Boat Transom Protection | Transom Saver Rod vs Trim Hydraulic Wedge

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  • @krazyj1957
    @krazyj1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've been using a Transom Saver on all my boats including my inboard/outboards and never had an issue. great video.

  • @andrewpulliamfishing
    @andrewpulliamfishing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i just bought a boat and the seller used a wedge...I questioned it for the same reasons you just explained...going to get a transom saver...thanks man!!

  • @AeroSS87
    @AeroSS87 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My boat needed a new transom at 10 years. Had a saver on it the last 29 years and the transom is still in perfect shape. I'd call it a transom saver.

  • @whiskeytangofoxtrot5939
    @whiskeytangofoxtrot5939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you 🙏 so many people are buying hydraulic wedges thinking it’s a more convenient smaller transom saver not realizing it’s not helping and transom is still under a lot of stress with out the transom bar

  • @chrisbruce7594
    @chrisbruce7594 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought my 1992 ASTRO new in 92 I've always used a transom saver since day one. My transom is rock solid today just as it was new. Transom savers work.

  • @brandonsmith606
    @brandonsmith606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you this is accurate ask a guy who replaces transom for a living he will tell you to use a transom saver connected to your trailer

  • @edholloway2287
    @edholloway2287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This has been an ongoing argument ever since the first Hyd/Transom savers came out several years ago. Several argue that the forces on the transom are worse on the water than when trailering. I tend to disagree and here's why: When trailering the motor is "Tilted" up past the "Trim" raising the lower unit way up and out. When running in the water the lower unit when "Trimmed" out is nowhere near as far out as it is when "Tilted", so the force is directed in more of a downward direction instead of a twisting outward force (Out on the upper and in on the lower) exerted on the upper end of the motor clamp. The water also acts as a cushion to dampen that force. Springs and possibly shocks (on some trailers) work to dampen the downward force but can only do so to the extent of their travel which is much shorter/stiffer than that of what water can do. When trailering, the boat and trailer become one unit when properly strapped down. An actual transom saver braces the lower unit and adds stability to the lower unit preventing that twisting outward force which a Hyd saver does not and cannot do. A hyd saver does not and cannot prevent the outward force exerted on the upper mount bolts of the motor clamp because it simply does not brace against the added weight exerted when you hit a bump when trailering. All that being said, boat manufacturers have gotten away from wood transoms over the years and near all have incorporated composite structures which, "They Say" is strong enough to withstand on water and trailering forces any motor exerts onto the transom. This may be so, but it still does not negate the fact that an unsupported lower unit when "Tilted" in the trailering position exerts a twisting outward force on the upper section of the motor clamp which is different when the motor is basically straight up and down.

    • @g4outdoors
      @g4outdoors  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the lengthy comment! Hopefully people will read it.

    • @WickedWood
      @WickedWood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Logic at work. Simple physics
      Stand up straight with a 20 lb dumbell in your hand and your arm with the weight perpendicular to the floor, jump up and down a few times. No biggie, easy for your shoulder to absorb.
      Now do that same scenario with you holding the weight 45 degrees out. So now how stable can you hold that weight while jumping? Same amount of weight. Different applied forces. Physics.

    • @125saito
      @125saito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WickedWood Great, great analogy. Thanks.

    • @TW14137
      @TW14137 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@WickedWoodForce on a transom is not the same as force on your shoulder...pivot point is in a different place. In the weight scenario, none of the weight ever makes it over center, until the weight is over your head. With the motor, tilting it up actually makes the force more "straight down" on the transom, because of where the pivot point is. I'll bet you can't hold up that Mercury with one arm, but I bet you could balance it, if centered over the transom quit easily. The upper half of that Merc weights much more than the lower half, and as it's tilted, more weight is being transferred straight down, vs being leveraged back and down. You are right on one thing though...simple physics. However, I am not saying that you should trailer with the motor trimmed way up, only that it is not the same as holding out a weight at arms length.

    • @deltapromasterlauj4848
      @deltapromasterlauj4848 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      of course you need a transom saver, you got a tracker thats as thin as hair🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

  • @RedfishCarolina
    @RedfishCarolina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This man is my spirit animal. Excellent video! Thank you for clarifying this. I bought an old bassboat and I want to take care of the old girl, I deal with some roughass roads around here.

  • @olcaptain4491
    @olcaptain4491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Ken Smith’s channel just highlighted this subject with a boat repair guy and he recommends this type of transom saver versus the the wedge type. I have been running this bar type for years and will continue to do so , not sold on the wedge type.

    • @g4outdoors
      @g4outdoors  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the comment and watching Ol'Cap! I think more people need to see this video.

  • @medlensoutdoors
    @medlensoutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. Looking for this info and came across your video, right to the point and saved me from wasting money. I know what i need to buy now. Thank you

  • @randylee6823
    @randylee6823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a new boat owner my first ever boat. at first I towed without anything I noticed how much it moved up n down on the rds an highway. so I searched and bought an Atwood transom saver. it does a great job love it.

  • @arivalcur3049
    @arivalcur3049 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is such a simple video that can help a lot. Thank you

  • @texoma_outdoors
    @texoma_outdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Talked with a marine fiberglass tech and he told he does 6-8 transom rebuilds a year on boats using the hydraulic savers only and never on boats with the transom saver from trailering stress. I went back to using a transom saver

  • @lesliestansbury
    @lesliestansbury ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this! I was trying to explain this to a family member and they were adamant that I didn’t need a transom saver when I was convinced I did. This gave great visual proof.

  • @michaelcagle5326
    @michaelcagle5326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I followed behind a guy pulling his boat down the highway with the outboard tilted up and no actual transom saver connected to the trailer. Everytime he hit a good sized bump and his trailer bounced up and down, the motion was highly exaggerated on the outboard itself. The motor yanked up and down so hard I now understand how transoms are cracked and even ripped loose. A typical outboard weighs 500+ pounds and is almost 6 foot tall from the skeg to the cowling. When you put an actual connection from your lower unit down to the trailer itself, it takes the twisting motion out of the equation when big bumps are encountered. A true transom saver will stabilize the whole boat, motor, and trailer into one package and allow all the weight to use the springs under the trailer to absorb the load. It's basic geometry. If you don't have something connecting the lower unit to the trailer itself, you aren't doing jack for the transom...the weight is still yanking up and down on the transom and that definitely is not saving it. I still can't believe there are guys who seriously don't get it.
    If you think you don't need a real transom saver (an actual connection from the lower unit to the trailer) then have someone pull your boat down a rough road and follow it...watch the outboard yank up and down and know that all that stress is directly twisting on your transom.

    • @g4outdoors
      @g4outdoors  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People have to see it to understand. I know the picture is clickbait, but I really want people to see the difference in a transom saver and those rubber do nothings. I appreciate the input Michael!

  • @HCR732
    @HCR732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wasn’t looking for this video when I found it got one ordered 👍 thanks for the info.

  • @Florida_Man_Robb
    @Florida_Man_Robb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It shocks me how few people use a transom saver. My tilt recently started slowly dropping while parked for extended periods. After fixing the issue, it was stressful towing thinking that my motor might drop and drag. This prevents that.

  • @serafindearmas1422
    @serafindearmas1422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You are 100% right ,I use that tramson saver and motormate together for a long trips.

    • @jimpat3468
      @jimpat3468 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What brand is the transom saver in the video and where to purchase to use on my Merc 175 xs 4 stroke.

    • @tcat3315
      @tcat3315 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimpat3468 Walmart $20. You’re not building pianos you just need something to help take that bounce out of the motor.

  • @sstatic6093
    @sstatic6093 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah that’s changed as well so the newest thing now is motormate because the one that your using is putting weight on the lower unit. Wherein the motor mate is holding the main motor if that makes sense

  • @samthompson1270
    @samthompson1270 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    First of all, GREAT side by side of the difference between using a transom saver and not using one. That in itself should get the point across. While the wedge is easier to install and remove, it does NOT have the support to match the transom saver. As Steven Palmer mentioned the forces burning down the lake being more than going down the highway, I would suggest thinking about the following: If you take a big wave on the lake, yes, there is extra force being put on the transom. BUT, the water itself will absorb a lot of that pressure. When you hit a chuck hole or bump on the highway, there is nothing to absorb the force like what the water will do. Yes, shocks, springs and tires will take some of it, but the transom will take the most of it. IMO. I'll stick with the transom saver over the wedge.

    • @g4outdoors
      @g4outdoors  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just a couple of days ago, I read the same thing on a Mercury newsletter. Steve is my dad. I really made this video to push his buttons 🤣. We don’t see eye to eye on this matter.

    • @samthompson1270
      @samthompson1270 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@g4outdoors LOL. I knew he had to be related. I figured he was trying to push YOUR buttons with his post.

    • @g4outdoors
      @g4outdoors  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sam Thompson It’s back and forth. Heckling each other is a way of living for our family 🤣.

    • @ericsfishingadventures4433
      @ericsfishingadventures4433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll agree with all of you. Physics are physics lol

  • @robertmeekins2917
    @robertmeekins2917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the video, i do not have the rollers on the back of my trailer, My trailer is build straight across. My question will the transit saver work for me . Mercury60 horsepower Motor

  • @dalehissem4865
    @dalehissem4865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I disagree with the transom saver putting less stress on the transom. When the motor is trimmed up and supported by a mechanical support, (which my Evinrude has) there is close to a 50/50 balance directly over the transom and the force from trailering would be directly up and down. In the video when he is using the wedge, he rocks the motor from the lower unit up and down creating a rocking motion. When he is using the transom saver he is only pushing down, if he lifted up and down he would still get flex on the transom. Just my thought.

    • @freedomisntfree5573
      @freedomisntfree5573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And all those forces bouncing down the road are still transferring to your TRANSOM!
      He's right. Deal with it.

    • @dalehissem4865
      @dalehissem4865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@freedomisntfree5573 You answered your own comment when you said the force is bouncing the trailer. Stand in the back of your boat and bounce it up and down like it would if it were going over a bump. The force doesn't go forward or backward making the motor rock as he is doing in the video.

    • @jeffzhang394
      @jeffzhang394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@freedomisntfree5573 but that force is on the lower unit how to save the lower?

  • @erichindemith9373
    @erichindemith9373 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video!!!!! I see people saying no need for a transom saver. All it takes is one pothole!!!!!!

  • @tommymejia8244
    @tommymejia8244 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. Awesome visuals. Thanks so much for explaining and showing your points of view. I'm sold. Thanks for the time you spent into this.

  • @obversiveKen
    @obversiveKen 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great vid! I used it as reference to recommendations (yes plural) in a boat group I am in pushing a wedge as protection.

  • @glenndaugherity6187
    @glenndaugherity6187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video but you should’ve mentioned one important thing and that’s buying a pair of wedges as you might say that go over your steering rods on both sides of the motor. This is very important if you have SeaStar steering or equivalent as these wedges keep your motor from turning while trailering down the road. If your motor turns after time it will crack your square tubing below the yoke that goes on the lower unit.

  • @JimGrady67
    @JimGrady67 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great well explained video! The only thing I would add is to also use the motor steering stops. I had my motor turn sideways in the transom saver.

    • @jaysonsetzer2287
      @jaysonsetzer2287 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You probably just need to trim your engine Harder down into the transom saver. If you do that it shouldn't turn

  • @charlesjones257
    @charlesjones257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    great vid and explanation. too hard to explain fatigue and full cycle reversals. loading the transom saver with down pressure, prevents full cycle reversal and increasing rigidity. keep up the good work

  • @ve3lty
    @ve3lty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this video!! You saved me from making a mistake. Thanks again !

  • @Randy_Savage_ohyeah
    @Randy_Savage_ohyeah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just the info I was looking for, appreciate the video.

  • @lewiswhite8251
    @lewiswhite8251 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have owned two bass boats with outboard engines. Hauled both tens of thousands of miles using the old fashioned transom savers without and visible cracking or damage to either boat.

  • @bentramell729
    @bentramell729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally a video that shows the roller guide install. I wondered if you just wedge it in there or if there was a bracket you had to attach to lock it to the roller guide but I guess its a matter of lowering the engine tight against it and just hope your motor don't bounce up and let it fall out

    • @blueangel4545
      @blueangel4545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Some are made with a block style attachment that screws to the trailer frame directly and the arm section to the motor locks into that bracket with a pin. The roller style has a u shaped part that goes over the roller and has a cable and pin to lock it in. Either way that arm to the motor can not move once you trim the motor down into the jaws with enough pressure so the motor can not be moved left or right by hand. The motor would have to come of the transom for that brace to fall out.

    • @StarCityFAME
      @StarCityFAME ปีที่แล้ว

      I use 2 black bungees, one at each end, for my outboard which has no electric trim. This keeps the motor from bouncing itself free of the transom saver as I drive around town to the lake... so far, anyway. I am always paranoid about that!!

  • @crappieworldlivescanner1114
    @crappieworldlivescanner1114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The trailer transom saver works the other things are gimmicks.People need to put that on the build sheet so they have it when they first tow the boat.

    • @g4outdoors
      @g4outdoors  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It should just be given with every purchase.

    • @archiebob11
      @archiebob11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m getting my first boat ever next spring in the U.K. and have a near 300 mile drive back home with it, I know a short drive to the shops in the U.S. 😁 I will be taking that advice and fitting a transom saver. Isn’t TH-cam a wonderful place, thanks. 😊👍

  • @burs_bobby_iaga
    @burs_bobby_iaga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The side by side video was a very nice touch.

  • @KennyFishbone
    @KennyFishbone 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great explanation and demonstration

  • @dangullick3268
    @dangullick3268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just trailer with the motor down. Lots of clearance on my boat between prop and the road.....and no issues....

  • @timngraceosullivan954
    @timngraceosullivan954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with you 100%. I get the same argument with using the MotorMate. The MotorMate does not save your transom. It's like you say physics.

  • @norcaloutdoor5462
    @norcaloutdoor5462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Agree, All boat should have Transom Saver as a standard when buying the boat

    • @g4outdoors
      @g4outdoors  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes they should!

    • @norcaloutdoor5462
      @norcaloutdoor5462 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@g4outdoors I saw some boat without transom saver and I ask them and they said no need to because it built very strong transom.

    • @g4outdoors
      @g4outdoors  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@norcaloutdoor5462 I think my video proves otherwise lol.

  • @callisto32
    @callisto32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A good educational video. Thanks!

  • @RH-md2zo
    @RH-md2zo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m not sure if you are right but I do agree with,I have a transom saver on bass boat for 12 years now and no problems yet so it has to at least help.

    • @JustinLee15
      @JustinLee15 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you not know if he’s right. He literally showed you the difference between how it can bounce with the hydraulic saver and how it can’t bounce with the transom saver. Apparently you don’t even believe your eyes and proof. 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @adamheskett6245
      @adamheskett6245 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustinLee15 I think it was just a colloquialism

  • @wobblyduck1594
    @wobblyduck1594 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have never used, either....but after watching your demonstration🤨- I definitely will be getting a transom saver device. Thanks for sharing.👍 Officially subscribed.

  • @rickeyholtsclaw7764
    @rickeyholtsclaw7764 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Agreed, 100% .. thank you!

  • @jeremymatlock2049
    @jeremymatlock2049 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    100 % agree ...just had to replace the whole transum on an aluminum jon boat...580 later !!! I bought a transum saver going forward.

  • @joshuawoodruff7280
    @joshuawoodruff7280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agree, but what about triton owners such as myself. Have never seen a transom saver designed for us, especially with large extended center toon. Don't have much options only positive is I don't tow my boat to much maybe 2-3 times a year.

  • @absolute.explore
    @absolute.explore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good point! You are 100% right!

  • @tonypawelek258
    @tonypawelek258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have used a Yamaha Trailer support (the round one) on my 300 HP Yamaha for years. Love it. No Problems. If you buy a crappy cheap boat, your gonna have transom problems anyway. Just sayin

  • @charlescurry620
    @charlescurry620 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I respectfully disagree with the contents of this video. I think the bar style transom saver is a flawed concept. Whenever you’re driving over less than a perfectly smooth surface, your boat and trailer will move in different directions. The trailer flexes, tie down straps stretch and the boat reacts to inertia imparted by road irregularities. Granted, the movement is usually microscopic as long as the boat is strapped down tightly, but when you drive over ruts, potholes or speed-bumps this movement is amplified. If the motor is attached to the trailer the trim hydraulics are repeatedly loaded in both the up and down directions.
    Credit is due to boat and motor manufacturers for very robust designs because no matter what type of transom saver is used, damage does not appear to be common. One highly respected owner of a dealership I bought two boats from didn’t care much for transom savers. He recommended trailering with the motor set on the high end of the trim rams (ground clearance must be considered when doing this). If you really want to keep your boat and motor interface rigid and tilted without putting pressure on trim cylinder housings, a MotorMate style of transom saver is the way to go. Or, just crunch down on a block of wood.

    • @g4outdoors
      @g4outdoors  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@charlescurry620 you lost me at “I respectfully” lol.

  • @bdlivinlife24hrsatime
    @bdlivinlife24hrsatime 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your absolutely right, good video

  • @NotAMartian-1
    @NotAMartian-1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve got a little tinner with a 9.9. when on the trailer my motor flexes my transom and the entire boat.
    Doesn’t happen on the water but on the trailer it does, I’ve been thinking about a transom saver for this reason.

  • @stephenshippos4604
    @stephenshippos4604 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!

  • @sportscarclinic
    @sportscarclinic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice job, good explanation. Let's face it, there are a lot of folks that know they're right, physics be damned. No sense banging your head against the wall of ignorance. Anyway these folks are doing a public service keeping a lot people employed building new boats and fixing broken transoms.

  • @casper3130
    @casper3130 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good info l needed to know today for my new motor

  • @robertyouens7764
    @robertyouens7764 ปีที่แล้ว

    When a motor is in its operating position 100% of its weight is behind the transom. The transom is designed to handle the rotational and downward load. When a motor is pushed to full throttle from a dead stop, a much greater rotational load is applied to the transom. The transom is designed to handle this load.
    When an outboard is tilted up, the powerhead moves to a position in front of the transom and a much more balanced position which reduces rotational loading to a tiny fraction of the rotational load when the boat is operating.
    The purpose of a transom saver is to hold the motor is this more balanced position, to eliminate any bounce that might occur and to keep the lower unit from striking the ground.
    At least in my experience both the stick transom saver and wedge transom saver performs these functions well

  • @offhandacoustic
    @offhandacoustic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, a video without a bunch of BS. Thanks man.

  • @mikej5576
    @mikej5576 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Conventional savors are attached directly to your lower unit. Everytime your trailer hits a bump the energy is transferred from your tires, through the trailer, through the transom savor directly to the lower unit. No thanks. And while I agree The Wedge does take the stress off the hydraulics, it also reduces the load on the transom simply by absorbing the bounce of the motor in transit. The cantilever method is also applied here.
    Many people say, that considering the torque that boat transoms are designed for, that any 'transom savor' is a gimmick.

  • @jeffreyphillip9829
    @jeffreyphillip9829 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. My thoughts exactly.

  • @ΒΑΣΙΛΗΣΚΟΥΡΗΣ-θ7σ
    @ΒΑΣΙΛΗΣΚΟΥΡΗΣ-θ7σ ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thank you for the information. I recently bought a transom saver for my boat and when i trim down the engine completely, it starts to push my boat backwards (action - reaction) and it stresses the winch of the trailer. Is it a problem and how do you deal with it? I have a similar mercury outboard (80 hp). Thank you for your time.

  • @kentuckytrapper780
    @kentuckytrapper780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    100% agree, the hydraulic saver pulled the transom out of my boat.

  • @nolablack17
    @nolablack17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks podna! I really didn't know dat. Na I know.✌🏿

  • @marnold207
    @marnold207 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Almost went away from the rod one for the rubber one. Thank you I will stay with the system attached to trailer.

  • @xl6589
    @xl6589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you 💯 times. 1st time boat owner and my dumb ass have been using that wedge block on my tracker deep v for over 2 years now without knowing what a real transom saver is until the last time I was out on the water and seen another tracker boat loading up putting one on his boat and I was like why is he putting that metal rod on his boat like that. Just order a transom saver and will leave the wedge block in the garage from now on. Thanks again

    • @g4outdoors
      @g4outdoors  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad to be of assistance! I really made this video to push my dads buttons because he tells me I'm wrong about this and still won't agree with me even after seeing the difference in the video LOL.

  • @Mr91495osh
    @Mr91495osh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mercury just came out with a new transom saver.

  • @dpwinfla
    @dpwinfla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great clip! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @RichardShaling
    @RichardShaling 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    100% true! I Preach it to deaf ears all the time. Transom saver on my boat always!

  • @J_N969
    @J_N969 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like how you bounce on it the first time and the trailer is moving pretty good. the second time the trailer barely moves. i guess that transom saver also stiffens your trailer springs.
    what about the extra hydraulic pressure you are creating? not sure it is designed for that.

  • @robertbunnell5045
    @robertbunnell5045 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    best transom saver ever made was made here in baton rouge.la. was constructed of round tubing, was spring loaded therefor the spring allowed you to trim motor down compressing spring,actually locking motor down with hyd. pressure!! if your motor moves up & down at this point you have a check valve malfunction in the power trim manifold.think about it if you can run boat 50 mph down the lake trim your motor up & it holds that position,if it doesnt you have fluid bleeding off motor gos down !! there is also an impact valve in the system,in case you hit something it alows motor to raise up so you dont shear butt. end of boat off. O.M.C CORP. IN EARLY TO MID 90S were blaming transom savers for their gear housings collapsing where the transom saver riding on gear case(directly in front of water pick ups).seen several motors in warranty get turned down for repair,larger motors had built in trailering bracket!! I have a 1997 115 intruder that i have used the trailering bracket it actually mates to to clamp brackets that attatch mottor to transom,when trimming down my trim locks with no movement,owned this boat since 2008 & have no transom issues & travel probably the worst roads in country (south louisiana).

  • @miztatone918
    @miztatone918 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell I have a 20 foot center console. It's an inboard/outboard. Even though just the lower unit hangs I still use a transom saver. It's just easier on everything especially if you have a quality transom saver like I do. Mine is probably 30 years old built nice and solid by a company called pro form . I don't think they are around anymore. I was trying to look it up and couldn't find anything on it but it's so much better built than the ones they sell today . It really is a smart investment it saves the transom and your tilt rams like he said. I see alot of boats around my town motor just bouncing away 😂. I cringe 😬 and I live in a lake town so I see it all the time . Nice boats shitty boats and in-between. Some people are just ignorant others seem to just not care about their boat or trailers for that matter . I see them rusted out .. wheels canted because bad bearings, bent rims and missing wheel studs.... No safety chains or lockpin.. I really try to take care of my rig and keep everything well maintained. It's worth it to me to avoid missing time I could be spending on the water instead of on the side of the road . Wheel bearings and tires seem to be the most neglected things .

  • @MonkeyOnMyBackOutdoors
    @MonkeyOnMyBackOutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been preaching this for years...

  • @d-op1502
    @d-op1502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I how much force is transfered to the transom with the motor at full throttle? Pretty sure way more than some bouncing down the road. I am more worried about the tilt and trim. I recently switched to the th marine motor stiks and love them. My transom is built like a tank (seaark) and doesn't flex.

  • @andrewlittorno2299
    @andrewlittorno2299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about a pontoon boat trailer? I have a Lowe SS230 tritoon. I use a 2 x 4 block as a trim wedge. Can't use a traditional transom saver with the trailer/pontoon setup. Thanks for the informative video

  • @mulespur4806
    @mulespur4806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "If you use the wedge only you might as well do nothing at all" you said it all right then!

  • @Dawgs1974
    @Dawgs1974 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How much downward pressure do you put on it? I feel like I may be trying to snug it down a little to tight.

  • @micro7t
    @micro7t ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I have argued this with guys many times. Can i ask you how do you like your Enertia prop on your Deep V boat? Im stuck between it and a tempest 19P

  • @georgiabassodyssey7604
    @georgiabassodyssey7604 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Evinrude® Owner’s Manual
    Trailering
    Trailer your boat with the outboard in a vertical position. If your trailer does not provide adequate road clearance, the outboard can be trailered by using the tilt support or an accessory trailering bracket. IMPORTANT: Whenever using the tilt support or an accessory trailering bracket, the outboard must be restrained. Bouncing during transport will damage the outboard and boat’s transom.
    Yamaha® Owner’s Manual
    Do not use the tilt support lever or knob when trailering the boat. The outboard motor could shake loose from the tilt support and fall. If the motor cannot be trailered in the normal running position, use an additional support device to secure it in the tilt position. The outboard motor should be trailered and stored in the normal running position. If there is insufficient road clearance in this position, then trailer the outboard motor in the tilt position using a motor support device such as a transom saver bar.
    Mercury® Owner’s Manual
    Trailering Boat/Outboard. Trailer your boat with the outboard tilted down in a vertical operating position. If additional ground clearance is required, the outboard should be tilted up using an accessory outboard support device. Refer to your local dealer for recommendations. Additional clearance may be required for railroad crossings, driveways, and trailer bouncing. IMPORTANT: Do not rely on the power trim/tilt system or tilt support lever to maintain proper ground clearance for trailering. The outboard tilt support lever is not intended to support the outboard for trailering.
    Suzuki® Owner’s Manual
    Damage can occur if you use the tilt lever other than when the boat is moored or is otherwise stationary. The tilt lever relieves pressure from the power trim and tilt and should only be used when the boat is stationary. Do not use the tilt lever when trailering your boat and motor.
    NOTICE. If you use the tilt lever to hold the motor in the fully tilted up position when trailering the boat, towing motion or poor road surfaces may cause unexpected tilt lock release, resulting in damage to the motor and the tilt lock mechanism. Never use the tilt lever to hold the motor in the fully tilted up position when trailering the boat. Use a transom saver bar or similar device to support the weight of the motor.
    Honda® Owner’s Manual
    Use an outboard motor support bar to prevent the outboard motor from moving while trailering the boat. Refer to the manufacturer’s instructions for using an outboard motor support bar. The preferred method is to leave the engine in the normal running position, but if there is insufficient road clearance, you can tilt the outboard motor using a commercially available outboard motor support bar available through your dealer.
    Tohatsu® Owner’s Manual
    Trailering in the tilted position may cause damage to the outboard motor, boat, etc. The tilt support device supplied on your outboard motor is not intended for towing. It is intended to support the outboard motor while the boat is docked, beached, etc.
    When transporting a boat on a trailer with the outboard motor attached, disconnect the fuel line from the out board motor beforehand and keep the outboard motor in the vertical or on a transom saver bar.
    Every owner’s manual except EVINRUDE (RIP) shows a picture of a bar type transom saver attached to the trailer. EVINRUDE has its own aftermarket transom trailering bracket but the lower unit still has to be secured to the boat or trailer to prevent bounce.
    These were from 40-75 HP motor Owner’s Manuals, but applies to all sizes.

    • @g4outdoors
      @g4outdoors  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s quite a write up! Thanks!!

    • @sumtingwong4997
      @sumtingwong4997 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well Hell. That's a wrap folks. This comment should leave no further debate. Well done sir.

    • @JA-gx4hb
      @JA-gx4hb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you ended any debate.

  • @thehousemouse4517
    @thehousemouse4517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    💯 % correct !

  • @joel6689
    @joel6689 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @markuswilmes3694
    @markuswilmes3694 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Thankyou

  • @benboothe6758
    @benboothe6758 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you hit rough roads, potholes, railroad tracks ect. Your trailer takes a shock. With a "Transom saver" you have a direct connection to your lower unit. Basically sending a shock wave to your lower unit&engine. The motor mate is a much better solution.

  • @tintdr
    @tintdr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You need to loosen the top hydrolic screw so all pressure is off the boat and all is on the transom saver every time you tow and you need to remember to tighten it anytime you want to lift the motor or use the boat. Reason you want to do this is so the motor can move freely up and down and gives a little flex , with the transom saver and not loosening the hydrolic screw to free can have negative effects and crack the transom

  • @nolablack17
    @nolablack17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finna go get me a transom saver. It seems to be best.

  • @sagitario12ish
    @sagitario12ish 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, good video.

  • @miketrentham6632
    @miketrentham6632 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are so correct.

  • @amedeoconta
    @amedeoconta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My outboard has a metal latch that flips up for Transit on the trailer that locks it in the up position. Is this the same thing as the hydraulic saver?

    • @holdenthompson1235
      @holdenthompson1235 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's actually a latch for a boat that doesn't have the hydraulic pump. So when you pull it up by hand you can flip that to hold the motor up. Your case it would act as a hydraulic saver. But, not its purpose

    • @machew2009
      @machew2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that is pretty much the same as a hydraulic saver it is just built into the engine

    • @machew2009
      @machew2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@holdenthompson1235 not true that is also on alot of motors that have hydraulic tilt for you to use to help protect your hydraulic and alot of times different then the latch you would find on manual tilt because the manuel tilt ones can usually be activated while engine is still down where the ones on outboards with tilt and trim can only be latch when motor is all the way up

    • @TW14137
      @TW14137 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, those are usually only used when servicing the motor. Manuals all state not to use them while trailering.

  • @kccampbell9140
    @kccampbell9140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The reason there is movement with the wedge is because of its rubber and the weight of the motor is giving it cushion. Same concept as the engine mounts in your vehicle to dampen vibration because solid mounts can do more harm than good. In my opinion hit a pothole with that ridged (transom saver) and I bet there will be more stress rather than having that soft cushion hydo saver. But like I said just my opinion.

    • @fisherman7275
      @fisherman7275 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, the boat and trailer are not one piece. All the bouncing of the trailer is directed straight to the lower unit. Some boats have 10" set back lift plates, the angle from the trailer to the lower unit, I'd think you'd have to set it lower. Now does that saver have a use, yes. Smaller and older motors yes. I wouldn't trust that aluminum bar on a 250, I'll stick with what I have. There is no movement on the motor, yet the trailer and boat bounce when pushed on due to the suspension of the trailer.

  • @blueangel4545
    @blueangel4545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Just about two months ago I watched a person with a tandem axle trailer and 21 foot bass boat with a 300 HP outboard going down the highway, motor at full up tilt and no transom saver. If the driver had seen the movement on that motor and had any common sense he would have stopped at the closest retailer of transom savers and bought one. I could not catch this person to relay the message. No doubt in my mind they will have issues if they don`t rectify this situation.

    • @miztatone918
      @miztatone918 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hell I have a 20 foot center console. It's an inboard/outboard. Even though just the lower unit hangs I still use a transom saver. It's just easier on everything especially if you have a quality transom saver like I do. Mine is probably 30 years old built nice and solid by a company called pro form . I don't think they are around anymore. I was trying to look it up and couldn't find anything on it but it's so much better built than the ones they sell today . It really is a smart investment it saves the transom and your tilt rams like he said. I see alot of boats around my town motor just bouncing away 😂. I cringe 😬 and I live in a lake town so I see it all the time . Nice boats shitty boats and in-between. Some people are just ignorant others seem to just not care about their boat or trailers for that matter . I see them rusted out .. wheels canted because bad bearings, bent rims and missing wheel studs.... No safety chains or lockpin.. I really try to take care of my rig and keep everything well maintained. It's worth it to me to avoid missing time I could be spending on the water instead of on the side of the road . Wheel bearings and tires seem to be the most neglected things .

  • @gregmiller1844
    @gregmiller1844 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree good video!

  • @davidrainey5363
    @davidrainey5363 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video

  • @sworley114
    @sworley114 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the info. Very helpful….

  • @PaulWard-r3u
    @PaulWard-r3u 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Idk I think if the motor is “locked” to the trailer with a transom saver the trailer will push and pull on the lower unit and cause torque on the transom. The trailer will still slide under the boat. Locking the motor to the boat independent of the trailer seems to make more sense

  • @alloverthelake6396
    @alloverthelake6396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! Thanks for the information!👍👊🎣✋😎

    • @g4outdoors
      @g4outdoors  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "And knowing is half the battle." Ah, you're probably too young to get it. lol.

    • @ericsfishingadventures4433
      @ericsfishingadventures4433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@g4outdoors I'm not! Lol

    • @g4outdoors
      @g4outdoors  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ericsfishingadventures4433 That's funny! lol

  • @Wiscwin1
    @Wiscwin1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do you feel about Motormate? I do not have a roller or bracket in middle of boat

  • @kirvenslade8923
    @kirvenslade8923 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Absolutely required if you have to drive through South Carolina on I 95. The worst state in the nation when it comes to roads and 95 is the absolute toilet when it comes to interstate highways. You have to have a transom saver to go through South Carolina. No ifs ands or butts as my dad used to say.

  • @phishertube
    @phishertube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yes yes yes, good job

  • @kevinalleman162
    @kevinalleman162 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use the bar transom saver. Just wish it wouldn't crack my roller on the trailer all the time.

  • @alaskanbuilt
    @alaskanbuilt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the same question as a gentlemen down below....I own a pontoon boat...two toons not three. what type of transom saver do you recommend??

  • @hworkmaniv88
    @hworkmaniv88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! Jeez title says it all.

  • @andrewwolf832
    @andrewwolf832 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Odd topic, I just bought a 2023 V19 and got the cover with it. Do you travel with the cover on? Don’t want to damage a 1500$ cover lol

    • @g4outdoors
      @g4outdoors  ปีที่แล้ว

      We do travel with the cover on all the time. Zero signs of wear.

    • @andrewwolf832
      @andrewwolf832 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@g4outdoors thanks for responding, I may have been over the cost of cover lol. But you know they aren’t cheap. I just ordered a windshield cover so maybe I’ll roll with that most of the time. (Easier to handle)

  • @orca3517
    @orca3517 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this informatin

  • @machew2009
    @machew2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have tried to explain this exact same thing to people on how the one that goes from motor to trim unit is not a transom save and they argue with me so I ask them how is keeping all the weight hanging totally on the transom a transom saver where as the actual transom saver transfers some of the weight to the trailer and off the transom

  • @e.a.b8278
    @e.a.b8278 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if the transom saver damage or scores of the painting of the lower unit of the engine due to differences in bouncing between the trailer and the boat, I quess I will find out after I purchase one.

    • @JA-gx4hb
      @JA-gx4hb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rather have a motor that's a little scuffed up than have to replace my transom.