The song Disintegration is just the perfect title track for me. The whole album expresses such an endogenous existential crisis and it’s so heavy. It’s a kind of disintegration of the self. Disintegration (the song) is like a whole story and the lyrics are so deep and poetic. It breaks my heart and it’s beautiful for me.
Personally, I connect with "Disintegration" on an emotional level musically and lyrically. If you don't connect with it that way, I can see how you might not think much of it. The way he sings gets more and more desperate as the song goes on. It used to make me cry every time I listened.
My introduction to The Cure (I've heard songs of them before on the radio though back in the mid-80s when I was a kid, like Boys don't Cry) WAS Disintegration, and I loved it. I dove head-first into their discography back then.
Disintegration was my introduction to The Cure. Bought it New Year's 1990 and pretty much fell in love with the group thereafter. Pornography and The Head On The Door are the two I've played the most, in recent years. Totally different vibes.
I have to listen to more of this band. I'll throw in my vote for 'Disintegration' being my favorite song of theirs I have heard thus far. Great atmosphere, very hypnotic, and just the little alterations to some of the dynamics and layers as it progresses alongside the raw emotion - just evokes a special feeling. It'd make for the worst (best) breakup song.
Distentegration transcends genre... one of the greatest albums ever... I've played this for rockers metal heads ... they just can't believe this is that band The Cure... the simplicity and overwhelming emotion... poetic basslines.... mostly instrumental with uncomfortably honest lyrics splashed in.... Jimmy Page has referenced Lullaby as perfect...
I’d like to see your take on The Glove “Blue Sunshine”. That is the album that made me realize (decades later) how psychedelic the Cure and The Banshees were.
Untitled IS underrated (and criminally so), best closing track, such a delicate beauty. Disintegration (the track) very properly rated as an emotional peak of the album, so fucking good, i guess if you search for some melodic intricacy you won't find it there, but if you want visceral spiralling into out-of-breath self loathing and not so consoling take on a relationship coming to a devastating end, that one is for you
A girl made me a cassette tape with a variety of songs she wanted to share with me. She sent me Friday I'm In Love and Close to Me and I dug them both. Not long after I bought their then newest album Bloodflowers and fortunately it grew on me. A few years later lol my soon to be childrens mother introduced me their Standing On the Beach album. Loved it. In LA a few years after that, I bought both Faith and Seventeen Seconds at a music store completely on a whim not having heard any of the tracks. Loved those albums to pieces. I remember reading the Vampire Lestat with them both playing in the background on repeat. 😂
Man I'm so glad that u like it This is not an album to like in a first time hearing. You must listen it for a hounded of times to fully understand the expression and feelings of different emotions
Lyrically, as a body of work, Disintigration is his best work. He nailed it poetically. I agree with most of your thoughts regarding the vibe of each album.
Other people in the band wrote tracks on Disintegration. It wasn't all creations from Robert. Simon provided the demos for The Same Deep Water as You and Lovesong. Homesick actually started from a demo by Lol.
I wouldn't recommend ever entering the world of The Cure for Disintegration either, it's quite dense, monothematic, sad, intense. It only shows one face. It's best to start with something more pop and varied like The Head on the Door. In my case, I went in with "Kiss me..." and "Wish."
This album so awesome. After 35 years, My least favorite songs on this album have become my favorite. I guess because its like I keep coming back to this album and diacovering new things. One of rhe ultimate things you can do is discover new thindg about music you love. So they say. And u do that with this album. And i ahve done this over the years with this album.in songs Top 3 songs now 1. Same deep water as you 2. Closedown 3. Fascination street And yes, Untitled is very underated.
I love Suede and "Dog Man Star" is my favorite, but if anyone wants to meet the band it would be the last album I would recommend, too dramatic, intense, operatic. I would say: listen to "Coming Up", the debut or even the wonderful collection of B-sides, but don't start with something as lofty as Dog Man Star. It's the same with The Cure. You understand that mature album better when you know the path and how they got there. Before making complex equations, you must first learn how to add and subtract. Almost no one enters The Cure for Funeral Party or Prayers for the Rain, you start with Friday I'm in Love or Boys Don't Cry.
@@lauce3998 I started with Why Can't I Be You and the 1986 12" remix of Boys Don't Cry and went from there to the Kiss Me album which was the most recent at the time. Then worked my way all around the discography. Then got Disintegration upon release and was mesmerized. I'm the guy who would happily listen to Carnage Visors rather than rewind his Faith tape.
I find It kinda funny that you fell compelled to apologize (in a way) for not having enjoyed It first time around. We all have a personal taste and we must earn It. It's alright not liking them. Still you've finally come around and now enjoys It, which is fine too. I agree with you the tittle track is overrated and "Untitled" is one of the best, if not the best track. I think you're wrong about "Picture of You", though. It's very hypnotic and textured, mainly because of the Six string bass paying the main melody, which was unusual at that time, specially played through the effects pedals they use It. Moreover, the melody is very strong and the lyrics are very romantic, in the original sense of the word, which is tragic.
To be honest, it’s a small amount of feeling like I need to be clear with older viewers who struggle to navigate TH-cam. I want them to have a ready-made “follow up with context” available after them seeing me struggle with one of their favorite albums.
@@AlexHaitz hey hey hey, I don't struggle to use youtube, haha. I do appreciate hearing views after someone sits with an album for a while. Frequently their views change beyond an initial snap reaction, and I'm always curious to see if they have even listened to it in the meantime. I DO get grouchy, though.
@@AlexHaitz my post, 3 years ago on the OG follow up, not as grumpy as I thought. I literally asked for this. "I don't think you need to be more gothic, nor have lived in England, nor have lived in 1989. I just think you need to live with this album longer before coming back to it. That's all. I've had it in my heart for 30 plus years. And even then, over time, it took forever for Pictures of You to finally, in the last 4 or so years of my life, become perhaps my favorite song of all time. The emotion is in there. And the elation when it changed keys is palpable. It fills me with joy. But yes, by all means, KMKMKM is the next album you should do. It is such a variety that you would enjoy it. I know this reply is way late but I'm late to your channel, hopefully you see this reply and are not too discouraged by the negative ones."
@@AlexHaitz You might as well go ahead and do the self titled and 13th Dream at some point too, just to get the whole experience before the new album drops, s you can review it with a full context. Maybe do the Glove too, and Hyena from the Banshees.
Disintegration always sounds too pop for me. The only 2 songs I really liked is self titled disintegration and fascination street, these songs have pretty driving bass lines. The rest of the album sound like background music to me, I just relax and can't concentrate on listening. Always been a fan of Seventeen Seconds and Faith. Post 2000's stuff also not bad, nice place to start, not too old fashioned and sounds good
There are pop songs sure, but FFS are you calling Prayers for Rain and Same Deep Water as You POP? Closedown? Last Dance? The are nowhere near Lovesong or Lullaby. And even Pictures of You isn't a true pop song. Much less Plainsong, that is a thing of dark beauty and glory. This entire album is a child of Faith and Pornography.
@@eboethrasher maybe it's not pop compared to taylor swift, but to me it's pop compared to those albums that i named, isn't it ? This is not about good or bad, i was just talking about my sympathy for the dark gloomy period of the band. I'm from eastern europe, so this is self explanatory )
Even though It's very iconic album, I find Wish better. Guitarist Porl Thompson and drummer Boris Williams were the secret weapons in both albums. Shortly after Wish came out, they've also release a live register on video called Show, in vhs and laser disc, so It was awesome be able to watch them play the new material, plus desintegration and others live. I don't think Pornography has aged very well, while some songs off Faith and 17 seconds are still ahead of our time, in my opinion, specially some bsides from that period and mid 80s. Their later output is rather uneven, but they're still capable of writing a song on the same level of their best stuff, even if it's just a couple per album. Having said that, I didn't like anything I heard off their new unreleased album. As far as I'm concerned the band has ended in 2008.
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The song Disintegration is just the perfect title track for me. The whole album expresses such an endogenous existential crisis and it’s so heavy. It’s a kind of disintegration of the self. Disintegration (the song) is like a whole story and the lyrics are so deep and poetic. It breaks my heart and it’s beautiful for me.
It’s such a propulsive, endless rollercoaster type of song with that steady beat that just draws you in and has all the hallmarks of their sound
Remember when Bob thought it was all over, because he turned 30??!!😆
Personally, I connect with "Disintegration" on an emotional level musically and lyrically. If you don't connect with it that way, I can see how you might not think much of it. The way he sings gets more and more desperate as the song goes on. It used to make me cry every time I listened.
My introduction to The Cure (I've heard songs of them before on the radio though back in the mid-80s when I was a kid, like Boys don't Cry) WAS Disintegration, and I loved it. I dove head-first into their discography back then.
Disintegration was my introduction to The Cure. Bought it New Year's 1990 and pretty much fell in love with the group thereafter. Pornography and The Head On The Door are the two I've played the most, in recent years. Totally different vibes.
Plainsong is a masterpiece lol
I have to listen to more of this band. I'll throw in my vote for 'Disintegration' being my favorite song of theirs I have heard thus far. Great atmosphere, very hypnotic, and just the little alterations to some of the dynamics and layers as it progresses alongside the raw emotion - just evokes a special feeling. It'd make for the worst (best) breakup song.
have you listened to ..same deep water as you? Masterpiece!!
Distentegration transcends genre... one of the greatest albums ever... I've played this for rockers metal heads ... they just can't believe this is that band The Cure... the simplicity and overwhelming emotion... poetic basslines.... mostly instrumental with uncomfortably honest lyrics splashed in.... Jimmy Page has referenced Lullaby as perfect...
Glad to see you finally came around on this one Alex :)
I’d like to see your take on The Glove “Blue Sunshine”. That is the album that made me realize (decades later) how psychedelic the Cure and The Banshees were.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL I was gonna say AGREED and then I saw who it was! DONNA! How ARE YOU? It's... Gary.
Untitled IS underrated (and criminally so), best closing track, such a delicate beauty. Disintegration (the track) very properly rated as an emotional peak of the album, so fucking good, i guess if you search for some melodic intricacy you won't find it there, but if you want visceral spiralling into out-of-breath self loathing and not so consoling take on a relationship coming to a devastating end, that one is for you
Faith is a better closing track, even better if you consider how good it is live. Sinking is really good too.
I stand by what I wrote :)
Very hard to describe what makes the title track so incredible. One of those things that just clicks out of nowhere.
A girl made me a cassette tape with a variety of songs she wanted to share with me. She sent me Friday I'm In Love and Close to Me and I dug them both. Not long after I bought their then newest album Bloodflowers and fortunately it grew on me. A few years later lol my soon to be childrens mother introduced me their Standing On the Beach album. Loved it.
In LA a few years after that, I bought both Faith and Seventeen Seconds at a music store completely on a whim not having heard any of the tracks. Loved those albums to pieces. I remember reading the Vampire Lestat with them both playing in the background on repeat. 😂
Man I'm so glad that u like it This is not an album to like in a first time hearing. You must listen it for a hounded of times to fully understand the expression and feelings of different emotions
Lyrically, as a body of work, Disintigration is his best work. He nailed it poetically. I agree with most of your thoughts regarding the vibe of each album.
Other people in the band wrote tracks on Disintegration. It wasn't all creations from Robert. Simon provided the demos for The Same Deep Water as You and Lovesong. Homesick actually started from a demo by Lol.
Awesome breakdown! I think there isn't a good entry point if you listened to the cure because they've done many genres at a high level
I wouldn't recommend ever entering the world of The Cure for Disintegration either, it's quite dense, monothematic, sad, intense. It only shows one face. It's best to start with something more pop and varied like The Head on the Door. In my case, I went in with "Kiss me..." and "Wish."
This album so awesome. After 35 years, My least favorite songs on this album have become my favorite. I guess because its like I keep coming back to this album and diacovering new things. One of rhe ultimate things you can do is discover new thindg about music you love. So they say. And u do that with this album. And i ahve done this over the years with this album.in songs
Top 3 songs now
1. Same deep water as you
2. Closedown
3. Fascination street
And yes, Untitled is very underated.
Fascination street - one of the greatest rock basslines of all time
I don't agree this is the first cure album I really listened to and I found it fantastic. This is a really good introduction to The Cure ...
Fair enough! I needed more context and lead up for it to click better.
@@AlexHaitz just listen to this disintegration live version ::
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I love Suede and "Dog Man Star" is my favorite, but if anyone wants to meet the band it would be the last album I would recommend, too dramatic, intense, operatic. I would say: listen to "Coming Up", the debut or even the wonderful collection of B-sides, but don't start with something as lofty as Dog Man Star. It's the same with The Cure. You understand that mature album better when you know the path and how they got there. Before making complex equations, you must first learn how to add and subtract. Almost no one enters The Cure for Funeral Party or Prayers for the Rain, you start with Friday I'm in Love or Boys Don't Cry.
@@lauce3998 Well after reading you I just realized I'm almost noone. 😎
@@lauce3998 I started with Why Can't I Be You and the 1986 12" remix of Boys Don't Cry and went from there to the Kiss Me album which was the most recent at the time. Then worked my way all around the discography. Then got Disintegration upon release and was mesmerized. I'm the guy who would happily listen to Carnage Visors rather than rewind his Faith tape.
My go to's off this album are: Last Dance. Prayers for Rain. Homesick. Untitled. Plainsong.
I find It kinda funny that you fell compelled to apologize (in a way) for not having enjoyed It first time around. We all have a personal taste and we must earn It. It's alright not liking them. Still you've finally come around and now enjoys It, which is fine too. I agree with you the tittle track is overrated and "Untitled" is one of the best, if not the best track. I think you're wrong about "Picture of You", though. It's very hypnotic and textured, mainly because of the Six string bass paying the main melody, which was unusual at that time, specially played through the effects pedals they use It. Moreover, the melody is very strong and the lyrics are very romantic, in the original sense of the word, which is tragic.
To be honest, it’s a small amount of feeling like I need to be clear with older viewers who struggle to navigate TH-cam. I want them to have a ready-made “follow up with context” available after them seeing me struggle with one of their favorite albums.
@@AlexHaitz We old-timers appreciate It, Alex. 👴👍
@@AlexHaitz hey hey hey, I don't struggle to use youtube, haha. I do appreciate hearing views after someone sits with an album for a while. Frequently their views change beyond an initial snap reaction, and I'm always curious to see if they have even listened to it in the meantime. I DO get grouchy, though.
@@AlexHaitz my post, 3 years ago on the OG follow up, not as grumpy as I thought. I literally asked for this. "I don't think you need to be more gothic, nor have lived in England, nor have lived in 1989. I just think you need to live with this album longer before coming back to it. That's all. I've had it in my heart for 30 plus years. And even then, over time, it took forever for Pictures of You to finally, in the last 4 or so years of my life, become perhaps my favorite song of all time. The emotion is in there. And the elation when it changed keys is palpable. It fills me with joy. But yes, by all means, KMKMKM is the next album you should do. It is such a variety that you would enjoy it. I know this reply is way late but I'm late to your channel, hopefully you see this reply and are not too discouraged by the negative ones."
Did you get around to hearing all their albums?
Not yet! Want to add The Top and Bloodflowers to my schedule at some point.
@@AlexHaitz You might as well go ahead and do the self titled and 13th Dream at some point too, just to get the whole experience before the new album drops, s you can review it with a full context. Maybe do the Glove too, and Hyena from the Banshees.
Alex did you ever react to Peter Hook's " Monaco"?
Wait. You did. NM...Merry Xmas.
I think you're overthinking it lol Desintegration was my introduction to them and is why I'm such a big fan
Disintegration always sounds too pop for me. The only 2 songs I really liked is self titled disintegration and fascination street, these songs have pretty driving bass lines. The rest of the album sound like background music to me, I just relax and can't concentrate on listening. Always been a fan of Seventeen Seconds and Faith. Post 2000's stuff also not bad, nice place to start, not too old fashioned and sounds good
There are pop songs sure, but FFS are you calling Prayers for Rain and Same Deep Water as You POP? Closedown? Last Dance? The are nowhere near Lovesong or Lullaby. And even Pictures of You isn't a true pop song. Much less Plainsong, that is a thing of dark beauty and glory. This entire album is a child of Faith and Pornography.
@@eboethrasher maybe it's not pop compared to taylor swift, but to me it's pop compared to those albums that i named, isn't it ? This is not about good or bad, i was just talking about my sympathy for the dark gloomy period of the band. I'm from eastern europe, so this is self explanatory )
it was my entrypoint and it worked lol
Even though It's very iconic album, I find Wish better. Guitarist Porl Thompson and drummer Boris Williams were the secret weapons in both albums. Shortly after Wish came out, they've also release a live register on video called Show, in vhs and laser disc, so It was awesome be able to watch them play the new material, plus desintegration and others live. I don't think Pornography has aged very well, while some songs off Faith and 17 seconds are still ahead of our time, in my opinion, specially some bsides from that period and mid 80s. Their later output is rather uneven, but they're still capable of writing a song on the same level of their best stuff, even if it's just a couple per album. Having said that, I didn't like anything I heard off their new unreleased album. As far as I'm concerned the band has ended in 2008.
Porl and Boris wrote demos together frequently. They did so on Kiss Me as well.
Disintegration is too long in my opinion
the album, or song? The entire album is about long songs. Long songs require patience. I love a long song, it rewards you.