There's something undeniably charming and nostalgic about the PC speaker. Reminds me of the dark nights spent playing Hole in one miniature golf and Catacombs Abyss 3d.
I like your passion for PC DOS gaming and the knowledge you accumulated about vintage PC tech. I did grow up in the era of Win 3.11 and whatever the DOS version was back then, but I sure don't miss the messing around with getting sound or freeing that last kilobyte of base memory to run a game and squeeze in a mouse driver or something. DirectX sure helped a lot. your experiment with the IBM 5150 reminded me of that. and I wish I had a C64 back then.
OK, this is pretty wild! I wouldn't have guessed the old guy could run this game, but I'm proud of him for trying so hard and doing such a great job! And yes, I'm talking about your computer like it's a person. Nothing wrong with a little classic PC anthropomorphizing. :)
This was one of my favorite games. And I played it on a Boss XT 8088. It was there with Game Star Hockey League, Donkey Kong, and Spy Hunter. Used that machine from 1984 to 1995, when I bought my own computer so I didn't have to share with the family. I upgraded to a 486 DX2 66 with Win 95.
I also went into the case and spliced into the PC speaker wires and put in a potentiometer to adjust volume, and a headphone jack that turned off the speaker when you plugged in you headphones.
The intro sequence would look good on a monochrome monitor. Get that ghosting effect... in fact I think the whole game would look good in Hercules emulation on a monochrome monitor.
phreakindee, I noticed how much a different game the Sega CD version is. I think it tops them all, hopping on Fusion emulator, grab the BI0S, grab Silpheed, amazing. Music, as well, I think it has more atmosphere. Very neat classic game indeed
This was one of the first games I ever played along with Thexder and Space Quest and I completely forgot about it. I was only 3 or 4 at the time so I don't remember the computer I played it on.
I'm trying to play this game on my model 25, but sadly it keeps thinking it's MCGA graphics has EGA of which it doesn't, so I can't actually see anything. Is there a way to force CGA?
I know you're early in building your website, but do you have any plans to have forums set up? I'd love to see a forum to discuss old dos games, and maybe you could have ADG in on the action as well.
hmm... Think the game would run similarly on a 8086-based Zenith SupersPORT? I imagine performance'll be pretty similar, even keeping the 8086's slight lead on the 8088 in mind.
Do you have video of this game playing with a sound card? The PC speaker riff was pretty awesome was expecting it to turn off with every shot you did but I think the game said I am awesome time for some riffs. xD
@ThomasGGebert What's funny is that I've tried running old games on my modern computer, and they run so fast that you die right away, and you have to use a utility to slow it down:) That was with a windows game. I do have a question, and hopefully you or someone else can answer it. If you are running a DOS emulator of some kind on a modern computer, do you still have to use a slowdown utility?
Random thought I had, LGR, if you happen to read this, since you like the sound of the IBM keyboard so much (and I don't blame you) do you use a CHERRY Blue based keyboard? I personally do and I love it, only has 6KRO since it is USB not PS/2, but that's really enough for most circumstances.
I finished watching your video awhile ago, and finally downloaded the game and started playing on my dos pc and its pretty good to bad I am not that great at it, but i'll get there, got my sound blaster 16 to pretend to be a adlib, oh! amazing idea for you, you should put the adlib in the IBM 5150 and play that game with sound!!!!!!!
@Audiomancer Dosbox can be a pain to set up initially if you don't know what you are doing. I honestly have no idea how I learned how to do it, but I'm sure there is a tutorial out there for it or something. If you are really stuck, you can message or IM me or something.
lol, i wonder what seconds-per-frame this poor little machine would chug the actually animation that comes after the shakespeare quote at the beginning haha. you only would have had to have waited an additional 15 minutes or something to find out, haha also: i always muted the sound, not the music, 'cause the music is awesome. though i do love the sound on what little i've played on the Sega CD and PS2 versions (love that cheesy radio chatter..) edit: at 10:20ish, he mentions that the game is easier when slowed down. i once actually saw a video on youtube where the person playing it beat Gloire at the final level, even though they went into that level without the B powerup (the one that makes you invicible against the red-dot bullets). maybe with the slowdown, i'd be able to beat Gloire myself, too, without the B powerup!
Dose anyone know the name of the program DR something , It would scan your video card and repair mode`s so they would work and show on your CRT , also Q??? mem manger it would fake ram on your computer give you like 8 meg if you only had 4
Thats awesome that you can run that game on the original IBM pc, I wish i had one of those but to pricey and I have no space when I move out I having a computer room, going to have to share it with my gf for her arty crafty stuff but still! but speaking of her i have to go talk to her now, I'll finish watching this latter but I am surprised how the actually game seems to work quite good from what Is seen so far, besides the intro.
like i said on another comment check out my silpheed video on ibm ps/1 2011 with custom ibm silpheed that use the ps/1 sound card (tandy like 3 channel + fm with the possibility to use fm+mt32 instead of 3 channel)
This video illustrates why I don't miss the old DOS days. I love the games, but they play so much more easily on an emulator. I don't have to fiddle for disks, have the drive eat them, or reboot the computer every time I want to play another game with different settings. And... the computer goes the speed I want. Long live emulators!
The 486 days meant sweating over which files you could delete from your full HD to squeeze in something new (without pissing off your mom by deleting something she needed), and then spending most of the afternoon wearing out your 3.5" drive testing every imaginable permutation of the autoexec.bat driver/options sequence to get your game to run. And then you would end up with an IRQ conflict, so "lol no sound." At least in the old old (pc/at/xt) days it seemed like stuff either ran (crappily) or it didn't. I think it was a lot more normal for people to have made a lot of compromises on performance; these machines cost like 5 to 10 times as much back then as a normal computer today. Retrogamers like LGR have the advantage that they can put together dream machines that were really the exception for their time - the kind of computer that the richest kid in your grade had, not the kind that the average household had.
The Sega CD version of this is way better, better music, better graphics, looks kinda like Starfox on the SNES but more with polygons, higher resolution and a better frame rate. I didn't even know the Sega CD was capable of 3D polygon graphics but there you go.
LGR, I think I know why that speech at the beginning sounds like alien gibberish! Not only did they try to synthesise speech with a PC speaker; I'm pretty sure it's in Japanese! If you listen to the tone and rhythm of the speech, it seems Japanese to me.
Ahh the good old days. The next time you guys curse and swear at the "uber-slow" loading time of some current-gen games, remember this: some DOS/Amiga/C64 games loaded so "fast", that you could easily eat dinner or take a quick shower and it still would be only the main menu that was loaded.
Oh man, you really should have played this with a Sound Card, this game sounded so amazing with a sound card. It was like a tech demo for my Game blaster
So phreakindee, i saw this vid and thought this game looked pretty cool even under the limited capabilities of the 5150, so it made me want to play it, so i finally got a pc88 emu working on my psp and this game runs decently and i have to say, i wish i was running it physically because this game is really really fun.
anyone who wants to play go to oldgamz.com You need Java installed, but that's all. space to fire, enter to skip, space to select weapon, arrow keys to move and change selected weapon.
I think this is the best PC speaker music I have ever heard. I was going to skip this video but after a few seconds of the music I couldn't leave.
That's Japanese SHMUPs for you!
I never heard a PC speaker rock so hard, especially at around 9:33!
I love the space ship it looks like a hand with its middle finger out flying around.
Even despite hearing just the PC speaker beeps, I can still hear the original soundtrack overlaid. XD So awesome...!
There's something undeniably charming and nostalgic about the PC speaker. Reminds me of the dark nights spent playing Hole in one miniature golf and Catacombs Abyss 3d.
The music is really freaking good for PC Speaker quality. Usually that thing just makes your ears bleed.
I like your passion for PC DOS gaming and the knowledge you accumulated about vintage PC tech. I did grow up in the era of Win 3.11 and whatever the DOS version was back then, but I sure don't miss the messing around with getting sound or freeing that last kilobyte of base memory to run a game and squeeze in a mouse driver or something. DirectX sure helped a lot. your experiment with the IBM 5150 reminded me of that. and I wish I had a C64 back then.
LGR please play this game with the very rare IBM sound card. The robot voice at the start is incredible
OK, this is pretty wild! I wouldn't have guessed the old guy could run this game, but I'm proud of him for trying so hard and doing such a great job! And yes, I'm talking about your computer like it's a person. Nothing wrong with a little classic PC anthropomorphizing. :)
looks even more beautiful when it's not lagging so much.
Ha! Someone named Butts was in the credits...
That's almost as funny as Fred Fuchs!
This was one of my favorite games. And I played it on a Boss XT 8088. It was there with Game Star Hockey League, Donkey Kong, and Spy Hunter. Used that machine from 1984 to 1995, when I bought my own computer so I didn't have to share with the family. I upgraded to a 486 DX2 66 with Win 95.
I also went into the case and spliced into the PC speaker wires and put in a potentiometer to adjust volume, and a headphone jack that turned off the speaker when you plugged in you headphones.
@Audiomancer With something like DosBox, you can actually manually set the cycles to fit your liking. No additional utility is needed.
Awesome classic Japanese Shmups could run on a 5150!? Who knew?? Awesome, Clint
Dos version are only available at oversea except japan
I take this over these space shooting games on iOS anytime.
ps1 silpheed version on a ps1 2011 + ibm sound card +external MT32 = ega+beautiful music+excelent crispy PCM sound effects!
OMG WHAT A BEAUTIFULL INTRO!!!!!!
I played this a lot when I was a kid. I got the SEGA CD version a few years ago and that was a great sequel, fun, awesome music etc.
The intro sequence would look good on a monochrome monitor. Get that ghosting effect... in fact I think the whole game would look good in Hercules emulation on a monochrome monitor.
phreakindee, I noticed how much a different game the Sega CD version is. I think it tops them all, hopping on Fusion emulator, grab the BI0S, grab Silpheed, amazing. Music, as well, I think it has more atmosphere. Very neat classic game indeed
I was curious how this looked/played compared to the Sega-CD version. Thanks for sharing!
This was one of the first games I ever played along with Thexder and Space Quest and I completely forgot about it. I was only 3 or 4 at the time so I don't remember the computer I played it on.
You have a mt-32 now, use it! :)
The best way to play this game is with MCGA graphics, so if you have a PS/2 Model 30 or Model 25, try running it on that.
@ThomasGGebert Awesome, I learned something new today:) I've not had much luck getting any sort of DOS emulation to work.
@phreakindee Cool. Are you going to do a video on how it plays on a Tandy? I'm curious how it holds up compared to the VGA/Adlib equipped PC.
This game is very similar to Gyruss. I wonder when it was made vs when the arcade game Gyruss was released.
I'm trying to play this game on my model 25, but sadly it keeps thinking it's MCGA graphics has EGA of which it doesn't, so I can't actually see anything. Is there a way to force CGA?
I know you're early in building your website, but do you have any plans to have forums set up? I'd love to see a forum to discuss old dos games, and maybe you could have ADG in on the action as well.
Hi, phreakindee
I also this game with version 2.4
I want to know which version you have.
Thanks for attached memorial review.
hmm... Think the game would run similarly on a 8086-based Zenith SupersPORT? I imagine performance'll be pretty similar, even keeping the 8086's slight lead on the 8088 in mind.
Do you have video of this game playing with a sound card?
The PC speaker riff was pretty awesome was expecting it to turn off with every shot you did but I think the game said I am awesome time for some riffs. xD
4:44 - Holy inconsistencies, Batman! First it says "Press ENTER," but then it says "Type ENTER!"
@ThomasGGebert What's funny is that I've tried running old games on my modern computer, and they run so fast that you die right away, and you have to use a utility to slow it down:) That was with a windows game. I do have a question, and hopefully you or someone else can answer it. If you are running a DOS emulator of some kind on a modern computer, do you still have to use a slowdown utility?
Random thought I had, LGR, if you happen to read this, since you like the sound of the IBM keyboard so much (and I don't blame you) do you use a CHERRY Blue based keyboard?
I personally do and I love it, only has 6KRO since it is USB not PS/2, but that's really enough for most circumstances.
sheesh, even our 286 had a hard drive back in the day. I guess I was spoiled :P
Oh. It does. I didn't know anything about the ps/1 when I wrote that message!
the music is at the right speed, but the video isn't
This used to run smoothly on my Tandy 1000/TL2 back in the day
could simcity classic work on the ibm 5150?
As long as it's equipped with enough RAM, yes.
Better than most games bleating through the PC speaker for music.
Does Silpheed support Tandy graphics and sound?
I finished watching your video awhile ago, and finally downloaded the game and started playing on my dos pc and its pretty good to bad I am not that great at it, but i'll get there, got my sound blaster 16 to pretend to be a adlib, oh! amazing idea for you, you should put the adlib in the IBM 5150 and play that game with sound!!!!!!!
Am I right in assuming that having the music and sound effects both turned on slows the game down?
@Audiomancer Dosbox can be a pain to set up initially if you don't know what you are doing. I honestly have no idea how I learned how to do it, but I'm sure there is a tutorial out there for it or something. If you are really stuck, you can message or IM me or something.
But it doesn't have music from the original silpheed I assume...
I had access to an 8088 PC that would play this.
Memories.
you should stick a VGA/EGA card in the 5150 and see how it plays
lol, i wonder what seconds-per-frame this poor little machine would chug the actually animation that comes after the shakespeare quote at the beginning haha. you only would have had to have waited an additional 15 minutes or something to find out, haha
also: i always muted the sound, not the music, 'cause the music is awesome. though i do love the sound on what little i've played on the Sega CD and PS2 versions (love that cheesy radio chatter..)
edit: at 10:20ish, he mentions that the game is easier when slowed down. i once actually saw a video on youtube where the person playing it beat Gloire at the final level, even though they went into that level without the B powerup (the one that makes you invicible against the red-dot bullets). maybe with the slowdown, i'd be able to beat Gloire myself, too, without the B powerup!
Dose anyone know the name of the program DR something , It would scan your video card and repair mode`s so they would work and show on your CRT , also Q??? mem manger it would fake ram on your computer give you like 8 meg if you only had 4
Alex Smith I believe it was called Virtua Drive/VMEM
I wonder how well this would play on a FreeDos machine with a Quad core CPU, four gigs of RAM, and an nVidia GTS 250
Polygons!
Thats awesome that you can run that game on the original IBM pc, I wish i had one of those but to pricey and I have no space when I move out I having a computer room, going to have to share it with my gf for her arty crafty stuff but still! but speaking of her i have to go talk to her now, I'll finish watching this latter but I am surprised how the actually game seems to work quite good from what Is seen so far, besides the intro.
Awesome thanks 👍 sir
how come a PC speaker can make that scraping noise when xacalite is speaking?
Because that was always done by the PC speaker!
Everyone says it needs to be done in AdLib and I love AdLib a LOT.
PHREAKINDEE, DO IT WITH AN ADLIB!
like i said on another comment check out my silpheed video on ibm ps/1 2011 with custom ibm silpheed that use the ps/1 sound card (tandy like 3 channel + fm with the possibility to use fm+mt32 instead of 3 channel)
nope it has the original music is always the same on every sound card but with different quality and/or sounds
Your whistling sounds like an owl.
I love it
This video illustrates why I don't miss the old DOS days. I love the games, but they play so much more easily on an emulator. I don't have to fiddle for disks, have the drive eat them, or reboot the computer every time I want to play another game with different settings. And... the computer goes the speed I want. Long live emulators!
only if your lazy i perfer the old fashion way ;)
The 486 days meant sweating over which files you could delete from your full HD to squeeze in something new (without pissing off your mom by deleting something she needed), and then spending most of the afternoon wearing out your 3.5" drive testing every imaginable permutation of the autoexec.bat driver/options sequence to get your game to run. And then you would end up with an IRQ conflict, so "lol no sound."
At least in the old old (pc/at/xt) days it seemed like stuff either ran (crappily) or it didn't. I think it was a lot more normal for people to have made a lot of compromises on performance; these machines cost like 5 to 10 times as much back then as a normal computer today. Retrogamers like LGR have the advantage that they can put together dream machines that were really the exception for their time - the kind of computer that the richest kid in your grade had, not the kind that the average household had.
The Sega CD version of this is way better, better music, better graphics, looks kinda like Starfox on the SNES but more with polygons, higher resolution and a better frame rate. I didn't even know the Sega CD was capable of 3D polygon graphics but there you go.
Sega CD version is actually a sequel,with entirely new model of silpheed,from SA-08 to sa-77
floppy disk drive make some noise but hhh it's good to hear that.
memorious item.. hh
and pc speaker.. sucks my ear but..
It's good
CLICK, CLACK, CLICKITTY CLACK, CLICK, CLACK, CLICKITTY CLACK
*disk loading*
CLICK, CLACK, CLICKITTY CLACK
Good video!
LGR, I think I know why that speech at the beginning sounds like alien gibberish! Not only did they try to synthesise speech with a PC speaker; I'm pretty sure it's in Japanese! If you listen to the tone and rhythm of the speech, it seems Japanese to me.
No,the IBM ps/1 version have digitized English,which also present in apple ii gs version
Ahh the good old days.
The next time you guys curse and swear at the "uber-slow" loading time of some current-gen games, remember this: some DOS/Amiga/C64 games loaded so "fast", that you could easily eat dinner or take a quick shower and it still would be only the main menu that was loaded.
Oh man, you really should have played this with a Sound Card, this game sounded so amazing with a sound card. It was like a tech demo for my Game blaster
The game was already a bit too demanding for the original IBM 5150 PC
my 5150 with a 286 speedup board would play this
I NEED TO HEAR THAT!
But with a REAL AdLib, not an emulator.
IBM 5150 + Silpheed + Ad Lib = ???
somehow some of your comments make you sound like Duke Nukem to me.
"Insert 5 1/4 Disk #4"
wat ?
I tried this game on a 20mhz 286.)
So phreakindee, i saw this vid and thought this game looked pretty cool even under the limited capabilities of the 5150, so it made me want to play it, so i finally got a pc88 emu working on my psp and this game runs decently and i have to say, i wish i was running it physically because this game is really really fun.
anyone who wants to play go to oldgamz.com
You need Java installed, but that's all. space to fire, enter to skip, space to select weapon, arrow keys to move and change selected weapon.
this game could have looked and performed better on vectrex
FIRST.........PC ever (5150) doesn't look to bad actually...
@ThomasGGebert Probably won't even run.
it looks stodgy
just painful...