Since you want to put a Detroit in it. Best advice would be a 4-71 . A standard 35-40 foot powertrain is a 6v-71 that will be too much weight and will cause structural damage which you don’t want. Also your rear interior engine compartment always keep accessible incase you have to do any engine repair from the back end like the exhaust manifold etc. keep up the great work
6v-53 would be a better match and would work out to be roughly the same dimensions as the existing toro-flo. If parts availability is a concern, there’s always a 12 valve Cummins.
So cool to see it washed off and running! Great job! You and I met on the property where you bought it. Dave and I live across the street from where it was sitting for years. Glad we get to see it come back to life through your channel. Thank you!
Great bus , I want to tell you about a wax product I have used over 50 years , Maguiars . They have a red colored bottle called Car Cleaner wax , there’s a bunch of other ones you’ll need , but if it doesn’t clean and shine the outside of that bus , I’ll give you your money Back. Trust me , you can buy most of there waxes anywhere. You’ll be a believer.
11R22.5 is super common semi tire now.. if u don't want that big side wall.. go with a low pro 22.5.. 285/75r22.5.. if u blow a tire somewhere..chances of finding that 10R22.5.. but a low pro or 11R sized tire will be readily available everywhere they deal in big truck tires.. also.. look up Luke at US Coach in Vineland, NJ for all ur hard to find bus parts..
VG Project. Wood take a scale model of bus interior and position items in it for clearances then take carboard and duct tape to mock up positions. IMO. Make front a lounge by driver. The center a kitchen and waste and rear a master bedroom.... The fs vintage fridge is not right energy wise, fix it and get like 3 k for it to fund build......good luck....
The only reason to go with a Detroit is because you like the noise they make or there was already a Detroit in it, making an easy replacement. I wouldn't say you can stop at a random parts store an find Detroit parts. 5.9 Cummins would be a more modern swap engine with parts readily available. I didn't notice if there was blocking under the bus when you were under there. FYI: never get under an air ride bus without blocking! Story after story has been posted about good and smart mechanics getting crushed and killed when the air silently deflates. Be safe and keep filming.
If you're going to get involved in all that I suggest you contact Scott Crosby the bus Grease monkey. If you become a patreon member and you can do it for very inexpensive, then you can do some video chats and he can help you with buses that's what he does he's called the bus Grease monkey
A lot of your leaks are from those slide windows. They were notorious for leaking and rattling. The panels on the roof also leaked. Everything was riveted together too. The roof was sectioned together with rivets. There not blind rivets but they required a riveter on the roof and man inside with a metal dolly to flatten the rivet.
According to an old guy I worked with to build out the interior he used lots of cardboard when laying out the walls, He said it was much cheaper than lumber. Your problem in a city bus is it is geared for city use not highway
What kind of transmission does this have in it? These 29 foot New Looks are interesting, I believe its the only New Look with a inline engine configuration?
Thanks! We aren’t sure yet, we put $100 in it to get the 2+ hours home and haven’t filled it up all the way yet. We are curious about that as well. We’ve got to fix the rear end before we start driving it more.
We had 6V71 Detroit Diesels in ours. No automatics, 4 speeds with reverse being a solenoid switch that had to be engaged and shifting from first to second while sitting still. The clutch linkage ran from front to back. Your pattern had to be precise or you hung it up in gear. Those autos were dog slow even when new. Most autos were only 2 speeds!
If you're going to run this as a motorhome you should put brand new tires on because if you blow one of those out it's going to cost you three times as much as what a new tire would plus you might do more damage just a thought.!!
We will keep that in mind. We listed the bus for a sale a few weeks ago. Hopefully someone that is in the market for one of these will give it a great home and be able to take it the next steps with interior renovations/etc.
Sadly from 2030 on all combustion vehicles including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025 on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Now they want to slow down all the gas station fuel pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime :-(
Next thing to do is drain out all the fluids out of the engine. Probably some nasty oil and transmission fluids. Probably needs new fuel filters also. Otherwise great bus
I did some research on that; I cross referenced the production list from the Ohio Museum of Transportation and according to that this bus was used for UGA. I don't know exactly how long it was in service for but it came off the line and went straight to them. It's actually really neat because we live 30 minutes from UGA so it's (almost) back to where it started.
@@ResurrectedGarage That is really cool you found records on the bus. I was thinking it was a city bus. Did you get the back door to work ? It looked much better after you cleaned of the crap out of the bus. I would get rid of the toilet lol
Thanks, unfortunately we haven't been able to get the back door to work yet. We did take the panel off and the bottom half of the doors have been cut. It was such a bummer! We are hoping to find another set of doors at some point or worse case may end up fixing the current ones.
@@ResurrectedGarage - You really need to get the front doors working properly - we don't want to hear that your charming wife fell out while you were making a left hand turn!
I think it’s a ‘49 or ‘50. It used to be our road sign but they widened the road so we had to move it. It’s on our back burner to get it running one day.
@@jimsmith9819 the last outing we went on was to the NE GA Swap Meet a few months ago and it made it halfway then died on us. We went back later that evening to try to get it to crank just one more time (hopefully). It did and we just drove it to Brittany's parents house 5 minutes down the road. We've still got to get it back to the shop at some point.
I'm not sure why GM decided to go with the Toro Flow on the shorty Fishbowls. They are horribly unreliable engines. The only realistic way I see you doing a Detroit transplant would be to swap the entire 6V71 Detroit engine and V drive Allison transmission unit into it from another Fishbowl bus engine cradle and all. The Detroit engines used in those busses are a transverse mounted engine with the Allison V drive transmission. Unfortunately the Toro Flow is not transverse mounted, and the transmission bellhousing is GMC only not SAE which makes transplanting anything else into it more complicated without bellhousing adapters. I'm not even sure if bellhousing adapters are readily available for such a swap. I would be on the lookout for a scrap Fishbowl for the full engine and transmission swap and correct engine cradle, and I'm sure that there are many out there sitting around. The nice thing is that if you do find the right engine and transmission assembly with cradle together, the swap should be fairly simple. Keep in mind that not all 6V71 Detroit engines are counter clockwise rotation. Most are clockwise rotation. Just so you know.
We have used penetrating oil on plenty of heavy duty applications (with inner and outer lug nuts) with almost no success. The hammer trick works every time
Im famous!! I was mentioned in one of your videos lol. glad you could use my "junk". Looking forward to seeing the progression of this awesome bus.
the gmc works very well, the mechanic knows a lot greetings
Since you want to put a Detroit in it. Best advice would be a 4-71 . A standard 35-40 foot powertrain is a 6v-71 that will be too much weight and will cause structural damage which you don’t want. Also your rear interior engine compartment always keep accessible incase you have to do any engine repair from the back end like the exhaust manifold etc. keep up the great work
Thank you, will definitely keep that in mind.
@@ResurrectedGarage you are very welcome. Keep the updates coming please
6v-53 would be a better match and would work out to be roughly the same dimensions as the existing toro-flo.
If parts availability is a concern, there’s always a 12 valve Cummins.
Good advice 👍
So cool to see it washed off and running! Great job!
You and I met on the property where you bought it. Dave and I live across the street from where it was sitting for years.
Glad we get to see it come back to life through your channel. Thank you!
Thank you! It was good meeting you guys! Thanks for finding us and we are glad you guys can watch the progress. 🙂
This woman is NOT annoying. That’s awesome.
have to watch on mute
Such a task as we have seen, takes a lot of time, effort, and a lot of money, for parts, equipment, and other items to use, good luck with this one.
Really awaiting the next video, to see how the bus build is going 👍👍👍
I love it, can't wait 😀
Thanks guys great bus. Brought back a lot of old memories. Car stuff, not bus stuff.
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Glad you enjoyed it
Wow! I think you should definitely keep this engine. Good work! Great this beautiful bus Is saved by you.
I like the Nash and the red ford pick up
Well that outside cleaned up nice!
Thanks!
I'm glad you want to put a Detroit in it. Because the Toro flow diesel had a tendency to spin out its bearings.
I noticed the pull cords obove the windows they were used to notify the driver that you wanted to get off you would pull it one block before your stop
Great bus , I want to tell you about a wax product I have used over 50 years , Maguiars . They have a red colored bottle called Car Cleaner wax , there’s a bunch of other ones you’ll need , but if it doesn’t clean and shine the outside of that bus , I’ll give you your money Back. Trust me , you can buy most of there waxes anywhere. You’ll be a believer.
Very excellent work and I like you very much and I love old cars
11R22.5 is super common semi tire now.. if u don't want that big side wall.. go with a low pro 22.5.. 285/75r22.5.. if u blow a tire somewhere..chances of finding that 10R22.5.. but a low pro or 11R sized tire will be readily available everywhere they deal in big truck tires.. also.. look up Luke at US Coach in Vineland, NJ for all ur hard to find bus parts..
I know Luke and he is a great guy and I have bought parts for my 1967 GM TDH-4519 city transit bus that I live in full-time, from him.
VG Project. Wood take a scale model of bus interior and position items in it for clearances then take carboard and duct tape to mock up positions. IMO. Make front a lounge by driver. The center a kitchen and waste and rear a master bedroom.... The fs vintage fridge is not right energy wise, fix it and get like 3 k for it to fund build......good luck....
One possibility to get your bus "Up". Move it onto a couple 2x12s. Then your Jack will go under the axel. very cool.
Thanks for the tip
The only reason to go with a Detroit is because you like the noise they make or there was already a Detroit in it, making an easy replacement. I wouldn't say you can stop at a random parts store an find Detroit parts. 5.9 Cummins would be a more modern swap engine with parts readily available.
I didn't notice if there was blocking under the bus when you were under there. FYI: never get under an air ride bus without blocking! Story after story has been posted about good and smart mechanics getting crushed and killed when the air silently deflates. Be safe and keep filming.
Wish i had the space and money to buy one of these Newlooks buses. I love em. Call me crazy but i'd restore it to the public transit interior hahaha.
We've seen people do it both ways, at the end of the day we are just happy people are saving them. :-)
Looking good, it’s coming along 👍🏾 great video.
Thanks 👍
One big project
and they did nothing with it
If you're going to get involved in all that I suggest you contact Scott Crosby the bus Grease monkey. If you become a patreon member and you can do it for very inexpensive, then you can do some video chats and he can help you with buses that's what he does he's called the bus Grease monkey
More please.
A lot of your leaks are from those slide windows. They were notorious for leaking and rattling. The panels on the roof also leaked. Everything was riveted together too. The roof was sectioned together with rivets. There not blind rivets but they required a riveter on the roof and man inside with a metal dolly to flatten the rivet.
Cuando el motor ruge al avanzar me recordó el que tenían los autobuses MASA-SOMEX modelos 1500 y 2300
According to an old guy I worked with to build out the interior he used lots of cardboard when laying out the walls, He said it was much cheaper than lumber.
Your problem in a city bus is it is geared for city use not highway
That is very true. Thanks for the input
Remember these buses in nyc and used at the NYC WORLDS FAIR in 1964
What kind of transmission does this have in it? These 29 foot New Looks are interesting, I believe its the only New Look with a inline engine configuration?
Muito legal 😎 ônibus 🚌 incrível. So much cool bus incrible.
You guys should have bought my spare MC-7.
I've seen y'all stop to get gas in this bus on a couple of videos. Just wondering how much it holds. Any ideas about gas mileage, yet? Love the vids!
Thanks! We aren’t sure yet, we put $100 in it to get the 2+ hours home and haven’t filled it up all the way yet. We are curious about that as well. We’ve got to fix the rear end before we start driving it more.
We had 6V71 Detroit Diesels in ours. No automatics, 4 speeds with reverse being a solenoid switch that had to be engaged and shifting from first to second while sitting still. The clutch linkage ran from front to back. Your pattern had to be precise or you hung it up in gear. Those autos were dog slow even when new. Most autos were only 2 speeds!
You should cut the whole thing and start fresh fix all the leaks and then primer the whole inside before you start building.
Those GM Toroflows were nothing but trouble.
We aren't a big fan of them either.
If you get stuck with it parts et cetera get in touch with grease monkey he will let you know where to get bits for it
If you're going to run this as a motorhome you should put brand new tires on because if you blow one of those out it's going to cost you three times as much as what a new tire would plus you might do more damage just a thought.!!
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We have the window you need...and other parts. Dreamliner Bus Leasing
We will keep that in mind. We listed the bus for a sale a few weeks ago. Hopefully someone that is in the market for one of these will give it a great home and be able to take it the next steps with interior renovations/etc.
Sadly from 2030 on all combustion vehicles including classics will be banned
from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the
Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025
on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas
station per city or county. Now they want to slow down all the gas station fuel
pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in
the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems,
turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and
New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be
done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of
crime here, called emissions and smoke crime :-(
Trump will never let this happen
are you open te back door on te bus. te bus look so cool
Next thing to do is drain out all the fluids out of the engine. Probably some nasty oil and transmission fluids. Probably needs new fuel filters also. Otherwise great bus
Thanks! That's definitely on our list before we start taking it places.
Do.you know what city this bus came from when it was used for people.
I did some research on that; I cross referenced the production list from the Ohio Museum of Transportation and according to that this bus was used for UGA. I don't know exactly how long it was in service for but it came off the line and went straight to them. It's actually really neat because we live 30 minutes from UGA so it's (almost) back to where it started.
@@ResurrectedGarage That is really cool you found records on the bus. I was thinking it was a city bus. Did you get the back door to work ? It looked much better after you cleaned of the crap out of the bus. I would get rid of the toilet lol
Thanks, unfortunately we haven't been able to get the back door to work yet. We did take the panel off and the bottom half of the doors have been cut. It was such a bummer! We are hoping to find another set of doors at some point or worse case may end up fixing the current ones.
@@ResurrectedGarage - You really need to get the front doors working properly - we don't want to hear that your charming wife fell out while you were making a left hand turn!
Put some 11 r 22.5 tires on that dude. Easier to find and much cheaper.
what year is that Nash?
I think it’s a ‘49 or ‘50. It used to be our road sign but they widened the road so we had to move it. It’s on our back burner to get it running one day.
@@ResurrectedGarage i was thinking 49
@@ResurrectedGarage any updates on the bus?
@@jimsmith9819 the last outing we went on was to the NE GA Swap Meet a few months ago and it made it halfway then died on us. We went back later that evening to try to get it to crank just one more time (hopefully). It did and we just drove it to Brittany's parents house 5 minutes down the road. We've still got to get it back to the shop at some point.
@@ResurrectedGarage i hope you get it figured out
I'm not sure why GM decided to go with the Toro Flow on the shorty Fishbowls. They are horribly unreliable engines. The only realistic way I see you doing a Detroit transplant would be to swap the entire 6V71 Detroit engine and V drive Allison transmission unit into it from another Fishbowl bus engine cradle and all. The Detroit engines used in those busses are a transverse mounted engine with the Allison V drive transmission. Unfortunately the Toro Flow is not transverse mounted, and the transmission bellhousing is GMC only not SAE which makes transplanting anything else into it more complicated without bellhousing adapters. I'm not even sure if bellhousing adapters are readily available for such a swap. I would be on the lookout for a scrap Fishbowl for the full engine and transmission swap and correct engine cradle, and I'm sure that there are many out there sitting around. The nice thing is that if you do find the right engine and transmission assembly with cradle together, the swap should be fairly simple. Keep in mind that not all 6V71 Detroit engines are counter clockwise rotation. Most are clockwise rotation. Just so you know.
Thanks for the input, this is something we have considered, not sure what direction we are going to go just yet.
Need some new wiper blades and yes a detroit will be a better engine
To lok nut it's better penetratings oil that a hammer 6:27 and 7:00
We have used penetrating oil on plenty of heavy duty applications (with inner and outer lug nuts) with almost no success. The hammer trick works every time
I bet you all your windows are leaking the seals are bad you see where the stains are on the side it's going from the top to the bottom
Hello, what your doing, inflating the tires
Will, save you $$$ on gas.
That will not work
Since this video the bus is completely gutted and a clean slate.
Bus grease monkey that is
The engine sounds bad Take it apart and rebuild it or have someone do it If it is not done then the engine will overheat and BLOW UP!
Nice bus check out bus Grease monkey channel the man is amazing he'll be able to tell you everything you need to know