How to Achieve Immortality | Miguel De Unamuno’s The Tragic Sense of Life

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  • @relhub13
    @relhub13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This sounds like a great setup for Kierkegaard. Reason will only take us to the edge of truth. We have to take a leap of faith and rely on subjective (experiential) truth when wanting answers for questions that deal with the infinite (i.e. immortality). Reason only works when dealing with the finite. Loved the video!

    • @eastlands5756
      @eastlands5756 ปีที่แล้ว

      He agrees with Kierkegaard that the consequence of existence of pure thought is suicide. In summary he says that in this life we hold onto dearly things that we don't have control yet we can control so much in our lives. Hence tragedy sense of life. We can agree on everything that we can also disagree on, and reason can be bent to suit us which also someone else can bend the same reason to suit them. this book is marvelous on how he approaches immortality. Can we really be immortal? reason says No, But our soul (will) says Yes!

  • @pengling82
    @pengling82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was not that familiar with Spanish existentialism, but this video helped me a lot. It is concise and also super engaging. thanks!

    • @PhilosophyToons
      @PhilosophyToons  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching, love your profile pic

  • @johntessitore9305
    @johntessitore9305 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love philosophy,and this book and author sounds great thanks 😊!

  • @orangexylem
    @orangexylem ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I came here after reading his play "La Venda" out of an old high school Spanish textbook from the '90s.

  • @oscargarciapenas5488
    @oscargarciapenas5488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hope you get some terrific vacation time on Spain, Unamuno's thoughts are quite known and respected around here!

  • @slow9199
    @slow9199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    just wanted to say, that i love your videos and the effort you put in them. very cool topics too.
    thank you :)

  • @tangerinesarebetterthanora-v8k
    @tangerinesarebetterthanora-v8k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would argue that Miguel De Unamono wanting immorality is in itself a rejection of a life affirming attitude since death is a part of life. Say yes even to death.

  • @realjamiegardiner
    @realjamiegardiner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cool vid
    It's definitely easier to experience life more fully when your not being completely rational and skeptical

    • @PhilosophyToons
      @PhilosophyToons  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very true, a 100% rational life is boring, let alone probably impossible

    • @lorenzocapitani8666
      @lorenzocapitani8666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I disagree - a rationalist can enjoy life a lot, even if skeptical - the secret is to keep an open mind to other possibilities and be wise and try things out - there is always a new reason (argument) that you didn't know that can pop up!

    • @realjamiegardiner
      @realjamiegardiner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lorenzocapitani8666 your right bro keeping an open mind can be hard to do but definitely is the most important thing

  • @anotherhuman-r9n
    @anotherhuman-r9n 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LOVED THE VIDEO❤

  • @Hakajin
    @Hakajin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I appreciate that Unamuno understands how belief in immortality leads to a constructive mindset; people have gotten frustrated with me for not being able to make absurdism work for me. I'm sure it works for other people, but I just do not work that way; the idea that everything comes to nothing leads me to despair at worst, hedonism at best. Because in my mind, it eliminates long-term consequences.
    I disagree with the idea that such belief is irrational, though; I think that a lot of what we believe is rational and objective is far more ideological than most people realize. The kind of physicalism that sees sentience as a product of inherently non-sentient material reality, for example: that is logical nonsense, yet it's accepted by many as THE truth because of the focus on empiricism descended from Enlightenment values. It has a lot to do with what people understand as possible, how much they even look into mystic and "supernatural" claims... My point is not that I know, either; on the contrary, the point is that no one knows because we're talking about subjective experience (which, of course, is inherently unobservable by fact of being observation itself).

    • @PhilosophyToons
      @PhilosophyToons  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, embracing the "not knowing" or just being humble is super rewarding

    • @lorenzocapitani8666
      @lorenzocapitani8666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The beautiful thing about Absurdism is that it can be right:
      A rationalist in this world most probably will start the trip saying: God does not exist.
      . . . . but then God pops up and says he exists!
      Reason does not know everything, and sometimes instinct, which teaches a lot of things without knowledge (in animals for sure), can be right.
      Reason does not know everything - thats why it is called reason and considers the possibility of another reason (for or against an argument) to pop up at any moment. Reasons conclusions are based on ponderation of KNOWN arguments - but there is always an argument you didn't know that can pop up and ruin your conclusions. Moral: Dump reason and choose logic and get the right knowledge.

    • @eastlands5756
      @eastlands5756 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's true and he encourages both worlds to exist because one cannot exist without the other. And if we are true to ourselves, the sense of our lives is utterly nothing but tragedy

  • @dutArkham
    @dutArkham 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you fall in love with your ideal of the person you love (not my idea). truth is more important than feelings, if the truth leaves you feeling hopeless then you have to realize your life has meaning and that meaning is something you have to find.
    “He who has a why to live for can bear almost any how.”
    ― Friedrich Nietzsche

  • @watchfuleagleson
    @watchfuleagleson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. And may God deny you peace (which he will when you're as old as me), but give you glory (vs. fame)!

  • @hanskung3278
    @hanskung3278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Diet Immortality"....I love it. Check out Solomon Sheldon.

  • @hanskung3278
    @hanskung3278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes....I want immortality.

  • @tangerinesarebetterthanora-v8k
    @tangerinesarebetterthanora-v8k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:20 Nietzsche writes about this very idea in Beyond Good and Evil.

  • @hanskung3278
    @hanskung3278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Immortality, as opposed to nothing- ness, seems more reasonable to me,

  • @user-hg1ey5ec8m
    @user-hg1ey5ec8m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ayo Mr. White

    • @PhilosophyToons
      @PhilosophyToons  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jesse! We need to get immortality!

  • @Crackkka
    @Crackkka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    waltuh

    • @jazzling
      @jazzling 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      truly.

  • @lorenzocapitani8666
    @lorenzocapitani8666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    O Great 'Keith' ! May you rejeuvenate me and give me back my sexually active years, may you bestow, upon me and my senses, pleasures continued and uncomensorate! May you not fraud me ! May you grant me happinesses and joys Galore! May you secure my eternal youth and my eternal life in body and flesh! Honesty!

    • @lorenzocapitani8666
      @lorenzocapitani8666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      'Keith' replied and through a divine voice gave me the following passage of the bible (old testament) Jonah 2
      But the LORD sent a large fish, that swallowed Jonah; and he remained in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
      (...) can't quote all the passage too long.
      When God saw by their actions how they turned from their evil way, he repented of the evil that he had threatened to do to them; he did not carry it out.
      -
      Praise Bontate and Cosmos, that give hope and faith!