I'm really not shopping for lav mics right now and probably won't in the near future. Just came to watch and like because your reviews have always been the best I could find on TH-cam. Thanks for helping so many of us!
My voice produces a rather nasty resonance with almost all lavalier microphones when they're mounted to my chest. But good news - a little bit of EQ makes it sound really nice, including the W.Lav Pro and Micro. Hear a sample with EQ at 07:31
@@Hexspa 960Hz - ish. But the best way to find it for your voice, mic, and location is to boost by about 6dB, set the Q to about 20, and then sweep across the frequency spectrum until you hear the midrange problem get even worse. Then cut there by 2-4dB and widen the cut to a Q of about 2.
@@curtisjudd So you're doing a relatively wide, shallow cut? You ever try dynamic EQ? Do you use the HPF on your mics? Sorry for all the questions but I reference your videos every time :)
@@Hexspa I often apply a HP filter at 50Hz in post though we didn't do that here so that you could hear the audio directly out of the recorder. I don't use dynamic EQ just because I don't have a dynamic EQ plugin as yet. Yes, I usually apply a relatively wide, shallow cut to manage unpleasant resonances - that way they generally sound fairly smooth and natural.
@@curtisjudd Ok. Yes, I noticed that you have more bass in your voice over than I had in my recent vids. If you're curious about dynamic EQ, the MAutoDynamicEQ is good but doesn't seem to work that well with Premiere Pro - though that can be related to me running integrated graphics and the way Melda does their GUI. They have 50% off sales all the time so watch for those, if you're interested. Waves has one, the F6 I believe, if you like them. Anyway, I tried your curve and Q=2 is actually pretty narrow don't you think? Regardless, you have great sound and I'll continue to try out your advice and reference your excellent work! Cheers.
Hi Curtis. I am a blind viewer, and I have trouble telling which mic is which when you are doing comparisons. If you could please make it verbally clear when doing comparison reviewing like this it would be extremely helpful. You could either announce the mic before the sample, or get whomever is speaking to identify which mic they are using. Thanks for all the fantastically helpful work.
Thank you Curtis for all your great content. I've learned so much from your TH-cam channel! I've been looking at the Countryman B6 but these W.Lav Pro and W.Lav Micro lavalier microphones are looking awesome.
FWIW, I always prefer hearing your voice as it is at the end of the review e.g. @13:25 Even since tinkering with recording as a teenager, I went for the flat, natural tones. I read somewhere eons ago that the microphone is like the lens on a camera. There are lots of choices but it's the first thing your content comes through and affects everything happening from then on. Question: Have you covered somewhere else what you do with excess lavalier cable between the capsule and where the belt pack is? I did see the video about hiding certain lavs in a button hole, but knowing where to put excess cable so it's secure and less prone to getting damaged would be good. Keep up the series Curtis. It's the most authoritative information I've found.
For corporate work where we're just shooting head and shoulder, talking head types of shots, I generally just tuck the excess into the pocket or waistband of the talent. For narrative, usually in the waistband as well, often secured with tape so that it doesn't fall out.
Amazing Review! I was wondering, since it has been about a year, if the lav's have held up or if they were as fragile as you feared they'd be? I'm looking at buying a pair of the pro's for a short film where the main character has to be running around and gets thrown around a little, so I need to make sure that the lav's I get are pretty sturdy.
Thanks for the detailed review. I finally got my w lav pro and really happy with the clarity. The design is unique, looks professional and beautiful. The microdot connector is also one positive value for this mic. It can be fitted to various recorder.
I'm certainly no audio pro, but this mic, as well as the Countryman, both sounded a bit nasally to me, or thin, or lacking that rich, full body sound I normally hear from the reviews that Curtis does. Not so bad that I would not buy either of them (far better than simply speaking into your camera with no microphones), but the sound is just not there for me and is off to my untrained ears. Then, with the EQ on and applied, that made a big positive difference to my ears. Much better.
Hi R. S., yes, that is due to the timbre of my voice - almost all lavalier microphones pick up this very prominent resonance at 1kHz and in many cases, another around 2kHz. This includes pro-level mics like the Sanken COS-11D which are widely used on the biggest film and TV productions. So EQ is always needed on recordings of my voice with lavalier microphones - mainly due to my voice and the fact that the mics are worn on the body.
Great review Curtis! So in terms of wireless lavs, any newer ones coming out in the near future that could be game changers? What do you think is the best at this moment for higher end wireless mics? I watched your other reviews including the Rode Wireless Go and Picogear (which just got in stock). I was thinking of hooking the Tascam DR10 to the Rode that way I have a "back up", but I haven't pulled the trigger yet since I'd need two Rode mics/receivers on the camera on the gimbal and it starts to get clunky.
Hey Dr. Reyes, good to hear from you, thanks. There's always Lectrosonics, Wisycom, Zaxcom, and Audio Ltd. on the pro end. Very expensive, but very reliable and they all sound very good - these are what are used in the big budget film and TV productions. I'm not aware of any new pro-sumer or consumer wireless systems coming that really change things in any substantial way.
If I am not mistaken the SPL of the W.Lav Pro is actually 110. I'm not sure if it was mentioned in a video of Sound Speeds or reddit. 110 is written down in the manual although every site on the internet states it is 130. As mentioned, this could be wrong. But I think it's worth pointing out.
Thanks for another excellent review.I've just watched one of Allen Williams review on Deity's lav and every time I watch one of his reviews I have to watch one of your reviews to calm down and relax 😃
Yes, several. Here's the most comprehensive one with Simon Bysche of Ursa Straps - a company which makes products for hiding lavaliers. But he doesn't just talk about their products, he covers the pros and cons of all different approaches to hiding lavaliers: th-cam.com/video/RxcQz4VFGXA/w-d-xo.html
Hi Curtis. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of the VT 500 water, but I then found this one. Easy to buy in Thailand, and also waterproof. Adding my very good experience with Deity S-mic 2 shotgun, my only question is, being a year later, how does the silicone cable hold up?
Thanks for this review, it's helped me to be better informed. However, these mics haven't yet made an appearance in India, so I've got to wait a while..... 😊
Nice show .. I have a couple of pre-Diety lav mics ... they sound good and have been in use since mid 2018 with no issues. After this experience, I would tend to trust their build quality ... time will tell. Good show!
Thanks for the insightful review. I've been looking for a good mid-tier lav mic. I would like to be able to plug it into the XLR input of my Zoom H5. I contacted Deity and they said this adapter would work: YPA XLR to Microdot adapter. But the adapter itself costs $50, which is kind of absurd when the W.Lav Pro costs $100. I didn't want the wireless part, just a lav mic that connects via XLR. If the W.Lav Pro + adapter is $150+, it seems like the Countryman B3 XLR lav is just a bit more. It seems tricky to find an XLR lav, not that many out there unless you want to use the adapter that Deity recommended.
Yes, not a lot of XLR terminated lavalier mics out there, presumably because people generally use lavaliers with wireless systems instead of audio interfaces.
For RF interference, make a phone call on my mobile and play back a video at the same time and move it close to the microphone body and cable. For EMF, I move a power cable with current flowing through it near the microphone cable and body.
Curious as to why you'd put the transmitter on an ankle in that situation rather than a belt or small of the back? What would the advantage be? When you can see the transmitter on TV shows, they'll be on their back.
Hi Mark, It is usually less noticeable on the ankle, certainly when the talent is wearing long pants. If you hide them in the small of the back on an Ursa strap or Neopax or similer, they can show through the shirt on a shot of the talent's back.
@@richardweddle3408 Some, but not a lot. The trick is that I've got some higher end mics that get most of the use...but I'd say they were used 5 or 6 times. I'm pretty careful with my gear so it wasn't an acid test.
AS MY FIRST LAP MIC AT THE BEGINNING STAGE FOR VOICEOVER WHICH ONE SHOULD I PIC BETWEEN (DEITY W LAV PRO MIC AND ITS V LAV MIC). I know it has a cost difference but, if I have to pick, which one will be a better investment for now.
Hey Curtis. I currently own a Zoom F8 and a few Sony UWP d-11 lavs. I'm considering getting some Sanken Cos-11s but was wondering if you think these W.Lav Pro mics are a solid, cheaper alternative. Would either of these mics sound good even if I am only using an F8 and the Sony wireless lavs? I mostly do indie shorts and features, but can't quite afford lectrosonics or a proper sound devices recorder. Thanks and keep up the amazing work.
They are certainly less expensive though they don't seem as durable. That's one of the things about the COS-11D, it is probably the most durable Lavalier microphone I've ever used. Sound quality wise, the DEITY W.Lav mics are quite good.
Hi Curtis, thank you so much for your videos, I've always found your reviews objective and professional. I have a quick question, sorry if you already talked about this matter. I bought the Deity Connect System but the lavs that came with it, as you may know, sound bad (that was expected). I wonder if it's possible to use a better lav like the MKE2 with the Deity Connect Transmitter and receiver? I would like to buy the W.Lav Pro but I haven't found it anywhere in Europe and I live in Sweden. If you believe that I should look for another Lav alternative I'm all ears. I bought a lot of gear based on your reviews and I'm very happy with the decisions I've taken. Have a nice week!
Hi Guillermo, the MKE2 wired for Sennheiser Evolution wireless (3.5mm TRS locking) should work. I don't have one on hand here to test and be 100% certain, but it should work.
I'm thinking on buying two pro units to use in dirty situation(mud and water on reality shows)instead my beloved sankens and dpa lavs. Do you think this deity pro mics will hold that?
Hi Curtis! I'm Days before my A10 Purchase and I was afraid of the noise floor heard in this video but then you put on the 4160 and *there is literally no noise floor! So awesome!* I'm getting the Cos-11PT for my A10's. Would you recommend this marring for the lowest noise floor? I'm looking to maximize my SnR with the Cos-11, would you recommend any another mic that is better for maximum SnR? (With the A10's) Thank you and best,
Hi CUISINED, I haven't used the COS-11D with my A10 system as mine are all wired for Sennheiser 3.5mm locking. But it should be a fine combination. Best wishes!
Thanks, as always, for another fine review. I've been lusting for a COS11D, but ran across this review and was thinking the Diety W.Lav Pro may be an affordable alternative. The silicone cable looks rather bad. Considering how lav mics are handled, I think that was either a cost cutting step or just a design oversight that could give these mics a bad reputation. I am curious to see how they hold up before investing in one.
Yup, even the "pro grade" lavs should be regarded as disposables over the medium term. When you're using them day in, day out, they've got a tough life.
Great review as always. Your lighting looks amazing in this video, I'd love to see a behind the scenes shot of it. When I'm setting up interviews, I typically have a 2nd camera trying to get a wide shot so I can't get my lights close for really dramatic lighting.
Thanks Joel. I've got a lighting tutorial coming up in the next couple of weeks where we'll show what we did here in terms of lighting. Depending on camera angles, it should be possible to get this look working with 2 cameras.
@@curtisjudd that's great, I can't wait!! I'm primarily a photographer, but since COVID-19 I've been booking a lot more corporate videos. With the R5 coming out, I'll finally have two 4k cameras for cropping multiple perspectives in post.
I have been trying to figure out if the fan in the Aputure 300 series presents a significant issue for audio at full power. Based on this video it does appear to be a concern. I guess distance is a factor but if it showed up here it is troubling.
I'm curious if the locking 3.5mm lav mics will work on just a plug-in 3.5mm plug. I would like to get this mic but will need to be able to use it on my 3.5mm camera and action camera plug-ins. I can never find any info on this anywhere.
great, the Wlav Pro actually sounded quite nice. Now I couldn't figure out somehow if this would be compatible with the 3-pin locable Lemo for SK6000 or MTP40S. I think you've had a microdot converter there for A10 I'm guessing uses 3pin lemo? Just wondering, sounds like a great mic for more tight budget shooting. My guess it's a DA3L adapter
Hi Curtis, I'm leaving a comment almost two years later! In the video you voiced concerns about the durability of the sheathing of these Deity lavs. At this point have you given them enough usage to comment further on that aspect?
Hi Curtis, I'm thinking of the possibility of upgrading the lavaliers that come with my Comica BoomX-U with the W.Lav Pro. Other than needing a 3.5mm TRS adapter, do you think it will work with the Comica? Thanks!
Hey Curtis I know this may be off topic from the video, but I wanted to ask I'm looking to get my first recorder and I was debating from choosing the zoom h4n pro and a tascam dr 60mk2. (I have an NTG2 mic) I know you have voiced concern of the combination of the NTG and the zoom so I was wondering if the tascam was any better?
I really want to get one of these. I know they are made for more pro applications but do you have any idea how I can get them to work with non-locking 3.5mm inputs like on the Rode Wireless Go or the 3.5mm inputs on Zoom handheld recorders?
Curtis Judd I actually got in touch with them and was told that it probably wouldn’t work. I also can’t find any 3rd party microdot to non-locking 3.5mm adapter. I guess I’m out of luck. Anyway, Thanks.
Thank you for directly comparing these with the more expensive "pro" options. Would you say that these are a meaningful step up in audio quality compared with other options at or less than about US$100? Also, they offer a micro-dot to locking 3.5mm. Will the locking 3.5mm fit into non-locking jacks? I'm thinking of the Rode Wireless Go as an example.
I think so. I've gotten out of the business of reviewing every $20 lavalier microphone which is sold on Amazon, so I'm not exactly an authority on the topic of sub $100 lavalier mics, but amongst those I've used, the W.Lav Pro and Micro seem like a nice step up - not lacking capture across the frequency range which is important to dialogue audio. I don't have the DEITY locking 3.5mm on hand to confirm, but my experience has been with most 3.5mm locking connectors, you can attach them to inputs without locking threads.
I'd be interested to see how the cable jacketing holds up to being colored for theatrical productions, but until they make a low sensitivity version the theater world is going to stick to Countryman and Point Source mics for cheaper productions and DPA or Sennheiser for the better budgeted shows. @Curtis, what is your thoughts on the strength of the microdot-to-adapter connection? It looks stronger than the Point Source X-Connector.
Good question re: coloring for theater. I think you're right, they're mainly targeting the film market vs. theater with these. The microdot to adapter connection seems as robust as those on my B6, DPA, and Twinplex. Will have a better sense once the production world gets rolling again. Best wishes!
Curtis, do you know if any inexpensive recorders (Zoom maybe) that can simultaneously record line-in AND onboard mics? Can confirm the Sony ICD-UX570 does NOT.
@@curtisjudd under $100 would be amazing. $200 should be an easy one. Maybe more importantly is what would this be called in the specs so I know what to look for? (Teach a man to fish)
@@MojoPapiFPV There's no standard terminology for it as far as I'm aware. The ZOOM H4n and higher can record from the two XLR inputs and the 3.5mm mic input at the same time. It is not line-in, it is a mic input. Hope that helps!
hi! im planning to get this. just wondering if you will be doing a 'one year later review'. cant wait to know if the silicon shield will be of any issue :)
Great review, and they sound pretty good. Any comments or tests directly on cable noise? Is the silicone slippery enough to avoid scratching on simple movements (like holding the tip of the mic and running something up the cable to the tip to measure when it starts sounding scratchy)? You did some simple scratch tests, but the scratch could've been related to mounting. Trying to determine the source. Thanks again, curtis.
Curtis, The sub-$100 UK Micbooster EM 172XLR lavalier has a f.r. of 20 to 20k Hz, signal/noise ratio of 80 dB at 1kHz, and self noise of 14 dB-A...whereas the same specs for the Shure Twinplex TL48 are 20 to 20kHz, signal/noise ratio of 69.5 dB, and self noise of 24.5 dB. While the micbooster microphone is larger than the Shure, the specs look superior. What gives? Thanks for any insight you could provide.
Hi Paul, specs are tricky things. They do not tell the whole story. I especially find the 20Hz to 20kHz to be nearly useless, as one example. That means almost nothing from a practical point of view. Even the frequency response charts most microphone manufacturers include in their specs don't translate very well to reality, in my experience. Almost all of them look like a flat line up through at least 5kHz, but when I actually use them, they sound very different through that range with the same voice producing very different resonances at different frequencies. Often, it seems like the budget gear flexes on their specs but don't necessarily deliver or have a fair bit of copy to copy variation. This is why I like to do sound samples as that helps to tell the story at a practical level.
Build quality or sound quality? I'd go with the pro for its wider dynamic range unless you need that tiny size of the micro for hiding on talent with form fitting wardrobe.
Thanks Curtis. I feel like I have a good idea if they sound now. What I had not seen before and concerns me greatly, was the movement on the cable sheathing. That was unexpected.
This is a great review Curtis, and worth the wait. As soon as things start to pick up again I'll be purchasing these soon. I still don't understand why after all this time Deity continues to include that tape. I heard it's some kind of duct tape.
Curtis, i discovered you years ago and finally found you again. I had bought a Lavalier mic you had suggested I think it was made by Gorilla? anyway just started using it but then realized going into my iPhone it wasn't recording. WOW! It was using the mic in the iPhone. Using Filmic Pro wondered why it wouldn't see the mic. An adapter is needed Duhhhh. Anyway, I was kind of digging the Deity Lav Pro but want to connect it directly into my iPhone. I do not need a wireless setup and don't really want to get software for my computer to mess with the sound. Your thoughts?
@@curtisjudd Hey Chris thank you. But I wound up buying a Rode model that has two mics so one as a backup and it works great and Filmic pro sees it perfect. I tried using an adapter for the mic i had and It was sketchy. It must have gotten damaged. Anyway it's all good and thank you.
Mr Judd, can you use a wireless lab mic connected to an audio interface like goxlr? I am using it for remote court appearances (I am an attorney). I have had poor reactions to the visual of my sure sm7b. I really appreciate your advice on a recommendation for a lav mic for this application. I am also considering a Sony ECM-77B but would prefer something I can use for mobile use too. Thank you so very much in advance!!
Hi Mark, yes, you can. I'd probably contact one of the pro sound dealers like Trew Audio or Gotham Sound. They can provide several pro-level options. Something like a DPA 4060 with a microdot connector would allow you to switch between XLR for the GoXLR and any other connector you might need for wireless systems if you end up using those. Best wishes!
I didn't get to use them a lot during the pandemic so no conclusion yet, but as things are opening up, we should get a better read on that over the next 6 months or so.
@@curtisjudd it's available here micbooster.com/primo-microphone-capsules/8-primo-em172.html in the UK. I am not sure if it's available on Amazon, but I saw some people on TH-cam admired it a lot.
Thank you Curtis for making this for us! I love deity products found them through you so I bought the d3 pro. Do you think these are worth the upgrade from the v.lav by deity? I’m planning on using this with a rode wireless go.
Hi Project Brickell, thanks! Let me ask first - is there anything you do not like about the V.lav for your projects? Or perhaps something that isn't working as well as you'd like? There is a slightly better sound to the W.Lav - I will say that.
Curtis Judd thanks for the reply Curtis. I do not have either mics right now. I watched your reviews and they both seemed very good with the w.lav being slightly better as you stated. 90% of my videos are for TH-cam and I occasionally get paid gigs. I’m trying to achieve somewhat similar quality as what I get from my deity d3 pro. Thanks again Curtis!
Hey Joel, it's been fine but to be honest, I haven't used them much because the office at work has been closed for almost a year. Hoping we can get back and start putting them to use soon.
Hi Curtis, thanks for the great review! Would you recommend to substitute the bulky lavs from the "Deity Wireless Connect System" for two "W.Lav Pros"?
Hi Curtis. Excellent review. Really tempted to buy the W.Lav Pro. My only concern is I think you mentioned it would be best suited under clothing (apologies if I'm mistaken!). For our small production company, we do a lot of corporate shoots, interviews etc where the mic is fine to be visible. In future, we will hopefully do more shoots where the mic needs to be hidden e.g. short films. I do want to purchase a prosumer/professional microphone that is good quality (sound doesn't need to be incredible though!). Do you think I should look elsewhere for a mic that will perform better outside of clothing or will it do just fine for the situations I've described, and have the added benefit of working even better under clothing on the rare occasions we need it to?
Hello Curtis. Great video as always. I'm in a market for buy audio system and with my limited budget i'd like to start with something that will eager me to do more videos not necessary to shop new gear one after another. I'm thorn between shotgun like rode videomic ntg and rode film maker kit with lav. What you'd suggest as a first buy / step in improving sound in video. What you will think i'd be happy as a first investment?
Hi Damian, depending on the space I'd either go with a boom mic (more natural sounding but requires a room which doesn't have a lot of noise or reverberation) or a lavalier (sounds less natural but generally does better in rooms which are not acoustically treated). Can you tell me a bit more about where you'll be recording?
@@curtisjudd Hi, thx for these hints. My goal is to record some videos in my living room / not treated acoustically. Idea is to have some flat lays and closeups of electronic equipment under service repair. Something like speedlight, camera, lens etc.. Definitely I need to have free hands and most probably i'll need to move myself and adjust during repairs e.g. while assembling components or soldering. Any additional tips after that?
Great Stuff Curtis! Do you always use AES on the A10? Also, if your transmitters are at -28dB, what do you keep your receiver Max Level at (ie: -10 Analogue(dBu)?
Hi gotoddrun, I always use AES when I can, yes. There is no trim on the receiver when in AES mode. If I were sending out an analogue signal, I'd probably set the receiver to 0dB and adjust the trim on the TX to optimize the signal.
Thanks. Generally, yes, but I haven't tested the W-Lav Pro with the Wireless GO 2. I've heard of interference issues with other 3rd party cavaliers and the Wireless GO 2 so if you do buy one, be sure it can be returned.
@@curtisjudd You're welcome! This is my new account. You've inspired me to start making how-to videos (we've talked on my Mike Muncatchy account). Wishing you and yours all the very best, and can't wait for your next video!
Curtis, I assume this is your family? They are awesome! Thanks to them for the sound tests. Great job family!
Yes, they're very kind to help out. 👍
I'm really not shopping for lav mics right now and probably won't in the near future. Just came to watch and like because your reviews have always been the best I could find on TH-cam.
Thanks for helping so many of us!
Thanks Rodrigo!
I know, right?!
[ immediately toss away the tape that’s comes included] 😂
It is duct tape. Bad move. No idea why they'd include that. It'll leave a mess on the mic and cable.
The “I have no idea what to say during a sound test” sound test made my night. Lol
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Right?! Love it!
As usual a solid and very helpful review Curtis. It’s why we love you!
Thanks Norm!
My voice produces a rather nasty resonance with almost all lavalier microphones when they're mounted to my chest. But good news - a little bit of EQ makes it sound really nice, including the W.Lav Pro and Micro. Hear a sample with EQ at 07:31
What frequency range? I find that the MKE600 sounds too midrange-y with the 100Hz HPF engaged. Gonna try my next video with it and the windscreen off.
@@Hexspa 960Hz - ish. But the best way to find it for your voice, mic, and location is to boost by about 6dB, set the Q to about 20, and then sweep across the frequency spectrum until you hear the midrange problem get even worse. Then cut there by 2-4dB and widen the cut to a Q of about 2.
@@curtisjudd So you're doing a relatively wide, shallow cut? You ever try dynamic EQ? Do you use the HPF on your mics? Sorry for all the questions but I reference your videos every time :)
@@Hexspa I often apply a HP filter at 50Hz in post though we didn't do that here so that you could hear the audio directly out of the recorder. I don't use dynamic EQ just because I don't have a dynamic EQ plugin as yet. Yes, I usually apply a relatively wide, shallow cut to manage unpleasant resonances - that way they generally sound fairly smooth and natural.
@@curtisjudd Ok. Yes, I noticed that you have more bass in your voice over than I had in my recent vids.
If you're curious about dynamic EQ, the MAutoDynamicEQ is good but doesn't seem to work that well with Premiere Pro - though that can be related to me running integrated graphics and the way Melda does their GUI. They have 50% off sales all the time so watch for those, if you're interested.
Waves has one, the F6 I believe, if you like them.
Anyway, I tried your curve and Q=2 is actually pretty narrow don't you think? Regardless, you have great sound and I'll continue to try out your advice and reference your excellent work! Cheers.
cable wear and tear is something i wasn't thinking of in my searches, thanksss
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Hi Curtis. I am a blind viewer, and I have trouble telling which mic is which when you are doing comparisons. If you could please make it verbally clear when doing comparison reviewing like this it would be extremely helpful. You could either announce the mic before the sample, or get whomever is speaking to identify which mic they are using. Thanks for all the fantastically helpful work.
Hi Kylee, will look to do that, thanks!
Thank you Curtis for all your great content. I've learned so much from your TH-cam channel! I've been looking at the Countryman B6 but these W.Lav Pro and W.Lav Micro lavalier microphones are looking awesome.
Hi Jan, thanks for the feedback!
very happy with the opening on your channel
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FWIW, I always prefer hearing your voice as it is at the end of the review e.g. @13:25
Even since tinkering with recording as a teenager, I went for the flat, natural tones. I read somewhere eons ago that the microphone is like the lens on a camera. There are lots of choices but it's the first thing your content comes through and affects everything happening from then on.
Question: Have you covered somewhere else what you do with excess lavalier cable between the capsule and where the belt pack is? I did see the video about hiding certain lavs in a button hole, but knowing where to put excess cable so it's secure and less prone to getting damaged would be good. Keep up the series Curtis. It's the most authoritative information I've found.
For corporate work where we're just shooting head and shoulder, talking head types of shots, I generally just tuck the excess into the pocket or waistband of the talent. For narrative, usually in the waistband as well, often secured with tape so that it doesn't fall out.
Most excellent review sir! 👍
Thanks Kev Kev of the #ClownCrowd. Hope you're doing well!
@@curtisjudd Thanks! Still filling the part of Hopalong Cassidy well. :)
Amazing Review! I was wondering, since it has been about a year, if the lav's have held up or if they were as fragile as you feared they'd be? I'm looking at buying a pair of the pro's for a short film where the main character has to be running around and gets thrown around a little, so I need to make sure that the lav's I get are pretty sturdy.
Hi Edward, I haven’t had a chance to use them a lot but they’re holding up so far.
@@curtisjudd Good to hear, thanks for the response!
I was actually wondering about your take on these
Btw Curtis ... I'm going to send you over an email in a little bit.
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Is the w pro included in the Theos system?
Another very helpful review. Thanks Curtis!
You're welcome, Paul!
Thanks for the detailed review. I finally got my w lav pro and really happy with the clarity. The design is unique, looks professional and beautiful. The microdot connector is also one positive value for this mic. It can be fitted to various recorder.
Glad to hear it works well for you!
I would be really interested comparing these to the Point Source Audio lavalieres after that Trew Audio presentation this week.
Me too. I like the idea of the ear mount for some of my corporate work.
I'm certainly no audio pro, but this mic, as well as the Countryman, both sounded a bit nasally to me, or thin, or lacking that rich, full body sound I normally hear from the reviews that Curtis does. Not so bad that I would not buy either of them (far better than simply speaking into your camera with no microphones), but the sound is just not there for me and is off to my untrained ears. Then, with the EQ on and applied, that made a big positive difference to my ears. Much better.
Hi R. S., yes, that is due to the timbre of my voice - almost all lavalier microphones pick up this very prominent resonance at 1kHz and in many cases, another around 2kHz. This includes pro-level mics like the Sanken COS-11D which are widely used on the biggest film and TV productions. So EQ is always needed on recordings of my voice with lavalier microphones - mainly due to my voice and the fact that the mics are worn on the body.
Great review Curtis! So in terms of wireless lavs, any newer ones coming out in the near future that could be game changers? What do you think is the best at this moment for higher end wireless mics? I watched your other reviews including the Rode Wireless Go and Picogear (which just got in stock). I was thinking of hooking the Tascam DR10 to the Rode that way I have a "back up", but I haven't pulled the trigger yet since I'd need two Rode mics/receivers on the camera on the gimbal and it starts to get clunky.
Hey Dr. Reyes, good to hear from you, thanks. There's always Lectrosonics, Wisycom, Zaxcom, and Audio Ltd. on the pro end. Very expensive, but very reliable and they all sound very good - these are what are used in the big budget film and TV productions. I'm not aware of any new pro-sumer or consumer wireless systems coming that really change things in any substantial way.
Any update how well they held up after a year?
They're fine, though I have not used them very much.
If I am not mistaken the SPL of the W.Lav Pro is actually 110.
I'm not sure if it was mentioned in a video of Sound Speeds or reddit. 110 is written down in the manual although every site on the internet states it is 130.
As mentioned, this could be wrong. But I think it's worth pointing out.
Interesting - thanks for that. DEITY needs to update the specs on their own site. That's where I got that.
Thanks for another excellent review.I've just watched one of Allen Williams review on Deity's lav and every time I watch one of his reviews I have to watch one of your reviews to calm down and relax 😃
Thanks for coming by to chill. 👍
Solid review! Do you have any videos on how you normally hide lav mics? Thanks
Yes, several. Here's the most comprehensive one with Simon Bysche of Ursa Straps - a company which makes products for hiding lavaliers. But he doesn't just talk about their products, he covers the pros and cons of all different approaches to hiding lavaliers: th-cam.com/video/RxcQz4VFGXA/w-d-xo.html
Hi Curtis. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of the VT 500 water, but I then found this one. Easy to buy in Thailand, and also waterproof. Adding my very good experience with Deity S-mic 2 shotgun, my only question is, being a year later, how does the silicone cable hold up?
Fine so far, but I don't use it very often.
Thanks for this review, it's helped me to be better informed.
However, these mics haven't yet made an appearance in India, so I've got to wait a while..... 😊
👍 Hopefully once the pandemic settles down a bit they'll be more accessible there.
Nice show .. I have a couple of pre-Diety lav mics ... they sound good and have been in use since mid 2018 with no issues. After this experience, I would tend to trust their build quality ... time will tell. Good show!
Thanks for sharing and for the feedback!
Cannot work with Sony uwp
Yes, Sony is wired differently than all others with 3.5mm plugs.
Thanks for the insightful review. I've been looking for a good mid-tier lav mic. I would like to be able to plug it into the XLR input of my Zoom H5. I contacted Deity and they said this adapter would work: YPA XLR to Microdot adapter. But the adapter itself costs $50, which is kind of absurd when the W.Lav Pro costs $100. I didn't want the wireless part, just a lav mic that connects via XLR. If the W.Lav Pro + adapter is $150+, it seems like the Countryman B3 XLR lav is just a bit more. It seems tricky to find an XLR lav, not that many out there unless you want to use the adapter that Deity recommended.
Yes, not a lot of XLR terminated lavalier mics out there, presumably because people generally use lavaliers with wireless systems instead of audio interfaces.
Oops, forgot to ask: Is there something you do intentionally for judging a microphone's resistance to interference?
For RF interference, make a phone call on my mobile and play back a video at the same time and move it close to the microphone body and cable. For EMF, I move a power cable with current flowing through it near the microphone cable and body.
Curtis, your eq (and whatever other post) makes an amazing and very well received difference in the sound of the lavs.
👍 just EQ.
I'm liking the look of the W.Lav pro.....how would you say it compares to the Sennheiser MKE2 Gold?
Not quite as sturdy, but also not nearly as expensive. They sound different as well, with the MKE2 sounding brighter/crisper.
Curtis, this is your “one year later” check up. How’s the mic cable holding up?
Still ok, but I'm pretty easy on these things and haven't used it very much.
@@curtisjudd Valuable feedback! You’ve earned a subscriber and a cup of coffee next time you’re in Chicagoland (or just a thank you gift sent to you)
Curious as to why you'd put the transmitter on an ankle in that situation rather than a belt or small of the back? What would the advantage be? When you can see the transmitter on TV shows, they'll be on their back.
Hi Mark, It is usually less noticeable on the ankle, certainly when the talent is wearing long pants. If you hide them in the small of the back on an Ursa strap or Neopax or similer, they can show through the shirt on a shot of the talent's back.
Curtis, you promised to re evaluate the cables in "about a year." It's been longer than a year. How did the cables hold up?
Fine.
did they get much use? @@curtisjudd
@@richardweddle3408 Some, but not a lot. The trick is that I've got some higher end mics that get most of the use...but I'd say they were used 5 or 6 times. I'm pretty careful with my gear so it wasn't an acid test.
AS MY FIRST LAP MIC AT THE BEGINNING STAGE FOR VOICEOVER WHICH ONE SHOULD I PIC BETWEEN (DEITY W LAV PRO MIC AND ITS V LAV MIC). I know it has a cost difference but, if I have to pick, which one will be a better investment for now.
Lavs are not the best for VO. I’d choose a large diaphragm condenser instead.
waitin for ur review! thnx! wanna buyt it for interview shootin
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Hey Curtis. I currently own a Zoom F8 and a few Sony UWP d-11 lavs. I'm considering getting some Sanken Cos-11s but was wondering if you think these W.Lav Pro mics are a solid, cheaper alternative. Would either of these mics sound good even if I am only using an F8 and the Sony wireless lavs? I mostly do indie shorts and features, but can't quite afford lectrosonics or a proper sound devices recorder. Thanks and keep up the amazing work.
They are certainly less expensive though they don't seem as durable. That's one of the things about the COS-11D, it is probably the most durable Lavalier microphone I've ever used. Sound quality wise, the DEITY W.Lav mics are quite good.
Hi Curtis, thank you so much for your videos, I've always found your reviews objective and professional. I have a quick question, sorry if you already talked about this matter. I bought the Deity Connect System but the lavs that came with it, as you may know, sound bad (that was expected). I wonder if it's possible to use a better lav like the MKE2 with the Deity Connect Transmitter and receiver? I would like to buy the W.Lav Pro but I haven't found it anywhere in Europe and I live in Sweden. If you believe that I should look for another Lav alternative I'm all ears. I bought a lot of gear based on your reviews and I'm very happy with the decisions I've taken. Have a nice week!
Hi Guillermo, the MKE2 wired for Sennheiser Evolution wireless (3.5mm TRS locking) should work. I don't have one on hand here to test and be 100% certain, but it should work.
@@curtisjudd Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. Very cool!
I'm thinking on buying two pro units to use in dirty situation(mud and water on reality shows)instead my beloved sankens and dpa lavs. Do you think this deity pro mics will hold that?
Seems like a good plan.
Hi Curtis!
I'm Days before my A10 Purchase and I was afraid of the noise floor heard in this video but then you put on the 4160 and *there is literally no noise floor! So awesome!*
I'm getting the Cos-11PT for my A10's. Would you recommend this marring for the lowest noise floor? I'm looking to maximize my SnR with the Cos-11, would you recommend any another mic that is better for maximum SnR? (With the A10's)
Thank you and best,
Hi CUISINED, I haven't used the COS-11D with my A10 system as mine are all wired for Sennheiser 3.5mm locking. But it should be a fine combination. Best wishes!
what other transmitter and receiver devices pair well the Pro? I’m looking to buy the Pro Lav but don’t know what devices go with it
Sennheiser G4 or EW-DP.
Has the beige W.Lav Pro been discontinued? Can’t find it anywhere
I hope not. But you should be able to contact DEITY support to confirm.
Hi Curtis. Do you know if Deity ever corrected the issue with the microdot to TA5 adapter?
Not sure.
The W.lav pro or the Sennheiser ME-2 ii for an untreated room? What do you reckon?
Definitely the W.Lav Pro.
Thanks, as always, for another fine review. I've been lusting for a COS11D, but ran across this review and was thinking the Diety W.Lav Pro may be an affordable alternative. The silicone cable looks rather bad. Considering how lav mics are handled, I think that was either a cost cutting step or just a design oversight that could give these mics a bad reputation. I am curious to see how they hold up before investing in one.
Thanks Dave. I think the silicone was an affordable way to implement the waterproof feature. Will keep you updated on how it holds up.
@@curtisjudd Hello again. Just wondering how the silicone cable sheath is holding up.
@@davidp158 Holding up fine, though admittedly, they have only been used a small handful of times since the review.
Yup, even the "pro grade" lavs should be regarded as disposables over the medium term. When you're using them day in, day out, they've got a tough life.
So true.
I've used Trams for 30 years and I still have my very first one, it's never broken. Worth every penny.
Wow - impressive!
@@curtisjudd Almost. I've probably lost 1700 vampire clips during that time.
@@DirectorsGarage Hahahaha! I hear that!
@@DirectorsGarageYou really should stop leaving them out in the Sun. ;)
Great review as always. Your lighting looks amazing in this video, I'd love to see a behind the scenes shot of it. When I'm setting up interviews, I typically have a 2nd camera trying to get a wide shot so I can't get my lights close for really dramatic lighting.
Thanks Joel. I've got a lighting tutorial coming up in the next couple of weeks where we'll show what we did here in terms of lighting. Depending on camera angles, it should be possible to get this look working with 2 cameras.
@@curtisjudd that's great, I can't wait!! I'm primarily a photographer, but since COVID-19 I've been booking a lot more corporate videos. With the R5 coming out, I'll finally have two 4k cameras for cropping multiple perspectives in post.
Hello Judd, after 3 years did you find some issue with this lavs and their cables?
No issues, but I don’t use them a lot.
Now the only question is how did the lav cable hold? Did it break?
It has not broken, but I haven't used it very much.
I have been trying to figure out if the fan in the Aputure 300 series presents a significant issue for audio at full power. Based on this video it does appear to be a concern. I guess distance is a factor but if it showed up here it is troubling.
The fan on any light will be a concern for sound. 😀
thank god i usually look everyday for new deity lav reviews but i guess i took two days off.
Hope it was helpful.
Same here....I've been searching several times a week for months on end for a quality review of these two lavs. I was so happy to see them pop up
I'm curious if the locking 3.5mm lav mics will work on just a plug-in 3.5mm plug. I would like to get this mic but will need to be able to use it on my 3.5mm camera and action camera plug-ins. I can never find any info on this anywhere.
The locking nut just moves out of the way in my experience. Not a problem.
great, the Wlav Pro actually sounded quite nice. Now I couldn't figure out somehow if this would be compatible with the 3-pin locable Lemo for SK6000 or MTP40S. I think you've had a microdot converter there for A10 I'm guessing uses 3pin lemo? Just wondering, sounds like a great mic for more tight budget shooting. My guess it's a DA3L adapter
Good question - I used the DA3L microdot adapter with my A10 TX. According to the DEITY site, this adapter is compatible with Sennheiser SK6000.
@@curtisjudd cheers Curtis. So you say this is a worthy smaller productions or a backup lavalier mic investment? It did sound nice.
@@kappabravomusic2101 I think so, yes.
So, Curtis! How did the silicone sheath hold up after a year?
It is fine, though I've only had a chance to use it a handful of times.
Hi Curtis, I'm leaving a comment almost two years later! In the video you voiced concerns about the durability of the sheathing of these Deity lavs. At this point have you given them enough usage to comment further on that aspect?
Not a lot of usage, but they’re holding up with the few uses they’ve had so far.
so how's it holding up after 2 years?
Fine though it hasn’t had a LOT of use.
Hi Curtis, I'm thinking of the possibility of upgrading the lavaliers that come with my Comica BoomX-U with the W.Lav Pro. Other than needing a 3.5mm TRS adapter, do you think it will work with the Comica? Thanks!
Hi Stanley, I would think so, though I don't have a Boom XD here to test for certain. Best wishes!
Can you review:
SabineTek SmartMike + Wireless Lavalier Bluetooth Rechargeable Clip-on Microphone
If someone sends one to me, I can. I don't have the budget to purchase one at the moment.
Hey Curtis I know this may be off topic from the video, but I wanted to ask I'm looking to get my first recorder and I was debating from choosing the zoom h4n pro and a tascam dr 60mk2. (I have an NTG2 mic) I know you have voiced concern of the combination of the NTG and the zoom so I was wondering if the tascam was any better?
Hi Jesus, yes, a tiny bit better than the ZOOM.
@@curtisjudd Thank you for your input Curtis.
greetings could you recommend me a good portable recorder to use it in videos ?????
Sound Devices MixPre-3 II.
Weird to see one of your videos with less than 1k views. I'll give it a few more minutes :)
Hahahaha! They all start with 0 views. 😉
I really want to get one of these. I know they are made for more pro applications but do you have any idea how I can get them to work with non-locking 3.5mm inputs like on the Rode Wireless Go or the 3.5mm inputs on Zoom handheld recorders?
I would think they the 3.5mm microdot adapter would work though I haven’t tested them. DEITY support should be able to confirm for you. Best wishes!
Curtis Judd I actually got in touch with them and was told that it probably wouldn’t work. I also can’t find any 3rd party microdot to non-locking 3.5mm adapter. I guess I’m out of luck. Anyway, Thanks.
Deity really produces decent sound quality microphones 🎙
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Do you think Sennheiser makes the best lav mics?
No, they make the MKE2 which is quite good, but there are also very good lavaliers from DPA, Sanken, Countryman, Shure, and others.
Does the 3.5mm adaptor work with the Sony UWPD transmitter? I believe this is different from the more universal Sennheiser or RØDE transmitters.
Hi RemekTek Media, no, I believe it is wired for DEITY Connect, Sennheiser, and RODE.
Underline points , important issue.
Countryman have weak cables, they get dry a broken .
Voice Technologie have Kevlar wires really good.
Thanks for sharing Mario. Fortunately, my B6 has held up nicely for several years now. Important to clean with non-alcohol sanitizers where possible.
@@curtisjudd any advice would be helpfull
@@mariorivas7886 I use Uni-solvef for cleaning lavaliers.
@@curtisjudd thanks so much !!
Thank you for directly comparing these with the more expensive "pro" options. Would you say that these are a meaningful step up in audio quality compared with other options at or less than about US$100? Also, they offer a micro-dot to locking 3.5mm. Will the locking 3.5mm fit into non-locking jacks? I'm thinking of the Rode Wireless Go as an example.
I think so. I've gotten out of the business of reviewing every $20 lavalier microphone which is sold on Amazon, so I'm not exactly an authority on the topic of sub $100 lavalier mics, but amongst those I've used, the W.Lav Pro and Micro seem like a nice step up - not lacking capture across the frequency range which is important to dialogue audio. I don't have the DEITY locking 3.5mm on hand to confirm, but my experience has been with most 3.5mm locking connectors, you can attach them to inputs without locking threads.
I'd be interested to see how the cable jacketing holds up to being colored for theatrical productions, but until they make a low sensitivity version the theater world is going to stick to Countryman and Point Source mics for cheaper productions and DPA or Sennheiser for the better budgeted shows. @Curtis, what is your thoughts on the strength of the microdot-to-adapter connection? It looks stronger than the Point Source X-Connector.
Good question re: coloring for theater. I think you're right, they're mainly targeting the film market vs. theater with these. The microdot to adapter connection seems as robust as those on my B6, DPA, and Twinplex. Will have a better sense once the production world gets rolling again. Best wishes!
Additional note. They do sound good. I didn't do the headphones test, but on average shelf/computer speakers, they sounded good.
Not bad - a little mid-range focused but they seem to clean up nicely with some EQ.
Curtis, do you know if any inexpensive recorders (Zoom maybe) that can simultaneously record line-in AND onboard mics? Can confirm the Sony ICD-UX570 does NOT.
Define inexpensive? No more than $100? None that I know of.
@@curtisjudd under $100 would be amazing. $200 should be an easy one. Maybe more importantly is what would this be called in the specs so I know what to look for? (Teach a man to fish)
@@MojoPapiFPV There's no standard terminology for it as far as I'm aware. The ZOOM H4n and higher can record from the two XLR inputs and the 3.5mm mic input at the same time. It is not line-in, it is a mic input. Hope that helps!
hi! im planning to get this. just wondering if you will be doing a 'one year later review'. cant wait to know if the silicon shield will be of any issue :)
Haven’t had a chance to use them much but the cabling has held up fine.
Great review, and they sound pretty good.
Any comments or tests directly on cable noise? Is the silicone slippery enough to avoid scratching on simple movements (like holding the tip of the mic and running something up the cable to the tip to measure when it starts sounding scratchy)?
You did some simple scratch tests, but the scratch could've been related to mounting. Trying to determine the source. Thanks again, curtis.
Just the tests I did here and similar tests - mount them on chest and move arms about. They did as well as the B6 and better than the DPA.
Thanks for this!!! How has the longevity of this mic been now after a year?
Fine, though I haven't used it a lot.
Curtis, The sub-$100 UK Micbooster EM 172XLR lavalier has a f.r. of 20 to 20k Hz, signal/noise ratio of 80 dB at 1kHz, and self noise of 14 dB-A...whereas the same specs for the Shure Twinplex TL48 are 20 to 20kHz, signal/noise ratio of 69.5 dB, and self noise of 24.5 dB. While the micbooster microphone is larger than the Shure, the specs look superior. What gives? Thanks for any insight you could provide.
Hi Paul, specs are tricky things. They do not tell the whole story. I especially find the 20Hz to 20kHz to be nearly useless, as one example. That means almost nothing from a practical point of view. Even the frequency response charts most microphone manufacturers include in their specs don't translate very well to reality, in my experience. Almost all of them look like a flat line up through at least 5kHz, but when I actually use them, they sound very different through that range with the same voice producing very different resonances at different frequencies. Often, it seems like the budget gear flexes on their specs but don't necessarily deliver or have a fair bit of copy to copy variation. This is why I like to do sound samples as that helps to tell the story at a practical level.
@@curtisjudd Thank you for your perspective. I will trust your professional experience. (Heck, I really wanted a "higher-end" item anyway!!)
hi, what is the best Quality: DEITY W.Lav Pro or Micro?
asking about Quality
Build quality or sound quality? I'd go with the pro for its wider dynamic range unless you need that tiny size of the micro for hiding on talent with form fitting wardrobe.
Nice .. you mean “pro” better sound quality then “micro” but micro good in size?@@curtisjudd
Yes.
@@LearnLightAndSoundSessions thank you
Thanks Curtis. I feel like I have a good idea if they sound now. What I had not seen before and concerns me greatly, was the movement on the cable sheathing. That was unexpected.
Thanks Lloyd - yes, a little unexpected. Will keep you update on how it performs once we get back to the production world.
This is a great review Curtis, and worth the wait. As soon as things start to pick up again I'll be purchasing these soon. I still don't understand why after all this time Deity continues to include that tape. I heard it's some kind of duct tape.
It looked and felt like duct tape so I threw it away. 😀
2:07 micro
4:41 pro
Thanks
Another great CJ moment. Thanks!
Thanks Nyk!
Curtis, i discovered you years ago and finally found you again. I had bought a Lavalier mic you had suggested I think it was made by Gorilla? anyway just started using it but then realized going into my iPhone it wasn't recording. WOW! It was using the mic in the iPhone. Using Filmic Pro wondered why it wouldn't see the mic. An adapter is needed Duhhhh. Anyway, I was kind of digging the Deity Lav Pro but want to connect it directly into my iPhone. I do not need a wireless setup and don't really want to get software for my computer to mess with the sound. Your thoughts?
Sure, that should work with a TRS to TRRS adapter.
@@curtisjudd Hey Chris thank you. But I wound up buying a Rode model that has two mics so one as a backup and it works great and Filmic pro sees it perfect. I tried using an adapter for the mic i had and It was sketchy. It must have gotten damaged. Anyway it's all good and thank you.
Hey Curtis
What do you still think about the lav pro if you have used it in any project yet ?
Still fine if you take care of it. Still needs a bit of EQ to sound great on some voices.
Mr Judd, can you use a wireless lab mic connected to an audio interface like goxlr? I am using it for remote court appearances (I am an attorney). I have had poor reactions to the visual of my sure sm7b. I really appreciate your advice on a recommendation for a lav mic for this application. I am also considering a Sony ECM-77B but would prefer something I can use for mobile use too. Thank you so very much in advance!!
Hi Mark, yes, you can. I'd probably contact one of the pro sound dealers like Trew Audio or Gotham Sound. They can provide several pro-level options. Something like a DPA 4060 with a microdot connector would allow you to switch between XLR for the GoXLR and any other connector you might need for wireless systems if you end up using those. Best wishes!
Curtis Judd thank you!’
DPA 4160 sounds the best...and then I saw the price!
Ah, you like the DPA sound. Agreed, not a cheap microphone.
thank you. Any long-term conclusion about the cable?
I didn't get to use them a lot during the pandemic so no conclusion yet, but as things are opening up, we should get a better read on that over the next 6 months or so.
Is there a follow up video for the one/two year use stress on the cable?
No, haven't had any issues. But I haven't super stressed them either. I just use them on myself since I haven't been doing freelance jobs lately.
Hi, could you review this Mic Clippy EM172?
Hi ElectroTech, are they available in the US? I haven't seen them before.
@@curtisjudd it's available here micbooster.com/primo-microphone-capsules/8-primo-em172.html in the UK. I am not sure if it's available on Amazon, but I saw some people on TH-cam admired it a lot.
Hy, a year have passed) What about cables?
Still ok, though they haven't been used lots.
still hear some hissing noise both on B6 and W.lav pro , VT500 much better on hiss
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Thank you Curtis for making this for us! I love deity products found them through you so I bought the d3 pro. Do you think these are worth the upgrade from the v.lav by deity? I’m planning on using this with a rode wireless go.
Hi Project Brickell, thanks! Let me ask first - is there anything you do not like about the V.lav for your projects? Or perhaps something that isn't working as well as you'd like? There is a slightly better sound to the W.Lav - I will say that.
Curtis Judd thanks for the reply Curtis. I do not have either mics right now. I watched your reviews and they both seemed very good with the w.lav being slightly better as you stated. 90% of my videos are for TH-cam and I occasionally get paid gigs. I’m trying to achieve somewhat similar quality as what I get from my deity d3 pro. Thanks again Curtis!
Hey Curtis, I know it hasn’t been a full year but how has the silicone held up?
Hey Joel, it's been fine but to be honest, I haven't used them much because the office at work has been closed for almost a year. Hoping we can get back and start putting them to use soon.
Hi Curtis, thanks for the great review!
Would you recommend to substitute the bulky lavs from the "Deity Wireless Connect System" for two "W.Lav Pros"?
Yes, I definitely prefer these.
@@curtisjudd Will do, thank you!
Perfect and very usefull review. Thank`s alot!!!
Thanks!
Hi Curtis. Excellent review. Really tempted to buy the W.Lav Pro. My only concern is I think you mentioned it would be best suited under clothing (apologies if I'm mistaken!). For our small production company, we do a lot of corporate shoots, interviews etc where the mic is fine to be visible. In future, we will hopefully do more shoots where the mic needs to be hidden e.g. short films. I do want to purchase a prosumer/professional microphone that is good quality (sound doesn't need to be incredible though!). Do you think I should look elsewhere for a mic that will perform better outside of clothing or will it do just fine for the situations I've described, and have the added benefit of working even better under clothing on the rare occasions we need it to?
Hi Calum, I’d think the W.Lav Pro would be a good mid-range choice for both situations, just add the foam cover when mounted outside of clothing.
@@curtisjudd Yeah I had wondered if that might help. Thanks for confirming :)
Hello Curtis. Great video as always.
I'm in a market for buy audio system and with my limited budget i'd like to start with something that will eager me to do more videos not necessary to shop new gear one after another. I'm thorn between shotgun like rode videomic ntg and rode film maker kit with lav. What you'd suggest as a first buy / step in improving sound in video.
What you will think i'd be happy as a first investment?
Hi Damian, depending on the space I'd either go with a boom mic (more natural sounding but requires a room which doesn't have a lot of noise or reverberation) or a lavalier (sounds less natural but generally does better in rooms which are not acoustically treated). Can you tell me a bit more about where you'll be recording?
@@curtisjudd Hi, thx for these hints. My goal is to record some videos in my living room / not treated acoustically. Idea is to have some flat lays and closeups of electronic equipment under service repair. Something like speedlight, camera, lens etc..
Definitely I need to have free hands and most probably i'll need to move myself and adjust during repairs e.g. while assembling components or soldering.
Any additional tips after that?
Great Stuff Curtis! Do you always use AES on the A10? Also, if your transmitters are at -28dB, what do you keep your receiver Max Level at (ie: -10 Analogue(dBu)?
Hi gotoddrun, I always use AES when I can, yes. There is no trim on the receiver when in AES mode. If I were sending out an analogue signal, I'd probably set the receiver to 0dB and adjust the trim on the TX to optimize the signal.
@@curtisjudd Great info thanks. I just found that my Zoom F8N & MixPre 10T don't have AES in so I'll be using analog for now. Setting receiver to 0dB!
Great dedication and I'm a great fan of you. Thanks a lot.
Thanks Navin!
Great review! :) Would you recommend the W-Law Pro over the Wireless go Lav's that come with the Rode Lavalier Go 2 bundle set?
Thanks. Generally, yes, but I haven't tested the W-Lav Pro with the Wireless GO 2. I've heard of interference issues with other 3rd party cavaliers and the Wireless GO 2 so if you do buy one, be sure it can be returned.
Excellent, thank you for the great tip!
Thanks for the review, Curtis! I'm always impressed by your take on gear reviews, and trust your opinions!
Thanks The Catch!
@@curtisjudd You're welcome! This is my new account. You've inspired me to start making how-to videos (we've talked on my Mike Muncatchy account). Wishing you and yours all the very best, and can't wait for your next video!