Fundamentals to balance and control a car in drift (Nissan 350Z)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ค. 2021
- Drift driving instructor uses a 350Z to explain the key skills beginners need to learn how to drift through donuts and figure 8's. Learn to dial in your driving and control your car at the limit!
Thanks to Mr. K for letting me drift his Nissan 350Z during our most recent drift school event. If you'd like to learn more from me or ask questions about drift techniques, tune in to my weekly livestream every Friday from 9pm central time here on TH-cam!
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Drifting in the rain exaggerates all of a car's existing strengths and weaknesses, and also slows everything down so new drivers have more time to react and learn the timing and balance for drifting. It's a double-edged sword, but one you can learn a lot from!
Nice,great video keep it up 🤙🏽
the joys of scotland get plenty snow, and everyone stays home but the beemers empty roads even the police cant be bothered comin out x
best drift teacher i've ever seen. I don't understand why every video i watched about how to drift they never explain when you use the throttle but you explained it perfectly thank you so much!
Thanks!
It would have been awesome to see him drive and you explain after as well. Otherwise great video.
That’s great feedback, I’ll keep that in mind for future vids! This was a spur of the moment filming and it was kinda tough shooting outside the car in the rain, but thanks for the suggestion, I’ll definitely keep it in mind!
I'm about to attend my first drift event and this seems super helpful. Thank you.
Bro. Watching this irl video is so cool. I'm used to all of your sim vids. It is soooooo similar that it blew my mind how it's just like friday streams minus the cost and obvious damage factor irl lol. Amazing video my dude
Haha yeah I’m just chilling and chatting and pointing at things one handed. What’s wild is I actually drive better than sim because my old friend weight shift is back in the picture and I’m not distracted reading chat 😂
Thanks kame, your video's help alot!!
Awesome, I love to help people learn to drift better, so I’m glad to hear it!
That was actually really helpful, thanks Ben
We take guys from having never driven a manual car to acing figure 8’s and sometimes even linking a very tiny slow course in one day 🤙🏻 Its solid advice that translates to simulators too, assuming your sim hardware has good self steer like a belt drive or direct drive, anyway 👌🏻
Kame Trick doing the lords work.
Good to hear from you, dude! And yeah this was a fun event...just a glimpse into what it’s like to learn from me during a ride along!
Damn, I gotta do this in DiRT Rally sometime
Dang this gonna be useful when i have the slippery drive test for my licence
Also just found out your and it seems good keep up.
Thank you! I really enjoy bringing more ppl into drifting and helping them enjoy it by showing them the ropes 👌🏻
If you are looking for future content ideas. I would greatly enjoy a video on how to do various forms of drift car control. IRL or on Assetto since the basic concept should be the same.
For example, long wide radius corners, if you are in second and you can’t seem to link the entire corner without throwing a manji in, what can you do?
Or if you are doing a high speed entry (think FD Atlanta style) you pull the hand brake to enter, but you are still carrying too much speed, or you spin out on entry.
I feel like drifting is composed of:
If I experience this situation I have several “levers” to pull to try and salvage the situation, more throttle, less throttle, foot brake, hand brake, more steering, less steering, gear up (IE more wheel speed) etc.
Sometimes in my drift practice I find myself in these strange situations and I struggle to theorize exactly which method will resolve my issue.
I feel like these videos could be relatively easy to film by just going to corner X and entering it several ways and then discussing what you did / didn’t do.
Love the videos! Thanks a ton!
That’s a great bit of feedback! I can’t promise how soon I’ll work it into my content strategy but I definitely have more tutorials on my agenda for this season!
@@KameTrick thank you sir!
The drift professor
You probably didn’t learn anything new though, you’ve got these key points pretty well figured out!🙌🏻
Hi Kame! thanks for your videos!...Have a request for you...can you do a tutorial on AC about how to drift down hill on a medium speed track or touge course. If I make a mistake on uphill I will make ten on downhill...and also how to drift at high speed on straights....thanks! :)
I’ll keep that in mind for a future video! 👍🏻
Wow this is really similar to AC
Also, very good video and explanations, good job 👍
Hehe you mean AC is fairly similar to real drifting 😉
Thanks!
@@KameTrick yea that's what I meant
"you dont have to do anything with your hands" *cries in bmw front suspension*
I was *so close* to popping in a Ricky Bobby gif when putting this together 🤣
Add caster and it will ve fine. If it os e36. M3 control arm bushings and camber plates on top or m3 top mounts will fix this problem
damage tho man wud love ti see alot more irl teaching also explaining different setups like if u slam ur car vs arch gaps, camber setup like what happens if you add too much. my maxpeeding rods are maxxed on the front lols how tyre choice can change the feel. fat front skinny rear slow cars good or bad what happens if ur running too fat a tyre also tyre pressures x
Everything interacts together so it definitely takes a while to understand it all. Though plenty of ppl drive just fine without knowing more than the cockpit control 🤙🏻
Is a hand break being used? Or is it not needed since its raining, not really a car guy so it has me a little confused
No handbrake or even clutch for this, just driving with 1 foot (throttle only)
Cut wheel and apply throttle at a speed low enough the car doesn’t understeer, catch the drift by letting off throttle momentarily, and then balance it with throttle for as long as you want to continue turning in that direction
OK ok help me out here I want to know if Im thinking correctly ... So you start the drift with whatever method clutch kick, flick, whatever... Then release the wheel as the rear spins out.. Then as the rear spins out and you're good with the angle you "catch it" by catching the wheel and giving the car gas? More angle=more gas needed? So it's the downforce on the rear plus the increased rotation from the rwd that makes the rear end "catch" or am I going wrong somewhere? Thank you
That’s really close 👍🏻 So the “catch” is all about getting the right amount and timing of countersteer, yes, but also a common key part is to release throttle for a few moments to help the car stop rotating. You don’t always have to, but as far as breaking down the most basic way, the “catch” is frequently both countersteer and temporary throttle release ✅
Grabbing the wheel again, isn’t what stops the car from rotating. Your countersteer and throttle adjustments do that. Grabbing the wheel again is just what you do to set up for maintaining the drift 👍🏻
@@KameTrick ahh okay I see now thanks so much for the response
“Give it a blip then balance it got it”.Done deal,mom get the camera.
3:32 is that why Bunta was able to do a no hands drift in Initial D?
It’s an absolutely massive part of it, yes! Though 99.99% of the time if you let go of the wheel mid-drift the car will not remain stable, so there’s definitely some anime superpowers going on there, too. I like to think it’s theoretically possible, but probably not humanly possible 🤷🏻♂️
Why do you have the big grey thing behind the steering wheel what is it for
This was a students car at a drift school I was instructing at, so I don’t know the full story behind it. My guess is that it was part of the factory wheel buttons, like maybe a cruise control selector or something, and he kept it for convenience on the street 🤷🏻♂️
It’s the cruise control buttons and 350s also use those to switch maps if your tuned and if you have an aftermarket wheel you can just have it dangling somewhere or leave it like him
Stock diff in this car?
It felt like a welded to me. That said, I learned on a drifter with an S13 VLSD for 2 or 3 years and it wasn’t too bad. I’ve also got a 370Z drift video in the channel library with a VLSD and we linked the track in the dry easily, so as long as it isn’t an open diff and it’s in good working order, you’re all set.
What gear are you in?
First gear for this demo, in a bigger space with more grip it works the same in 2nd or 3rd, you just need more room and some clutch kicks if it starts to bog down the engine
Hello hello, how much do you think it would cost to build a 350Z for drifting that's also daily drivable?
a 350Z is very driftable in its stock form and is a great car for learning. Unless you want to focus on drifting alot. If that's the case I recommend you get a car for drifting and another one for daily driving unless you want to be walking a lot because a drift car will get beaten up. At one point it just makes sense to have it for one purpose only and not worry about MOT :)
@@tracksnail272 ohh okay thanks for extensive explanation
Like TrackSnail said, you can drift a stick one, but the ideal budget setup is coilovers, an angle kit, welded diff and hydro ebrake, plus an extra set of OEM wheels to save some money...probably 3-5K plus the cost of the car itself depending on what specific gear you go with. I haven’t priced out a build but that’s my rough guess 👍🏻
@@KameTrick ayy thanks man! Appreciate the response. Keep up the good work.
@@nikhilwadekar565 will do, see you in the next video!
I wanna see the other guy give it a bit of a go
Yeah I’ve gotten a few insightful comments along those lines😅 He did better but I was off to the next driver to help them improve so I didn’t get that footage 🤦🏻♂️ I’ll be keeping these comments in mind next time I record during IRL coaching sessions
@@KameTrickthank you for the reply. I realize this is a bit of an old comment lol. Just know it comes from a fan. It's not criticism just honest curiosity . I recently joined discord to find a general or beginners channel to find people to play with but couldn't find a general tab. This could be a bug with discord mobile. If not it would be cool to consider a general chat where people can find other fans of the same skill level
@@KameTrick thank you for your time and your response. You seem like a nice guy in your videos lol. A stand up guy we would call it around here
Try not to throw the wheel, it causes imprecision and it will cause you to spin sometimes
Wdym by throw?
@@a.k.3811 like forcing the wheel to counter steer
@Kame Trick Can you teach me too 😂
Fortunately the fundamentals apply no matter the car (as long as it’s RWD) so my videos can be a guide to help you get pretty far, I’d think 😉
And this was all in first gear ?
The Z’s have pretty long gearing so yes, it was all in 1st in this chassis. My 6 speed S13 with a 4.08 rear end I do everything in 2nd. The gearing matters more than the gear, if that makes sense…so if 1st is too short, use 2nd (same goes for 3rd thru 5th on tracks too, lol)
@@KameTrick thank you sir
ah we dont even get to see the other dude try it, we know you can drift I wanted to see if the other guy could do it now
My bad, filming this was just a spur of the moment thing otherwise I would have tried to. I was off to help other drivers after this clip!😅 That said, he did start doing better. Before this he was having issues with either gripping up or spinning in the figure 8 transition and after he got that sorted. All that was left was to work on the timing of when to transition so he didn’t hit the cone or come up too close to it 👍🏻
Does he know how to drive stick
He does, but hadn’t done much street stuff or legal events prior to this 🤷🏻♂️ Honestly I was the same since I didn’t have a no-consequences driving simulator to build my comfort zone with back in the day-I tried to drift my low power car without clutch kicking it or anything for a while cause I was worried something would break. Those days are long gone now of course, but it’s weird when you first start trying to slide cars. Especially without simulator practice 😅
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Is it just me or is sim drifting/racing not even close to real life? I've been racing auto cross and participating in small drift events for years and I just cannot get the hang of this sim driving on assetto Corsa. Is there something I'm missing here? The cars are overly twitchy, they plow out of every corner when not under throttle, I'm just so confused
I think there’s a 99% likelihood it’s because you aren’t feeling the weight shift like you do in real life. If you could, you’d probably be terrified of your driving in sim (not just you but most people...it took me a long time to finally begin to substitute visual references for weight shift and speed sensing I do with my sense of balance in real cars)
@@KameTrick appreciate the response. My buddy was telling me to spend a few dozen hours only driving slow vehicles that don't handle well with all assists off to get a feel for the in-game speeds and physics, so I've been doing career mode and also some laps on the nurburgring with a Miata and a fiat
@@corvette_jake7225 miata lapping is absolutely a good way to get a feel for it. Then for drift cars I recommend the World Drift Tour Street pack
This guy really needs to just understand cars better I think.
I think he needs to understand what drifting is or how it really works. Maybe he needs to spend some time in AC 😅