We paid when we paid off slavers to release the slaves so it could be done far quicker. We paid with 20,000 sailors life's also. We only finished paying off that debt in 2015 which means every Britain alive today has already paid reparations. This is about greed and nothing more. The sad thing is, we were happy to pay that to end the slave trade back then, it was a point of pride. I bet they would wish they hadn't got involved and left them all to it because if we hadn't done what we had, the slave trade would still more than likely be going on as it currently is in Africa a d we wouldn't being made to feel guilty for something we largely eradicated
But was it even your ancestors? High chance it wasn’t but it’s also a high chance your ancestors were amongst those who were happy to pay towards the abolition of the slave trade. It’s only the elite who were truly involved in it and it was illegal to even have slaves in England at least from the year 1100. If a slave stepped foot on British soil they were considered free because Britain was considered too pure for slavery.
The descendants of slave owners were paid off by UK taxpayers on top of making fortunes from Slavery, so go after those family descendants who still have the wealth. Not from UK Taxpers pockets. Here are some families that owned slaves in the UK: Rees Moggs owned slaves in the 1700s The Williams and Lambert families: Owned estates in Thames Ditton The Godwin Austen family: Owned estates in Shalford The More-Molyneux family: Owned estates in Loseley Park Thomas Lord Onslow: A slave owner Hannah Barnes: A widow who owned nine slaves in Kingston, Jamaica The ancestors of novelists George Orwell and Graham Greene: Slave owners The architect Sir George Gilbert Scott: A slave owner The Centre for the Study of the Legacies of British Slave-ownership at University College London (UCL) has a database of thousands of slave owners and estates, dating back to 1763
Yep I’ve done my family tree. No posh people there who owned people. We were Ag Labs as most people were. Plus what are we paying with? we don’t have any money! If the king wants to give his gold and treasure that’s on his family. The rich noble families in this country they want to cough up?
The ottoman/uslim empire shipped 18,000,000+ slaves to the middle east, while North African slavers setup a base under the ottoman flag on the Isle of Lundy, in the Bristol Channel. Toi raid Britain and European Coastlines as far as Iceland for Christian White Slaves around 6,000,000. Sold by the jewish markets in Venice, Baghdad with artisans sent to work in Tripoli ship yards. The majority of unskilled males, castrated and chained to an oar on a war galley until tipped over the side if they could not roe any more. Reparations, really???
Donald Trump should make an election video of this Labour party stupidity, if you can go to another country and say we have been in government for three months and look what we have achieved.....your country too can go down the crapper if you vote for Kamala?
I have relatives in Barbados. They arrived during WWII and stayed (as did many others) They're much better off than I am (in the UK) and their quality of life there is way better. Should I have to pay 'reparations' to them, or their government? My ancestors (on the other side) left Ireland during the Potato Famine. Another ancestor drowned off the coast off Africa during the fight against slavery. Who's paying my reparations?
Give them the covid jab for free, and then bill them for it in 130yrs time, in the meantime there own families and chieftains and Arab countries can come to a settlement for starting this
Maybe it would also help if they went after the Africans who captured and sold their ancestors into slavery. They wont because they know the answer would a big no, same as why they never go after other countries involved in the slave trade.
Personally i think it should be the other way round, if you come from a country that had slaves you owe reputations to britain for all the money they missed out in banning slavery. We sailed the world enforcing this ban and that wasnt free, not to mention all the profit made off slaves that was missed out on. If the UK had to pay the US for assistance in ww2 i dont see why the UK cant demand money from those it saved
That kind of money would totally bankrupt the whole of the UK, everything economics, businesses and a reason to go work, as all your wages would go back into the coffers as tax.
Quite simple, the people do feel guilty and do feel like they owe Benjamin Umbongo in Kenya a new PlayStation, can opt in to pay. The total amount decided on can be divided amongst these bleeding hearts. I'm sure there will be millions queueing to sign up.
So we should pay financially TWICE ?! We just finished paying off their ancestors freedom… we are also paying emotionally constantly dealing with the anger….. And re lammy if he is Ghanan in his heart and not British that is a huge worry… he is abusing his position to gain financially from us… that 14:20 is not just morally suspect and unparliamentary but surely it is illegal… no ?
People the Carribbean earn on average 3 times more than those living in the African countries from which the slaves came, they have education, healthcare, democracy and the advantages of the English language. What are they asking reparations for?? have I missed something.
I never remember brewer’s outrage at taxpayers paying reparations to those slave owning families, until only very recently. The abolition of slavery came about because it had become unviable as a business, and those invoked in the slave trade who where members of parliament where compensated for their “loss of property” Black people sold black people…..but who created the demand brewer ??
It’s all a great laugh isn’t it! Until you realise who’s running the country now. Starmer, Lammy and even Charlie boy, will roll over eventually and guess who coughs up!!!
If there is any government that wants to pay reparations there needs to be an independent oversight committee or else these funds will never end up in the hands of the people that it was destined for.
Hang on a second, these people were slaves before anyone bought them (which it wasn't Britain buying them btw, it was private entities) and the conditions they got in slavery in the west were much better than the conditions in slavery in Africa. Their lives were improved despite still being slaves, why don't they ask various African countries for reparations?
Okay, I seem to recall Italians conquerung and occupying Britain a couple of thosand years ago. Apparently some of them were even black, and built Hadrians Wall. Let's start with money back from that lot and we'll work forward from there.
Look at what Muhammad ALI said about slavery when he fought in Africa..Rumble in the Jungle....THE SAID IM GLAD MY ANCESTORS WERE ON THAT BOAT...why would he say that?
History well let’s look at it, 1 Billion population in the 1800’s and now 8 Billion. Why because of the industrial revolution which discovered all the inventions that we all and I mean all enjoy today.
Looks like the next biggest industry is giving money away......ahhh....but who's money???....( pssst don't tell anyone but it'll be taxpayers...not the millionaires & billionaires that's for certain).....
Then of course the worst slavers were the muslims. The last law outlawing slavery was Mauretania in 2007. And most of the Atlantic slave trade had muslim involvement. So they should be paying out of oil money
"We demand reparations" Cool mate, so do I then, being as how my ancestors abolished slavery, I want to be paid for abolishing the slave trade. Pay me what I'm owed.
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People who have NEVER owned a slave own NOTHING to people who have NEVER been a slave.
I have NO guilt and never will have, they need to get over it or seek reparations from BLACK slave traders and owners!
We paid when we paid off slavers to release the slaves so it could be done far quicker. We paid with 20,000 sailors life's also. We only finished paying off that debt in 2015 which means every Britain alive today has already paid reparations. This is about greed and nothing more. The sad thing is, we were happy to pay that to end the slave trade back then, it was a point of pride. I bet they would wish they hadn't got involved and left them all to it because if we hadn't done what we had, the slave trade would still more than likely be going on as it currently is in Africa a d we wouldn't being made to feel guilty for something we largely eradicated
We gave the slaves islands, surely that's enough.
it is quite simple- we owe nothing
They owe us thanks tbh.
We’ve been sending them aid for decades…it’ll never be enough…stop the legal aid while the reparation conversation is ongoing.
We owe them nothing, not one penny.
If Lammy is Gharnaian he should sod off and live there....what a waste of space that fool is!
Hes of Guyana decent shame we can't get rid of him he was born here
There's nobody left alive to blame for slavery... why should we pay for the crimes of our ancestral leaders?
But was it even your ancestors? High chance it wasn’t but it’s also a high chance your ancestors were amongst those who were happy to pay towards the abolition of the slave trade. It’s only the elite who were truly involved in it and it was illegal to even have slaves in England at least from the year 1100. If a slave stepped foot on British soil they were considered free because Britain was considered too pure for slavery.
@@scousen3il Good point.
The descendants of slave owners were paid off by UK taxpayers on top of making fortunes from Slavery, so go after those family descendants who still have the wealth. Not from UK Taxpers pockets.
Here are some families that owned slaves in the UK:
Rees Moggs owned slaves in the 1700s
The Williams and Lambert families: Owned estates in Thames Ditton
The Godwin Austen family: Owned estates in Shalford
The More-Molyneux family: Owned estates in Loseley Park
Thomas Lord Onslow: A slave owner
Hannah Barnes: A widow who owned nine slaves in Kingston, Jamaica
The ancestors of novelists George Orwell and Graham Greene: Slave owners
The architect Sir George Gilbert Scott: A slave owner
The Centre for the Study of the Legacies of British Slave-ownership at University College London (UCL) has a database of thousands of slave owners and estates, dating back to 1763
Yep I’ve done my family tree. No posh people there who owned people. We were Ag Labs as most people were. Plus what are we paying with? we don’t have any money! If the king wants to give his gold and treasure that’s on his family. The rich noble families in this country they want to cough up?
Why did you pay reparations to slave owning families until very recently then ?
The ottoman/uslim empire shipped 18,000,000+ slaves to the middle east, while North African slavers setup a base under the ottoman flag on the Isle of Lundy, in the Bristol Channel. Toi raid Britain and European Coastlines as far as Iceland for Christian White Slaves around 6,000,000. Sold by the jewish markets in Venice, Baghdad with artisans sent to work in Tripoli ship yards. The majority of unskilled males, castrated and chained to an oar on a war galley until tipped over the side if they could not roe any more. Reparations, really???
Britain deserves reparations,for the money wasted on you!
spot on
Donald Trump should make an election video of this Labour party stupidity, if you can go to another country and say we have been in government for three months and look what we have achieved.....your country too can go down the crapper if you vote for Kamala?
Can we get money from Denmark, Finland, Sweden, France and Italy then please
finland?
@@captainhidsight Vikings to which Norway would also be on the list which I left off
I have relatives in Barbados. They arrived during WWII and stayed (as did many others) They're much better off than I am (in the UK) and their quality of life there is way better. Should I have to pay 'reparations' to them, or their government?
My ancestors (on the other side) left Ireland during the Potato Famine. Another ancestor drowned off the coast off Africa during the fight against slavery. Who's paying my reparations?
Why are they also not going for the Portugal as they had a bigger had in the slave trade.?
The World’s gone Mad
Yep we had the Iron age, the stone age and right now we are in the WTF?! age.
Why are people like DR shola treated like gurus on the subject of racism by much of the media? I'm sick of it.
We paid, we paid to stop it and we rebuilt these countries with aid and loans.
Stop all travel to ALL Caribbean countries.
Why aren't people educated about who led the way in banning slavery and the fact the industry was created by the natives!
does not fit the white hating agenda
Probably being taught a lie in school to suit an agenda.
The answer lies within your question! It's simply because those calling for reparations are not 'educated people'
Total corrupted greed, that's all it boils down to.
If Starmer caves then we need a MILITARY COUP
We also need paying for the two world wars and for abolishing slavery itself.
Give them the covid jab for free, and then bill them for it in 130yrs time, in the meantime there own families and chieftains and Arab countries can come to a settlement for starting this
Maybe it would also help if they went after the Africans who captured and sold their ancestors into slavery. They wont because they know the answer would a big no, same as why they never go after other countries involved in the slave trade.
Personally i think it should be the other way round, if you come from a country that had slaves you owe reputations to britain for all the money they missed out in banning slavery. We sailed the world enforcing this ban and that wasnt free, not to mention all the profit made off slaves that was missed out on. If the UK had to pay the US for assistance in ww2 i dont see why the UK cant demand money from those it saved
Yep, if my ancestors abolished slavery, I want to be paid and acknowledged for that, for every slave that was free'd by the British Empire.
they'll have us our kids and grandkids paying for this for ever its time to tell them no we are done.
Perhaps there should be a fund for the ancestors of 12yr old boys forced to work in coal mines donkeys years ago
Donkeys are fine, we just make them foreign secretary.
That kind of money would totally bankrupt the whole of the UK, everything economics, businesses and a reason to go work, as all your wages would go back into the coffers as tax.
No amount of money would ever be enough. Also, where do you stop ?How far do you go back just ridiculous
Quite simple, the people do feel guilty and do feel like they owe Benjamin Umbongo in Kenya a new PlayStation, can opt in to pay. The total amount decided on can be divided amongst these bleeding hearts. I'm sure there will be millions queueing to sign up.
They should be told in no uncertain terms to get lost and shut the door on the way out.
We need reparations for freeing them from African slave traders, let them ask for handouts from them.
So we should pay financially TWICE ?! We just finished paying off their ancestors freedom… we are also paying emotionally constantly dealing with the anger…..
And re lammy if he is Ghanan in his heart and not British that is a huge worry… he is abusing his position to gain financially from us… that 14:20 is not just morally suspect and unparliamentary but surely it is illegal… no ?
We should not give them anything anything they are part of the Commonwealth, so they do get money from us anyway
For years we have been supporting these countries through add especially the African and Caribbean countries.
If it happens how much will go missing?
This is madness
People the Carribbean earn on average 3 times more than those living in the African countries from which the slaves came, they have education, healthcare, democracy and the advantages of the English language. What are they asking reparations for?? have I missed something.
They now own a nice island or two as well
I never remember brewer’s outrage at taxpayers paying reparations to those slave owning families, until only very recently.
The abolition of slavery came about because it had become unviable as a business, and those invoked in the slave trade who where members of parliament where compensated for their “loss of property”
Black people sold black people…..but who created the demand brewer ??
It's not about the money.its about the 🤑
Should we push for referendum on this matter?
So why don't they go to the source and ask the African tribes that enslaved their own people and neighbouring tribes?
Will the African colonisers in the Carribbean be giving reparations to what is left of its indigenous people?
It’s all a great laugh isn’t it! Until you realise who’s running the country now. Starmer, Lammy and even Charlie boy, will roll over eventually and guess who coughs up!!!
If there is any government that wants to pay reparations there needs to be an independent oversight committee or else these funds will never end up in the hands of the people that it was destined for.
We owe nothing put the begging bowls away
Do the descendants of tribal slave sellers get a look in?
...So they want to punish us for good logistics?
Everyone is owned something from Everyone, so let's just call it quits
Get nothing off me even tax man gets nothing...
Is it not a bit embarrassing for all these people living on land that's not theirs or their ancestors asking for more help from 'colonials'.
My ancestors were English and Scandinavian
A good reply to that letter would be : I don't understand any of this nonsense. What on earth are you talking about ?
Can those of us with convict hertiage demand reparations too? Or those in the poor house or children working in mines and factories?
Hang on a second, these people were slaves before anyone bought them (which it wasn't Britain buying them btw, it was private entities) and the conditions they got in slavery in the west were much better than the conditions in slavery in Africa. Their lives were improved despite still being slaves, why don't they ask various African countries for reparations?
Okay, I seem to recall Italians conquerung and occupying Britain a couple of thosand years ago. Apparently some of them were even black, and built Hadrians Wall. Let's start with money back from that lot and we'll work forward from there.
I’m so glad I’m 38 and never paid a penny in tax to this island 😊
Seems like we shouldnt of stop slavery when we did lol
Look at what Muhammad ALI said about slavery when he fought in Africa..Rumble in the Jungle....THE SAID IM GLAD MY ANCESTORS WERE ON THAT BOAT...why would he say that?
History well let’s look at it, 1 Billion population in the 1800’s and now 8 Billion. Why because of the industrial revolution which discovered all the inventions that we all and I mean all enjoy today.
Julia, David Lammy is not British just because he was born in Britain, he's African with African lineage. Don't be stupid, keep up
Looks like the next biggest industry is giving money away......ahhh....but who's money???....( pssst don't tell anyone but it'll be taxpayers...not the millionaires & billionaires that's for certain).....
Forgiveness is the Bible's relevant recommendation.
Jesus Christ explained how God deals with individuals who are too stubborn to forgive others.
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Once you say SORRY or APOLOGISE you are then legally compromised .
Then of course the worst slavers were the muslims. The last law outlawing slavery was Mauretania in 2007. And most of the Atlantic slave trade had muslim involvement. So they should be paying out of oil money
If I do call you Julia, will you let me get a word in between your diatribe?
"We demand reparations"
Cool mate, so do I then, being as how my ancestors abolished slavery, I want to be paid for abolishing the slave trade.
Pay me what I'm owed.
Try talking to your own people who sold the slaves in the first place.
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