Lmao as some of you have pointed out, the Koala image at 9:49 is obviously misplaced, since they arent carnivores No clue what I did there, brainfart.mp4 i guess :3
What Players see: Borderline Magical Dragons. What Scientists see: Microbial/Bacterial Symbiosis. I love science man, someone needs to make some fantasy series where all the magic is just microbial symbiosis and bacteria XD And i will now absolutely add most of this stuff to my headcannons because this stuff is just SO cool especially Seregios, Narga, Brachy, Garuga, and surprisingly Cephadrome! Super excited see what they cooked up in that third book!
Kobayashi really did nailed the brachydios part... well, partially what he talked about brachydios slime being a selection factor, and it being used for sexual display is *exactly* the lore of raging brachydios. raging brachy instead of using the regular slime, forms a symbiotic relationship with the flashpoint slime, which is much more unstable and explosive than the regular one. This causes a selection where only the most powerful individuals survive, hence raging brachy is bigger than the regular one, it also causes the shell of brachydios to grow thicker to resist the explosions and turn emerald green. This turning of the shell is also what causes brachydios to seek the flashpoint slime in the first place, as it is used as a form of sexual display over the regular brachys
I imagine the normal slime is also very likely to be a mating display too. If females didn’t gaf about slime quality they wouldn’t really have a reason to consider flashpoint to be a good mating quality either.
I seriously do not get tired of stuff like this. The pseudo-evolutionary realism of Monster Hunter is one of the reasons I love the series and actual scientists being fascinated by it's monsters is the icing on the cake
It's worth mentioning that in Generations Ultimate breaking Gypceros' crest creates a shiny drop that (depending on whether it a low, high, or G rank) is a light, nova, or pure crystal. This also disables its ability to flash
That’s not just Gen Ult. I’ve never played Gen Ult but have done that in either MH4U or the OG generations when I was in middle school when the games first came out
Also notable is how they strike the crest with their beak when creating the flash, sending sparks flying. Seems to be some sort of chemical reaction that produces a lot of light, like oxidising magnesium. An organ which releases small amounts of magnesium(or similar chemical, real or not) plus a crystalline structure that refracts the light, which also creates sparks when struck by the horn, kind of like a fire striker.
Fumihito Muto's theory about gravity zones from part 1 was the final piece I needed to formulate my personal head cannon: The presence of bio-energy is what enables monsters to evolve features which would be too biologically expensive otherwise (elemental organs, etc.), while said gravity zones not only enables them to grow so large, but allows them to do so without sacrificing speed & agility It's also possible that monsters like Amatsu & Yama Tsukami (did I spell that right?) have developed some way to harness both factors in order to fly via levitation I stress that this is just a head cannon though
Considering that we have seen in World that creatures like the Xeno'jiva abd Safi'jiva can absorb and feed on the bio energy, it isnt too far of that other species may have too developed this capability, although on a much smaller scale
@@Fatalis517 The weird gravity also explains how guys like Zinogre can jump around the way they do & how something as big as Safi can fly Seriously, have you seen the size comparisons made by TeaCommonShark?
The trombone analog may not work for Diablos, but there's another "instrument" that _could._ While a bit of a biological stretch, the horns being positioned where they are & how they are could potentially allow them to resonate with the roar to make them like giant, organic tuning forks
I really like these videos, would love to have one for the third book. My favourite takeaway were that cephalos are basically clown fish and the exploration of how dragons would have sex. EnoughForeplayLetsTango/10
I do have one theory of my own about Teostra and Lunastra in monster hunter world, we can see nergigante become very determined to go after the two elder dragons, well, it is known to hunt elder dragons, and use them as its main sustenance more than likely nergigante knows hunting two at once must be a great risk even with its own extreme regeneration. so the reward must be worth the risk my best guess is during their mating period Teostra and Lunastra must lower their temperatures to a significant enough degree to where procreation is safe. This could be why nergigante is so adamant about hunting the two it knows they are in a vulnerable state.
To be sure that could make sense more so because of they bound nova where they completly relise they heat so that would have sense to be perfect moment for both mating teo with luna and negigante attack
Nargacuga having night and infra-red vision? Already made one of my favorite monsters even more badass. So Najarala is a compilation of different snake types....couple that with the Naga archetype, and you've got quite a beast. 56:57: And we've seen that happen a LOT of times during those hunts.... 57:30: Ah, the original spider of Monster Hunter. Also, can you imagine the size of the webs those things could spin? Also, PLEASE DO BOOK 3! I'm really looking forward to the scientific breakdown of World/Iceborne's monsters.
Muto's stuff on the plesioth and cephadrome is great, easily my favorite part of the video hearing the idea of cephalos competing to femanize themselves into a cephadrome
9:49 ah yes. The koala. Famously carnivorous... oh wait... nope... they almost exclusively eat eucalyptus leaves... despite very clearly looking like predators, what with the front-facing eyes among other things...
That’s funny that Kawakami mention that the Yian Kut-ku has a gizzard. In Monster Hunter freedom 2 when you do the treasure quests and you slay a Kut-ku, you will get gizzards as a drop.
The idea of young juvenile Yan Garugas all congregating at the top of trees like a murder of crows sounds absolutely horrific (also you would NOT be able to sleep if you lived near their forest before they all split apart and go solo)
I can’t wait for the ecology of monster hunter the 3rd generation. I believe the games were portable 3rd, tri, and 3 ultimate. Which we got a lot of monsters like the introduction of fanged wyverns, leviathans, and brute wyverns
Namielle sounds very similar to the speculated mechanics of Chameleos' invisiability. I can only assume that the MH team took some direct inspiration there.
Im just starting the the Seregios one has me cackling. Explaining why it got wrecked so bad in the preview footage for Sunbreak. But the scale pattern implying backwards flight is amazing to consider and makes me want to look more closely at its attack patterns.
Thank you oceanz so much, you've genuinely helped me get over my problems with sleeping at night with you videos, I feel like I'm actually sitting here immersed in the words and your voice and the way you deliver the ecology makes me feel at ease 💜
Huge Ceadeus fan here, so I'm unfortunately gonna have to step in and dismiss some of Ishigaki's theorizing here with established in-game knowledge. For one, we know Ceadeus still have regular young, specifically because Nakarkos is known to feed on them. And we know the young are much smaller and weaker than adult Ceadeus, because adult Ceadeus reverse this predation and start preying on Nakarkos themselves. Secondly, it's very unlikely that Ceadeus's beard is a modified Frilled Shark frill or a mass of external gills - because we know Ceadeus is an air-breathing creature that does not have gills. Their need for air is the reason they're known to very rarely surface. Though they are able to stay down in the depths for months, they do need to breathe air. Lastly, a fun bit of info that was left out of this video - the reason Ceadeus is able to stay down underwater for such a long time without surfacing for air. On top of producing bioluminescence, the algae that Ceadeus cultivates in its beard also produces oxygen, as most plants do. The Ceadeus uses this oxygen to top off its air supply, and thus only have to surface when its oxygen needs surpass both its massive lungs' supply and the output of the algae.
@@Rolasta From secondary sources, yes. It was stated in a Nintendo Dream article that is seemingly impossible to find nowadays, unfortunately. But Nakarkos and Ceadeus share a relationship similar to sperm whales and giant squids.
A flock of Yian-Garuga sounds terrifying to be honest. Seeing how normal hunters would probably die when facing one. Flash Hunter really helped me see how big of a hop in danger Yian-kut ku and Garuga is.
Watching both the videos made me think of why such diverse and extreme feature can exist in MH world. In the last video the topic of gravitational zones was discussed. It made me think that: 1) Maybe the planet of MH isn't a geoid but more of a ellipsoid. This would make sense why some monsters can grow so large. The planet is most likely an ellipsoid with a skewed axis. This allows a somewhat different gravitational and magnetic pull in different regions. 2) Okay this might sound more far fetched, but I think the solar system/star system MH planet is a part of exists inside of/closer to a Nebula. The planet in its early stages most likely collected loads of stardust while flying through the nebula which would make sense why the planet has such an active energy flow. Also, the plants and early organisms most likely were exposed to high amounts of these stardust before the strengthening of its ozone layer. This might explain how these absurd monsters can seemingly survive on their diets and habitats. Also, fun headcanon, I think Valstrax's jets might be highly concentrated space dust it collects while flying around the edges of stratosphere where it might be absorbing nutrients and minerals from the space dust and discarding waste products through its vents.
Why wouldn't Khezu just use electromagnetic fields like a sharks ampullae of lorenzini? Electromag fields would be just as quick if not faster, work in tandem with it's ability to shock and zap too
It is now my headcanon that Cephadrome is the trans icon we all need. Thank you Oceaniz and Muto-san. She transitioned so hard that she made it into a competition that she's winning.
Damn, I didn't expect this video so soon considering how recently you got the second book. Nice! Now, let's see what that trans rights Cephadrome whole thing is about Edit: damn, Cephadrome really *does* say trans rights! Cool!
A star walks into a black hole but doesn't seen phased. The black hole then turns to the star and says, "I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation."
Lmao as some of you have pointed out, the Koala image at 9:49 is obviously misplaced, since they arent carnivores
No clue what I did there, brainfart.mp4 i guess :3
what do you mean, everybody knows dropbears are obligate carnivores ! which is why they can be so dangerous.
Everyone has those, no biggie
@@Tacos_Sauce_Zeadangerous critters they are
That is clearly an evil drop bear I don’t know what you mean
That's a seal
5:37 Seregios mainly takes off mid combat backwards, so all of these made speculations seem pretty spot on
I love how the scientists when they run into an oddity that is hard to explain immediately go to bacteria.
Don’t forget everything is also a crab 😅
What Players see: Borderline Magical Dragons.
What Scientists see: Microbial/Bacterial Symbiosis.
I love science man, someone needs to make some fantasy series where all the magic is just microbial symbiosis and bacteria XD
And i will now absolutely add most of this stuff to my headcannons because this stuff is just SO cool especially Seregios, Narga, Brachy, Garuga, and surprisingly Cephadrome!
Super excited see what they cooked up in that third book!
That’s most things in Mh like Brachidios having slime mold the lives on its shell mainly its pounders 😅 or famously Gore Magala and Geizmagorm
Kobayashi really did nailed the brachydios part... well, partially
what he talked about brachydios slime being a selection factor, and it being used for sexual display is *exactly* the lore of raging brachydios. raging brachy instead of using the regular slime, forms a symbiotic relationship with the flashpoint slime, which is much more unstable and explosive than the regular one. This causes a selection where only the most powerful individuals survive, hence raging brachy is bigger than the regular one, it also causes the shell of brachydios to grow thicker to resist the explosions and turn emerald green. This turning of the shell is also what causes brachydios to seek the flashpoint slime in the first place, as it is used as a form of sexual display over the regular brachys
I imagine the normal slime is also very likely to be a mating display too. If females didn’t gaf about slime quality they wouldn’t really have a reason to consider flashpoint to be a good mating quality either.
I seriously do not get tired of stuff like this. The pseudo-evolutionary realism of Monster Hunter is one of the reasons I love the series and actual scientists being fascinated by it's monsters is the icing on the cake
The observations about Kushala’s lungs creating cold air help explains (at least to me) why they’re classified as an *ice* monster.
It's worth mentioning that in Generations Ultimate breaking Gypceros' crest creates a shiny drop that (depending on whether it a low, high, or G rank) is a light, nova, or pure crystal. This also disables its ability to flash
That’s not just Gen Ult. I’ve never played Gen Ult but have done that in either MH4U or the OG generations when I was in middle school when the games first came out
Also notable is how they strike the crest with their beak when creating the flash, sending sparks flying. Seems to be some sort of chemical reaction that produces a lot of light, like oxidising magnesium. An organ which releases small amounts of magnesium(or similar chemical, real or not) plus a crystalline structure that refracts the light, which also creates sparks when struck by the horn, kind of like a fire striker.
Fumihito Muto's theory about gravity zones from part 1 was the final piece I needed to formulate my personal head cannon:
The presence of bio-energy is what enables monsters to evolve features which would be too biologically expensive otherwise (elemental organs, etc.), while said gravity zones not only enables them to grow so large, but allows them to do so without sacrificing speed & agility
It's also possible that monsters like Amatsu & Yama Tsukami (did I spell that right?) have developed some way to harness both factors in order to fly via levitation
I stress that this is just a head cannon though
Considering that we have seen in World that creatures like the Xeno'jiva abd Safi'jiva can absorb and feed on the bio energy, it isnt too far of that other species may have too developed this capability, although on a much smaller scale
@@Fatalis517 The weird gravity also explains how guys like Zinogre can jump around the way they do & how something as big as Safi can fly
Seriously, have you seen the size comparisons made by TeaCommonShark?
@@JurassicDaikaijuI’m surprised is how fucking massive Plesioth is
@@TheTrueUltimateGenLifeform The Hip-check Fish King holds no bounds 😂
8:35 ok but what if it was the lower horns? They dont break at all and they could have multiple air pockets inside maybe causing the same effect?
The trombone analog may not work for Diablos, but there's another "instrument" that _could._ While a bit of a biological stretch, the horns being positioned where they are & how they are could potentially allow them to resonate with the roar to make them like giant, organic tuning forks
Man the cephadrome section is really interesting
My boi Cephadrome became my girl.
True queen!
I really like these videos, would love to have one for the third book.
My favourite takeaway were that cephalos are basically clown fish and the exploration of how dragons would have sex.
EnoughForeplayLetsTango/10
It's always so cool to see them trying to flesh out more monster lore while learning real life features of animals in the process!
OHHHH so that's where the "Enough Foreplay, Let's Tango" line went
I do have one theory of my own about Teostra and Lunastra in monster hunter world, we can see nergigante become very determined to go after the two elder dragons, well, it is known to hunt elder dragons, and use them as its main sustenance more than likely nergigante knows hunting two at once must be a great risk even with its own extreme regeneration. so the reward must be worth the risk my best guess is during their mating period Teostra and Lunastra must lower their temperatures to a significant enough degree to where procreation is safe. This could be why nergigante is so adamant about hunting the two it knows they are in a vulnerable state.
To be sure that could make sense more so because of they bound nova where they completly relise they heat so that would have sense to be perfect moment for both mating teo with luna and negigante attack
Nargacuga having night and infra-red vision? Already made one of my favorite monsters even more badass.
So Najarala is a compilation of different snake types....couple that with the Naga archetype, and you've got quite a beast.
56:57: And we've seen that happen a LOT of times during those hunts....
57:30: Ah, the original spider of Monster Hunter. Also, can you imagine the size of the webs those things could spin?
Also, PLEASE DO BOOK 3! I'm really looking forward to the scientific breakdown of World/Iceborne's monsters.
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Evolving from a prey species would also explain Seregios' hyperaggression...
As Casual Geographic rightly notes, most prey animals suffer generational trauma from being constantly plotted against
Muto's stuff on the plesioth and cephadrome is great, easily my favorite part of the video hearing the idea of cephalos competing to femanize themselves into a cephadrome
That baby brachydios was way cuter than I expected
9:49 ah yes. The koala. Famously carnivorous... oh wait... nope... they almost exclusively eat eucalyptus leaves... despite very clearly looking like predators, what with the front-facing eyes among other things...
Koala's are just bad at existing though so idk how much you can judge them for not lining up with what they clearly evolved to be.
8:30 that could be in the darkened rings that we see. It's more of a pores airways than hollow tunnels, giving the higher pitch we hear in game
That’s funny that Kawakami mention that the Yian Kut-ku has a gizzard.
In Monster Hunter freedom 2 when you do the treasure quests and you slay a Kut-ku, you will get gizzards as a drop.
Oh my god the baby brachy at 15:40
I have never considered the brachydios species to so heavily emphasise sex
With how brutal he is in combat and with the existence of the Raging Brachy being almost twice as big i think it is weirdly fitting and accurate.
funnily enough, that's exactly the reason why raging brachy even exist in the first place
Doesn't surprise me, I've always thought Brachy's horn & pounders look kinda... phalic
Maybe the Guildmarm knew more about Brachydios than we thought
Really funny to me that the cephadrome is formed by a competition of who Slays and Serves better in the pack of cephalos.
The idea of young juvenile Yan Garugas all congregating at the top of trees like a murder of crows sounds absolutely horrific (also you would NOT be able to sleep if you lived near their forest before they all split apart and go solo)
I can’t wait for the ecology of monster hunter the 3rd generation. I believe the games were portable 3rd, tri, and 3 ultimate. Which we got a lot of monsters like the introduction of fanged wyverns, leviathans, and brute wyverns
Imagine in wilds, flock of Yian Garuga
Namielle sounds very similar to the speculated mechanics of Chameleos' invisiability. I can only assume that the MH team took some direct inspiration there.
Im just starting the the Seregios one has me cackling. Explaining why it got wrecked so bad in the preview footage for Sunbreak. But the scale pattern implying backwards flight is amazing to consider and makes me want to look more closely at its attack patterns.
I love how he turn a monster hunter to Toriko in just one minute at Qurupeco 😭
Thank you oceanz so much, you've genuinely helped me get over my problems with sleeping at night with you videos, I feel like I'm actually sitting here immersed in the words and your voice and the way you deliver the ecology makes me feel at ease 💜
After the reveal of the Kutty Gang for Wilds, I did not need to hear the words "yeah Yian Garuga like probably flock together"
Bruh imagine a cut scene of the hunter trying to catch a Yian Garuga just to be cornered by another one, and them another one, and them...
I'd rather Old Fatty just show up and smite me at that point.@@joaomatheus5267
YESSSSS IM EARLY FOR ONCE!!! I LOVE THIS GAME AND THESE SERIES SO MUCH!!! PLEASE CONTINUE THE GREAT WORK!!!
oh hell yeah brother it's a long one, dad has returned with the MILK
Huge Ceadeus fan here, so I'm unfortunately gonna have to step in and dismiss some of Ishigaki's theorizing here with established in-game knowledge.
For one, we know Ceadeus still have regular young, specifically because Nakarkos is known to feed on them. And we know the young are much smaller and weaker than adult Ceadeus, because adult Ceadeus reverse this predation and start preying on Nakarkos themselves.
Secondly, it's very unlikely that Ceadeus's beard is a modified Frilled Shark frill or a mass of external gills - because we know Ceadeus is an air-breathing creature that does not have gills. Their need for air is the reason they're known to very rarely surface. Though they are able to stay down in the depths for months, they do need to breathe air.
Lastly, a fun bit of info that was left out of this video - the reason Ceadeus is able to stay down underwater for such a long time without surfacing for air. On top of producing bioluminescence, the algae that Ceadeus cultivates in its beard also produces oxygen, as most plants do. The Ceadeus uses this oxygen to top off its air supply, and thus only have to surface when its oxygen needs surpass both its massive lungs' supply and the output of the algae.
Nakarkos hunting ceadeus is canon?
@@Rolasta From secondary sources, yes. It was stated in a Nintendo Dream article that is seemingly impossible to find nowadays, unfortunately. But Nakarkos and Ceadeus share a relationship similar to sperm whales and giant squids.
@@BaronSterling I think one of the art books has a picture of a Nakarkos trying to eat a young Ceadeus too
@@BaronSterling nice!!! Thank you
I love both documentaries AND monster hunter. This is hot stuff for my brain. Meep it up Hunter!
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Part 2?
That’s cool idk what else to say really
that cephalos theory is so cool wtf
A flock of Yian-Garuga sounds terrifying to be honest. Seeing how normal hunters would probably die when facing one. Flash Hunter really helped me see how big of a hop in danger Yian-kut ku and Garuga is.
Lol'd at the Khezu reaction
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I need part 3 yesterday mate
Love it when smart people talk about fiction. Really makes you think on if these type of places can exist.
He is back, we have been bleassed
Now he rest for a few months
(Hopefully Oceamiz will bring the 3 generation)
Didnt know the brachydios were basically stand users. Good to know
The real monsters in the game are the incredible symbiotic bacterias
Also incredible video, love it!!!!
Watching both the videos made me think of why such diverse and extreme feature can exist in MH world. In the last video the topic of gravitational zones was discussed. It made me think that:
1) Maybe the planet of MH isn't a geoid but more of a ellipsoid. This would make sense why some monsters can grow so large. The planet is most likely an ellipsoid with a skewed axis. This allows a somewhat different gravitational and magnetic pull in different regions.
2) Okay this might sound more far fetched, but I think the solar system/star system MH planet is a part of exists inside of/closer to a Nebula. The planet in its early stages most likely collected loads of stardust while flying through the nebula which would make sense why the planet has such an active energy flow. Also, the plants and early organisms most likely were exposed to high amounts of these stardust before the strengthening of its ozone layer. This might explain how these absurd monsters can seemingly survive on their diets and habitats.
Also, fun headcanon, I think Valstrax's jets might be highly concentrated space dust it collects while flying around the edges of stratosphere where it might be absorbing nutrients and minerals from the space dust and discarding waste products through its vents.
The thing about Nathan Cougar infrared vision is metal. That's so cool.
What I'm getting from this is that we should get a Remodrome someday.
I'd love to see a part 3!!
I was trying to watch only a section of this video for a time, but I cant stop after the first 5 min !😂
Yeah Science!
Yes Yes Yes please do the 3rd book and if they discussed them in there, I would love to hear about Legiana
Why wouldn't Khezu just use electromagnetic fields like a sharks ampullae of lorenzini? Electromag fields would be just as quick if not faster, work in tandem with it's ability to shock and zap too
Wyverians are fanged beasts, you can compare wyverians with the ape type fanged beasts and look for similar attributes
can't wait for PART 3
Man I love this series so much
Ofcorse we would like part 3 we . We need it if you dont do it nobody will.
Loved to hear what the 3rd book has to say
2:33 Funnily enough, tigers have spots on the back of their ears which *might* function as a deterrent for potential predators.
Why am I just learning that Kushala has two skeletons. This was probably mentioned before but it’s news to me
seregios was always my favorite wyvern to hunt. the bleed was annoying but fun.
Now that you mentioned triceratops, you know what would be cool? A blos crossbreed with three horns
Please make part 3!!!!!
Christ bless you, please do the third volume. These books are so cool!
It is now my headcanon that Cephadrome is the trans icon we all need. Thank you Oceaniz and Muto-san.
She transitioned so hard that she made it into a competition that she's winning.
I love a third video of this!
Damn, I didn't expect this video so soon considering how recently you got the second book. Nice! Now, let's see what that trans rights Cephadrome whole thing is about
Edit: damn, Cephadrome really *does* say trans rights! Cool!
Yes, I must see what they have to say about Bazinga-carpet-bomber-goose
26:31 u better give us a hybrid between Yian and Yian Kutzuku Capcom
id love the 3rd book as well!
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absolutely fabulous video, but PLEASE make ur videos louder T-T
but very good video well done
The infrared theory for the nargacuga might make sense since Nargacuga cant escape pitfalls when enraged
Basically how every monster in MH works according to Mori-san:
symbiotic bacteria.
When a pink rathian meets a blue kukku...
Hi Oceaniz. I was wondering what happened to your Deviljho documentary?
Id like to see a video on the third set
Out of place zoologist mention. Whens the collab?
it's not the size that matters, it's how you use it - brachydios, probably
So cool, need more! MORE!!
14:13 why that piece of wood goes trough the Pachycephalosaurus's head?
Yoo the stories combat theme
To be honest here the Cephadrome being the only female while the rest of the Cephalos pack being males actually caught me off guard here.
So basically whoever made these monster designs needs some raise?
10000% make a video on the iceborn monsters too
these scientist are amazing...
Spitting cobras kinda spray a mist of venom it's not poison but close enough
I conclude that the key for fantastical features is microbiological symbiosis
A star walks into a black hole but doesn't seen phased. The black hole then turns to the star and says, "I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation."
im still waiting for that wyverian eggs explanations
1:17:47 actually, it's said that nakarkos feeds on ceadeus babies, but maybe it's just a word to talk about young ceadeus
Hey, when are you going to do the black dragons?
Quropeco would be great fried with lemon. Make an excellent Peking Duck.
Yeah, science beach!
Poor steve is a ex-bully victim going on its revenge arc