Tips For Setting Up And Adjusting Shimano R5801 7000 8000 And 9100 Front Derailleurs
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- Tips and Tricks for fitting Shimano Dura-Ace FD R9100, Shimano Ultegra FD R8000, and Shimano 105 FD R7000and 5801 Front Derailleurs. The setup process for these Shimano front derailleur models is virtually the same. In this video, I give a few examples of the most common mistakes I see and how to avoid them. I have a few other front derailleur setup videos, but this one is a little more detail-oriented.
Shimano dealer manual installation instuctional PDF: si.shimano.com/pdfs/dm/DM-RAF...
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Finally someone who does not explain too fast and really takes the time to explain thoroughly -- thank you!!
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Knowledge is one thing but delivering it in a way that doesn't result in more questions is a skill in itself.
@Johnathan Nicholas i really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and Im in the hacking process atm.
Takes quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
Hands down the best adjustment video I've seen. Love the fact that you've left out the music etc. (and explain the manual here and there) so we can actually also hear what the drivetrain sounds like.
Complete and very clear! I solved my FD not shifting-up watching this video! Initially read the Shimano Manual, and boy it was hard to visualize and understand what the manual required us to do. This video tutorial was perfect for people with minimal bike repairing skills. Thanks!
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Definitely a great video with a great explanation. As you said, the shimano manual may not be so clear with the instructions (at least for beginners), but here you clarified very well it. Of all videos I watched to try to better understand what I was doing wrong, you video was the only one that worked! Thanks for the video!
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Clear and thorough. The perfect complement to the dealer's manual. Thank you !
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Thank you for this! My front derailleur was rubbing even after taking it to the bike shop; your video was the only one I found that explained how to tension the cable correctly and I got it sorted out.
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Literally the best how to video I have seen on TH-cam. Thank you so much for taking the extra time visually and verbally.
Thank you so much for this video! I have basically never repaired a bike and even less with this particular part on bikes. Without your video I would never have fixed this. Now I am ready for tomorrow when I will make my longest cycling route so far this season. 💪
Cheers! 🍻
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Thank you so much! I've been endlessly going into shops for adjustments on my 105 FD-R7000 and getting really frustrated with it going out of adjustment very quickly. I think they just were doing basic adjustments and never stepped it back to the beginning as needed. This video helped a ton.
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Wow. You nailed this when so many other have failed. I finally know this component now.
Thank you for this tutorial, Joey. You have clearly explained the purpose of the step where the outer plate lines up along the big ring prior to tightening up the cable.
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Holy crap I wish I had known this video a lot sooner. Thank you you saved me hundreds of dollars on a tune-up and destroyed drivetrain
I did have a problem setting mine up until I saw your video. Very helpful. It’s now perfect. Well done and thank you.
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Thank you! This is a good illustration of the steps shown in Shimano documentation. Keep them coming.
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Wow, this is by far the best video on setting up an FD! Great work Joey!
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This video is the clearest. Audio is spot on. When I tried adjusting L and H screws, the guide plates didn't move however. My bolt to the braze on to align the guide plate didn't move the guide plate outward either. I have about 1,000 miles on it.
Thanks! I appreciate the feedback. Is the derailleur shifting ok? No rubbing throughout the range of cogs in the rear?
Thanks for that! Great valuable tips where most of other tutorials has missing ! I was able to setup my FR in my new bike. Thanks a lot !
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Good to have clear instructions on these deraileurs.
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Thank you so much for such a detailed instruction for setting up the 105.
Most of the videos on TH-cam are missing the fundamental explanation of the reasons why each screw need to be adjusted. They tell you how the screws work but not showing the correct adjustment.
Glad I have my chain rub fixed. No more embarrassing noise in all gear range now. It was so loud I used to paddle slower in front of others.
LoL
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I changed chainrings and used your tips to make adjustments after. Thanks, what a difference on my R7000.
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Thank you for the great tutorial, I finally was able to set my derailleur cable tension properly !
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This was very helpful, thank you for taking the time to go through the process thoroughly.
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Had some issues with my 2022 CAAD 13 front derailleur. Your tutorial did the trick. Have nice crisp shifting now. "Way ta go Joe"!
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Thanks for the great tutorial! I was able to dial my front derailleur in. It is still not perfect, but so much better than it was before!!
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Great tutorial! There are a few other videos for the same task but your's was hands down the best. Thank you
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Excellent! Exactly what I've been looking for. I've just bought a new bike with this set-up, and the ONLY problem I've been having is in trying to eliminate the chain rub in the top three gears. Now I have the answers. Thanks for this.
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Thanks so much for this video. I've always done my own setting up but was having trouble getting to grips with this type on my new bike. I would never have known about adjusting tension to line up the lines. It turned out the whole thing was set up wrong even though the previous owner had just had it serviced!!!Well done. 😮
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Thanks for helping me again, Joey!
Very detailed step by step instruction. Thank you so much!!! Fixed my issue👍🏼
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Learned quite a bit from this video, best one out there! Thanks 👏🏼
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Hi again!
Thank you for your response under the other video. I've gone through shimano instruction a couple of times already. Cable tension is ok (the marks are in line). Looks like the derailleur that I have is very similar to the one in this video, however I need to screw in the high limit screw much more to be able to switch from the small ring to the big ring. It works all right. Still I have to put the plate on, because the shop I've bought the bike in hasn't put it and I can hear the derailleur moving around on bumps.
Thank you and keep up the good work!
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Thank you so much for this excellent video! I got a new bike and the FD was not set up correctly when I got it (terrible shift to the big ring and lots of rubbing). I was able to get it working by adjusting the H limit screw, but took it to the LBS to have someone with experience on the 105 R7000 look at it. When it came back the low trim did not work and making noise on the small ring and smallest 3 cogs. I decided to start from scratch using the manual and your video. Now everything is working great AND I know how to adjust and set up this FD!
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I join the others in thanking you. The dealer manual is not clear at all and your video made it clear that with this "new" range the setup process is different from the older range. I wasn't aware of that. In October 19 I went on an offroad tour on my specialized diverge sport (105 FD R7000and 5801 Front Derailleurs) and halfway (about km 400) I managed to suck the chain between the crank and the frame (horrible - happened due to crud and it was night-time) . I managed to bodge the removal of the jammed chain in a roadside repair but in freeing the chain I had to remove the front derailleur. When I screwed the derailleur back on was when I discovered the setup process for the 5801 is different from the older version and I didn't know it (aaaaargh). The remaining part of the tour was spent with just the small chainring. I have been using just the small chainring since November. My January resolution is to watch your vid several times and then fix my front derailleur. Hallelujah! Praise the goddess of Allen keys....
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Thanks Joey, really helpful. I am about to install my new 105 front derailleur, and feel much more confident now. Stu
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And again… Thank you very much!!!
On my brand new bike, which was supposedly assembled in England, the fd 7000 was installed completely wrong so I had to redo it completel (thanks to this video it went smoothly). Yes, it’s quite different from traditional front derailleurs setup and yes, Shimano manual is quite confusing.
One more thing I want to point on (which may not be important at all :)). According to shimano manual the tape on the backup plate plate should be away off braze-on but on my bike and the bike in your video it’s glued on the side of the clamp.
Once again Joey, an excellent vid. My FD-R8000 problem was chain rub when in big chainring and 3 or so smallest (high gear) cogs. During adjustment, when in top trim position, my white lines were just a hair off indicating too tight. But the adjusting barrel was backed out all the way so I couldn't loosen it anymore. So I started over and loosened the pinch bolt and released a bit of cable - really felt quite loose to me, but starting with a looser cable, my white lines were almost there, but not quite, still showing a bit tight. So I started over and this time, along with the looser cable, instead of lining up the outer derailleur plate exactly with the outside of the big ring (with low limit screw), I didn't take it quite that far, so my outer plate was probably lined up with the inside of the big ring instead of the outside. Bingo! Now my white lines needed some adjustment via tightening the barrel adjuster, and once I dialed that in, the shifting and trim is working great! My problem is gone. Not sure if that all made sense, but Thanks Joey!
Yes, it makes total sense. I generally do the same thing, but it does vary some with different cable routing setups. Thanks for your feedback!
@@JoeyMesa Awesome Joey - I knew if anyone would understand my dissertation, you would! Thanks man.
Great job Joey! Very thorough, and Very helpful.
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Gotta say this is THE BEST video I have seen on this topic. Thorough and simple. Great "camera work" - clear and sharp. I just subscribed and look forward to seeing what else you have!
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@@JoeyMesa No worries. have been doing my own wrenching for nearly 40 years and I'm amazed how (beautifully) complex my 2018 TCR is. Did anyone ever tell you that you sound like Woody Harrelson btw?
I've always stayed away from adjusting my FD. After watching your video, I finally fixed and understand how FD works.😅😂 Thank you so much!!
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Great video! 👍Thank you for saving me so much trouble. I have no doubt that the other videos from this channel are excellent. Subscribed.
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Very helpful. I did this few times. First time failed. Bike service reinstalled for me. Second time was just tightening the cable. After four or five times tries, I am finally able to adjust H/L screws and tignten the cable to near perfect . Trim position is good as well. This video is my essential guide.
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You are a life-saver. New bike means cables are stretching and i can't put it into the shop everytime
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Hi, thank you for making this tutorial. Keep up making similar ones.
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Absolutely awesome video! Thank you for taking the time to make and share such valuable knowledge. It was very clear and helpful.
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Very detailed and just what I needed, thank you
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Well done - Saw the length and rolled my eyes - but after watching the whole thing, you got it right! Funny thing is - I just bought a bike and realize the shop I bought it from could benefit from watching this video....
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Great video. Clear and complete! Thanks.
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Thanks for the vid. Those new FD really needs a real instrution
I broke one when i tried to set up a dura ace cause i've not been cycling anything the last 5 years. Good instruktion vid!!!
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Brilliant demo buddy
Excellent pictures and explanation - many thanks.
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Skip the first 23 minutes if you just need to know how to adjust the trim. All in all, one of the best and thorough vids on the R8000 FD.
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Awesome video. My gears just weren't right. Trim positions didn't work. Followed video and so much better now. Thanks 😊
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Thank you for the video , my bike is super ninja like quiet and shifts all gears super smooth. Cheers.
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Absolutely great video. Nicely presented slow and very easy to follow. I have set my 105#R7000 similar but not to the fines as you. What a great job . Thank you so much Gerald south Wales UK
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As has been said, this vid is delightfully thorough & easy to follow.
Just a note, putting that 'half moon' washer against the flat edge of the front face on the braze on frame clamp is at odds with engineering of the parts.
This video helped me a lot. Thanks man!
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The best video i have seen about it 👍
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Great video!! What I noticed with my FD and it appears to happen here. The high limit screw is screwed in so much that the low limit screw doesnt touch anymore in the small chainring. I don't have any issues shifting but it seems like the only thing the l limit is good for is getting the initial cable tension correct
Great guide. Helped me to fit (and understand) it kinda on TIagra with GRX cranks and 11s chain. Not perfect, but quite fine.
Thanks!
Thank you from Slovenia😊
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Great demonstration
Thanks!!!
Great video. On my 7000 i'm finding that the cage never gets sufficiently inboard to not rub on the small chainring/big cog combo. Even if i back the L adjustment all the way out. I guess I may have too much tension so even when the shifter is completely released, the cage doesn't drop inboard enough so as not to rub.
As a bike Mechanic hahaha, i have to say , this is really one of the best tutorial on how to adjust this 11 sp shimano front derailleur..... I do it also exaclty as you explained ,very good details you showing.... But like you said before, there are so many mistakes that can be made with installing and adjusting/ fine tuning it. This video is top Notch bro !. Normally if it were not a good movie I would be furious in my comments(as a bike mechanic hahaha ;) ) , I hate youtube bike amateur. You my friend are a fucking pro ! thank you , love from the Netherlands !
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Cheers mate. This is way better than some others on here.
...plus you sound just like Woody Harrelson ;-)
Thanks! 😃
I should have read the manual, thanks for the how-to
Hey Joey, very nice video! I have been messing with this for a while on a new bike. I kept re-doing it, but the derailleur cage kept getting stuck on the big chain ring. Finally I just unbolted the derailleur, since it seemed it rotated out of alignment, and lined it back up parallel to the chain ring, while the cable was still connected and Bam, everything worked just fine after that. Thanks for the very nice video and using the Shimano dealer manual helped quite a bit, but never really read it, until I saw your video. Hope this helps other Folks if they still have problems. I do not know why the cage kept getting out of parallel alignment.
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Many thanks for this detailed explanation.. very helpful :)
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In your first picture of the tension screw where you said it was too far in, that amount of threads showing was actually fine if that’s where you ended up after setting the tension. Later when you decided to do a complete set up, it had magically been run in quite a bit further, and that was not in a good final position so it needed to be corrected there, but the first instance was fine, and you changed it between shots without saying anything.
The original setup with the adjustment screw out a few turns was where this bike rolled in. I tried to get the lines for the correct tension to line up (with the derailleur in the big ring with the first trim position down), but the tension was still too loose, which is why the adjustment screw was all the way in before I reset everything. It took up a lot of time, so I edited that art out as I thought it was irrelevant. Sorry for the confusion. The important bit starts after that anyway.
This tutorial is gold! Also it sounds like it's made by Woody Harrelson :))
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Very excellent sir! Thanks for saving my day 👍
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My bike came without the backing plate. The FD had flex and it would shift poorly. I was wondering why an Ultegra FD was such a dreadful experience. Then I downloaded the Shimano manual and found out about the plate. I set it up from zero again like you did in this video and it's now just perfect.
Yeah, it doesn't really work well without the plate and the stabilizer screw set. I still see a lot from him mechanics/inexperienced shop mechanics that are unaware of this fact.
RTFM, as they say!
Cheers worked brilliantly
Super helpful. Thanks man!
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Great video. Helps a lot!
I wonder: Whats the purpose of the FINAL trim at 16:30? Souldn't it be fine to run small ring and large cog without shifting into this final trim?
Excellent detailed video, thanks
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Min 15, thanks bro! I was missing that step, I wasted over an hour on this derailleur xd
Glad I could helpI
I was missing that too. Always had the slack on cable. Thanks for great video tutorial.
Thank you very much for this tutorial, could have saved a couple of hours and unpleasant rides if I saw it earlier.
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Excellent and concise, thank you
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Thank you Joey - the level of detail and accuracy in your video is amazing - by far the best. Quick question, is the Shimano manual wrong on Pg 19 (Top Adj)? It states that the largest chainring and largest sprocket is the adjustment position. In the video, you adjusted on largest chainring and smallest sprocket (which makes more sense to me). Just curious. Please advise.
Hi Joey, thanks for the video. Your video made the shimano manual clear for me. However, I was still not able to shift from the small chainring to the large chainring, even after following these steps. I have the shimano 105 R7000 groupset. The front derailleur moves, but it's not enough to even move the chain up. Second issue I'm facing is the 105 front shifter (front derailleur) not engaging to shift to larger chainring unless I move the small tab between the shifters. These are 2 separate issues I'm currently having with my 105 shifter and front derailleur. Any ideas? Thanks!
Very helpful. A question on my part; after a slightly rough time of setting up my R7000, the tension screw squeaks loudly when adjusted. Anything I should do about it? Also I've never been able to avoid rubbing when in the large chain-ring crossing over to the two or three largest cogs on the cassette. And while there's a healthy amount of trim on the small chainring setting, there's very little in the setting on the big chainring.
Great video. Quick question. Which left shifter (small & big) did you find the trim position? Is the large shifter has 2 clicks? Mine seems to have only one click. How do I get to the second click to set up the larger chainring then? I know the small lever one has 2 clicks, which one is the trim, and which one is the final position?
Great video very clear
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Brilliant video
Thank you!
Thank you for this helpful video. I just bought a new bike and wondered why the trim in the large ring is not doing anything . Would that be too much cable tension or not enough ?
Sounds like too much cable tension, but it also depends on the relation of the derailleur to the chain in various gears.
Thank you. Very detail.
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You got yourself a subscriber. I have a problem with the trim from the small ring first trim position doesn’t do anything. It doesn’t move the derailleur. With the second click the derailleur move the chain directly on the big ring. The trim from the big ring works fine on both ends.
1. Check derailleur is set at correct height and outer cage plate is parallel with chain ring line
2. With shifter completely in lowest position (ie. not taking up cable slack) Check low limit is not too far outboard by by pushing with your thumb on cage to inboard of bike. Correct position is inner cage plate .5-1.0mm inboard of outer link of chain.
3. If first two are correct, you likely have a cable tension issue, assuming your cable and housing is not contaminated affecting the glide or friction of inner cable through outer cable housing
I agree with Mike. Too much tension won't let the der. move that last bit of trim distance to reach the limit screw. If this is the case, then my guess of why it works at the big chainring is because this is where the spring has the most torsion...so it's overriding the high cable tension. However, at the inboard position the spring is close to home and is not torsioned enough to override. Or your low limit screw is too far outboard. One of the two. Simple RoT: Tension for chain moving up - Slack for chain moving down.
I think Shimano dropped the ball with these front derailleurs. My main problem was coming home after a long hard ride and having my left hand more sore than my legs from all the lever ( derailleur ) resistance. I solved the problem by installing a Microsoft compatible ( 11 speed ) front derailleur. It is a conventional design with the cable anchored on an arm that hangs to the left of the main body ( like most front derailleurs ), thereby increasing leverage and reducing resistance at the shift lever. It shifts just as fast as the Shimano and the shift lever trim positions are more precise than with Shimano. Setup is simple, the two limit screws and cable tension. I was able to get the cable tension tight enough by pulling on it with pliers while tightening the anchor bolt. No need to use the barrel adjuster at this point. I am very happy with this outcome, just wish I thought of it sooner. The icing on the cake was that I sold the used FD8000 on eBay for more than I paid for the new Microshift derailleur (also eBay ).
INCREDIBLE tutorial! I was struggling to get this derailleur set up right, and this video really explained everything. One thing thats weird is the bike shop has the little stabilization plate in the wrong place, son the stabilizing screw kind of just hits it on the edge... i'll have to fix that, obviously, but how can i get the plate off the reposition it?
Thanks! It's not too difficult to peel the support plate off. You might need some glue or double sticky sided tape to reapply it. Worst case, you can just buy a new one: amzn.to/2S2K310
awesome, super helpful, thanks for sharing
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Thanks for doing this video, it’s a really big help. One question; why did you move the derailleur back inward after clamping the cable and before setting the tension with the barrel adjuster? This step doesn’t appear to be in the Shimano tech doc. I assume you’ve added this step from experience. Or is it an essential step that the tech doc missed out? Thanks, Tim.
By initially adjusting the low limit screw out, it sets the derailleur up to clamp the cable in the ideal spot on the cable. It doesn't really matter if you shift the derailleur up, trim the shifter and set the line on the barrel adjustment screw first, or back the limit screw to the approximate location first. It's not really essential, it just seems quicker. Sorry for the confusion. Thanks for the question though!
I've never been so bored
Excellent! Thanks very much.
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Thanks for your vid. However when i shift it doesnt go up to big chainring. Did i miss something? I pulled all the slack when tightening the cable.
Hi Joey, I've got one where the stabilizing screw won't reach the backing plate on the seat tube. I thought I remembered you running into the same thing and epoxying a piece of something onto the downtube, but I can't find it now. Can you give me any more details on what and how you rigged up something that worked in this situation? So this is a replacement of a 5800 to a R7000. With the 5800, the screw reached the plate, but not with the R7000. Frame is a 2016 Trek Emonda ALR 5. Thanks for any help!
Great great job. Thanks
i have rapid fire 3 speed gear changer on the front and it's new ! shifting down the front gears while travel is perfect . up gear changing fron the small to the big gear is different i have to hold the lever down while the gears are changing is that normal
Great tips. Thanks
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Great video, especially as it follows the Shimano manual. I have followed the method and have a good set up. I find there is very little (no) movement between the TOP and TOP-TRIM positions though. Can you suggest what I may have done incorrectly?
The top trim doesn't move much, but it sounds like the cable tension may be slightly too tight or the high limit screw is a hair too far in.