The day will come eventually in the future when people realize we are turning more and more dummy and brainless because of the speedy-handy-easy going computer oriented life. In this regard, Gunter Grass is a prophet.
Verstand mag er ja haben, nur eben sehr wenig Ahnung. Wie will er das Internet oder was auch immer kritisieren, wenn er es ganz öffensichtlich kaum kennt? Ich kann ihn hier nicht übermäßig ernstnehmen.
Ronny Kethers Ich nutze das Internet auch, Handy habe ich gerade erst wieder auf Nokia ohne Internet umgetauscht. es ist einfach idiotisch wenn man Dinge nutzt (App usw.) ohne vorher ein Bedürfnis zu haben. Es ist echt gefährlich wie Begrifflichkeiten wie Freundschaft die eigentlichen Assoziationen verlieren. Es gibt Menchen die denken sie haben 120 Freunde und wenn man sie trifft sind sie so innerlich zerwühlt und nie in der Situation, da sie immer auf etwas warten oder auf Dauerempfang sind. Man muss da sehr ernsthaft nachdenken, dann versteht man das auch. Es geht nicht um die Abschaffung, es geht um die bewusste Nutzung und auf Verzicht.
***** never too late to give it up and walk away, social media is a chain to never ending self judgement and self doubt, and the sad thing is everyones addicted and becoming effected by it, some more than others but i can see mental health issues rising worldwide the further it continues, which is very unnecessary if you ask me! facebook and social media is like have a double life or split personality, when you leave facebook you leave behind all the stress, worry, anxiety and judgments behind leaving you to go back to just focusing on whats in front of you in realtime, you will become a calmer and happier person!
***** lol i was waiting for that, yes well i regard youtube differently to social media, i know its on the same level but there are differences with you tube, sure too much youtube isnt healthy either, but with youtube you can be anonymous etc so its world social not like with facebook etc where your under pressure from viewing eyes of people you know, you dont have to make comments on you tube but facebook puts pressure on you to say something or post pics etc,and youtube in my opinion give you the freedom to view interesting videos/film/music its more about stuff other than personal identity, you dont have to keep up with the joneses on youtube, and you can also speak your mind freely without thinking a family member or aunty or ex is judging your comments etc, ive given up everything except YT , maybe ill try someday but for now i find youtube a handy and useful tool , facebook was just a stress creator!
Facebook? Waste of time. Und das sag ich als Deutscher und Stimme total mit Günthers Meinung überein^^ In Bücher steckt erheblich mehr Leben als auf einer Internetseite
Not really, in Romania we use Facebook to mobilise protests and spread information that the media does not. We took down two governments and stopped the largest mining project in Europe through Facebook (Google "rosia montana"). It ain't shit and people do use it for important things.
Das ist falsch. Literatur als Arbeitsvorgang lässt sich sehr wohl beschleunigen. Erste Vorreiter waren Balzac und Strindberg. Brecht dachte sein ganzes Leben lang über die Möglichkeiten der Beschleunigung literarischer Prozesse nach, in Praxis versuchte er dies mit einem ganzen Mitarbeiterstab zu erreichen.
...und warum ist die Aussage falsch? Du Widersprichst dir selbst... hast gemerkt? Seine Aussage ist Fakt und es war keine Meinung die er mit dem Satz geäußert hat. Wer literarische Arbeitsvorgänge beschleunigt, tut das auf kosten der Qualität"Punkt".
A wise man once said, Nothing.... let him learn what this new age has brought on us and how we may utilize it to have much more connections and more friends than he his feeble typewriter age mind can handle... poor geriatric
Karim Zidan So you see it just takes an old typewriter to get the Nobel Prize. Try it ! Hope you will not be taken to a mental hospital some day with a handful of mobiles and whatever phones.
Poor geriatric? This man has authored some literary masterpieces (you know, things called 'books', with 'pages' and words printed on them, stuff like that). He is a Nobel Laureate. Who the hell are you with all your thousands of virtual friends?
Hey you guys he's just a troll trying to wind us up. Why is "old school" used with a negative connotation anyway? Is Galileo Galilei old school? Good on him if he is, by the way Dog Years rocks, not for the faint of heart mind you and that's the way I like it aha aha…….
We watch this interview on "youtube". And write our comments by our shitty smartphones or keyboards. And we read them on internet. I've first time seen Grass real. On "youtube". F..k internet.
Günter is good at what he does, not social media. It's true that Facebook propagates not so valuable culture, but that's really our fault, not the platforms. In Romania we used Facebook to successfully down two governments and what would have been the biggest gold mining project in Europe. It works better than anything else for that.
Yes, facebook and possibly twitter also brought down Mubarak in Egypt. People always use the means at hand, whatever is practical. In fascist China, where censorship cuts people off from most non-Chinese media, social networks are mere instruments of state control. When you cross a red light (even when no car is in sight), you are registered and your photo is shown on a monitor visible to people in the streets. As somebody said, these tyrants have used George Orwell's 1984 as a manual to put into practice, not as a deterrent. Grass would have been appalled by these developments.
Respected Sir.... This is your wrong perception. As you said that use of modern technology like internet for knowing some information will be at the expense of quality. It's not correct. There are garbage content on internet but at the same time reliable things are also there. There should be application of intellect for that...
Ich sage, für politische Tätigkeit ist Facebook vonnutzen. Und die politische Tätigkeit muss vom seelischen Leben der emotionalen Wirklichkeit ausgehen!
ich meinte wahrscheinlich, dass das, was emotional wirklich, was an Gefühlen wirkt, nicht unterdrückt werden, sondern seelisch gefasst und gelebt werden muss. Würd ich bestimmt nicht so ausdrücken am heutigen Tage. Facebook ist für politische Tätigkeit dann unnütz, wenn man es nicht zu nützen weiß. Ich kenne da viele, die sich gesellschaftspolitisch engagieren. Wenn deine Haltung gegenüber Anregungen aus Facebook eine negative ist, ziehen dich Kreise, die Facebook gehaltvoll beleben, klarerweise nicht an..
Ich habe bisher keinen einzigen Nachweis dafür erbracht gesehen, dass eine Facebookpräsenz Wählerstimmen generiert. Das mag zwar vielleicht im kleinen kommunalen Bereich hier und da passieren, aber wenn es um die Wurst geht, halte ich politische Arbeit in sozialen Netzwerken eigentlich schon eher für ganz schön riskant.
Well, keep in mind that Günter Grass is an old man who is afraid of technologie (he never had a mobile phone ever). No one would celebrate him if he says "I don't have a car and cars are bad".
***** cars pollute, roads made especially for them take up a great deal of public space and suffocate our cities, do i have to mention all the people that die in car crashes...?Yes they are good used as ambulance and all the emergency situations, they are useful and entertaining and all that (races anyone?), but how entertaining is it to be caught in traffic jams because everybody has a car and its just too many of them and not fun or useful anymore as a day to day thing. Ok go on attack my opinions i'll take it :))
Oana C Grass is absolutely right. Facebook pollutes the minds and occupies a great deal of space in your brain that could be used for much better things. Facebook is the great illusion of a social environment that does not exist. It is a virtual, surrogate society which provides you with the illusion that you are surrounded by friends, but you aren't. It may be useful in some individual cases, but in general it damages human social capacities.
In Frieden ruhen Herr Grass, und ich danke Ihnen für Ihre Geschenke zu Literatur.
They edited out the phrase before saying FB is shit: "What kind of membership is this?" I think that's important for some of his concerns.
what the english subtitles don't reveal: he calls facebook shit and crap.
I also saw that. I just want to confirm it for people who don't speak German.
Fascinating.
The day will come eventually in the future when people realize we are turning more and more dummy and brainless because of the speedy-handy-easy going computer oriented life. In this regard, Gunter Grass is a prophet.
wahre worte! Respekt für Günter Grass...ich vermisse ihn unendlich sehr..
Wunderbar, Günter Grass. Ihm kann man nun wirklich nicht unterstellen das er keinen Verstand hat. Danke!
Verstand mag er ja haben, nur eben sehr wenig Ahnung.
Wie will er das Internet oder was auch immer kritisieren, wenn er es ganz öffensichtlich kaum kennt?
Ich kann ihn hier nicht übermäßig ernstnehmen.
Ronny Kethers Ich nutze das Internet auch, Handy habe ich gerade erst wieder auf Nokia ohne Internet umgetauscht. es ist einfach idiotisch wenn man Dinge nutzt (App usw.) ohne vorher ein Bedürfnis zu haben. Es ist echt gefährlich wie Begrifflichkeiten wie Freundschaft die eigentlichen Assoziationen verlieren. Es gibt Menchen die denken sie haben 120 Freunde und wenn man sie trifft sind sie so innerlich zerwühlt und nie in der Situation, da sie immer auf etwas warten oder auf Dauerempfang sind. Man muss da sehr ernsthaft nachdenken, dann versteht man das auch. Es geht nicht um die Abschaffung, es geht um die bewusste Nutzung und auf Verzicht.
Das hat jetzt aber nicht viel mit des Grassens Internetkompetenz zu tun.
doch, es ist die inzuition, und die ist mehr als logisch!
Wenn Du das so siehst, dann will ich Dich davon nicht abbringen.
depression and low self esteem + facebook = depression and low self esteem x2!
Surely a true story.
***** never too late to give it up and walk away, social media is a chain to never ending self judgement and self doubt, and the sad thing is everyones addicted and becoming effected by it, some more than others but i can see mental health issues rising worldwide the further it continues, which is very unnecessary if you ask me! facebook and social media is like have a double life or split personality, when you leave facebook you leave behind all the stress, worry, anxiety and judgments behind leaving you to go back to just focusing on whats in front of you in realtime, you will become a calmer and happier person!
***** lol i was waiting for that, yes well i regard youtube differently to social media, i know its on the same level but there are differences with you tube, sure too much youtube isnt healthy either, but with youtube you can be anonymous etc so its world social not like with facebook etc where your under pressure from viewing eyes of people you know, you dont have to make comments on you tube but facebook puts pressure on you to say something or post pics etc,and youtube in my opinion give you the freedom to view interesting videos/film/music its more about stuff other than personal identity, you dont have to keep up with the joneses on youtube, and you can also speak your mind freely without thinking a family member or aunty or ex is judging your comments etc, ive given up everything except YT , maybe ill try someday but for now i find youtube a handy and useful tool , facebook was just a stress creator!
Talons of the Raven Plus there is a dislike button ))
@@talonsoftheraven6693 I absolutely do agree with everything you said, have a great day ahead 🦁🦁🦁
I love Tin Drummer. the Prize of my collection is a first edition Tin Drummer.
Even the dog laying back there knows what up
I have 570 friends on facebook and I fucking hate it, most of them don't talk to me. I am totally going to delete mine soon.
Facebook? Waste of time. Und das sag ich als Deutscher und Stimme total mit Günthers Meinung überein^^ In Bücher steckt erheblich mehr Leben als auf einer Internetseite
a short but intensely concise insight rite on herr grass
Whoever did this interview, is an angel. There are so important for the future when they will have internet strapped on your belts as as well.
We are using all this new tech for idiotic things not for important things.
+Ariel Goldfarb Sais the guy with a dead space profile picture... :D
Nobody is perfect you know ...
Not really, in Romania we use Facebook to mobilise protests and spread information that the media does not. We took down two governments and stopped the largest mining project in Europe through Facebook (Google "rosia montana").
It ain't shit and people do use it for important things.
+ArbiterG - George hahahaa
+Ioan-Radu Tanasescu nice nice
Günter Grass is an honourable philosopher: Read if you have the concentration span: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnter_Grass
Sometimes these people are talking nonsense too.
"500 friends, that doesn't make sense, my books don't even have that many readers."
I'm personally not very fond of the early Grass, but his late writings were more accessible. "My century" was a bestseller.
lmao
Facebook sólo es un medio de comunicación, mas no de interacción y comercio emocional. Esa es su única función.
We all saw this on Facebook:)
Das ist falsch. Literatur als Arbeitsvorgang lässt sich sehr wohl beschleunigen. Erste Vorreiter waren Balzac und Strindberg. Brecht dachte sein ganzes Leben lang über die Möglichkeiten der Beschleunigung literarischer Prozesse nach, in Praxis versuchte er dies mit einem ganzen Mitarbeiterstab zu erreichen.
...und warum ist die Aussage falsch? Du Widersprichst dir selbst... hast gemerkt? Seine Aussage ist Fakt und es war keine Meinung die er mit dem Satz geäußert hat.
Wer literarische Arbeitsvorgänge beschleunigt, tut das auf kosten der Qualität"Punkt".
Ice Mike Stimmt.
So very true
A wise man once said, Nothing.... let him learn what this new age has brought on us and how we may utilize it to have much more connections and more friends than he his feeble typewriter age mind can handle... poor geriatric
Karim Zidan So you see it just takes an old typewriter to get the Nobel Prize. Try it !
Hope you will not be taken to a mental hospital some day with a handful of mobiles and whatever phones.
Poor geriatric? This man has authored some literary masterpieces (you know, things called 'books', with 'pages' and words printed on them, stuff like that). He is a Nobel Laureate. Who the hell are you with all your thousands of virtual friends?
Hey you guys he's just a troll trying to wind us up. Why is "old school" used with a negative connotation anyway? Is Galileo Galilei old school? Good on him if he is, by the way Dog Years rocks, not for the faint of heart mind you and that's the way I like it aha aha…….
We watch this interview on "youtube". And write our comments by our shitty smartphones or keyboards. And we read them on internet. I've first time seen Grass real. On "youtube". F..k internet.
I don't think social media has helped society develop past the value system of a twelve-year-old.
Günter is good at what he does, not social media. It's true that Facebook propagates not so valuable culture, but that's really our fault, not the platforms. In Romania we used Facebook to successfully down two governments and what would have been the biggest gold mining project in Europe.
It works better than anything else for that.
Yes, facebook and possibly twitter also brought down Mubarak in Egypt. People always use the means at hand, whatever is practical. In fascist China, where censorship cuts people off from most non-Chinese media, social networks are mere instruments of state control. When you cross a red light (even when no car is in sight), you are registered and your photo is shown on a monitor visible to people in the streets. As somebody said, these tyrants have used George Orwell's 1984 as a manual to put into practice, not as a deterrent. Grass would have been appalled by these developments.
Ich bin mir sicher, dass der "gute alte Tipp-Ex" noch zu neu für Günter Grass ist ;)
Ruhe in Frieden
Old school never will accept new age... this man is expired
Actually, by way of his art, this man is immortal.
Agreed 100%.
RIP
I Have 800 Friends On Facebook And Around 10 Actual Friends
word .down with the face crack.
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Respected Sir.... This is your wrong perception. As you said that use of modern technology like internet for knowing some information will be at the expense of quality.
It's not correct. There are garbage content on internet but at the same time reliable things are also there. There should be application of intellect for that...
Ich sage, für politische Tätigkeit ist Facebook vonnutzen. Und die politische Tätigkeit muss vom seelischen Leben der emotionalen Wirklichkeit ausgehen!
Was ist seelisches Leben emotionaler Wirklichkeit?
(Ganz abgesehen davon, dass Facebook für politische Tätigkeit eher unnütz ist...)
ich meinte wahrscheinlich, dass das, was emotional wirklich, was an Gefühlen wirkt, nicht unterdrückt werden, sondern seelisch gefasst und gelebt werden muss. Würd ich bestimmt nicht so ausdrücken am heutigen Tage.
Facebook ist für politische Tätigkeit dann unnütz, wenn man es nicht zu nützen weiß. Ich kenne da viele, die sich gesellschaftspolitisch engagieren. Wenn deine Haltung gegenüber Anregungen aus Facebook eine negative ist, ziehen dich Kreise, die Facebook gehaltvoll beleben, klarerweise nicht an..
Ich habe bisher keinen einzigen Nachweis dafür erbracht gesehen, dass eine Facebookpräsenz Wählerstimmen generiert. Das mag zwar vielleicht im kleinen kommunalen Bereich hier und da passieren, aber wenn es um die Wurst geht, halte ich politische Arbeit in sozialen Netzwerken eigentlich schon eher für ganz schön riskant.
Politische Arbeit ist für mich jede Arbeit für die Gemeinschaft - Diskurse etc. Ich habe also einen postmodernen Machtbegriff!
Na, dann mach das mal.
Günther erklärt uns, warum seine Literatur obsolet geworden ist.
literature
Facebook und Handy wollte er nicht. Die Waffen-SS fand er aber ganz gut und ist dann auch gleich Mitglied geworden.
This man is all facts haha
Well, keep in mind that Günter Grass is an old man who is afraid of technologie (he never had a mobile phone ever).
No one would celebrate him if he says "I don't have a car and cars are bad".
s2to but cars aren´t bad. Facebook is!
***** cars pollute, roads made especially for them take up a great deal of public space and suffocate our cities, do i have to mention all the people that die in car crashes...?Yes they are good used as ambulance and all the emergency situations, they are useful and entertaining and all that (races anyone?), but how entertaining is it to be caught in traffic jams because everybody has a car and its just too many of them and not fun or useful anymore as a day to day thing. Ok go on attack my opinions i'll take it :))
Oana C Grass is absolutely right. Facebook pollutes the minds and occupies a great deal of space in your brain that could be used for much better things. Facebook is the great illusion of a social environment that does not exist. It is a virtual, surrogate society which provides you with the illusion that you are surrounded by friends, but you aren't. It may be useful in some individual cases, but in general it damages human social capacities.
broagerl He stated why he doesn‘t have a phone. So your point is pointless.
Purtroppo
reactionist
Agree, total BS
Facebook is an excellent medium. The internet age is a bliss.