HANDS ON with Quest 3S! It’s MUCH MORE IMPORTANT Than You Think!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- I've had an exclusive early look at Meta Quest 3S, and it is the most important headset of this year! In this video, I explain why, and give you my initial review of the headset!
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I think since they put the Quest 3 on sale, people who want a quest, should save and get the better lenses. Great video!
Pancake lenses are treated as the golden standard for VR.
You don't get the golden standard of VR for $299.
My plan is getting the quest 3s and sharing it with my brother,
pass down the quest 2 to my younger sister and then save up to get the quest 3 myself
This is the way.
I only have the 64 GB quest 2 but I don't use it that much in standalone. So I don't care if I'm waiting for a VR headset with pancake lenses on a $299.99 USD. So i don't need to upgrade. Would be nice for there was a thing like a quest 3s+ that has pancake lenses starting at 399.99 for 128 gb
you say "Pancake lenses are treated as the golden standard for VR". -- great ,, but they cost $$$$
Fresnel quest 3s 128 GB $299,, 256 GB $399,,, quest 3 Pancake 512 GB $499
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what would be more useful to know, how big is Quest operating system, how much free space in 128 GB is available ?????
The BIG news from all this imo is the price drop for a 512GB Quest 3. Logically a $100 increase for more storage "&" the better lenses/form factor makes me wonder why anyone would be stupid enough to go with a Quest 3s 🤷♂️
Great video :)
Im not watching too much VR content on youtube these days as i bought the pro and havent been interested in anything that the market has to offer atm.
That said, I have watched a few of your most recent videos this week and i feel like you are spot on with it. The pace, the insight and content. A big improvement since i first stumbled across your videos about a year or two ago.
Great stuff, keep at it!
This gonna be the definitive headset, especially at the price.
I can't wait to grab one with the Batman game with it.
But I'm mostly all in with mixed reality 😁
what will you do for audio or are you just sticking to the built speakers?
Bluetooth is gross. No thanks. Hardwired is the only way.
Never had a problem with built-in speakers on the Quest 2 😊
@@robdavis8556if you have even sub decent headphones the Quest 2 speakers sound like trash, no headphone jack bothers me
for me BT Audio quality is fine, just the lag especially in rhythm games is vile
Quest 2 actually launched with 64GB, I was one of the early adopters.
Even though Fresnel lens aren't as good as pancake, pancake lens are really expensive, and they need a much brighter screen, so its not like its an easy decision to make to add them in.
The shape brings me back to the Oculus go times
Anyway i'm happy they went with a quest 3s and not a new quest since many of us have the Quest 3, the Quest 2 took a while to be surpassed from another meta headset (the quest pro doesn't count), so i hope the quest 3 will last a while before the Quest 4 arrives
The famous worse in the market 3 positioned ipd adjustment is back guys!!!! WOOOHOOOU 🤮!!!
Uhhhhh pretty sure the rift s had a worst ipd adjustment system
imho does the Q3S make little sense.
The current Q3 (smallest storage) didn't even had enough space to have Asgard's Wrath installed. So why would I want to have a HMD with even less storage? (and also less features). For PCVR?
Valve did exactly the opposite by increasing features and moving completely to PCVR. So it is exactly the opposite of Q3S (also in terms of price).
I doubt there are many casual gamers that would buy Q3S just to try VR without having set expectations.
One of the main pluses of Quest HMD is the big store, which will become of quite limited use with Q3S, or who will un-/install all the time because there is not enough space for more than 1-3 games?!
Q3S is most 'useful' for standalone AR. Except it loses a couple of Q3 features that would improve the experience. So that's also not the target consumer group.
I have heard of people buying used Q3 headsets. I guess their price is in the range of Q3S, just with full features.
And let's not forget the Q3(S) are at about the tech level (from consumer pov) of two years ago when Pico 4 was released.
Something like Q3S I would had expected last year but not this year.
Unfortunately all other HMD releases this year were more or the less disappointing.
My last hope is Google/Samsung/Qualcomm to move the market forward.
Meta, Apple, Sony... all plan to release HMD with lower specs. That's the oppisite of progress.
Other vendors (Valve, Pimax) think PCVR users only sit in a chair connected by finger thick cables.
The only good release was Pico 4 Ultra. Just too bad they didn't add some tweaks like increased FOV, resolution or OLED instead of LCD.
04:45 Good vid, but this is not entirely true. There will be an upgrade in visuals due to hardware if going from Q2 to Q3s when playing titles that can run on both machines. Ab-so-lutely. The Quest 2 doesn't run any game even near it's actual screen-resolution (neither does Q3 - there's a LOT of headroom there, but that's besides the point). If you play a game on Q2 that also has a Q3 version and you play it on the latter, it'll look much better and still run at a higher resolution than the Q2 version simply due to having more horsepower. You must've noticed this when running Q2 games on Q3 when it just launched and there weren't any real Quest 3 patches out yet - it ran better and looked better due to the game running at higher framerates and resolution. The fact that the screen of the Q3 has a higher resolution, at that point, did nothing else outside of further minimising the screendoor effect. I'm willing to bet a lot the fact that it'll still look better due to running higher resolutions (and framerates) since it can run the Q3 versions of games.
Bit of a ramble, but I hope you get what I'm saying.
Can't say exactly why, but the quality of your content/videos has improved significantly since last year or so. Probably the structure.. nevertheless nice job. 👏Must have been an exhausting couple of weeks with all the events in the XR industry. Wish you the best for your future endeavors. :)
There really wasn't anything at all for VR at this years Connect. I was really disappointed that they didn't show any R&D for a VR headset with a similar compact form factor like Orion. They have all the tech and knowledge to do it, such a missed opportunity to not show anything like previous years. Surely the current chunky generation of Quests isn't what we're still going to have in 5-10 years time?
I just wish I had a smaller, lighter Quest 2 with better lenses
whats the deal with the headphone jack removal!?! that kills rhythm games unless you use the built in speakers or have an adaptor
Easy.. Companies have teamed up and picked up parts of outdated technology and assembled glasses. You can imagine how many such parts are left that they don't sell.
Question would it be possible for 3rd party companies to make pancake lenses that can adapt for quest 3s? (I am sure this may remove the value proposition and the extra money can just be spent on quest 3)
I would add to this list Microsoft Flight Simulator and Megaton Rainfall.
you spoke completely out of my heart. You are now my favorite VR channel
i regret buying my quest 2 a month ago, please do giveaway gimme headset i broke ass :(
Great video, I am looking forward to your other videos from Meta Connect
Thanks Tetiana! Good stuff here.
Since Meta dropped the price of the Quest 3 I think consumers should go for that instead of the inferior 3S. Will be interesting to see what happens. I also realized the 3 charging prongs are not present on the Quest 3S so u would have to plug and unplug the USBC port and I hate doing that. Just a big NO to the 3S
So if I want to buy the original Quest 3, I must wait until October 15th to see the price reduction for the 512 Gb model?
Same question idk what to do ahah
well I'm not seeing any significant price reductions right now, in Australia. There's a 12% reduction on the Meta Quest 3 128GB on Amazon and yet it looks the the same old price to me at AU$800. Something fishy going on here.
Probably no, they will wait for the current stock of 128GB and 512GB to be exhausted before producing more 512GB for 400$
I just saw that Best Buy has it listed as "coming soon" in US
She doesn't seem to understand the consumer at all. Meta played this perfect. the quest 2 gained HUGE popularity due to the price. 299....then 199 that's crazy! The only upgrade I really want is performance and Passthough AR from my quest 2. This is the PERFECT mix.
Also, meta is loseing money on the headset. its to get you in and get you in the system buying games, and upgrading the addons.
1-Quest 3 now only comes in 512gb, right?
2-If so, does it support microSD for storage expansion?
3-Does the 128gb Quest 3S also have that expansion microSD slot?
1-Yes
2-No
3-No
Will the elite strap on MQ2 work on this?
Stop buying Fresnel headsets, people. You'll thank me later. The Quest 3 is on sale so often in the US, those few extra dollars are worth it. Please don't start with outdated technologies. I'm telling you this from the heart as a VR enthusiast.
It’s a good solution for parents who want to buy the most inexpensive version for their kids
@@DiscoVRTetiana They already bought a Quest 2 for $200 and play gorilla tag
Great coverage and solid points. We are excited to welcome more users into VR!
Odd. I got my quest 3 for $399 on sale over a year and half ago. Have they increased the prices?
Was it a 128 Gb version?
3:24 - The lack of compatibility actually works against you in that statement as if Meta keeps holding games back generationally that then also affects Batman (Rat Time) because if that game doesn't sell well enough it for sure won't be kept compatible to Quest 4 if it isn't possible with players or many other reasons Meta uses to justify not supporting on later hardware like those other great Quest 2 games that didn't make it to Quest 3/3S.
All Quest games have been forward compatible with newer Quest hardware. Without a doubt, the new Batman game will be able to run on Quest 4.
Does it support privacy features like not needing to sign-in to use the device, native VPN support, access to more Secure DNS services, lockable app library (demo, parental control mode or a family safe mode), ability to limit game time?
lol no
Meh... I thought we moved past the toaster strapped to your head form factor... i don't like anything about quest 3s . and we don't care about games anymore . i care about metaverses where users can bring their own content ...
That's where I'm at. I don't care about the games as much. I want to design and create. More drawing and sculpture software, like Quill or Shapelab. More art and design period. And not the unusable AR experience. Just VR art and design.
The biggest feature, pancake lenses has been left out.... this make the whole package worth a big zero! People who do not know about this will freak out when they learn that they have been cheated out of the biggest feature of a quest 3 line of product.
The biggest feature of the Quest 3 line is the Quest 3 exclusive games library which is just starting, and then the optics are an option. Q3s delivers access while Q2 will increasingly be stuck with a still good, but aging library.
great video, have a safe trip home.
Thank you for your opinion
Whew. Glad I got my 512GB Quest 3 on eBay with the official case for $560 earlier this year. I would be FURIOUS if I paid full price.
I dunno, I paid 1500 for the FE Immersed Visor (the main thing i do with my Quest 2 is work.. though some PCVR)
I'm having trouble justifying the weight of Meta and Apple's offerings
Quest 2S
Feel like the Quest 3S price could've been a little lower since they are still using older lens tech, that in theory they already had the production lines still available from the Quest 2 days for those Fresnel lenses $300 is still a bit high compared to some older game consoles, $200 Gamecube ($100 GBA), $250 Wii ($150 DS Phat), $300 Wii U, $300 Switch ($200 Switch Lite, $130 2DS, $130 DS Lite), other console prices were usually much less 'reasonable' by comparison.
299 for Quest 3S, that sounds like a good deal. Thanks for the details.
I have the same soft strap that came with my Quest 3, and I think all the complaints about its discomfort and such a grossly over exaggerated. And, honestly, after using the Bobo head strap on my Quest 2 for so long, I actually think the strap that comes in the box with Quest 3 is just far simpler and less hassle and in some ways actually more comfortable to be honest.
Great video! Meep 🦦
Meta should offer VR HMD’s without the controllers at a lower price. That way Quest w users can upgrade for less by bringing their old controllers
So when is the?
Price drop gonna happen? Cause I just looked up the 512 meta quest3 And cannot find it for $499.99....?
Yeah sure. So meta sold the quest 2 up until a few months ago. At like £300. The quest 2 is now obsolete effectively. Don't ever trust meta. The headset won't sell like the quest 2 did. The reason being quest 1 and 2 owners got burned. The quest 2 should have been £100 max last year.
Essentially just MR camera is the main uograde. Rest is passable and low quality. Same bad colors worse clarity no eye tracking, horrible comfort bad FOV
Throwing batman in there for free is smart. And quest 3s plus if you buy pro controllers is price of normal quest 3
Does it have eye tracking? since they discontinuing the Quest pro, i thought they will have something to replace quest pro
I feel ripped off. I got the 128gb Q3 and soon the 512gb will cost the same as mine. And the 256gb Q3s costs less than mine.😂
Same
I paid an extra $150 for my Q3/512Gb so now feel a little ripped off as well, lol!
Q3s has worse fresnel lenses, lower res display and no headphone jack. Try a Q2 and you'll know you weren't ripped off
I bought my 128 Q3 when there was that 2 day NA sale. I got it for about $143 off its retail price so that's a consolation for me. But I fully expected the 123 Q3 to be replaced by a 256 Q3 and still retain the 512 Q3 as an upgraded model. But wow - same price for 4x the storage?? As a current owner managing 128Gb, I don't how I feel about this new price. If I was a non-owner - it'd be great tho.
I did too but tbf we got to experience quest 3 for about a year earlier. This is the nature of tech sadly. Things that were the hot new will eventually be sold for way less then the original asking price.
I've had great experiences in the last year that made those extra 150€ worth it. The amount of money I've saved not going out to a cinema and a bar with friends, watching our own private theatres twice a week + countless raves and parties where we weren't overcharged for drinks way makes up for the the price of the headset itself, let alone the 150€ difference.
No way I'm going backward with fresnel lenses, smaller sweet spot and lesser resolution.
its not supposed to be a upgrade, the quest 3s if for people who DONT have a quest 3
I watched the event right now. Mark Zuckerberg is real legend and genius in the field of technology, he exactly knows what he is doing. Great VR and SDK for developer in easiest way possible. Holographic glasses 🤩🤩 even he shows the concept of apps and games to developers
I think going forward on a budget, the 3S would be the headset to get, but upgrading from the Quest 2 is not really needed unless you want the exclusives and mixed reality with color passthrough. I imagine it's not worth it for the visuals. It's not easy to reach that price point, so I understand fresnel lenses.
You can find used quest 3 in perfect shape all over for $300. The lenses are worth it.
@kurtzFPV More options then. Some people want something new. Whatever gets more people into VR. Also, the only thing I see for $300. Is the headset with no controllers.
@@MobileDecay I've seen them on offerup multiple times and just got mine for that on ebay a couple of weeks ago with controllers. Sort by lowest price first, then keep going past all the headset only listings.
@@kurtzFPV Awesome deal!
It have same shitty IPD adjustment of Meta 2 and no pancake lenses. Why this is exist?
for people who cant afford a normal quest 3
Pretty disappointed with Quest 3S. The quest 3 gets twice the storage and pancake lenses for only $100 more than the 256 GB Quest 3S. There's no way in 2024 I am buying any headset with less than 512 GB storage and fresnel lenses. What a step back!
Sounds like the 3S is a side grade, not an upgrade from the quest 2. But the Quest 3 selling for $499 is awesome.
If you have the quest 2, you should really go with the graphic enhancement of the Quest 3
Why does Q3S look so awful?
I'm getting a bit of trypophobia from those lenses. They should have put them on an island like every mobile maker does. Very silly mistake from Meta.
Keeps the cost down 😅
They don't look so bad for me. At least they are not the Pixma Crystal...
Why would a Quest 2 user 'upgrade'? It wouldn't even be an upgrade considering the significantly lower resolution display. And it doesn't even have pancake lenses either. The Quest 3S doesn't exist for anyone. It's just Meta following the toxic scheme that many other companies have been following. Instead of dropping the price so that more people can get it, they instead release a lower end model to justify not dropping the price of the high-end unit.
The problem here is that VR just isn't a very established market yet, so this price model just doesn't work. To sell VR they should be working to drop the price of the main unit as much as possible. The high price resulted in lower-than-expected sales for the Q3 and now they're coming out with an overpriced half-assed version that isn't even as good as the Q2 in most ways, but is still costs more isn't the answer. If people want a Quest device that is cheaper, they'll get a Q2 instead. The Q3S is just redundant.
Honestly it is pretty frustrating and disappointing to see major companies ruining every opportunity they have to expand the VR market. Sony failed as well with the PSVR2. Should've worked hard to drop that price, but nope they're delusional and think most people are willing to buy it, despite sales saying otherwise. And the Pico 4 Ultra same thing... they canned the 5 which was looking to be great and instead came out with a P4U that's way overpriced for what it is and doesn't provide any incentive to upgrade into for existing P4 users, since the users for most part just won't be willing to pay more than they did for the original P4, but 2 years later and with a marginal-at-best upgrade.
Quest 3 being superior hardware for superior games is over exaggerated. This is still a mobile hardware and games like Hitman Reloaded prove that. Quest is not for high end games. For that you get psvr2
Hitman reloaded, proves a lazy developer looking for a cash grab.
asgard's wrath 2 is a much better example of what can be done on mobile VR.
wow, a worse new headset with lower specs? exactly what everyone wanted. the whole industry is doubling their computing power year after year while VR is going backwards