/nair/dsmash
"Ah sh*t, here we go again."
Meta Knight is just swordie Sonic
Returning meta knight to his former kingship
As a meta Knight main I'm glad to see this
I surprised no discovered he was amazing until now I always knew meta knight is sooo good
Return of the king
H box is just thinkin, "Meta knight does what puff does and runs them into wall from air".
Hbox popping off more than the abadango himself
Man yelling at camera in a spiderman shirt
we need a drunk smash tourney
We need more top tier meta knights. And bowser jr’s.
Definitely more bowser jrs
I second this message as a Jr main
He is “Meta” knight after all
HBOX’s commentary did Abadango’s gameplay more justice then the actual commentary lmfao 😂
Good content ❤️
Brawl MK is back in meta, just in time with Steve being meta. Japan MK vs American Steve is now the new rivalry of Japan vs US