Red Bull finally realized that ideal 2nd driver needs to be experienced "top of the midfield" driver, someone who is good enough to win a race but not good enough to win championship. McLaren had that with Berger and Coulthard, Ferrari with Barrichello and Mercedes with Bottas. Heck, you can argue that even Webber falls into that category.
with that said, why are there rumors floating around that Red Bull is looking elsewhere when Checo's contract expires? I don't get it. RB has a consistant 1/2 finisher... Worst case scenario, 1/5 finisher. That will easily allow RB to win the Driver's championship and Constructor's title in the same year. In my eyes, that is the perfect scenario for RB, win both titles. It's not like they can have 2 first place finishers and 2 driver's champions in the same season? So what's the point in dropping Checo? If RB decides to sign another driver, there's no guarantee that they will be able to bring in the same points as Checo. It's not like RB is looking for a 2nd driver to overthrow or replace Max, that is just silly. RB is heavily invested in him. All RB is looking for is a solid 2nd driver. To pick up where Max leaves off and maximize points when needed. And they already found one, Checo. If RB is really looking for a new driver, they will just sabotage themselves at the end... Max will continue to do what Max does... and hope that the 2nd driver can pull in 2nd place finishes... There are no guarantees.
@@KristianLyubenovYT at this rate, where F1 is killing their drivers, in 5-6 years Max will probably be gone as well. He already mentioned that he has no interest in being a F1 lifer
Checo is the perfect man for red bull... he is so similar to Mark Webber.. decent qualifier, super consistent racer, safe pair of hands.. but just not fast enough to catch up to Max just like Webber was to Seb.. but a perfect duo to dominate the constructor's championship.. on top of that, Checo and Max so far have had a friendly relationship unlike the Mark and Seb.. At 33, Checo can easily give another 4-5 years at his best.. so red Bull should keep him until the next regs arrive in 2026..
@@landonboomsma2594 There are bound to be issues like these, especially since the allegation of what Checo did makes Max’ anger more understandable….it wasn’t even anger. It appears he had told both Checo and RBR leadership that they should not ask him to do Checo any favors because he wouldn’t honor it…it was RBR that put Max in the position of ‘standing by’ his declaration or making him fold by putting him in a corner while under international pressure. Did RBR forget who they were pressuring?? It’s the one guy who cannot be pressured so…I don’t know. It seems that the issues have indeed been ironed out and while they may not be the very best of friends, they have a friendly and most importantly, respectful attitude around each other. Perhaps our obsession with teammate ‘bromances’ fuels a high bar of expectation that may not be fair for drivers. It isn’t as bad as Seb’s multi-21 incident which according to Seb many months after the fact was an ACTIVE revenge move against a perceived slight Mark did to him several races back…I don’t remember what it was, does anybody else bc I’d like to know.
@@mamavswildMan I just wanna be entertained. I hope they fight worse than Seb and Mark. Max is an “old school” driver after all, it might just happen 🥹
I don't think there even is a "2nd driver dilemma" anymore. Checo was the answer to that and as much as people are talking about an inter team battle that is just not the reality. So while checo is keeping close to max and giving the team the results they want he is still far from max and is a safe number 2. HE is a fast, reliable and safe number 2 so there is no issue in red bull and the media is blowing it out of proportion.
Red Bull have struck gold with Perez. Great driver who's always up there if Max has a bad race and even gets a few wins on merit. They should try to avoid another Brazil '22 problem though
@@datgood121 Can you name me the better and safer ways to do it? I mean the crash didn’t even damage the car a lot and the fia didn’t investigate. That’s a pretty safe way of cheating. Even Sainz said other drivers will purposefully crash in qualifying for a better position
I'll always cheer on Gasly and Albon after how rough RB was with them. That was a difficult situation and I'm glad that wasn't their end of their careers. The articles they wrote on the Player's Tribune are great reads that talks about those years.
You must crying when in football the trainer is fired. At least Red Bull gives them a change. Look how Mercedes treats their upcoming drivers. That's far worse (Ocon, Wehrlein, etc)
Red bull wasn't rough on them. Red bull is a championship caliber team even in those years when they didn't have the car, they (like mercs now) expect to be fighting again soon. Gasly was great at torro Ross, he got in the bull when he wasn't ready. And once he made a few mistakes it snowballed on him. Albon, I wanted alex in that seat for so long, and even I wanted to see someone new by the end of it. Maybe max is just that good but I think it was more these kids were in over there heads trying to beat max and pushed themselves out of Red bull. JMO
@@PulsingKrugotvoidAlbon was good in his first half-a-season. The 2020 car unfortunately was a wild bull that only Max could tame(even then there were moments Max lost control as well). Following some of his crashes, its evident the car wasn't great to drive despite its speed.
@@PulsingKrugotvoid Fair points but not everyone is going to be a Max, Fernando or Lewis. That's the problem Red Bull will face when Max retires or if another team succesfully lures him away. He set the bar so high maybe too high. It will tough for anyone to emulate it within the team. Also the team was so built around Max with Papa Jos almost always in the garage there's no doubt there will be some influence. As Daniel Ricciardo had said in DTS he saw where the team's direction was going. It was one of the reasons why he left. That started the audition for that second seat. Red Bull may be a championship team but if they don't nurture their junior a little better they'll be biting more than they could chew. They hired Perez who is now struggling. What does that say about Red Bull's junior program? On the flipside I'm very happy Sainz and Albon are no longer under the RB sphere and they're doing well at their current teams. Gasly was doing fine for a while with Alpha Tauri and starting fresh at Alpine.
Checo should also be credited with putting Force India into administration paving way for the Stroll Consortium to take over and later as Aston Martin.
Red bull deserved better. I mean this is formula 1 and you are in a top car. Alex deserved to be there. But then he also deserved the boot. He finish 7th, SEVENTH, in the standings in the second best car. That's asinine.
Sainz couldn't have predicted that Ricciardo would leave Red Bull. Otherwise he might have stayed. If he stayed, he would get the Red Bull seat and I don't think he'd fail like Gasly or Albon.
would be really interesting to see if Sainz would be closer to Max than Checo in the same car. Sainz in the Torro Rosso alongside Max was always in touching distance on pace and beat him on merit in multiple races. Regardless, Max has that spark that most drivers just dont, out of the current grid i could only see Russell and maybe Leclerc on a good day beating him in the same car over a season.
@@_Azagoth_ Checo's the best option between the two hands down, that Toro-Rosso Verstaappen's not the same as this one nowadays whatsoever, this VER is an Android and Sainz has been well off the pace of LEC throughout his entire Ferrari path. Moreover, Checo's been able to beat this VER by own merit unlike SAI🏆
Verstappen Sainz would’ve been the optimal line up. Because Sainz is really strong but just clinically allergic to beating Verstappen, so you’d still have a clear number 1
@@ethanswimmer1287 you may not want a "clear #1", but that is what teams want. McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes all achieved massive success with a "clear #1"
@@fish1313 so true, the whole reason the Hamilton/Rosberg situation went south, was becuse Rosberg was meant to be #2. And we all know how Senna/Prost went
The thing about Max is that he drives like an experienced driver even when he was younger. So the only driver that could drive alongside Max is also an experienced driver like Checo. Alex Albon said it himself that he knows the car and have driven alongside other drivers on the grid, it's just that driving alongside Max is like driving a big truck, it's hard to keep up.
There is always doubts around Checo for the 2nd seat at RB but he’s the best thing for RB and Max and the only reason they should move on is to get their Junior drivers more opportunities but Checo does so much for Marketing to one of the biggest fanbases on the grid, has great race craft, veteran leadership, but still a mighty competitor to keep Max pushing. Iron sharpens iron. Proud of Checo
There is literally a monster driver named Ricciardo right there standing in pits with his headphones on. The dilemma might not be there at this moment, but the pressure sure is
That will be a tough ask... But I don't see any drivers from the RB academy that can fill Max's shoes. He's a one in a generation driver... Unless they are willing to scoop up Lando or Leclerc when their contract is up. But that will be foolish for McLaren or Ferrari to let their star drivers go.
The situation is going to be far more interesting in a few years, maybe 2026 or so. Because by that point they don't only need a second driver, they need to take seriously the possibility that Max will quit after 2028 so they have to prepare a new first driver.
I would like to see Yuki get promoted if RB decided to boot Checo after this season (or after 2024). I also like to see Lawson and Iwasa get promoted to F1.
Having two top drivers on a team that is number 1 is not ideal and idk how many examples we need to show this. Senna/Prost, Hamilton/Rosberg, Alonso/Hamilton. All absolute wars that created division within the teams and did nothing but create unnecessary drama.
@@rastapopoulos7870 yeah and all of those drivers also had the best cars. In 2007 Alonso and Hamilton took so many points off of each other that neither of them won the drivers championship, if Mclaren focused on 1 driver they would’ve easily won driver wdc that season.
I'm happy Red Bull picked up Checo. Proud of them for giving that loveable Mexican a chance. I absolutely live for his smiles up on the podium, he's an honest and mature man.
Many people cling to the Brazil 2021 incident to show how Checo and Max don’t get along…this has been echoed by pundits like Ralf Schumacher who simply doesnt know these drivers any more than we do. These are guys, not high school girls (and I say that as a woman, I know how we tend to operate); they worked out their issues and while they may not be ‘besties’, it’s obvious they have a healthy respect for each other and get along in a friendly manner. Indeed, both sides of the garage are in as healthy and stable a state now than I’ve ever seen them since beginning to follow RBR and F1 since 2009. I think that our appetite for teammate ‘bromances’ sets the bar unreasonably high, especially in high profile teams. There just isn’t the drama between Max and Checo that SOME people seem to genuinely hope for.
I adore Gasly & Albono. They're both really talented drivers. I do however think they were both promoted to early and perhaps needed more help to get on board with the car & challenge Max. Also, maybe they weren't ready for the pressure of a top team. You can't except every good driver will perform like once in a generation talents Max, Lewis, Fernando, Seb etc. I'm glad they're still doing well. Gasly did so much better after going back to AT & RB kept Albono around thankfully. I am also really happy RB gave Checo a chance. He is a really good driver and is shining. He absolutely deserves it. I do wish he was more consistent tho. There is still a gap to Max. I'm sure it's difficult to match up to these great drivers like Nando & Stroll. RB definitely isn't lacking in choices now for AT & RB. They have a boat load of talent.
It’s interesting that you put this video out even as the official RBR site just put a Ricciardo video out. Definitely not an environment where Checo can afford to get comfortable. He needs to stay as close to Max as he can. I genuinely do not see Checo defeating Max over the course of a season, but he plays a perfect role as second driver at the team…being ready to pick up the pieces and perform when something happens to Max’ car or circumstances put Max outside of the win.
Perfectly put there, Checo is a ‘safe bet driver’ for red bull. As for the Ricciardo video, ever since he re joined red bull he’s been in a big percentage of their PR posts. It makes me thing 2 different situations. 1: DR knows he’s out the running for a championship even if he gets the 2nd red bull seat, so he would get the 2nd seat if/when checo retires. 2: (more unlikely) RB will give more help/advantage to Checo to win the championship this year, which if he does win it, will do what Rosberg did and retire on a high. Opening the seat for DR to play the same role checo has in helping max go on to win more titles
Red Bull needs to stick with Checo, no one is going to be on the same level as Max unless they can somehow secure Lewis or Alonso. Checo is good enough for now as long as he performs decently.
Don't think its a dilemma. Last year Checo was even closer to Max after 4 races and ended 149 behind. So clearly 2nd guy. Horner, Marko and Checo say all is good ............ so whats the dilemma?
this is his best season start of all time, last year the car development just kind of slipped away frm his style of driving to make it as fast as possible designed for aggressive driving but checo likes smoother driving that’s why he’s been the Tyre whisperer for a while, just couldn’t get grips with the car but this year he seems wayyy more confident in the cockpit so we’ll see
Points are great about Sergio. He has been my #1 Motorsports driver since his GP2 days. He is still my #1 driver today. I have seen him evolve as a driver in the last 5 years or so that make me extremely proud of him. So far, this year i think he knows he needs to keep pushing and producing great results, and he has delivered in pretty much every way. Can Sergio beat Max? I don't think so....but RB have no reason to look for another driver, or even remotely consider Danny Ric for any reason, no way. Still i think Sergio has the mettle to handle the pressure and keep producing great results!
I think the best team for Ricciardo to go to at the moment, would be Aston Martin as Lance's replacement. The driver and the team would massively benefit from one another. But we all know Lance has a seat for life as long as Daddy Lawrence owns the team.
Really? I personally think Alpine would be his best option. He's previously worked with the team and can offer some experience to the team. I personally see him struggling if he went to Aston to replace Stroll, but unless something goes dramatically wrong, Aston won't get rid of Stroll, plus they have Drugovich waiting in the wings, but it would be interesting who would partner Drugovich once Alonso retires or Stroll is kicked out.
To me, if Checo manages to win it this year, he´ll do a Rosberg. And if he doesn´t he´ll leave at the end of his contract next season. Whenever he leaves, I think Yuki is the right call, Norris v Verstappen we´ll be too risky, but considering it´s RB, they´ll probably do it
perez is perfect for red bull, red bull may not be perfect for perez. what kind of f1 driver really wants to play second fiddle for the rest of their career? red bull would be very reluctant to let checo leave. he is too slow to really be a threat to max and he is a full on team player who can take a result when max does not. exactly what red bull and max want. ideally, red bull want yuki tsunoda after sergio leaves whenever that is. yuki is on his 3rd season and is doing a very consistent, calm headed job currently and that is what red bull wants. someone who can score wins when max cannot but someone who is also too slow to challenge him when there are no problems
I strangely put 2021 down to Mercedes timidness in strategy in France, AD, US and a few other races. Perez being close is what allowed Red Bull to go bold and scared Mercedes into racing conservatively. Let's not forget that Lewis also would've had enough of a gap to box for new mediums or softs at that lap 55 SC if Checo didn't hold him up.
Frankly, the dynamics of Red Bull seem super toxic. I mean, it seems like they're always looking for the next wunderkind to challenge the established veteran stars and either they sink (like Speed, Kvyat, Gasly, and Albon) or they swim (like Vettel, Ricciardo, and Verstappen). But it also seems like there's very little time for adaptation and development at Red Bull. There doesn't seem to be time to learn the car and adapt to the team.
It's to prevent time and resource wasting. Better to know in 10 races then 48. They have been around and know what qualities a champion possesses. Generally, it's the tenacity to rise up after adversity and demonstrate a dogged determination to succeed in addition to talent.
Danny is definitely only at Red Bull for publicity. Let’s be real. We need to forget how he was years ago. Dude is washed out. I’d love to see him in a car again so he can prove my point. Red Bull only grabbed him because he is good for $$$ he is more of a celebrity than a driver.
Yuki sooner rather than later will be in that Red bull. It's no longer just Helmut or Horner calling the shots. Ford CEO is a Perez fan. The Red bull CEO is a Yuki fan and a known critic of how Max handled the Brazil situation. (Context: Post Brazil 2022 there were some camera shots of the CEO yelling at Helmut Marko and honrer although the finger waving was pointed towards Helmut. It's now known inside the paddock that Red bull boards have Red bull racing aren't on the same page. Interview after rumours of Alpha being sold asked towards Helmut who simply said I have had 1 meeting with him so far and hoping to talk sometime in the future. Red bull also outlined the plain for F1 team in recent march Report (publicly traded companies are legally obligated to provide this) which showed Liam or Daniel may be placed at alpha tauri if anything happens to Red bull drivers and Yuki will replace them, also it noted that all contract from February of 2022 will be under Red bull management not Red bull racing
I think Checo will leave after his contract is up. He wants to spend time with his family and the fact that more races are being added, he has said he will likely retire if more races are going to be added.
nah he has a couple more years in him, as his dad said no too long ago, sure more races will be added but there will be a point we’re all the drivers are going to say no and also a point we’re it isn’t even possible, he said he wouldn’t be here if he didn’t believe he would be champion
Right now RB have no worries about who to replace Checo due to how dominant the car is. As long as that is the case there is no point in replacing him. This is the scenario RB needed in order to redevelop their driver programme.
Red Bull(including Alpha Tauri) really needs to realise that Rookies need time to get used to the formula 1 world. Most Rookies need at least 1-2 years. If they want drivers that deliver instantly don't. sign. rookies. Of course there are Rookies that are really good already in their first year, but these are exceptional talents.
I like checo very much. I think he's the best second driver red bull could ask for in the past couple of years, given their track record, and even though he's been closer than ever to max, I'm slightly disappointed in him this season. I actually (or naively) thought he could fight at the same level as Max, but I now see that as virtually impossible for him to be world champion, other than max having serious reliability issues from now on. The Miami gp was really an eye opener and just showed how fast max really is. Checo kept trying to find excuses saying RB didn't give him the best strategy, but he was simply slower, losing p1 despite an enormous advantage. Now I believe checo's real objective this year is to fend off Alonso from getting P2 in the driver's championship. That's just unacceptable, tbh.
People seem to forget Checo been in the sport for over a decade, was a hot young talent when he come into the circus and was best of the rest in 2020. He is no Max, Lewis or Alonso but he might just be the best next thing to a top championship driver and pretty much the perfect fit for any team wanting to fight for a championship as a 2nd driver.
he was best of the rest most of the hybrid era when rp where barely in the midfield, as shown by a fairly solid driver in ocon not getting incredible results
@@mj.03 ignoring 2020, in 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, all of these he was best of the rest when he had a midfield car, in 2020 he was better than albon in a car worse than his
Perez is the absolute perfect driver for Red Bull. Can push hard, drive on the edge and keep it there. Sounds like fences have been mended for internal friction. I hope they extend him and keep the stability and win constructors championships for years to come! I’m sure a few drivers titles will be mixed in there also. 😉
Checo is doing the right thing this season going for a title fight. He knows it's now or never for him he's 34 now and any team on the grid would love to sign him for a few more years but what he can't get is a championship winning car so it's now or never for him LFG CHECO 🔥
If Lewis is undoubtably the first racer of Mercedes you could simply apply the same logic at Red Bull and simply ignore the whole question, no matter what points, no matter what times. Max is the first driver, no issue. There, problem solved.
Lando going to RB is a no go for me. He's already been offered the seat so many times and has declined every time. Unless something crazy happens I don't see it.
I feel that Checo has now fully established himself at Red Bull and has made himself wanted at the team, to the point where I see no reason for Red Bull to want to drop him. I feel that when Checo eventually does leave Red Bull, it'll be on his own accord and not the team's. Daniel in my opinion has done nothing to show he deserves to replace Checo. You're only as good as your last performance, and Daniel choked so hard at McLaren. He's only at Red Bull because he's great for marketing, and probably because Horner felt sorry for him to a degree.
I would add though Aldas that Horner and Helmut creating an environment where the second driver is constantly under pressure kinda aided to they poor performances at times though.
I heard about max and jps wanting nico in 2021 but they went for checo, have no idea if thats true but i always wondered why didnt they never considerated hulkenberg, if someone could enlighten me on this
The idea of Gasly being dropped and then getting a podium with TR is still just the funniest thing
A win lmao!
@@superfly2535 brazil 2019
Yeah. That showed That he was really not at ease with the Red Bull. The talent is there. Gasly and Albon are great drivers
@Shadow they don't expect Max Verstappen results, but they do want their driver to be within half a second of Max.
@@Shadow_Speed_01that was the win but he got a podium as well
Red Bull finally realized that ideal 2nd driver needs to be experienced "top of the midfield" driver, someone who is good enough to win a race but not good enough to win championship. McLaren had that with Berger and Coulthard, Ferrari with Barrichello and Mercedes with Bottas. Heck, you can argue that even Webber falls into that category.
Poor mark, to be a great next to one of the greatest
Mark was a champion-caliber driver but the team kissed Seb's ass so hard
Vettel outqualified Webber 77 to 22
@@dholrice5699 yeah and?
@@TheLuthorri kissing marks ass not gonna change that fact that vettel is that guy
Was too early for Albon especially and Gasly. Sadly sometimes these things don't work out but RB have a great lineup now with perez.
with that said, why are there rumors floating around that Red Bull is looking elsewhere when Checo's contract expires? I don't get it. RB has a consistant 1/2 finisher... Worst case scenario, 1/5 finisher. That will easily allow RB to win the Driver's championship and Constructor's title in the same year. In my eyes, that is the perfect scenario for RB, win both titles. It's not like they can have 2 first place finishers and 2 driver's champions in the same season? So what's the point in dropping Checo? If RB decides to sign another driver, there's no guarantee that they will be able to bring in the same points as Checo.
It's not like RB is looking for a 2nd driver to overthrow or replace Max, that is just silly. RB is heavily invested in him. All RB is looking for is a solid 2nd driver. To pick up where Max leaves off and maximize points when needed. And they already found one, Checo.
If RB is really looking for a new driver, they will just sabotage themselves at the end... Max will continue to do what Max does... and hope that the 2nd driver can pull in 2nd place finishes... There are no guarantees.
@@cpcxgsr the rumours are just that...rumours.
@@cpcxgsr For all intents, Checo will probably retire within 5-6 years, so it would be smart to look elsewhere already
@@KristianLyubenovYT at this rate, where F1 is killing their drivers, in 5-6 years Max will probably be gone as well. He already mentioned that he has no interest in being a F1 lifer
Checo is the perfect man for red bull... he is so similar to Mark Webber.. decent qualifier, super consistent racer, safe pair of hands.. but just not fast enough to catch up to Max just like Webber was to Seb.. but a perfect duo to dominate the constructor's championship.. on top of that, Checo and Max so far have had a friendly relationship unlike the Mark and Seb..
At 33, Checo can easily give another 4-5 years at his best.. so red Bull should keep him until the next regs arrive in 2026..
The only problem is that he refuses to take the role as 2nd driver. But this attitude might be fueled by fans that have unrealistic expectations.
I dunno if it’s friendly. Last year after Brazil they were upset with each other and they still don’t follow each other on instagram
@@landonboomsma2594 There are bound to be issues like these, especially since the allegation of what Checo did makes Max’ anger more understandable….it wasn’t even anger. It appears he had told both Checo and RBR leadership that they should not ask him to do Checo any favors because he wouldn’t honor it…it was RBR that put Max in the position of ‘standing by’ his declaration or making him fold by putting him in a corner while under international pressure. Did RBR forget who they were pressuring?? It’s the one guy who cannot be pressured so…I don’t know. It seems that the issues have indeed been ironed out and while they may not be the very best of friends, they have a friendly and most importantly, respectful attitude around each other.
Perhaps our obsession with teammate ‘bromances’ fuels a high bar of expectation that may not be fair for drivers.
It isn’t as bad as Seb’s multi-21 incident which according to Seb many months after the fact was an ACTIVE revenge move against a perceived slight Mark did to him several races back…I don’t remember what it was, does anybody else bc I’d like to know.
@@mamavswildMan I just wanna be entertained. I hope they fight worse than Seb and Mark. Max is an “old school” driver after all, it might just happen 🥹
His problem is that he is not super consistent!
I don't think there even is a "2nd driver dilemma" anymore. Checo was the answer to that and as much as people are talking about an inter team battle that is just not the reality. So while checo is keeping close to max and giving the team the results they want he is still far from max and is a safe number 2. HE is a fast, reliable and safe number 2 so there is no issue in red bull and the media is blowing it out of proportion.
Red Bull have struck gold with Perez. Great driver who's always up there if Max has a bad race and even gets a few wins on merit. They should try to avoid another Brazil '22 problem though
Perez should avoid cheating in Monaco, seems to be difficult for him. Let‘s see what he does next week
@@Reaz399 if it was cheating there was better & safer ways to do it lmao how are people still falling for this
@@datgood121 Can you name me the better and safer ways to do it? I mean the crash didn’t even damage the car a lot and the fia didn’t investigate. That’s a pretty safe way of cheating. Even Sainz said other drivers will purposefully crash in qualifying for a better position
@Sidharth Tirkey don’t lump us Max fans with that idiot please
@@Reaz399 Take off your tin foil hat bud 😂😂
I'll always cheer on Gasly and Albon after how rough RB was with them. That was a difficult situation and I'm glad that wasn't their end of their careers. The articles they wrote on the Player's Tribune are great reads that talks about those years.
You must crying when in football the trainer is fired.
At least Red Bull gives them a change. Look how Mercedes treats their upcoming drivers. That's far worse (Ocon, Wehrlein, etc)
Red bull wasn't rough on them. Red bull is a championship caliber team even in those years when they didn't have the car, they (like mercs now) expect to be fighting again soon. Gasly was great at torro Ross, he got in the bull when he wasn't ready. And once he made a few mistakes it snowballed on him. Albon, I wanted alex in that seat for so long, and even I wanted to see someone new by the end of it. Maybe max is just that good but I think it was more these kids were in over there heads trying to beat max and pushed themselves out of Red bull. JMO
@@PulsingKrugotvoid I can't put it better (haha, not a native speaker), but well stated.
@@PulsingKrugotvoidAlbon was good in his first half-a-season. The 2020 car unfortunately was a wild bull that only Max could tame(even then there were moments Max lost control as well). Following some of his crashes, its evident the car wasn't great to drive despite its speed.
@@PulsingKrugotvoid Fair points but not everyone is going to be a Max, Fernando or Lewis. That's the problem Red Bull will face when Max retires or if another team succesfully lures him away. He set the bar so high maybe too high. It will tough for anyone to emulate it within the team. Also the team was so built around Max with Papa Jos almost always in the garage there's no doubt there will be some influence. As Daniel Ricciardo had said in DTS he saw where the team's direction was going. It was one of the reasons why he left. That started the audition for that second seat. Red Bull may be a championship team but if they don't nurture their junior a little better they'll be biting more than they could chew. They hired Perez who is now struggling. What does that say about Red Bull's junior program? On the flipside I'm very happy Sainz and Albon are no longer under the RB sphere and they're doing well at their current teams. Gasly was doing fine for a while with Alpha Tauri and starting fresh at Alpine.
Checo should also be credited with putting Force India into administration paving way for the Stroll Consortium to take over and later as Aston Martin.
RB second seat was a career destroyer, Albon deserved better tbh. Glad he's doing OK in Williams.
Red bull deserved better. I mean this is formula 1 and you are in a top car. Alex deserved to be there. But then he also deserved the boot. He finish 7th, SEVENTH, in the standings in the second best car. That's asinine.
Albin deserved better, which called time. He was wayyy undercooked to be compared against Max
looking back at it, they put a rookie into a red bull. Who the hell does that, that is way too early.
Sainz couldn't have predicted that Ricciardo would leave Red Bull. Otherwise he might have stayed. If he stayed, he would get the Red Bull seat and I don't think he'd fail like Gasly or Albon.
Real
Sainz and Verstappen could have been a great duo as well,since they had been teammates in the past
That would have ruled.
In that alternative reality we'll have verstappen and sainz at rb and Leclair and checo at Ferrari 😅
would be really interesting to see if Sainz would be closer to Max than Checo in the same car. Sainz in the Torro Rosso alongside Max was always in touching distance on pace and beat him on merit in multiple races. Regardless, Max has that spark that most drivers just dont, out of the current grid i could only see Russell and maybe Leclerc on a good day beating him in the same car over a season.
Redbull should have gone for Sainz. They even had him under contract, still they went for Gasly. That's where they made a mistake.
@@_Azagoth_ Checo's the best option between the two hands down, that Toro-Rosso Verstaappen's not the same as this one nowadays whatsoever, this VER is an Android and Sainz has been well off the pace of LEC throughout his entire Ferrari path. Moreover, Checo's been able to beat this VER by own merit unlike SAI🏆
Palmer is great at dissecting crashes because he's been in them all
Verstappen Sainz would’ve been the optimal line up. Because Sainz is really strong but just clinically allergic to beating Verstappen, so you’d still have a clear number 1
@@ethanswimmer1287 you may not want a "clear #1", but that is what teams want. McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes all achieved massive success with a "clear #1"
@@ethanswimmer1287 the only really successful "no clear #1" lineups were prost/senna and hamilton/rosberg and both of them were almighty headaches
@@fish1313 so true, the whole reason the Hamilton/Rosberg situation went south, was becuse Rosberg was meant to be #2. And we all know how Senna/Prost went
The thing about Max is that he drives like an experienced driver even when he was younger. So the only driver that could drive alongside Max is also an experienced driver like Checo.
Alex Albon said it himself that he knows the car and have driven alongside other drivers on the grid, it's just that driving alongside Max is like driving a big truck, it's hard to keep up.
-Videos that didn't age well - 0:00 - 0:10
There is always doubts around Checo for the 2nd seat at RB but he’s the best thing for RB and Max and the only reason they should move on is to get their Junior drivers more opportunities but Checo does so much for Marketing to one of the biggest fanbases on the grid, has great race craft, veteran leadership, but still a mighty competitor to keep Max pushing. Iron sharpens iron. Proud of Checo
The way you said "São Paulo" was spot on
There literally is NO DILEMMA right now. He’s performing well, and he’s under contract.
“Stop inventing.”
There is literally a monster driver named Ricciardo right there standing in pits with his headphones on. The dilemma might not be there at this moment, but the pressure sure is
It would be nice if Max didn't receive many, many death threats daily from the fans of his team mate
@@thecompanioncube4211 they have said multiple times they will look to their redbull junior drivers and will NOT be utilizing ric.
@@thecompanioncube4211 *washed up driver
@@thecompanioncube4211 monster driver?
Doesn’t really feel like much of a dilemma with the way Checo is driving as well as anyone could hope to against Max.
Checo needs to go to Ferrari after his Red Bull contract
well he does have ties with them and Toto said he’s been wanting him for a couple years but nvr could really sign him
Why do you want Checo to suffer?
why is there one tho?Checo is doing amazing stuff, just what RB needs.
Perez is ideal, the tricky thing is what do they do Perez and Verstappen retire around the same time
That will be a tough ask... But I don't see any drivers from the RB academy that can fill Max's shoes. He's a one in a generation driver... Unless they are willing to scoop up Lando or Leclerc when their contract is up. But that will be foolish for McLaren or Ferrari to let their star drivers go.
The situation is going to be far more interesting in a few years, maybe 2026 or so. Because by that point they don't only need a second driver, they need to take seriously the possibility that Max will quit after 2028 so they have to prepare a new first driver.
All of these shenanigans would make a great spin off of Drive to Survive. Thanks for a great video Aldas!
why is there a dilemma? checo is doing great, i dont understand this stupid things of replacing
There is no dilemma. Not a single name mentioned in this video is better than Checo.
I would like to see Yuki get promoted if RB decided to boot Checo after this season (or after 2024). I also like to see Lawson and Iwasa get promoted to F1.
Aged like milk in just two weeks 😂
Pérez is impressive this year. Needs to find one more step and beat Max. I would love to see it. Vamos México!
Good luck with that. Perez is going towards retirement age so if he suddenly finds something now than I'd be quite surprised.
@@Dani-it5sy Aw, Max fan jealousy already?
@@xKrypto98x so clear of... Williams? I mean, yeah, it's Williams
@@AndrewGeierMelons Not a Max fan. But if I was.. Jealous of what? 🤔
@@Dani-it5sy Pérez's 2023 championship.
I think it's pretty clear that Checo helps makes Max better.
Or is Checo getting better every year racing with Max!!
Both
Having two top drivers on a team that is number 1 is not ideal and idk how many examples we need to show this. Senna/Prost, Hamilton/Rosberg, Alonso/Hamilton. All absolute wars that created division within the teams and did nothing but create unnecessary drama.
Except all of those were championship winning lineups. 2 drivers on par will push each other to maximum performance.
@@rastapopoulos7870 yeah and all of those drivers also had the best cars. In 2007 Alonso and Hamilton took so many points off of each other that neither of them won the drivers championship, if Mclaren focused on 1 driver they would’ve easily won driver wdc that season.
RBs only problem was trying to catch lightning in a bottle twice. Max is a generational driver, Checo is the only driver they need.
👍👍🏁
this didnt age well
I'm happy Red Bull picked up Checo. Proud of them for giving that loveable Mexican a chance. I absolutely live for his smiles up on the podium, he's an honest and mature man.
Define honest.
@@DonEnzone fair enough
Many people cling to the Brazil 2021 incident to show how Checo and Max don’t get along…this has been echoed by pundits like Ralf Schumacher who simply doesnt know these drivers any more than we do.
These are guys, not high school girls (and I say that as a woman, I know how we tend to operate); they worked out their issues and while they may not be ‘besties’, it’s obvious they have a healthy respect for each other and get along in a friendly manner. Indeed, both sides of the garage are in as healthy and stable a state now than I’ve ever seen them since beginning to follow RBR and F1 since 2009.
I think that our appetite for teammate ‘bromances’ sets the bar unreasonably high, especially in high profile teams. There just isn’t the drama between Max and Checo that SOME people seem to genuinely hope for.
I adore Gasly & Albono. They're both really talented drivers. I do however think they were both promoted to early and perhaps needed more help to get on board with the car & challenge Max. Also, maybe they weren't ready for the pressure of a top team. You can't except every good driver will perform like once in a generation talents Max, Lewis, Fernando, Seb etc. I'm glad they're still doing well. Gasly did so much better after going back to AT & RB kept Albono around thankfully. I am also really happy RB gave Checo a chance. He is a really good driver and is shining. He absolutely deserves it. I do wish he was more consistent tho. There is still a gap to Max. I'm sure it's difficult to match up to these great drivers like Nando & Stroll. RB definitely isn't lacking in choices now for AT & RB. They have a boat load of talent.
If it's not broken, why fix it! Checo is the Mr. Dependable
It’s interesting that you put this video out even as the official RBR site just put a Ricciardo video out.
Definitely not an environment where Checo can afford to get comfortable. He needs to stay as close to Max as he can. I genuinely do not see Checo defeating Max over the course of a season, but he plays a perfect role as second driver at the team…being ready to pick up the pieces and perform when something happens to Max’ car or circumstances put Max outside of the win.
Perfectly put there, Checo is a ‘safe bet driver’ for red bull.
As for the Ricciardo video, ever since he re joined red bull he’s been in a big percentage of their PR posts. It makes me thing 2 different situations.
1: DR knows he’s out the running for a championship even if he gets the 2nd red bull seat, so he would get the 2nd seat if/when checo retires.
2: (more unlikely) RB will give more help/advantage to Checo to win the championship this year, which if he does win it, will do what Rosberg did and retire on a high. Opening the seat for DR to play the same role checo has in helping max go on to win more titles
“What Palmer is doing, he needs to get out of my Renault seat,” said Carlos Sainz
Danny Ric is going to alpha tauri, he's not at Checo's level today. Nice memories with Daniel though
My man knows his stuff
Red Bull needs to stick with Checo, no one is going to be on the same level as Max unless they can somehow secure Lewis or Alonso. Checo is good enough for now as long as he performs decently.
Don't think its a dilemma.
Last year Checo was even closer to Max after 4 races and ended 149 behind.
So clearly 2nd guy.
Horner, Marko and Checo say all is good ............ so whats the dilemma?
this is his best season start of all time, last year the car development just kind of slipped away frm his style of driving to make it as fast as possible designed for aggressive driving but checo likes smoother driving that’s why he’s been the Tyre whisperer for a while, just couldn’t get grips with the car but this year he seems wayyy more confident in the cockpit so we’ll see
last season checo hadn't beaten max on pace though?
Quite an unlucky timing of this video after last few racing weekends that were a disaster for Checo. Anyway, awesome vid Man
Verstappen is inevitable. Pain intensifies
Points are great about Sergio. He has been my #1 Motorsports driver since his GP2 days. He is still my #1 driver today. I have seen him evolve as a driver in the last 5 years or so that make me extremely proud of him. So far, this year i think he knows he needs to keep pushing and producing great results, and he has delivered in pretty much every way. Can Sergio beat Max? I don't think so....but RB have no reason to look for another driver, or even remotely consider Danny Ric for any reason, no way. Still i think Sergio has the mettle to handle the pressure and keep producing great results!
Checo believe he can win the world championship. I think Checo is going to push himself to the best he can possibly be.
What delemma? Just making stuff up now.
I think the best team for Ricciardo to go to at the moment, would be Aston Martin as Lance's replacement. The driver and the team would massively benefit from one another. But we all know Lance has a seat for life as long as Daddy Lawrence owns the team.
Really? I personally think Alpine would be his best option. He's previously worked with the team and can offer some experience to the team. I personally see him struggling if he went to Aston to replace Stroll, but unless something goes dramatically wrong, Aston won't get rid of Stroll, plus they have Drugovich waiting in the wings, but it would be interesting who would partner Drugovich once Alonso retires or Stroll is kicked out.
No dilemma,checo is perfect
2:44
I thought this was Oscar Piastri for a second
To me, if Checo manages to win it this year, he´ll do a Rosberg. And if he doesn´t he´ll leave at the end of his contract next season. Whenever he leaves, I think Yuki is the right call, Norris v Verstappen we´ll be too risky, but considering it´s RB, they´ll probably do it
yuki lol, no
@Ryan Cuda I mean as a safe bet, it’s actually yes. Norris, Ricciardo will come in for blood.
perez is perfect for red bull, red bull may not be perfect for perez. what kind of f1 driver really wants to play second fiddle for the rest of their career? red bull would be very reluctant to let checo leave. he is too slow to really be a threat to max and he is a full on team player who can take a result when max does not. exactly what red bull and max want.
ideally, red bull want yuki tsunoda after sergio leaves whenever that is. yuki is on his 3rd season and is doing a very consistent, calm headed job currently and that is what red bull wants. someone who can score wins when max cannot but someone who is also too slow to challenge him when there are no problems
I strangely put 2021 down to Mercedes timidness in strategy in France, AD, US and a few other races. Perez being close is what allowed Red Bull to go bold and scared Mercedes into racing conservatively. Let's not forget that Lewis also would've had enough of a gap to box for new mediums or softs at that lap 55 SC if Checo didn't hold him up.
Well as speaking from 21/07/2023 , it shows that Checo also has folded under Max´s performance!
Palmer wasn't horrendous, he just wasn't that good. Gasly's Super Formula title wasn't hilarious, it was unfortunate
Daniel Kyvyat has had an unfortunate career in F1
Frankly, the dynamics of Red Bull seem super toxic. I mean, it seems like they're always looking for the next wunderkind to challenge the established veteran stars and either they sink (like Speed, Kvyat, Gasly, and Albon) or they swim (like Vettel, Ricciardo, and Verstappen). But it also seems like there's very little time for adaptation and development at Red Bull. There doesn't seem to be time to learn the car and adapt to the team.
It's to prevent time and resource wasting. Better to know in 10 races then 48. They have been around and know what qualities a champion possesses. Generally, it's the tenacity to rise up after adversity and demonstrate a dogged determination to succeed in addition to talent.
That start aged like milk huh?
Great video! Must have taken forever to put together
Thanks for pointing out the obvious 🤣
Danny is definitely only at Red Bull for publicity. Let’s be real. We need to forget how he was years ago. Dude is washed out. I’d love to see him in a car again so he can prove my point. Red Bull only grabbed him because he is good for $$$ he is more of a celebrity than a driver.
this video aged like milk
Such a good video again❤
Yuki sooner rather than later will be in that Red bull. It's no longer just Helmut or Horner calling the shots. Ford CEO is a Perez fan. The Red bull CEO is a Yuki fan and a known critic of how Max handled the Brazil situation. (Context: Post Brazil 2022 there were some camera shots of the CEO yelling at Helmut Marko and honrer although the finger waving was pointed towards Helmut. It's now known inside the paddock that Red bull boards have Red bull racing aren't on the same page. Interview after rumours of Alpha being sold asked towards Helmut who simply said I have had 1 meeting with him so far and hoping to talk sometime in the future. Red bull also outlined the plain for F1 team in recent march Report (publicly traded companies are legally obligated to provide this) which showed Liam or Daniel may be placed at alpha tauri if anything happens to Red bull drivers and Yuki will replace them, also it noted that all contract from February of 2022 will be under Red bull management not Red bull racing
Hahhahahahaha i see the comments and i laugh more and more. THIS AGED WELL
Norris is the perfect replacement for perez
Well…this aged poorly
Wow, Gasly has pretty eyes...
Vergne was also asked to comeback for 2019 instead of Kvyat but he turned it down to stay in FE
This aged well
Nicely done 👍🏼
I think Checo will leave after his contract is up. He wants to spend time with his family and the fact that more races are being added, he has said he will likely retire if more races are going to be added.
nah he has a couple more years in him, as his dad said no too long ago, sure more races will be added but there will be a point we’re all the drivers are going to say no and also a point we’re it isn’t even possible, he said he wouldn’t be here if he didn’t believe he would be champion
Right now RB have no worries about who to replace Checo due to how dominant the car is. As long as that is the case there is no point in replacing him. This is the scenario RB needed in order to redevelop their driver programme.
The only dilemma is caused by those who need controversy. Same people who need likes, clicks and views to make a living.
So Sainz could have been the Red Bull 2nd driver?
Red Bull(including Alpha Tauri) really needs to realise that Rookies need time to get used to the formula 1 world. Most Rookies need at least 1-2 years. If they want drivers that deliver instantly don't. sign. rookies. Of course there are Rookies that are really good already in their first year, but these are exceptional talents.
this is perez record at red bull 49 grand prixs 600 points 5 wins 9 2nds 6 3rds
This didn't age well
I like checo very much. I think he's the best second driver red bull could ask for in the past couple of years, given their track record, and even though he's been closer than ever to max, I'm slightly disappointed in him this season. I actually (or naively) thought he could fight at the same level as Max, but I now see that as virtually impossible for him to be world champion, other than max having serious reliability issues from now on. The Miami gp was really an eye opener and just showed how fast max really is. Checo kept trying to find excuses saying RB didn't give him the best strategy, but he was simply slower, losing p1 despite an enormous advantage. Now I believe checo's real objective this year is to fend off Alonso from getting P2 in the driver's championship. That's just unacceptable, tbh.
11:50 didnt Christain say he tried to sign Lando
The intro aged like milk lol.
Signing up a rookie to drive a top team like red bull is crazy.
So, current rumor, YOU started is Palmer to replace Sergio? Ever heard of Palmer of the week?
Poor guy was cursed by this video ;(
Fantastic video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍👍.
Perez will be all right, as long as he remembers that at RBR everything is about Max.
People seem to forget Checo been in the sport for over a decade, was a hot young talent when he come into the circus and was best of the rest in 2020. He is no Max, Lewis or Alonso but he might just be the best next thing to a top championship driver and pretty much the perfect fit for any team wanting to fight for a championship as a 2nd driver.
Not just best of the rest. Better than one of the red bulls....by a lot.
he was best of the rest most of the hybrid era when rp where barely in the midfield, as shown by a fairly solid driver in ocon not getting incredible results
he had a pink mercedes in 2020, ric was the actual best of the rest in 2020 imo
@@mj.03 ignoring 2020, in 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, all of these he was best of the rest when he had a midfield car, in 2020 he was better than albon in a car worse than his
Perez is the absolute perfect driver for Red Bull. Can push hard, drive on the edge and keep it there. Sounds like fences have been mended for internal friction. I hope they extend him and keep the stability and win constructors championships for years to come! I’m sure a few drivers titles will be mixed in there also. 😉
In my opinion, it could literally anyone, tbh as long as Max is happy with the other driver
Checo is doing the right thing this season going for a title fight.
He knows it's now or never for him he's 34 now and any team on the grid would love to sign him for a few more years but what he can't get is a championship winning car so it's now or never for him
LFG CHECO 🔥
They should have put Sainz in second Red Bull for 2019,but yeah those two don't get along sadly...
Maybe in the past.
If Lewis is undoubtably the first racer of Mercedes you could simply apply the same logic at Red Bull and simply ignore the whole question, no matter what points, no matter what times.
Max is the first driver, no issue.
There, problem solved.
This did not age well
Redbull never use the "2nd driver" role at the first place.. They just only care about the performance not the name or status..
Help me with this one 🤣🤣🤣
@@Ponchov009 Easy just look at 2010, 2015, 2018.. And you notice they never really use "2nd driver" system in their racing operation
Lando going to RB is a no go for me. He's already been offered the seat so many times and has declined every time. Unless something crazy happens I don't see it.
I feel that Checo has now fully established himself at Red Bull and has made himself wanted at the team, to the point where I see no reason for Red Bull to want to drop him. I feel that when Checo eventually does leave Red Bull, it'll be on his own accord and not the team's.
Daniel in my opinion has done nothing to show he deserves to replace Checo. You're only as good as your last performance, and Daniel choked so hard at McLaren. He's only at Red Bull because he's great for marketing, and probably because Horner felt sorry for him to a degree.
Do they have a dilemma. I dont see they have any issues.
I would add though Aldas that Horner and Helmut creating an environment where the second driver is constantly under pressure kinda aided to they poor performances at times though.
It will end in tears
I heard about max and jps wanting nico in 2021 but they went for checo, have no idea if thats true but i always wondered why didnt they never considerated hulkenberg, if someone could enlighten me on this