Hey there! Great video! I would also like to add a few things to the stuff that you already mentioned... 1.Definitely agree with the housing advice. If you are living in an expensive apartment, it really is best to just downgrade. Roommates are a great idea if you have the house space. Living with parents is good but may not be an option for everyone for any number of reasons. I have seen people spending thousands in rent per month just to be near "the action" or want entertainment on the weekend or whatever the case may be. If you can get into a cheaper place, look for a cheaper place. Especially if it isn't necessary. 2. Car payments ? What car payments ? Seriously, if you are serious about achieving LL the best thing all together is get out of it all together by buying outright or downgrade to much smaller payments. Something that is not going to set you back, that is good on gas, and is relatively inexpensive to insure. A BMW, Jaguar, Range Rover or Mercedes is not a necessity and are several hundred bucks alone per month, and if they arent covered under warranty, you are screwed in any unexpected repairs which almost always seems to be the case with luxury vehicles. Forget big gas guzzling V8 sports cars as well. Again, those vehicles are not necessities and may even set you back. Public transportation is another option depending on where you are. Forget Uber or Lyft. 3. Definitely agree with ditching fast food and coffee's. Cigarettes too. That includes lotteries, pre-packaged fast food at the store, gaming and any sort of drugs. 4. Cell phone service: The most basic plan you can get to survive. No upgrading phones every year(seriously, does the next generation of Iphone really do anything noteworthy or different than the last generation?). 5. Learn a trade and or skill to move into a higher paying position. There are plenty of careers that are in desperate need of people and actually pay very well and will help you get to your goal quicker as well.They're always in desperate need for truckers and that profession pays very well even just starting out. Sticking around at places like Mcdonald's, Burger King or Taco Bell is never gonna get you to your goal unless your using that as a second job and not a primary job. 6. Start building your credit score NOW. Loans are an excellent and faster way to get to LL, but if your credit score is in the tank, it will only set you back that much more. Pay off bills, pay off credit cards, and start ditching the debt fast. 7. Cable ? Not a chance in hell. Antennas or converter boxes ? Well that's more like it. Basic internet/wifi service. Forget the gaming speeds. 8. Clothes ? Just the basics needed for your job and for home. No more $50 tshirts or $250 shoes especially if you don't need them. These are just some additional ones I thought of.
@@Cyborg4Life Thanks for responding man! That is my goal and in the process, I have to be aware of what I am spending and cut back in anyway that I possibly can to have my surgery. My goal is to take a loan out next year. As a person at 5'3, this surgery would be a life changing experience. If that means I eat out less or or get rid of stuff to have it, then that's what it means.
@@nordshackleford9971 I am 5'3.5 as well. I am working on an IT degree in Norway and will use the first 2 years of working to build up a savings and then get a loan. I am doing this cause I was supposed to be taller but was very sick during development. My doctor said others like me are towered by their siblings. It hurts knowing I was supposed to be much taller. But I will fix that and will get to experience life as I was meant too. If things go to plan I'll be inline with my original projected height within 5 years. Take care and best of luck to you man. I hope you're able to make your goals.
Hey man great vids your the only one out there with this stuff is great to see it just wondering bout how soon after surgery can u work out even a little not during the lengthening phase but even during consolidation phase if it's possible not really a must I know id rather focus on health and safety and things goin well but did u do a vid on this subject?
Great question. So I was doing some wheelchair upper body training during lengthening but during consolidation I was able to crutch around a less-packed gym and did things like upper body. In PT I was able to do some light calf raises during consolidation and eventually squats etc. But depending on how old you are as younger people recover fast and can train much sooner as things just heal faster
@@Cyborg4Life that's great I wasn't too sure about the surgery but after seeing your vids and other research I've booked in for lon method in Turkey but was just even if light upper body can be doin that a big bonus thanks for your reply 👍
Great points and huge fan of your channel and journey I’m 19 and I’m currently 5’10.. I wished I had the 6 foot mark but the goal is to be 6’1 and have that surgery by age of 26. Is it possible
@@takemeasahydrationreminder662 I wanted the surgery couple months ago and now I currently don’t want it soo Yee u probably right !! But maybe idk yet 😂
@@takemeasahydrationreminder662 Everyone has a different goal. I can see why 5'9 wants to be taller since Europe/US 5'11 is usually the standard height for guys. But yea I think getting it at 5'5 has much more value
Hey bro! Thanks for the info. I actually messaged you a while back about me shortening a femur due to leg length discrepancy and I remember you saying you had the same issue but I think that your femurs are not of equal length and neither are your tibia/fibula’s but altogether they are equal in length. So that you no longer have leg length discrepancy. I was wonder if that had any effect on you physically for example at the gym if having equal leg lengths but differing lengths of the individual parts in exercises such as lunges. Like if it feels weird to have that sort of thing. Reason I’m asking is this doctor who ended up shortening my femur to match the other missed the mark a bit. And now to finish off fixing the rest of the leg length discrepancy I’m thinking of lengthening my tibia/ fibula of the shorter leg to finally have equal leg length and finally hit the gym but though the legs should be equal i too would have slight differing lengths in femurs and tibias. Also looking at costs since this surgery would not be covered as the shortening was since I was close to 2 cm leg length discrepancy. Thanks bro I know I mighta worded this too long.
Depends on where you get it done. Are you in US or Europe or where do you want to get it done? But around $85,000 USD is average is baseline in US and about $65,000 around world
My best advice is there’s a method called LON method in turkey that will only cost you 30,000$ including a 3 months stay in turkey surgery price and plane tickets too and from turkey much less than 75k that’s what I’m saving up for because me saving 70k will take far too long
@@crayonjambe7515 The ilizarov is only an external circular fixator. The LON method combines internal and external fixators (the external can be circular or monolateral) and the process is faster and you get the external fixator off 2 times quicker. However, it's not recommended for the femur, only for the tibias. Anyway you should look on the internet for more precise information, and cyborg4life has a video in his channel about this LL method
Yes I think that's one way of doing it but I think many people can achieve 6cm on the femur with little to no problems. But I do understand for proportion and conservative athleticism sake so it could work. And my regards to you from the United States.
You can do it before LL just gradually as with everything else. Too much too fast can cause excessive tightness that can work against you. Just train hard and stretch and all will be good
Plz, answer me man. If I’m 5’3” (160cm) how tall can I get? Using safe means not radicals...could I be like (165-168)? Please tell me how much can I increase
It is usually safe yes, but to be sure, only a LL surgeon can make sure you are flexible enough to attain. But typically it is what patients do achieve
They do 16cm now? I can't say for sure on the price how various costs add up but I don't think the base price is that low. It is $80k for one so if two looking at around $170k as tibias are more pricey
Why is it that surgeons charge the same amount for 1 inch as 5 or more inches? Shouldn't a less increase in height be cheaper due to a quicker recovery time?
I wish that were the case lol. But we pay for the surgery, device etc. The amount of length is all dependent on the individual's goals therefore it can't be priced. It isn't exactly a fast-food restaurant drive-through..."would you like a small, medium or large coke" 😂
HI VICOR...MAKE A VIDEO ON LIMB LENGHTNING HOSPITALS IN INDIA, BECAUSE WHEN EVER PEOPLE WANT TO GO FOR EXPENSIVE SURGERY FIRST COMES INTO MIND IS "INDIA"... HOPE YOU WILL MAKE A VIDEO ON THIS....
Tell me a good doctor in India and I will see if I can reach out to them. I only know of Dr. Parihar who hasn't had very bad complications. Any others?
Hi dude,can i know if i will be able to lift again? i am 168cm,i want to reach 175cm (average height) so i need to gain 7/8cm are 7 or 8 centimeters safe in the future? i mean i will regain my strenght and not nerf me? so i can lift again doing squats,deadlift etc...right now ican lift 220 (deadlift) so post surgery i will be able to do again or improve? or even help me for hop thursters
You can definitely workout and regain strength again after the surgery. It will be different and it may take time to adapt but it can happen. As far as high level athletic sports such as team sports where intense agility is required that may take a bit of a hit until you can adapt properly. But lifting would just be healing, rehabbing, rebuilding the muscle and working on the new biomechanics within the few years after surgery. Crazy work ethic is required much more than one thinks
So I heard that Dr. Mahboubian does this surgery for as low as 45k. Is this true? If that's the case, then it would probably take me as low as two years to save for it.
Hii bro you make such a great content i have one doubt if go for limb lenghthening and we didn't get the right proportion. If we went for femur so our tibia will look smaller. For not having this wrong proportion can we go for femur and tibia 5 cm each at the same time?
Helo brother plz Guide me I want this procedure im 5"5 and really want some more inches .. Unfortunately im from a poor family but I just want this procedure for myself since long time ago and I want your gardnes brother kindly tell me where should I do this procedure in best price im 35 male plz help me and tell me what is best for me
It’s disgusting how THIS is the most expensive elective surgery… most elective surgeries are for women. Of course they make those cheap, but when men want something they price gouge.
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Hey there! Great video! I would also like to add a few things to the stuff that you already mentioned...
1.Definitely agree with the housing advice. If you are living in an expensive apartment, it really is best to just downgrade. Roommates are a great idea if you have the house space. Living with parents is good but may not be an option for everyone for any number of reasons. I have seen people spending thousands in rent per month just to be near "the action" or want entertainment on the weekend or whatever the case may be. If you can get into a cheaper place, look for a cheaper place. Especially if it isn't necessary.
2. Car payments ? What car payments ? Seriously, if you are serious about achieving LL the best thing all together is get out of it all together by buying outright or downgrade to much smaller payments. Something that is not going to set you back, that is good on gas, and is relatively inexpensive to insure. A BMW, Jaguar, Range Rover or Mercedes is not a necessity and are several hundred bucks alone per month, and if they arent covered under warranty, you are screwed in any unexpected repairs which almost always seems to be the case with luxury vehicles. Forget big gas guzzling V8 sports cars as well. Again, those vehicles are not necessities and may even set you back. Public transportation is another option depending on where you are. Forget Uber or Lyft.
3. Definitely agree with ditching fast food and coffee's. Cigarettes too. That includes lotteries, pre-packaged fast food at the store, gaming and any sort of drugs.
4. Cell phone service: The most basic plan you can get to survive. No upgrading phones every year(seriously, does the next generation of Iphone really do anything noteworthy or different than the last generation?).
5. Learn a trade and or skill to move into a higher paying position. There are plenty of careers that are in desperate need of people and actually pay very well and will help you get to your goal quicker as well.They're always in desperate need for truckers and that profession pays very well even just starting out. Sticking around at places like Mcdonald's, Burger King or Taco Bell is never gonna get you to your goal unless your using that as a second job and not a primary job.
6. Start building your credit score NOW. Loans are an excellent and faster way to get to LL, but if your credit score is in the tank, it will only set you back that much more. Pay off bills, pay off credit cards, and start ditching the debt fast.
7. Cable ? Not a chance in hell. Antennas or converter boxes ? Well that's more like it. Basic internet/wifi service. Forget the gaming speeds.
8. Clothes ? Just the basics needed for your job and for home. No more $50 tshirts or $250 shoes especially if you don't need them.
These are just some additional ones I thought of.
Thanks for adding this! I agree with everything you said. It's all about being aware of our spending and staying focused on the goal!
@@Cyborg4Life Thanks for responding man! That is my goal and in the process, I have to be aware of what I am spending and cut back in anyway that I possibly can to have my surgery. My goal is to take a loan out next year. As a person at 5'3, this surgery would be a life changing experience. If that means I eat out less or or get rid of stuff to have it, then that's what it means.
@@nordshackleford9971 I am 5'3.5 as well. I am working on an IT degree in Norway and will use the first 2 years of working to build up a savings and then get a loan. I am doing this cause I was supposed to be taller but was very sick during development. My doctor said others like me are towered by their siblings. It hurts knowing I was supposed to be much taller. But I will fix that and will get to experience life as I was meant too. If things go to plan I'll be inline with my original projected height within 5 years.
Take care and best of luck to you man. I hope you're able to make your goals.
@@nordshackleford9971 how are you today ?
@@peteasmr2952 good mentality I hope you will achieve it and I will too !
All valid points. Thank you for giving the real heart to heart reality of saving and paying for this procedure. You Rock, Victor!
Come for the LL tips, stay for the financial advice
Bro, you got me with coffe.
Love u brother!❤️☄️☄️☄️
Hey man great vids your the only one out there with this stuff is great to see it just wondering bout how soon after surgery can u work out even a little not during the lengthening phase but even during consolidation phase if it's possible not really a must I know id rather focus on health and safety and things goin well but did u do a vid on this subject?
Great question. So I was doing some wheelchair upper body training during lengthening but during consolidation I was able to crutch around a less-packed gym and did things like upper body. In PT I was able to do some light calf raises during consolidation and eventually squats etc. But depending on how old you are as younger people recover fast and can train much sooner as things just heal faster
@@Cyborg4Life that's great I wasn't too sure about the surgery but after seeing your vids and other research I've booked in for lon method in Turkey but was just even if light upper body can be doin that a big bonus thanks for your reply 👍
@@u_cant_handle_the_truth hey man! Any updates on your surgery? How much did that method cost you?
Great points and huge fan of your channel and journey I’m 19 and I’m currently 5’10.. I wished I had the 6 foot mark but the goal is to be 6’1 and have that surgery by age of 26. Is it possible
Thanks! 2 inches is possible yes
Yours is just body dysmorphobia my dude, I'm here sitting at 5'5 hoping to be 5'9 that's 1 inches shorter than your current height lol 😂
@@takemeasahydrationreminder662 I wanted the surgery couple months ago and now I currently don’t want it soo Yee u probably right !! But maybe idk yet 😂
@@takemeasahydrationreminder662 Everyone has a different goal. I can see why 5'9 wants to be taller since Europe/US 5'11 is usually the standard height for guys. But yea I think getting it at 5'5 has much more value
@@TasX5'9 is the American average...
Forget about the height... can we appreciate how handsome this guy is? and im a straight guy LOL
Haha I try jk lol
In Turkey it cost you €24000 that is including Flight and hotel for 90 days
Where
I'm 18 and super worried about being able to raise enough capital after college 😭
Hey bro! Thanks for the info. I actually messaged you a while back about me shortening a femur due to leg length discrepancy and I remember you saying you had the same issue but I think that your femurs are not of equal length and neither are your tibia/fibula’s but altogether they are equal in length. So that you no longer have leg length discrepancy. I was wonder if that had any effect on you physically for example at the gym if having equal leg lengths but differing lengths of the individual parts in exercises such as lunges. Like if it feels weird to have that sort of thing. Reason I’m asking is this doctor who ended up shortening my femur to match the other missed the mark a bit. And now to finish off fixing the rest of the leg length discrepancy I’m thinking of lengthening my tibia/ fibula of the shorter leg to finally have equal leg length and finally hit the gym but though the legs should be equal i too would have slight differing lengths in femurs and tibias. Also looking at costs since this surgery would not be covered as the shortening was since I was close to 2 cm leg length discrepancy. Thanks bro I know I mighta worded this too long.
Thanks Victor and Dacawone
How much is this surgery ? It would help to know the price so you might be having to save for years
Depends on where you get it done. Are you in US or Europe or where do you want to get it done? But around $85,000 USD is average is baseline in US and about $65,000 around world
Love this 👍❤️
I hope the price doesent skyrocket by the chance I save 75k 😂
It won’t
it won’t I hope lol im trying to do it too
My best advice is there’s a method called LON method in turkey that will only cost you 30,000$ including a 3 months stay in turkey surgery price and plane tickets too and from turkey much less than 75k that’s what I’m saving up for because me saving 70k will take far too long
@@calebgetchell9832 is the LON method the same as the ilizarov method by any chance? I haven't heard of the LON
@@crayonjambe7515 The ilizarov is only an external circular fixator. The LON method combines internal and external fixators (the external can be circular or monolateral) and the process is faster and you get the external fixator off 2 times quicker. However, it's not recommended for the femur, only for the tibias. Anyway you should look on the internet for more precise information, and cyborg4life has a video in his channel about this LL method
Hi
What do you think about lengthening 7cm (4cm in the femur and 3cm in the tibia) instead of lengthening a single bone 7cm?
Greetings from Argentina
Yes I think that's one way of doing it but I think many people can achieve 6cm on the femur with little to no problems. But I do understand for proportion and conservative athleticism sake so it could work. And my regards to you from the United States.
Is it preferable to do weightlifting before LL surgery to increase muscles flexibility ? or if I do so, I will tight my muscles?! 😕
You can do it before LL just gradually as with everything else. Too much too fast can cause excessive tightness that can work against you. Just train hard and stretch and all will be good
You did an episode about a surgeon in turkey but I can’t find it… can you please share his info if you still have it 🙏🏻
Hmmm not sure
@@Cyborg4Life if you have any recommendation for a doctor or a clinic in turkey please share as we lost hope of doing it in Canada
Plz, answer me man. If I’m 5’3” (160cm) how tall can I get? Using safe means not radicals...could I be like (165-168)? Please tell me how much can I increase
Some people are able to get 5-8cm on the femurs so that would be 168cm if your LL surgeon says it's possible.
Cyborg 4 Life but it’s safe?
@@Thehourspass It can be if you are flexible enough and learn to work hard at PT yes
This is pretty late but what’s the average monthly payment for loan options like Care Credit? Is it comparable to normal car payments?
Not entirely sure but when I find out I'll let you know
What do you recommend for someone thats 4"10 height? I really want this surgery but idk where to go or what surgery to have i want to be 5"5 atleast
I recommend a consultation with a trustworthy surgeon to start
@@Cyborg4Life what surgeon you used?
I am 5'5 at 16 very close to 17 you making me feel grateful to be this height
i am 171 and 20 yo,are 3 inches safe for my legs in femur?
It is usually safe yes, but to be sure, only a LL surgeon can make sure you are flexible enough to attain. But typically it is what patients do achieve
The max 16 cm in the LimbplastX will costs more than 100k?
They do 16cm now? I can't say for sure on the price how various costs add up but I don't think the base price is that low. It is $80k for one so if two looking at around $170k as tibias are more pricey
Why is it that surgeons charge the same amount for 1 inch as 5 or more inches? Shouldn't a less increase in height be cheaper due to a quicker recovery time?
I wish that were the case lol. But we pay for the surgery, device etc. The amount of length is all dependent on the individual's goals therefore it can't be priced. It isn't exactly a fast-food restaurant drive-through..."would you like a small, medium or large coke" 😂
That's why you gotta make sure you get the most for your money.
How much is average LON leg lenghtening sugery cost..?
Lower than internal nails like maybe $20k to $80k but it varies so much I can't say for sure
HI VICOR...MAKE A VIDEO ON LIMB LENGHTNING HOSPITALS IN INDIA, BECAUSE WHEN EVER PEOPLE WANT TO GO FOR EXPENSIVE SURGERY FIRST COMES INTO MIND IS "INDIA"...
HOPE YOU WILL MAKE A VIDEO ON THIS....
Tell me a good doctor in India and I will see if I can reach out to them. I only know of Dr. Parihar who hasn't had very bad complications. Any others?
What about Dr. Sarin?
Hi dude,can i know if i will be able to lift again? i am 168cm,i want to reach 175cm (average height) so i need to gain 7/8cm are 7 or 8 centimeters safe in the future? i mean i will regain my strenght and not nerf me? so i can lift again doing squats,deadlift etc...right now ican lift 220 (deadlift) so post surgery i will be able to do again or improve? or even help me for hop thursters
You can definitely workout and regain strength again after the surgery. It will be different and it may take time to adapt but it can happen. As far as high level athletic sports such as team sports where intense agility is required that may take a bit of a hit until you can adapt properly. But lifting would just be healing, rehabbing, rebuilding the muscle and working on the new biomechanics within the few years after surgery. Crazy work ethic is required much more than one thinks
@@Cyborg4Life okay yeah thanks i see so i will be able to lift again as for agility it needs time,so 7 centimeters will be safe in femur?
Who is best surgeon in india
Dr. Mangal Parihar. ( mangal anand hospital, mumbai)
@@mypotatonails8793 how much he cost
Bro you don't even trust Indians...
So I heard that Dr. Mahboubian does this surgery for as low as 45k. Is this true? If that's the case, then it would probably take me as low as two years to save for it.
It's possible I'm not too familiar on his exact prices but that would be cool
@B a n e I decided to do surgery with mahboubian hes the best i see
@@karimnourel-din-7412how did it go
sadly for me, i always save my money but my parents... nah bro, they be eating them savings 💀💀
Did you have to stay in hospital for long?
Nope 3 days only
how tall were you back then? and how tall are you know? isn't there a natural way
He was 5’7 and he’s now 5’9 I believe...
@@averyjudgementalsoldier8303 he should go for 5.10
@@Hunk_fav
He doesn't care about being taller, he did it to fix a leg length discrepancy
Hii bro you make such a great content i have one doubt if go for limb lenghthening and we didn't get the right proportion. If we went for femur so our tibia will look smaller. For not having this wrong proportion can we go for femur and tibia 5 cm each at the same time?
You can do both limbs but not recommended at the same time. Usually 1 year apart is ideal
@@Cyborg4Life if i go for femur then our body proportion will not look odd?
Helo brother plz Guide me I want this procedure im 5"5 and really want some more inches ..
Unfortunately im from a poor family but I just want this procedure for myself since long time ago and I want your gardnes brother kindly tell me where should I do this procedure in best price im 35 male plz help me and tell me what is best for me
There are options out there have you looked into Dr. Parihar in Mumbai India?
@@Cyborg4Life can you plz tell me how to contact him and afterthat may i give him your's Reference plz
@@abhinavshankar9465 I have tried it is difficult but you can email him via his website
It’s disgusting how THIS is the most expensive elective surgery… most elective surgeries are for women. Of course they make those cheap, but when men want something they price gouge.
I know it's crazy how people take advantage like that
i never smoke
Excellent you're in a good position
Hw much money 4 this surgery sir
Depends on where you get it done but usually $50k to $100k range
@@Cyborg4Life sir 100 k means hw much Indian rupee
Sabi 7,519,550.00 Indian Rupee
@@sabi8564 K means 3 zeroes, like 50,000 or 1,00,000(one lakh) usd.