1987 IBM Music Feature Card: Is it really worth $3000?

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  • The IBM PC Music Feature is one of the rarest, most collectible sound cards for DOS PCs. Sure, you can get a Yamaha FB-01 FM synthesizer that does practically the same thing, but the IMFC! It's a legend! Is it worth nearly $3,000 for one complete in box? Let's unbox and set this one up to find out.
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    ● All background music licensed from:
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    00:00 The First Sound Card! Sort of
    00:37 $3,000? Is it worth it?
    01:12 Pre-IMFC sound devices
    01:56 Music Feature vs AdLib
    04:04 A sound card for composers
    05:33 Unboxing the thing
    07:51 FM synth sound chips, card features
    09:11 Installing & setup in an IBM PC AT
    10:13 In-store demo music
    11:37 Yamaha Compose & Playrec software
    13:38 The games! Sierra On-Line games
    15:21 Yamaha FB-01 MIDI tone generator
    16:45 Summary & Outroduction
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  • @Scalibq
    @Scalibq ปีที่แล้ว +655

    A fundamental difference between the AdLib and IMFC is that the AdLib exposes the OPL2 chip directly to the host PC, so you can program every aspect of the chip. The IMFC is literally a MIDI interface connected to an FB-01-like device. As such, there is no way to acces the OPP chip directly. Any sound has to be programmed via MIDI SysEx commands, so you're limited to programming parameters through the SysEx commands implemented in the firmware.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  ปีที่แล้ว +295

      Now that’s a fascinating distinction. Thank you for the insight, Scali! Your work proved extremely useful and fun to experiment with throughout making this video :)

    • @TheMovieCreator
      @TheMovieCreator ปีที่แล้ว +42

      That being said, Yamaha exposes most of the native parameters of the OPP chip through SysEx extended controller-change messages. You might not have cycle-perfect timing over the registers, but you could at least set them to what you want. Pretty much bypassing most of the limitations from ordinary MIDI.
      Also, I should totally use my IBM Music Feature more!

    • @Toonrick12
      @Toonrick12 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      In layman's terms, the AdLib can communicate with other parts of the computer, while the IMFC can't?

    • @FuzzBucket69
      @FuzzBucket69 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      computers are kewwwl

    • @Stoney3K
      @Stoney3K ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Toonrick12 Pretty much it. On the AdLib, the OPL-2 is connected directly to the ISA bus, so you can program specific registers to manipulate the sound directly and you can read the status of the chip, while the IMFC is connected through (on-card) MIDI and through the MIDI output port only, with a limited set of commands that allow you to edit patches but not direct control over the chip's sound generating features.

  • @chrisdakers3688
    @chrisdakers3688 ปีที่แล้ว +640

    Sound aside, you've really nailed quality video capture of a CRT screen.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  ปีที่แล้ว +247

      Thanks! I’ve got a good setup going lately and that helps.

    •  ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I came here to write this. It's not easy to record a CRT so well.

    • @WalrusFPGA
      @WalrusFPGA ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Agreed! I've been scouring the web for pics and footage of EGA monitors this week and this was a godsend! Amazing quality footage- and in 4K! 🤩

    • @RyanDeLaHaye
      @RyanDeLaHaye ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This times a million. So many videos of crt are cringeworthy at best. But this is amazing. Granted what you see irl must not be great if it looks that good to us. I’m sure the needed settings for clear video make irl rough.

    • @medes5597
      @medes5597 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@LGR you've managed to perfect what took Stewart Chaifet and the Computer Chronicles team about a decade, and even then they didn't capture it as well (they had to use full screen polarising lenses over the monitor in the mid 90s episodes!). I'm very impressed.

  • @jaysherman2615
    @jaysherman2615 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    This is why I love LGR. Treating every item reviewed with the enthusiasm someone would have as if it were released yesterday.

    • @baby333
      @baby333 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      exactlyyyyyy :)

  • @l-l
    @l-l ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Jeff, thank you for allowing LGR to document this rare card! I know him opening and messing around with a pristine example is something most collectors wouldn’t do.

    • @MrJest2
      @MrJest2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I imagine Jeff was fully planning on opening it up and installing it in a machine, at least for a bit, anyway and he knew it would be treated with care. But yes, many collectors (and that's really what this is these days; a collector's item rather than a usable piece of retro-tech) wouldn't even break the seal on the box...

    • @glitchedoom
      @glitchedoom ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Having it documented in a high quality video like this will do more to preserve this bit of tech than keeping sealed in plastic ever would, and I'm glad Jeff understands this.

  • @retropuffer2986
    @retropuffer2986 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    New old stock IBM Music card getting installed in a new old stock IBM AT. Both of which were unboxed for our viewing pleasure. What a time to be alive! ☺

  • @tharfagreinir
    @tharfagreinir ปีที่แล้ว +164

    Sierra were truly ahead of their time during that brief window of time when they were putting more effort into their soundtracks than anyone else. They sound really nice on this card!

    • @joe--cool
      @joe--cool ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Starting up the first Wing Commander with a MT-32 still blows me away like it did back then.

    • @bad.sector
      @bad.sector ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Really depends on the game, for example Space Quest 3 really sounded bad on that card. However, Larry 3 probably sounded even better on the MFC: th-cam.com/video/zvfc0LidqFI/w-d-xo.html

    • @krux02
      @krux02 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There is a video out there, where Roberta Williams apologizes for pushing people into buying ridiculously expensive audio equipment that was pretty much abandoned when games had CD-Audio.

    • @bsd107
      @bsd107 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sierra On-line not only heavily supported a wide range of music cards, they really wanted users to buy them to get the most out of their games. They really did believe in the experience. I STILL have an audio cassette tape that Sierra produced and sold (for basically shipping cost) that demoed the different sound cards with some of their games. I used that back in the day to decide that it was worth the insane amount of money at the time to splurge and get a Roland MT-32 instead of an AdLib (or Sound Blaster) card. The soundtracks were mind blowing played through a true stereo system at the time. (In fact, I had an IBM PS/2 Model 50, so I had to get the MicroChannel version of the MPU-401 card to interface with the MT-32, adding even more $$$….)

    • @bad.sector
      @bad.sector ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bsd107 Interesting piece of info... I wasn't aware about the cassette shipping!
      I had a (used, for cheap) PS/2 model 50Z and was negatively surprised when I wanted to get a Logitech sound card installed... they told me the next day the bus wasn't compatible.
      Saved that money to invest it a year later in a P75 system with an original SB AWE32 instead.

  • @devikwolf
    @devikwolf ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Man, I heard about this ages ago and never thought I'd even see a video about it.

  • @Brogboolius_Maximus
    @Brogboolius_Maximus ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The early days of sound cards were truly wild. I distinctly remember when my Dad upgraded our family computer to have a Roland sound card, and being absolutely blown away by how good game music sounded all of a sudden. Descent in particular.
    Great video!

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Along with the prices. Unlike the Amiga 500 they were definitely aimed at the professional music studio as opposed to the casual gamer. I guess back then anything seemed cheap compared to a Fairlight synthesize. When will Clint review one of those ?

    • @fonesrphunny7242
      @fonesrphunny7242 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember trying all the MIDI / AdLib options, just to see how different they sound. When I got a newer soundcard, I'd try all my favorite games again.

    • @V1VISECT6
      @V1VISECT6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Descent had an awesome soundtrack. The CD version of D2s soundtrack blew my mind when I was a kid.

    • @darthwiizius
      @darthwiizius ปีที่แล้ว

      I never played Descent but Foresaken (descent clone) has a rockin' electronic soundtrack. I just had to buy the remaster on Steam when I found out it was a thing just to relive those 90s days and to have dem toons in uncompressed form (I played it on N64 back then).

  • @Atlink
    @Atlink ปีที่แล้ว +57

    There is something about the sound of FM Synthesis that makes me all happy inside. I think it's due to the fact that you're not using instruments, but crude facsimiles of the *sound* of an instrument but are still able to make something incredible sounding from it. There are some music tracks that just sound better as FM Synth, and no Wavetable Synth is gonna tell me otherwise. I really wish more games leaned into it, especially since it's possible to emulate with pretty decent results.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Case in point: the entire soundtrack from Tyrian. Sounds amazing on FM, but a pale imitation on General MIDI. Especially tracks like "Gyges, Will You Please Help Me?", "One Mustn't Fall", "Sarah's Song", or "Tyrian, The Level". That FM guitar sound just can't be beat.
      Oh, and special mention to "X_EVIL.IMF" from Spear of Destiny. The MIDI version used in Doom 2's secret level 31 (D_EVIL.MUS) is pretty good, but the original FM version is even better.
      If anyone reading this is considering making a retro PC game, consider using S3M's FM support for the music. Powerful and well-documented format, even if the FM capabilities aren't used very often. You can even use both FM and samples together, though few playback programs support both at once.

  • @birdbrain4445
    @birdbrain4445 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    As someone whose only exposure to the retro tech ecosystem is your content, this is yet another card I've never heard of. Interested to see what it's about, cool to touch on another AdLib Gold-style legend.
    EDIT: Man yeah, this thing sounds *pristine*, I love it. Warm and smooth, with a 'depth' to it. What a groundbreaking product. It's actually cool that the sound of it is not unique to the card; it makes experiencing that sound easier.
    I also knew immediately that the answer to the titular question would be a resounding 'no', lol, and actually for pretty similar reasons to the Gold which I thought would apply here. It's a case of economies of scale almost - this card was rare back then as it is now for a good reason.

    • @OldUKAds
      @OldUKAds ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's not retro, it's a vintage piece of kit.

  • @acomingextinction
    @acomingextinction ปีที่แล้ว +80

    What an incredibly cool card. I love how beautifully over-engineered old 1980s IBM products could be. (That support bracket!)
    Also - Jeff, you're a legend.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm guessing that was a stock item for inserting any full length card in certain later IBM machines that lacked the row of brackets in the original PC/G, /XT and /AT. Once IBM stopped including brackets with machines, they would probably sell them separately and bundle them with all later sales of cards.

    • @joe--cool
      @joe--cool ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johndododoe1411 Not many people needed 6 full size slots. My PC-AT clone has them though, even if the cards wouldn't fit due to components on the board.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joe--cool That's bad board design, eberything around the slots must have clearance for cards that extend backwards according to the specs, even if the case is too short.

    • @Fay7666
      @Fay7666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The brackets are still a thing to this day, even if it's mostly a server / workstation thing.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fay7666 Big modern GPUs are also full length cards that hang some weight on the brackets.

  • @BollingHolt
    @BollingHolt ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Dang. That stereo sound sounds pretty damn good. I never knew this card existed! I entered my sound card world with the Media Vision Thunder Board in the early 90s ;)

    • @MrWolfSnack
      @MrWolfSnack ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had the SoundBlaster card that came stock with my Gateway Essential tower PC.

    • @BollingHolt
      @BollingHolt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrWolfSnack I think my first ever Sound Blaster card was an AWE32. I used that Thunder Board for years LOL.

    • @mikesol1162
      @mikesol1162 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I only knew it existed from seeing it in Sierra's installers back in the day.

    • @BollingHolt
      @BollingHolt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikesol1162 I probably just read over it and never had it register since it was irrelevant to me LOL

    • @mikesol1162
      @mikesol1162 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BollingHolt My first card was the Game Blaster which was the precursor to the Sound Blaster. I then got the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 from Media Vision.

  • @chasebush09
    @chasebush09 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is one more reason out of many why I love this channel: I've never heard of this card before, but now I'm learning all about this space of music production of the time. I love learning about this stuff through this channel. The music feature seems like a very interesting player in the IBM PC soundcard market. I would love to see even more videos of software, hardware, and peripherals related to music production of the 80s and 90s. Awesome work!

  • @JenniferinIllinois
    @JenniferinIllinois ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Didn't even know this existed until now. In 1987 I was rocking the SID-chipped Commodore 64.😉

  • @pianokeyjoe
    @pianokeyjoe ปีที่แล้ว +29

    You have made my day with this! The YM2164 is the same chip used in the following Keyboard synthesizers: Yamaha DX21,DX27,DX100,FB01(tone module),KORG DS8 and KORG 707. It is 4 operator FM and as such it is powerful and is a full featured synth that can be controlled and edited by midi sysex and compatible softwares and plugins!

    • @jfwfreo
      @jfwfreo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The IBM card was basically a Yamaha FB-01 on an ISA card that you could send MIDI to.

    • @stereorealist9531
      @stereorealist9531 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jfwfreo Ah, so that's why those preset names at 11:38 seemed so familiar lol

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also the SFG05. A music cartridge made for MSX computers including Yamaha's own. I can't help wonder if a complete CX5M setup would have been cheaper than this card. Since the system was launched in 1984 by 1987 almost certainly on the second hand market.
      p.s. If you aren't familiar with the CX6M most of the Yamaha software cartridges were for things like a DX7 editor. Very handy for the professional musician.

  • @juandenz2008
    @juandenz2008 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Interesting ! Big thanks to Jeff for letting you open up the packaging and demonstrate the card to the viewers !

  • @CameronHuff
    @CameronHuff ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Having the letters IBM attached to the card is what made it pricey.

    • @daghtus
      @daghtus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These days, the three letters changed to RGB

  • @rebeccaschade3987
    @rebeccaschade3987 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Oh my. Now I'm even more happy that I bought an FB-01 a while back. I wanted it for music production, as it's famous for certain sounds like the "Solid Bass" aka. "Lately Bass" sound for example, and I'm a big fan of '80s FM synths. But finding out that it's supported as a device for old games? Yikes, I never knew. Suddenly my side-by-side combo of FB-01 and SC-55 looks even cooler ^^

    • @rommix0
      @rommix0 ปีที่แล้ว

      For Lately Bass that would actually be the TX81Z

  • @RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera
    @RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Very impressive and quite fascinating since I never heard this Soundcard before because most people already know the Sound Blaster or the Ad Lib with their FM synthesizer capabilities which both are iconic legendary cards but hearing this particular card for the first time and I'm quite impressed since I always love FM synthesizers that organic Chip Tone feel is just awww.

    • @pepperfish_
      @pepperfish_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'll be honest the day that onboard audio came about I was actually pleased. Setting up IRQ's all the time and having conflicts with IDE controllers and VGA cards and a Modem. It's fun and novel to look at it now but this was a pain in the ass since all I really wanted to do was play quake and Warcraft 2 (Dial-up Multiplayer) Audio on PC's was an acceptable compromise .Most people only cared about having an Intel CPU and how big the hard disk was.

  • @guardiane
    @guardiane ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, it's weird for me to say this, but my heart dropped when you opened and removed the sound card from it's packaging for the first time...I can just imagine going back in time to when this sort of hardware was brand new and the idea itself was fresh and exciting...sigh...I miss those days of early computing. As troublesome as it could be (only because I didn't know anything about computers back then) it was still an amazing time worth re-living. This is why I love your channel and your style of reviewing/editing. It's like you're able to experience this old tech as if it were brand new today. Thanks for all that you do, LGR.

  • @J.J.Spencer
    @J.J.Spencer ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'd like to once again shout out Jeff for letting all of this be opened and aired for posterity like this. Digital historians of the future will thank you.

  • @brianmoore493
    @brianmoore493 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mom worked for computerland in the 80s, if only she saved some stuff, I remember seeing blue IBM boxes in crates wrapped in plastic. They were expensive then, and nothing has changed. Thanks for the upload. I also, was born in 87. The narrator is giving me Casey casum vibes.

  • @Spidernick88
    @Spidernick88 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just wanted to say thanks for your videos. It takes me back to when I was a kid and wanted to get into computers, but it just wasn't in the cards. It's cool to see all the old tech.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My pleasure, I hope you continue to enjoy!

  • @FreihEitner
    @FreihEitner ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In 1987 that would have absolutely floored me. You wouldn't record an album with that sound, but for a PC at that time it would have been stunning to hear.

    • @camulodunon
      @camulodunon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean, many of its sounds are quite usable in an album, especially if you pair them with some outboard effects.

  • @ThePruts0r
    @ThePruts0r ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome card!
    I started making music in 1990 on a Atari 1040ST!
    Later on, 1992 I purchased an IBM PS1, 386SX with a 387 co-processor and a stunning 8MB of RAM! I also purchased a MPU-IPC card. This is a MPU-401 with the same MIDI adapter as this IBM card. Hooked up my Korg M1 and Roland D10 synthesizers and I was good to go!
    Awesome time, awesome era!

  • @NecroticFleshrot
    @NecroticFleshrot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @3:42 When Clint said, "O.P.P.", every single one of us sang, in our heads, "Yeah, you know me!"

  • @Yanderexoxx
    @Yanderexoxx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m absolutely addicted to this channel now. It’s so satisfying seeing you review old tech.

    • @glitchedoom
      @glitchedoom ปีที่แล้ว

      It's nice having about 15 years of backlog to marathon, isn't it?

  • @MontegaB
    @MontegaB ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Amazing. These are the videos I love the most. Vintage PC experiences that almost no one had at the time. Great video, and props to Jeff for letting you defile that card lol

  • @Amber_Oakheart
    @Amber_Oakheart ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That card looked gorgeous. The pcb is so prestine it almost looks like a jewel.
    I personally liked the sound of the IBM card over the AdLib. :D

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely more depth, as you would expect from twice the number of FM operators.

  • @JosepsGSX
    @JosepsGSX ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LGR viewer Jeff, thanks man for sharing this gem. Awesome card and truly awesome owner.

  • @erichkohl9317
    @erichkohl9317 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice of you to show the FB-01; I happen to own one too. The fact that it has technical similarities to a sound card that goes for that much money on the used market caught me by surprise.

  • @thezood
    @thezood ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think this card sounds awesome, such a warm and rich sound! Much better than the plastic sound of adlib.

  • @GYTCommnts
    @GYTCommnts ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm a big fan and user of soundcards. So, this is one of my favorites episodes of LGR! Top quality! Awesome! Thanks! 🍻

  • @thelastdruidofscotland
    @thelastdruidofscotland ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My School had a fully fledged "studio" in 1989, as this was Scotland, our pc's for this place were all IBM's, donated to the school directly from the Greenoch IBM factory, at that time, those were the only machines I knew off that had a dedicated sound card, and could record to a hard disk, it took another decade before this was even considered normal, so, in that sense, what IBM offered back then was truly groundbreaking.

  • @Quazee137
    @Quazee137 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for bring back memories. Jerome Bixby was working on His "The Man From Earth" and the score. He used the IBM Music Feature Card and a wall of keyboards and synthesizers.
    He was asked to review MusicPrinter Plus by Temporal Acuity Products, Inc.
    He had me do some parts while he did others. It was a very fun time. It came out in Electronic Musician Dec 1990. I miss my friend. I have the MFC and it parts along with the disk for MusicPrinter Plus.

  • @RitzLazyArtist
    @RitzLazyArtist ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is one of the earliest consumer uses of the FM synth before the AdLib and the Sega Genesis came out.

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back in 1985 I bought a Toshiba HX-MU900 FM sound cartridge and matching keyboard when they were being sold off cheap. With animated instruments (and unfortunately no MIDI support) it was definitely a consumer product, (far more than this IBM card) possibly a bit ahead of its time at the original price. A demo (not mine) th-cam.com/video/vvXB7krWf9M/w-d-xo.html

  • @WalrusFPGA
    @WalrusFPGA ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was an awesome watch/listen! The PC Music Feature is surprisingly very cool! I had only heard of it in those sierra configuration menus and always wondered what it sounded like. When you started with the Space Quest III intro it sounded pretty bad but the later part was better than the adlib! Very cool. I also appreciate the 4k EGA monitor footage! I've been looking this week specifically for pics/footage like this to compare some of my MiSTer filter experiments against. Thanks LGR!

  • @bamboebahr2470
    @bamboebahr2470 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love these sound card reviews. It's cool to hear the differences between the special cards and whatever was the generic option of the time. I'm still hoping to find a roland MT-32 here on the European mainland one day 😁

  • @kirboaccordion4545
    @kirboaccordion4545 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Perfect video to watch on the weekend. Love your videos!

  • @stevewithab2367
    @stevewithab2367 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The interface of Playrec is just awesome to look at, especially on that monitor. The aesthetics are just something else.

  • @bipedal_earth_roamer
    @bipedal_earth_roamer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The blues demo track is really neat because you can hear the velocity so well on the standup bass instrument. Very cool.

  • @DesertRainReads
    @DesertRainReads ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An interesting product, can't believe how good it sounds for something this old. Amazing that even back then PCs were capable of being able to compose music with them. I absolutely enjoy seeing you fiddle around with old tech, you gain a true appreciation for it when you see it in action and see an older PC maxed out and pushed to its limits. Keep doing this, I thoroughly enjoy your content.

  • @JohnVance
    @JohnVance ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When you pulled it from the ESD bag, I felt and smelled that so hard

  • @oldschooldude8370
    @oldschooldude8370 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely love the late 80s tech. I was cutting my teeth in 91 so alot of this old hardware I am familiar with but never experienced it in a platform at the time. Excellent content as always.

  • @Vermilicious
    @Vermilicious ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Apart from a lot of other vintage computer parts, this one certainly seemed very enjoyable. It sounded great.

  • @rpavlik1
    @rpavlik1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, that is really warm and mellow sounding. Sounds lovely.

  • @WorldFamousDJFish
    @WorldFamousDJFish ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clint, your voice is so soothing. I could listen to you talk for hours.

  • @AlexCBrandon
    @AlexCBrandon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't even think I heard of this. Or maybe I forgot about it. Such a great deep dive on these cards man. Keep 'em coming!

  • @sinisterthoughts2896
    @sinisterthoughts2896 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That did sound great. Back in its period that would sound extraordinary.

  • @robertgijsen
    @robertgijsen ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, I've always been intrigued by this card, since it's so rare. Finally a proper review! Thanks a million :-)
    I'd love to hear more gameplay footage though, especially compared to Adlib.

  • @fuzzix
    @fuzzix ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I hadn't seen that Mindscape Music Board before. Dual AYs, not bad! Looks like they were configured for mono only - would have been nice to have the option of a chip per-channel 😁
    This is a beatiful kit - lovely condition, cheers for sharing! That "Rock" demo song had me tickled.

  • @phoenixsixxrising
    @phoenixsixxrising ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amamzing feature of The Feature, Clint! Now this episode just needs to have an OST release since the music today was so awesome!

  • @xenomorph9205
    @xenomorph9205 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi lgr first time commenting long time watcher ,just wanted to say thanks for all your videos,they help me relax when i need to be relaxed,thank you and keep up the good work,peace :)

    • @LGR
      @LGR  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Awesome, I’m glad to hear they’ve been a positive thing :)

  • @AaronOfMpls
    @AaronOfMpls ปีที่แล้ว

    Always cool when you explore old hardware like this! I remember at least seeing Tandy sound and the Roland MT-32 listed in game setup menus, but never this IBM card.
    Thanks for showing this to us -- and thanks to Jeff for loaning it to you! 😎

  • @D6isD6
    @D6isD6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The sight of a fresh, dust-free green PCB will never cease to bring me joy.

  • @marccaselle8108
    @marccaselle8108 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I never knew this sound card existed. My first computer was a Packard bell legend something. I remember it had a sound blaster 16 card inside.
    I had loads of fun playing many computer games and enjoy the FM music I would hear from games at the time.
    Biomenace and megarace had good music tracks. I cannot forget the awesome soundtrack to star wars tie fighter.

  • @boarMcberry
    @boarMcberry ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is amazing, takes me back to me early youth days when visiting local PC stores, had one of em playing midi demo on that IBM MIDI card, which was years before having my own sound blaster card that's sadly didn't have that old demo till decades later upon random finds on youtube. :D

  • @nimrodlevy
    @nimrodlevy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for jeff that let you document this card and thank you for doing it. 🙏

  • @astrix_mvp
    @astrix_mvp ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd love seeing you play through old sierra titles 😇 I'm not good at solving these games myself but they bring back fond memories of my first experiences with computer games. I especially remember the Kings Quest series, Police Quest 1 and 2 and a few of the Space Quest games. And of course Larry Laffer. The first one in the series i remember best.

  • @cfjruth
    @cfjruth ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Many of us dream of one day having a cool enough, rare enough piece of technology to have LGR review it. What a masterpiece!

  • @rogero8443
    @rogero8443 ปีที่แล้ว

    man I am SO glad I put on headphones for this vid. Normally I put youtube on through an macbook air speaker. Some of the sample music was so fun! Even the background stuff you had on. Thanks much.

  • @sjdpfisvrj
    @sjdpfisvrj ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not to compare TH-camrs, but it is a joy to see with what care you handle this unique historical relic.

  • @marcel1463
    @marcel1463 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am happy that todays sound cards are much cheaper. Great LGR video like always. Your channel is very informative and entertaining at the same time.

  • @silentios7336
    @silentios7336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That card was king back in my days, i had two of them in my system back then. And worked perfectly with FT and my Yamaha keyboard. Could throw anything at it and it would work.

  • @IntelliPocalypse
    @IntelliPocalypse ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The condition is unheard of. So immaculate. Sealed in box all these years. Quite the time capsule

  • @useitwice
    @useitwice ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thumbnail is awesome, makes it looks like a forest against a blue sky

  • @epluribusunum6622
    @epluribusunum6622 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I busted out my tube DAC to listen to this and boy was I rewarded! That cannon in D is a masterpiece. That card is worth it. *Stares hard at Tandy 1000* I play colonels bequest all the time!

  • @thejra-gon6991
    @thejra-gon6991 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for giving love to the *mostly* forgotten FB01. I use one for music production, i wanted something that sounded like the sega genisis and pcs of the time, sure doesn't disappoint ❤

  • @Dinnye01
    @Dinnye01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Jeff! Without you, I would never have known about this card.

  • @17659817265781465781
    @17659817265781465781 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that Yamaha program is SO visually pleasing omg

  • @Kitteh.B
    @Kitteh.B ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I LOVE the gradient color shift on the PCB, like pearlescent greens, it's glorious!

  • @Jiggeer86
    @Jiggeer86 ปีที่แล้ว

    Youre Videos are very interesting, and sometimes i watch it because of your calming voice

  • @bevorules77
    @bevorules77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought I knew all about vintage 80's IBM stuff, but once again LGR shows me something "new" and cool!

  • @silvenshadow
    @silvenshadow ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't put my finger on it but this is one of the most LGR videos ever. Love it. Thank you for taking me on this crazy journey

  • @subynut
    @subynut ปีที่แล้ว

    What a cool piece of history! You're right, it has a very nice sound to it. Wouldn't mind listening to some of my old MIDI files I have laying around on that synth. Very cool!

  • @ClassicGameSessions
    @ClassicGameSessions ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Wow, that's pricey then and now but it was revolutionary for the PC at the time!

  • @Dukefazon
    @Dukefazon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a soft spot for sound card for some reason. When my brother bought the first PC in the house it didn't even had a floppy drive, let alone CDrom or sound card, because he was happy he could get the base machine first. It wasn't long before he could get a floppy drive a CDrom and a souond card but it felt like an eternity not having sound. Today I'm buying old sound cards left and right when I see them on my local flea market.

  • @nthgth
    @nthgth ปีที่แล้ว

    What an interesting piece! Especially that composing software; I had no idea what auch software looked like back in the day.
    Love me some Yamaha FM synthesis any day.

  • @iixorb
    @iixorb ปีที่แล้ว

    @15:08 Absolutely; I’m watching this on my iPhone 12 and even on a phone, the FM sounded warmer than I’m used to (a long time owner of way too many FM / DX synths).

  • @MatthewBenson321
    @MatthewBenson321 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The early/mid 80's seems like a truly EPIC time in computing. The stories I've heard from people who were in programming-type jobs at the time only reinforces it.

    • @PopeCromwell
      @PopeCromwell ปีที่แล้ว

      seems a lot more exciting than web-anything

    • @MrJest2
      @MrJest2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was, largely because hardware was iterating faster than we could keep up with it. Things have slowed down a LOT these days.

  • @SirGriefALot
    @SirGriefALot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sound cards were so weird I still can't believe technology got built out in that way. 🤯
    Just the idea that a piece of hardware could drastically change the music and sound effects in your games is crazy.

  • @Soulintent95
    @Soulintent95 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This vid captures what i love about lgr. Old computer stuff on full display. He actuslly owns the old stuff, installs it on old computers, and plays it on said old computers. Computers are so boring nowadays!

  • @MaximilienNoal
    @MaximilienNoal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those CRTs look SHARP, oh my god ! Lovely !

  • @Menleah
    @Menleah ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah jeez this was a great one, Clint. I'm sitting here getting very nostalgic about those old Sierra games and their wonderful soundtracks. :-)

  • @Meisje_and_Me
    @Meisje_and_Me ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice one.👍👍🙂
    But really starting to mis the "Thrifts"
    😁😁😁

  • @d_vibe-swe
    @d_vibe-swe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's something special with the OPL2 chip that I really love. It's not because of nostalgia, because I was (am) an Amiga guy back then (now), but because the really cold and hard sound one can get out of it.

  • @sgtsquank
    @sgtsquank ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That Latin sample song took me somewhere. How sweet it is.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably my favorite of all the songs I played :)

  • @Arti9m
    @Arti9m ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing this card does much better than Adlib is DRUMS! I mean, you can hear the drums, and they sound like drums! 😄

  • @tomenza
    @tomenza ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is some great composition and lighting in this video

    • @LGR
      @LGR  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @andersmmvfc.8376
    @andersmmvfc.8376 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lgr and MIDI As always Brilliant content!

  • @zickykane5206
    @zickykane5206 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing that such an old piece of tech would be so fascinating. Truly stellar. And seeing one in such condition! amazing!

  • @BrassicGamer
    @BrassicGamer ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Clint - you made my friday!

  • @niksgarage
    @niksgarage ปีที่แล้ว

    I was at the big IBM launch event in Miami in April 1987, majoring on the launch of the PS/2 family and OS/2, where Michael Iceberg, incredible showman and keyboardist demonstrated the IBM Music Feature running on a plain old AT bus computer. Being from the UK, I hadn't heard of him - though I did recognise the Electric Parade when he played it! He wore a white lounge suit with long tails, very flamboyant. I eventually managed to snag a couple of the cards for myself with a bit of internal bartering in IBM Boca. Good times.

    • @niksgarage
      @niksgarage ปีที่แล้ว

      By the way - I had to Google it, but the Electric Parade music is apparently called the Baroque Showdown, and was written by one of my favourite late Synth people, Jean Jacques Perrey.

  • @12opsynths
    @12opsynths ปีที่แล้ว

    Great ep! I had one of these and made many sequences with playrec. Unfortunately my parents donated all the old stuff except for the midi breakout box and even that got $75 on ebay. As you've said, just get the fb01!

  • @mirage809
    @mirage809 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A card from the dawn of the golden age of sound cards, back when they were an actual product instead of a scam. It sounds amazing too! There's just something special about Yamaha's FM synth chips. That stuff just sounds right. It's also a prime case of IBM consumer hardware. Expensive as all hell, but damn if it ain't powerful stuff.
    Also, was that a Korg Minilogue that I caught a glimpse of there? Those things are sexy synths.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That it was. It’s part of my main synth setup: th-cam.com/video/UgNqzbcr2Pw/w-d-xo.html

    • @hicknopunk
      @hicknopunk ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Audigy cards are not a scam. I use broadcast headphones which can handle a few watts and if I use an internal sound chip you get noise, hiss when driving it at 100% output (which is quiet), the built-in brick wall makes it all but impossible to make the pre-amp distort, multiple inputs, etc. My boxed RX was $60. 60 bucks for good audio? Sign me up.
      Just like you would never use the built in "video card" for anything but a secondary display or compute, you should buy a bargain Audigy if you plan to game, watch TH-cam or have any sound at all. I would rather have no sound than bad sound.

    • @tomyyoung2624
      @tomyyoung2624 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hicknopunk Anser is queston YES!

    • @tsm688
      @tsm688 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hicknopunk What's the point in a sound card when USB has more than 10x the needed bandwidth?

    • @jr2904
      @jr2904 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@tsm688 probably an audiophile

  • @mikem.7155
    @mikem.7155 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing demonstration of the IMF, Clint! Back in 1987, I was lucky to have two of these (dad worked for IBM, apparently had an employer's discount); I had a PC XT with a 20MB hard drive, and the IMFs were in one of those 5160 expansion units with the huge system interconnect cable. That was one of my earliest setups for composing and playing music.
    I could beat myself up for getting rid of these, and I have no idea where they went. The only thing left I can find of them is one of the MIDI breakout boxes. Sigh.

    • @marcusdamberger
      @marcusdamberger ปีที่แล้ว

      Well someone's missing a Midi breakout box for one of these, probably goes for good $$ to complete someone's setup 😄

  • @andersjohanlundmark
    @andersjohanlundmark ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to watch, as this was my first soundcard. I thought lost, but a few years ago it was found at my parents house. Now installed in my 5170, but since I use that computer for running the demos an a game I wrote parts of (pinball fantasies) way back (that does not have MFC support) I rarely use the MFC.

  • @SupaCozyGaming
    @SupaCozyGaming ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Does anyone else experience ASMR from LGR's voice or just me? I'm so relaxed

  • @markwoll
    @markwoll ปีที่แล้ว

    I had two of these in my PC back in the 80's. That and a Yamaha midi controller keyboard and a pair of Yamaha powered speakers ( still have those and they still work too ).

  • @JamsterJules
    @JamsterJules ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video on many levels. Loved it.