Subaru BRZ vs Hyundai Genesis - Which Is The Better Buy

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  • We review the Subaru BRZ against a Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T to see which is the best 4cylinder RWD Sports car to buy under $10K and both the BRZ and Gen Coupe are equipped with 255/35R18 Continental ExtremeContactSport Performance tires:
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  • @Shady97342
    @Shady97342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +456

    Now 370z vs 3.8 Genesis on track!

    • @anthony-li5hp
      @anthony-li5hp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      i only drove a z once but from that experience id say there like a japan mustang. fast but a heavy boat that doesnt handle all that well. at least the one i drove was like that

    • @millll111lllI
      @millll111lllI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      370z has about 10 minutes of lapping before it overheats into limp mode

    • @karltaht2370
      @karltaht2370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@anthony-li5hp everyone thinks 370s are heavy but .. they are lighter than E46 M3 lol

    • @jonny8486
      @jonny8486 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The Genesis will be slightly faster because it has a helical diff from the factory. The 370Z has a VSLD and once it starts heating up its pretty much an open LSD. The weight difference is only about 200 lbs in between them with the Z being lighter. I track a 370z and my brother tracks his 3.8 Genesis track spec so I know how it will end lol

    • @anthony-li5hp
      @anthony-li5hp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@karltaht2370 ive never driven one of those. i dont know how much the 370 weighs but i was just commenting on how the one i drove felt to me. maybe it had more to do with the handling than the weight but its a boat in my opinion.

  • @Keithh071823
    @Keithh071823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +783

    I love how you picked the worst Genesis Coupe to do a comparison with.

    • @tC3iii3
      @tC3iii3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Exactly what I was thinking 😂 a bk2 with either engine shafts the BRZ

    • @Glocktism
      @Glocktism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      JP he means a 2012-2014 2.0t to the BRZ. I got a 3.8 and it’s on par with a 350. I4 to i4. V6 to v6

    • @derektimmons3683
      @derektimmons3683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      The 2.0 is a lot more popular at the moment.

    • @blackhorsegaming393
      @blackhorsegaming393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Dude literally picked a based model bk1 no diff no Brembos no nothing a bk1 2.0 is fast enough to walk any brz

    • @Keithh071823
      @Keithh071823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      It's the fact that they picked a the lowest package on the oldest generation using the smallest engine. They picked the only one that a BRZ could "beat". I understand the engine because the 3.8 is more close to the 370z however don't pick the worst preforming 2.0 model on the track you can find and then act like the car preforms worst than a BRZ

  • @TerraFilmTV
    @TerraFilmTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    I would say price wise the 2013^ genesis would have been a better comparison.

    • @The0Shinigami
      @The0Shinigami 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TerraFilmTV yea my 2013 3.8 was 10k

    • @shadowrambo117
      @shadowrambo117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This closeness in hp is what makes it fair. Genesis already has a turbo too. BK2 it’s already a different ballgame that’s more comparable to a Z

    • @striveinc879
      @striveinc879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shadowrambo117 But this is the better buy, not "best NA rear wheel drive car" so it shouldve been a 2013/14 cause they are more similar in price and there is already a track video on another channel with a brz and 2013 coupe and the coupe smacks the brz even with bad brake fade.

  • @miguelsanchez6465
    @miguelsanchez6465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    I really like that you guys put the same tires on both cars. It doesn’t seem fair when 2 cars being compared have 2 totally different tires. Nice work guys, let me know if you need a mk6 golf for a front wheel drive budget track car.

  • @aaroneberle5920
    @aaroneberle5920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I still remember driving a V6 Genesis when they first came out. It was a pretty impressive package for the money. Personally I'd probably get one of those over these 4cyl options.

  • @MrLegion1capone
    @MrLegion1capone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I just love that you can call her geni

  • @ThatOTAKU
    @ThatOTAKU 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really loving these Head-to-Heads. The on-track commentary really gives it that Best Motoring vibes from the old days.

  • @fivespeed3026
    @fivespeed3026 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So glad to see y’all used the same tires on both cars.

  • @Carpet96
    @Carpet96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think this was the best entry level sport car comparison I ever watched, really fun :) . The driving wasn't bad either, you both were about the same level too. The fact that you even put the same tires on both cars... 10/10 would love to be on this track bumper to bumper with both cars 👍

  • @garagecedric
    @garagecedric 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really like that you run same tyres and pads, to many test are done with old random tyres which can throw the comparison of completely!

  • @mrnicktoyou
    @mrnicktoyou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Hyundai have come a long way in the last couple of years. It needs a bigger intercooler if it’s losing that much power after just one run.

    • @Swerzuh
      @Swerzuh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That was a BK1. Not sure why they didn't use a BK2, they were much more refined.

    • @Alex-wb2yw
      @Alex-wb2yw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They have come a long way, but to me they'll always just be Hyundais, and I won't own one. May be silly, but it is what it is.

    • @Swerzuh
      @Swerzuh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Alex-wb2yw How is Scion any better than Hyundai?

    • @mrnicktoyou
      @mrnicktoyou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Alex-wb2yw people said the same things about Japanese cars back in the day. You'll change your mind eventually.

    • @rodvar8051
      @rodvar8051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mrnicktoyou japanese cars were cheap but their materials and their manufacture were excelent and thats something thar koreans still cant copy but you cant expect more from a country that appareance is way more important than quality

  • @alphagenperformance
    @alphagenperformance 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed watching this comparison! Great vid 👍

  • @InterXMission
    @InterXMission 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Man where these dudes finding BRZ's for $10k? a 13' BRZ with 80k miles is still like $16-18k in Texas .

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In Hawaii 10,000 mile brz/86’s go for 10k$

    • @calebuchiha2120
      @calebuchiha2120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Dawg I’m in the market for one and can’t find one for less than 14k lmfao. I don’t know where they finding em cause a 2015 with 47k miles on it, carmax wanted $18,000.

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Caleb Neal for a brz? Come Hawaii people are selling them used for 10k

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Caleb Neal my friend couple months ago sold his 380hp frs for 12$k

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Caleb Neal it’s a real good cheap slow car that can be made fast in my opinion

  • @jons4686
    @jons4686 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic tires for sure! Also a good value compare to the competition. I was at Carter Lake, Oregon a couple of weeks ago and even found out they are not terrible in the snow :)

  • @SBFDonte7
    @SBFDonte7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    2013 Genny 2.0 vs 2013 brz
    would be a different result I believe.

    • @brendandelage119
      @brendandelage119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Donte Smith yeah i raced a stock brz 2013 in my stock 2013 genny and i gapped him 😂😂😂

    • @pedrovera97
      @pedrovera97 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brendan DeLage Lol..

    • @VaunShiz
      @VaunShiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brendandelage119 I've watched Veloster beat those Bk2 turbos lmao 🐢🐢🐢🐢

    • @SBFDonte7
      @SBFDonte7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Clous von A stock veloster isn’t beating a bk2 unless you’re speaking about the N an even then you’re talking about a 2020 product line car (which is suppose to be advanced more so) compared to a vehicle that was discontinued in 2016 the difference stock is 274 vs 275 at 6k rpm. A 2013 veloster vs a 2013 2.0 Genny is losing bud.

  • @trymonster6670
    @trymonster6670 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks like you guys had lot of fun with these cars... i miss cayuga track so bad...
    i test drove the G coupe 2.0T when it first came out . i felt it was really slow but brakes and turned good..
    my uncle bought a brand new brz which i also took for a little drive.. in WOT car feels very under powered but when its on partial throttle it feels like it wants to go fast....

  • @Dr.Westside
    @Dr.Westside 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I've had a Genesis coupe since 2010 160,000 miles later , it's still fantastic .

    • @OnlyCatzz
      @OnlyCatzz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      wOw, you so cool let's be friends

    • @nadimwood1175
      @nadimwood1175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a 2014 2.0t with 85k and I love this car.

  • @texasflysuperstar
    @texasflysuperstar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great idea for a comparison guys

  • @ScylockeX
    @ScylockeX 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun comparison here! Would love to see you guys bring the DE G35 you had done back in the day. Sadly you had to do quite a bit to even get it to what the BRZ is able to do out of the box.

  • @jackkanovysac4998
    @jackkanovysac4998 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i dig that 1st gen eagle talon in the background.

  • @FrankkMedia
    @FrankkMedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The revised 2nd gen bk2 Genesis Coupe is a whole different car imo. Good comparison still especially with the power output. Would love to see more videos of these affordable cars!! Can you guys review the 8th gen Civic SI?

  • @bshaw458
    @bshaw458 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please review that DSM in the background. I had a 1st gen and 2nd gen Talon and LOVE THEM!

  • @Loudest_Cricket_
    @Loudest_Cricket_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I really would have liked to see a BK2 (facelifted) Gen Coupe vs the FR-S.
    It’s up about 70 hp on the FR-S, but I’d imagine that the FR-S does better in the corners. It would have been interesting to see the difference in heat soak, and overall performance. Besides that, I think if anyone is going for a Gen Coupe 2.0T, they’ll likely go BK2 for the various upgrades over the BK1.

    • @petrolhead8851
      @petrolhead8851 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Derby City Vandal the bk2 genesis if Fucking ugly!

    • @JM-fu6it
      @JM-fu6it 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bk2 rspec! Brembos 19s stiffer susp more hp better interior!!

    • @Nimasis
      @Nimasis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bk2 will have it easily, i think there is already a track test between bk2 and frs on youtube and bk2 takes it

    • @ACarGuy915
      @ACarGuy915 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@petrolhead8851you think the bk2 is ugly? It’s honestly one of the nicest cars I’ve seen

    • @ACarGuy915
      @ACarGuy915 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@petrolhead8851if* lol

  • @psewgobind
    @psewgobind 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brings back good memory. Back in the 80s after dropping my mom to work. Every single morning at 6am, I would get stuck at the lights at V.P & Steels with only me (in a 5sp Z24) and the other car being a Turbo Eagle Talon. Same results, flipped back and forth every morning, we were so evenly matched.

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really liked this episode.

  • @eduardoguzman5417
    @eduardoguzman5417 4 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    Try a second generation Genesis is has mor HP

    • @Robot_Overlord
      @Robot_Overlord 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      And with a tune which is only 700$ for another 45 hp on top of that

    • @RadDadisRad
      @RadDadisRad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Because you need more horsepower to beat a 180hp frs?

    • @Swerzuh
      @Swerzuh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@RadDadisRad the FRS is a lot lighter, so yes.

    • @daduncker20D
      @daduncker20D 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      try u mom

    • @TheBRPredator
      @TheBRPredator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Robot_Overlord a canned tune from alphaspeed is $400 and will push you from that 190 whp at stock configuration to a 240ish wheel range with much better drivability

  • @KoreRacing
    @KoreRacing 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this type of car reviews! Keep these coming!

  • @gigi9467
    @gigi9467 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this already!! I love comparos thats what made motor trend great!

  • @patw9175
    @patw9175 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video!

  • @PANTYEATR1
    @PANTYEATR1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    i like the styling and engine layout of the first gen Genesis coupe. I've never driven one, but for some reason I'm drawn to it.

    • @anon136
      @anon136 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I recently bought one, a 2011 R-spec with the 2.0t, first thing i did was put some bigger tires on it and it is a dream. From daily driving a charger to this is night and day. I do miss the 350ish hp but going through a corner in the Genny is amazing, if you find a good priced one they are great cars.

    • @christucker9566
      @christucker9566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've driven both the bk1 and bk2 coupes. The bk1 is dogshit compared to the bk2. I now own 2 of them.

    • @jeffreycattelino3996
      @jeffreycattelino3996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The bk1 2.0 is a dream to work on. A bunch of space in the engine compartment because a 6 cylinder isn't crammed in there. Turbo is easy to get to. Clutch job was easy . it is a very nice car.

    • @Psythik
      @Psythik 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have the 3.8 and I can confirm that it's everything you've dreamed of and more.

  • @PiroFyre
    @PiroFyre 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Genesis Coupes aren't bad RWD cars to track and autox. Just have to remember it's a Korean car and the aftermarket for just about all Korean cars are a niche right now.

  • @rockervdrive
    @rockervdrive 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The heat soak is real with those first gen 2.0l turbo Genesis's (not sure what the plural is haha). I tracked with a buddy who had one in 98 degree weather at Button Willow. I had a S2000 at the time. His times slowly got worse throughout the day while my times were actually improving. We were in different run groups, but similar timing gear.

  • @NissanR33Ztune
    @NissanR33Ztune 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome idea well done on the car selection for the test....... 86 vrs the G37 would be interesting too

    • @jasonbingle9759
      @jasonbingle9759 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      G37 would blow the doors off the FRS

  • @Overboostgarage
    @Overboostgarage 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just picked up a genesis coupe 2012 base model for 4800 with a clean title they are becoming very cheap in the used market now already have it on coil overs solid rear diff bushings and have done full tune up. Trying to source a lsd diff to swap and brembos then plan on building the motor but mine doesn’t have rev hang like yours does. There is still an ok after market support for the gc.

  • @PanameraTurboSEHybrid
    @PanameraTurboSEHybrid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I miss my 2016 3.8 R Spec with the manual. Limited slip diff, brembo brakes, nice exhaust note, very powerful.

    • @6ixgenesis842
      @6ixgenesis842 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats what i have, follow my Instagram 6ixGenesis

    • @keddybear3478
      @keddybear3478 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats the car i have too, want to trade it in for a 2017 e63s amg Mercedes

  • @SzybkiTom
    @SzybkiTom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting video. I bought a BR-Z in April for lapping, but it really was between that and the Genesis. I realize after watching this video that both were good choices and whichever one I would've chosen, I would've been happy with.

    • @ryandono5721
      @ryandono5721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A newer Genesis would have been miles better.

    • @LilScotty10
      @LilScotty10 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a genny owner I feel either pick has its pros and cons ESPECIALLY if your actually using it on a track. Both cars will teach you racing lines and give a a great time going around the track. I know this comment was 3 years ago lol but how has the brz held up?

  • @eddiedick9886
    @eddiedick9886 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a close race! I think you should reach out to torque amp! I'm sure they would give you a kit to add to the brz and do the same race over! I'm just curious as to how much difference this kit would make. I'm not sure if the Subaru has the self learning ecu as the Toyota version does,but if so no tuning needed.

  • @KSErules
    @KSErules 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 2015 3.8 Genesis coupe with the 8 speed auto that I have semi setup for road course action. Tons of fun and not crazy expensive. If you guys ever come to Florida there is a track here called The FIRM, it's a small more technical course like TMP,come visit and I'll let you take my car out for a spin.

  • @DOMS4.
    @DOMS4. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I once drove my friend's 2.0 Genesis home after he bought it. The rev hang was terrible I couldn't ignore it, I couldn't wait to get back to my car.

  • @Majima_Nowhere
    @Majima_Nowhere 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I daily a manual Genesis BK1 3.8 and I love every bit of it.

    • @driveshift
      @driveshift 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      CMDR Alvin H. Davenport have you ever driven a BRZ/FRS?

    • @FullmetalC5
      @FullmetalC5 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@driveshift I owned both a BK1 Genesis 3.8 and a 350Z and have driven a BRZ.

    • @Majima_Nowhere
      @Majima_Nowhere 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@driveshift No? I'm sure it's just as fun, but you're implying that it means I should enjoy my own car less?
      "I love steak."
      "Have you ever even eaten veal?"

    • @driveshift
      @driveshift 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      CMDR Alvin H. Davenport nope, not at all. If you’ve driven a BRZ, I would like your input on major differences with that and your 3.8.

    • @Majima_Nowhere
      @Majima_Nowhere 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@driveshift Ah, sorry for the snappiness then. I can't really give an opinion on the BRZ.

  • @lcq4blackstar
    @lcq4blackstar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Take the Genesis into the shop and do a mini 2-3 part series on fixing its short comings with the help of some sponsors would be good, always liked them when new but the shifter being vague and rev hang had me never consider one. Possibly a short throw and bushings/good trans fluid could bring it around? Suspension possibly BC coilovers or spring/shock combination with sways and bushings? Maybe there is a flash or piggyback that can take care of the rev hang and an intercooler or meth injection could round out the car then back to TMP to show the improvements for a finale?
    Did dave say the clutch was slipping as well?

  • @macanoon
    @macanoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    dp and pt the real mvp

  • @mindman11boss
    @mindman11boss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys Should do a 2013+ genesis either 2.0t or 3.8 vs something or vs each other if the 2.0t is tuned with some boltons

  • @un_civilized
    @un_civilized 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think we need a revisit with the upgrades done

  • @markt9438
    @markt9438 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that was fun !

  • @swanblake
    @swanblake 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In fairness to the Genesis Coupe, the BK2 shouodmhave been used as it was released when the BRZ came out. The upgraded eferything in the BK2 Gencoupe are substanial. I had a BK2 3.8L GenCoupe R Spec and still miss it except for that gearbox. Very tail happy with its stock skinny rubber.

  • @johnathanthornton7256
    @johnathanthornton7256 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nailed it on the head with aftermarket support. It’s not bad for the bk1 2.0T, but the 3.8 in both generations is... slim.

  • @XX-ce5tv
    @XX-ce5tv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to see a Mini Cooper peferably a first gen. I know it's not a rwd, but it would be nice to see where it hangs

  • @ClaytonYatescarenthusiast
    @ClaytonYatescarenthusiast 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really want you guys to test my track prepared 2016 Camaro SS. Have some videos of it

  • @angeloleiser4690
    @angeloleiser4690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m so happy with my genesis coupe, I got a 3.8 2015 ultimate for only $7500, dude didn’t know what car he had, it’s in pretty much mint condition

  • @thielepr
    @thielepr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any feedback from those pads? 1 being stock and 10 being track pads. Are those like a 6?

  • @rushking19
    @rushking19 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The genesis coupe actually has a lot of aftermarket support and a couple tuners the best ones are alpha speed they do the best tunes and theres so many turbo manifolds for sale for those things and intercoolers and everything

  • @freddyflirt15
    @freddyflirt15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've owned a 2013 Genesis coupe 3.8 Track AT and currently drive a 2017 BRZ Limited MT.
    I can tell you 100% the genesis exhaust note was Amazing with a muffler delete and a resonator. Not too loud, Godzilla vibes at WOT but fit and finish wasn't great. Lots of little rattles and vibrations, traction control was a little tricky not exactly confidence inspiring at the limit. But it will drift. Rods are like rubber bands on the 3.8 so no forced induction for you! But I hear the 2.0T can easilly make 300 WHP. Tuning the genesis isn't super easy or at least it was daunting enough that I didn't do it but if I would have I think Bisimoto would have bern the way to go. Great engine if you put in forged rods and pistons but cost is pretty prohibitive for the average Joe.
    BRZ needs a Tomei Exhaust for that perfect sound. Unequal length headers give a great Subaru rumble and improved mid range eliminating that evil torque dip or Equal length headers give a nice smooth sound and increased flow at higher RPM. Fit and finish is pretty dang good if I do say so myself. Ecutek tuners are the way to go. Openflash is a little cheaper and might seem easier for tuning the 86 but I would only suggest it if you're staying stock or very lightly modifying the car. E85 makes the FA20 very happy as long as the outside temperatures are above 40°f any colder and it's gonna be hard to get her started up. Driving at the limit the twins are super predictable and extremely fun! If you have any drifting or driving skill at all, the 86 or BRZ will make you feel like a pro.
    For the price, quality of vehicle, and aftermarket support I would suggest the BRZ, FR-S, or GT-86

    • @kamikaziblack
      @kamikaziblack 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plenty of people have boosted 3.8s you have sfr and alphaspeed and btr for tuning and unlike the 86 family you will get noticable gains unless you dropping 5-6k for a turbo or supercharger its still gonna get gapped by v6 mini vans

    • @freddyflirt15
      @freddyflirt15 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kamikaziblack straight savage. But also true. I'm right around 200 whp on E85 with a header and muffler delete. Supercharger is next on the list though for sure. Slow as it is, its still the most fun car I've ever driven.

  • @normpaul5322
    @normpaul5322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Genesis has a tune, the factory rev limiter is at 6500, which would explain how it was so torquey

  • @user-sl4cb9zp6g
    @user-sl4cb9zp6g 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    About the power down due to the heat you mentioned, yeah it is typical problem on older Genesis coupe 2.0 Turbos. Mine had same problem so that it slowed down right after 3 laps or so and once it happens, it is done for a day. It does not cool down back to normal pace for entire day. They have too small radiator for a 1-bar turbo sport coupe. The newer 2.0T has bit larger radiator just like 3.8 and kinda solves the problem a bit. Still every track guys with Genesis Coupe here in Korea install aftermarket radiator to actually get rid of the problem.

    • @user-sl4cb9zp6g
      @user-sl4cb9zp6g 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And yeah the rev hung up on the top even the clutch is disengaged is a bit of common in older Hyundai's manual shifter cars. The flywheel is heavy(stock is dual mass) and ISC valve setting is somewhat too aggressive. Although mapping the ecu may be able to ease this issue, there is no perfect solution. Since modern N cars doesn't have this issue as far as I know, it is just the old Hyundai's thing commonly exist from mundane Elantra to 3.8 Genesis coupe

  • @Vittinable
    @Vittinable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bowl of soup shifting, wow that was a good one :)

  • @VS666
    @VS666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i know it wouldn't be fair to compare a 3.8 gen coupe to the BRZ but if you want a super rowdy, fun and easy to work on track car i would suggest a bk1 3.8. throw a set of 275's on konigs, straight pipe it, rip out the interior, throw in a sparco seat and wheel and you've got a super rowdy bad ass little machine. if you want something a little more civil and your budget is higher go for the bk2 3.8 ultimate. very comfortable and modern interior and that V6 is like 350hp and sounds even better than the bk1! speaking from experience, i had a 2011 bk1 3.8 and my gf daily drivers her bk2 3.8

  • @maggartmotorsportandperfor4688
    @maggartmotorsportandperfor4688 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    G37S vs BK2 Genesis 3.8 r-spec: battle of the luxury V6 coupes that also happen to drive really fun.
    You may need to work on shortening the name.
    @Speed Academy If you want to borrow mostly stock Bk2 genesis lmk

  • @_SKDK_
    @_SKDK_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I think it depends on what you intend to do with the car.
    The Genesis' saving grace is the bigger engine especially in the 2nd gen. But it's a fact that it's a heavier, bulkier car. If you just want a sporty daily, but plan to do basic mods I'd recommend the Genesis. It's easier to get in and out of and has a more luxury focused interior when you get the options. Most Genesis owners usually just do basic mods and stop. I've seen about 2 with widebodies in person, and few with serious engine mods.
    The toyobaru frs on the other hand is more for someone who plans to build. It's much lighter and far more nimble making it a far better platform to build upon. You can dispute that if you want but it has far more aftermarket support for a reason. There's also a good bit of them used by racing teams for various styles.
    I'm a built > bought kind of person who likes to really make a car their own so I'd opt for the brz anyday if I could only have one. If I had them both, the Genesis would be my daily and the brz would be my weekend warrior with far more money dumped into it.

    • @jstos3675
      @jstos3675 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm currently deciding between the genesis, toyobaru, mazda miata, and the nissan 370z. I'm looking for a daily driver to work and that's reliable. I don't plan on racing and don't plan on moding it.
      Which one should I go for?

    • @_SKDK_
      @_SKDK_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jstos3675 that's gonna depend on how spirited your driving is and how much you do. Like if you just drive when you have to (work, groceries, errands) or if you do recreational driving too (back roads, mountain passes, cruises)
      I'm in TN so we've got the smokies and tail of dragon. I'm more toward cornering for that stuff. But I ACTIVELY go drive that windy roads. If you're not doing any recreational driving, even outside of the track, you might as well go for comfort and take the genesis or 370z. Between those two, I'd opt for the 370z. Be warned on v6's and oil issues
      The miata and brz are both good for carving. Autocross, track, backroads, mountain passes, I'd go for those two. Between those two, I'm taking the brz. Be warned on suby engine clearance

    • @jstos3675
      @jstos3675 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_SKDK_ Thank you!

    • @dudegust6983
      @dudegust6983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jstos3675I just bought a 2010 Genesis 3.8 and buddy has a 370z, if you want a comfortable car with performance I’d definitely go with the Geni, it’s a very fun car to drive and it has a much smoother ride than the 370z, in my opinion I really like the look of it over the 370z it has a more higher class look compared to the car every 16-18yo buys

    • @jstos3675
      @jstos3675 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dudegust6983 ah ok. Yea I don't like the look of the 370z. It looks like a giant mousepad or doorstopper to me, lol. Is the Genesis a long car? I currently have a Mazda6 and I don't like that its too long. I feel like I'm driving a sailboat. I checked the dimensions and the Genesis is only about 11 inches shorter than the Mazda6. Congrats on getting a Genesis!

  • @mattwiser7982
    @mattwiser7982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You guys should drive my 2013 3.8 R-Spec!!

    • @keddybear3478
      @keddybear3478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the 2016 3.8 rspec, good car

  • @nacostacos
    @nacostacos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The oil temps on the FA20 motor SKYROCKETS anytime you do pulls so I'd imagine by race 3 that thing was pulling some timing too. What did the AEM say? Anything above 212?

  • @leslie7872
    @leslie7872 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i noticed with your driving that when entering second last (or just last) turn you go straight for the inside while most if it all drivers use the whole track and shoot left before going right into the corner, you just go right into it, which to looks faster but idk. any track geeks chime in on this little analysis?

  • @177SCmaro
    @177SCmaro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Add an engine option for 280-300hp and 8000rpm. There, fixed the BRZ/86/FRS.

  • @JordanDecarie25
    @JordanDecarie25 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was that a Plymouth laser at the start?

  • @garrettknox5266
    @garrettknox5266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And I'd really like to rotate tires...rears suffer from evaporation. Also have never used my camber bolts for front end that came with it.

  • @thawarf4
    @thawarf4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are we gonna see a video on that dsm @ 1:17 ???

  • @randynoble3726
    @randynoble3726 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do your lap times compare to the owners best times on TMP?

  • @jdawg93
    @jdawg93 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is a 2013 Genesis Track Coupe a good car? Got my eye on one but don't know much about them

  • @rootsmanuva82
    @rootsmanuva82 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    255 width front tires on the BRZ when it came with 215's stock. That's a lot of tire 😅. I had Continental ExtremeContact Sports on my MINI and I LOVED them. I currently have General G-Max RS summer tires on my GTI. General is owned by Continental and some RS's are made in Germany (at least the 225/45/17's are). They had great reviews from customers on Tire Rack so I went for it, around $400 for a set of 4. Long story short I think they're just okay. Should've paid the around $600 for the Continentals. RS's grip but steering response is a little dull and feel numb when temperatures drop below 65F which is just dumb, even for a summer tire. Sidewalls are too soft like the old Continental DW's as well. That said, huge upgrade over all-seasons.

  • @sliknik1025
    @sliknik1025 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Genesis Coupe is more of a GT car, designed to compete against mainly Infiniti G35/G37, V6 Mustang and Camaro. BRZ/FR-S/86 were designed as sports cars from the ground up. However, it’s still nice to see a comparison video like this. I would agree with a lot of people commenting here though, would’ve been a much better comparison if the Genesis Coupe was an R-Spec or Track version, with factory upgraded brakes, suspension and LSD (and a lot less miles lol). A facelifted BK2 Genesis with 270hp 2.0T would also be nice to compare against FR-S/BRZ since it’s still cheaper or about the same price, and since the car is heavier, the extra power would make it a better comparison. One is better handling sports car, other is more comfortable and faster (V6 or ‘13+ 2.0T) grand tourer.

  • @jpwilliams5264
    @jpwilliams5264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    New project car. Get a 2.0 gennie amd hit up 10fintec for some mods!

  • @jnunez9771
    @jnunez9771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    370z sport 6spd vs genesis coupe 3.8 would love to see that one since I own a zed

    • @jnunez9771
      @jnunez9771 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noise Control true

    • @jponz85
      @jponz85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Noise Control an HR 350z has better lap times on the nurburgring than your s2k. 350Hr/370z>s2k all day any day

    • @jponz85
      @jponz85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Noise Control pffffff.... stock per stock, mod per mod, K swapped or not, VQ has it all day no questions

    • @LackyUno
      @LackyUno 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jponz85 With Nürburgring you mean Nordschleife? There, power and stability are more important than on other tracks. I could imagine that on a track like in the video the s2000 is faster also with stock power, but nobody knows till it happens.

    • @theofficialwizard2753
      @theofficialwizard2753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Noise Control lmao If I had a dollar for every civic and S2k I’ve gapped in my 3.8 😂

  • @joebrown9621
    @joebrown9621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For a old car which seems it needs some shocks that Genesis hauled ass vs the newer BRZ.. Genesis seems to have more potential plus i would have liked to see the drivers switch cars

  • @veefource
    @veefource 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who in their right mind would buy a BRZ based on roll on tests which is not what this car is about at all? You picked a non-standard example of a terrible version of the Genesis to compare it against and then barely talked about how the drive between the two compares. I rarely write bad reviews but you guys really earned it.

  • @harryazzole7814
    @harryazzole7814 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This comparison is good but a better and arguably more fair comparison to the FRS would have been a BK2 2.0t since the first year of the FRS was 2012 and a year later they had switched to direct injection on the Genesis. The BK2 is in every way superior to the first gen, especially the Track package. My friend owns a 2010 with a BK2 engine running a GT3076 @ 28 psi and it's a beastly little 4 cyl street car.

  • @garrettknox5266
    @garrettknox5266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 2015 3.8 Rspec Gen Coupe and the understeer is hideous. If I rotate the rear the front drops under (best I can describe). If I lost the stock staggered setup would that improve?

  • @JimCraig_riced
    @JimCraig_riced 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Would be interesting to see how diff the 3.8 vs genesis coupe is to the 2.0t

    • @1ohno11
      @1ohno11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Genesis 3.8 is completely different UNDER THE HOOD from the 2.0 Turbo. I have owned both. I do not miss the 2.0 because turbo lags. 3.8 Naturally inspirated Genuine Direct Injection wins without a doubt.

    • @ShiniiXO
      @ShiniiXO 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1ohno11 Agreed. Love my 3.8

    • @Trivium97
      @Trivium97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShiniiXO same here man it's awesome. Just got some new rims and put a spoiler on it

  • @bradrizzo3950
    @bradrizzo3950 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For $12,000 - 14,000 you can get a 3.8 v6 gen coupe. The 2013 turbo making 275ish up for the same. Brz is sexy I will say.. but it seems you showed the 2010 turbo to get the numbers closer, not for actually deciding what you might want.
    Maybe just me (2013 3.8 owner)

  • @victorrippe5845
    @victorrippe5845 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those genesis coupe are getting extremely popular now every young guy wants one now.

  • @chapmanmerchant
    @chapmanmerchant 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before you start I will take the BRZ if you’re talking about the turbo version of the high-end day. LOL love it spell like that

  • @ericsotosoto379
    @ericsotosoto379 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    NICE COMPARO.......HOW ABOUT 07-08 TIBURON V6 VS 2013 VELOSTER TURBO? HAS NOT BEEN DONE YET!

  • @iamcyberpunk68
    @iamcyberpunk68 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2013 Genesis 3.8 track is fuckin sick as hell. I bought one ,few mods weight reduction and holy hang on 6 speed of course.Turbo,,tune,, enhaust, megan trans mount, engine leash, Niche 11a half rim out back 245\35 20,,, 285\30\0.,race coil overs, cat delete,,alum drive shaft, 94 oct fuel. thinking NOS soon, 516 hp 479 tor.373 gears posi with bushing kits and brace

  • @kwedog2373
    @kwedog2373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now it would be interesting how different these twp cars would become with just a tune.🙂

    • @esperfire3779
      @esperfire3779 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. A simple tune can remove the horrid torque dip on a BRZ, and I'd imagine it can get rid of that obnoxious rev hang on the Genesis as well, allowing both engines to really go all out, even without any additional performance mods.

    • @jeffreycattelino3996
      @jeffreycattelino3996 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Genesis coupe picks up about 50whp and 70lbs tq peak but has a way better powerband under the curve on a stock tuned example. Open up the exhaust about 100lbs tq extra.

  • @HDConcussionz
    @HDConcussionz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Genesis Coupe REV hang is awful!!
    Luckily there are a few quick fixes to get rid of it. Best way is a tune and unplugging an extra sensor on the clutch that it goes off (Not the clutch safety switch but another it has).

    • @ariellezen4683
      @ariellezen4683 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      VERY interested in this clutch sensor. What is it?

    • @HDConcussionz
      @HDConcussionz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ariellezen4683 I'm really not sure, but if you look down by the pedal there's 2 sensors. It's the top most one. Doesn't throw a check engine light but it does pop up on my code reader. I forgot what it shows as. No negative effects at all.

    • @Scott-lo5ep
      @Scott-lo5ep 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is very good to know. Thank you. Does this apply to both the BK1 and the BK2? Would it be possible to just disconnect this component without getting the tune?

    • @nigelmccure6640
      @nigelmccure6640 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually heard rumors that you can definitely knock it out that REV HANG

    • @HDConcussionz
      @HDConcussionz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Scott-lo5ep I have a bk2, but I believe it's also bk1. My car cane with a tune but the rev hang was still there (don't think the previous owner opted for that). Unplugging the sensor helped.

  • @pFbSpecV
    @pFbSpecV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I gotta say I'd take the brz over the genesis!

    • @filipprucnal
      @filipprucnal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same here. Performance aside, the BRZ looks miles better!

    • @1ohno11
      @1ohno11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      when you own both your feelings and wants will change. Had a brz.. ran it to 203 000 km from brand new.. and.. i dont miss it as much as i thought.

    • @zackacree7124
      @zackacree7124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      jjus jjoe Absolutely

    • @Sean-jd9gm
      @Sean-jd9gm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Genesis Looks better.

    • @zackacree7124
      @zackacree7124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      jjus jjoe Genesis are meh to me, never been a fan of them. I guess that’s just my opinion though

  • @2511jeremy
    @2511jeremy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    is this track this empty more of the time? ive got a 2013 frs with a few mods

  • @viptrayy9656
    @viptrayy9656 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do the G35 coupe versus the BRZ

  • @curtdragon
    @curtdragon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish you guys do cars with stock wheels or at least stock size. Adding 18s on the stock motor doesn't help

    • @ranran2806
      @ranran2806 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Curtis Scafe on a track the tire and wheel size is extremely important even on stock motor. It helps with grip. The stock tires on a FRS/BRZ are 17x7.5 which is extremely narrow and not optimized for track.

  • @dvdfll
    @dvdfll 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You didn't mention the Genny has wheel spacers

  • @robochoa7387
    @robochoa7387 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    350z, Genesis 3.8L Coupe, Older wrx/sti, g37, over a gt86/brz/frs any day.

    • @izayoiaifuyu
      @izayoiaifuyu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The G37 is garbage, you're much better off with a pre-facelift VHR motor one, like a 2005-2006 one since the facelift made it essentially the lifeless G37.

  • @koston777
    @koston777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dang, I didnt know how slow was earlier 2.0T Gen Coupes were.

    • @jeffreycattelino3996
      @jeffreycattelino3996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That car is old as fuck with a shit ton of miles on it its a piece.

  • @charlesschwab7651
    @charlesschwab7651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should run a Mazda Rx8 R3 next. They’re running like 11k Canadian right now. They’re really fun, light weight, rwd, and cheap. Eh eh. Rotary baby.

    • @trymonster6670
      @trymonster6670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah but they don't wanna blow up the engine while driving someone else's car..

    • @rx8matt
      @rx8matt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing special, really, about the r3. Get yourself a base model and rotor away! th-cam.com/play/PLcwIM9WClgbH_uNy88QLfiQx6e5Femzlg.html

  • @Glocktism
    @Glocktism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bought the 3.8 because I wanted more speed but I enjoy the looks of the genesis coupe. Especially the color I bought which is rare as hell. The genesis is just cool looking and reasonably price for a 300+ hp car

    • @jesseblake3508
      @jesseblake3508 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which color did you get? But nice! I might be getting a 3.8 real soon too!

    • @Glocktism
      @Glocktism 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jesseblake3508 Interlagos yellow. Only offered on bk1 3.8s here in the states. Beautiful color. If you look on my Instagram @cocaine_tacoma you can see some hood shots I got of it

    • @jesseblake3508
      @jesseblake3508 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Glocktism oh yellow nice!! It looks amazing on the Genesis! I've actually seen one like that here in Canada, I'm guessing maybe it was imported from the states?

    • @Glocktism
      @Glocktism 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jesseblake3508 might’ve been offered in Canada too. Chances are cause typically what we get Canada gets in the car world. But it was an awesome car back when I owned it

    • @jesseblake3508
      @jesseblake3508 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Glocktism ahh very true good point prob was offered here too. But I can def see why too it's an amazing looking car! Especially in that yellow too

  • @cristophcarsu8185
    @cristophcarsu8185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hyundai the real underdog though

  • @arrivendrive6831
    @arrivendrive6831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Out of those two I would pick the brz. No turbos to worry about. Brz will probably the cheaper car to track. Ofcourse I would like to see the rx8 against the brz. My money is on the great handling rx8. Damn what a chasis, cheap a d a few more ponies. Oh and it's cool as hell.

  • @pontiacGXPfan
    @pontiacGXPfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The BReeZe is fine on a track but everywhere else, I want the GC

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph8958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would definitely go with the GT86/BRZ
    But I would have gotten the Genesis if it had a V6

    • @KingCanaanmma
      @KingCanaanmma 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They do have a v6.....its the 3.8 in track, or Rspec

  • @maximeallard8170
    @maximeallard8170 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    sorry i'm french .. but what is the best car ? gt86 ? or genesis ? peace & ride

  • @ChuckTateD117
    @ChuckTateD117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should’ve used a 2011 2.0 RSpec! Completely different car from the base 10-12 2.0
    The tighter suspension, brembos, and limited slip differential in the RSpec make the 2.0 a completely different animal. Any GenCoupe that is a RSpec is infinitely better than the base Gen
    Base gens are literally a blank slate that have to be modded

  • @Stickmister360
    @Stickmister360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    not gonna lie beginning of the video all i seen was a 1g dsm in the right corner...have u guys drove a dsm on this track?

    • @klktudicr
      @klktudicr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First thing I noticed..

    • @paultymikiw9681
      @paultymikiw9681 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@klktudicr literally the only thing i noticed XD